Conquest of India - A Historical Paradox - Extra History - Part 1

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  • @kim2894
    @kim2894 3 роки тому +1241

    Fun fact: That monarch that didn't came to the durbar was in the middle of India himself as Prince of Wales, and was caught unaware when his mother was proclaimed Empress of India.

    • @sylviamontaez3889
      @sylviamontaez3889 3 роки тому +41

      Edward VII was already king by then. the Durbar described at the beginning took place in 1903.

    • @RealLifeW0rld
      @RealLifeW0rld 3 роки тому +98

      @@sylviamontaez3889 He's talking about the the Delhi Durbar of 1877 where Queen Victoria was proclaimed the Empress of India

    • @powerist209
      @powerist209 3 роки тому +18

      There were 3 intact.
      One for Victoria, other for Edward, and last one for George.

    • @adarshmohapatra5058
      @adarshmohapatra5058 3 роки тому +6

      @@powerist209 Is George the father of the current Queen Elizabeth?

    • @SonofSethoitae
      @SonofSethoitae 3 роки тому +30

      @@adarshmohapatra5058 Her grandfather, George V. He was also the only one that actually attended the durbar.

  • @KyleRayner12
    @KyleRayner12 3 роки тому +2302

    Whoever wrote the line "Au contraire, Armchair" deserves a raise.

  • @thetruerift
    @thetruerift 3 роки тому +1971

    Zoey better be riding a war elephant before the end of this series.

  • @lorefox201
    @lorefox201 3 роки тому +634

    >historians love subjects of which they can just talk and talk forever without ever reaching an authoritative stance

    • @zachlong5427
      @zachlong5427 3 роки тому +22

      Bah! The cowards! They ought to make an authoritative stance, so that they can make more history talk on the for- or -against viewpoints!

    • @lambert801
      @lambert801 3 роки тому +4

      Exactly!

    • @thenoblepoptart
      @thenoblepoptart 3 роки тому +3

      It’s more like popular subjects have been done to death and everyone likes novelty.

  • @nzx.
    @nzx. 3 роки тому +1582

    As an Indian, I'm super psyched for this series.

    • @CaptBackwards
      @CaptBackwards 3 роки тому +24

      Except the emperor himself did not show up

    • @elikorn8777
      @elikorn8777 3 роки тому +78

      As a brit I'm a bit embarrassed

    • @blink182bfsftw
      @blink182bfsftw 3 роки тому +53

      @@elikorn8777 Your understanding is appreciated, usually on videos like these certain Brits glorify colonialism. See: the recent video on Megaprojects

    • @triculious
      @triculious 3 роки тому +23

      As a Mexican, I know basically zilch about Indian history, I'm quite excited about some starting points!

    • @heli0s101
      @heli0s101 3 роки тому +16

      @@elikorn8777 It's something to be proud of, not embarrassed of.

  • @alexv3357
    @alexv3357 3 роки тому +184

    1:25 Okay so why does that map show Scotland and Ireland as independent in 1901, when Ireland was very much not free and Scotland is still part of the UK?

    • @BatCostumeGuy
      @BatCostumeGuy 3 роки тому +13

      Because they forgor💀

    • @Xalerdane
      @Xalerdane 3 роки тому +3

      “Oops.”

    • @SonofSethoitae
      @SonofSethoitae 3 роки тому +12

      Yeah, they used the 17th century map from later in the video instead of the 20th century map.

  • @NGBigfield
    @NGBigfield 3 роки тому +333

    Always excited to start a new series!

  • @hamzaferoz6162
    @hamzaferoz6162 3 роки тому +1956

    "How did Britiain Control India?"
    Well like everyone else.
    Willing Vassals

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson 3 роки тому +152

      Rule by and through the natives.
      Also cannons.

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf 3 роки тому +45

      @@Praisethesunson The indians had the cannons, not the English

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson 3 роки тому +96

      @@Carewolf The British tied Indians to the cannons and then fired the cannons.
      That's how the British kept their Indian soldiers following orders.

    • @kevinmendoza6386
      @kevinmendoza6386 3 роки тому +20

      @@Praisethesunson Wasn't that way later?

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson 3 роки тому +40

      @@kevinmendoza6386 Depends if you count the east India company or not.

  • @TheAnalyticalEngine
    @TheAnalyticalEngine 3 роки тому +155

    Those are some...interesting...choices in depictions of Britain on those maps

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 3 роки тому +7

      I guess the word choice for Britain is a bit odd

    • @puneetmishra4726
      @puneetmishra4726 3 роки тому +7

      Scotland and Ireland was not part of the union yet

    • @billcipherproductions1789
      @billcipherproductions1789 3 роки тому +6

      @@puneetmishra4726 In 1903, they were though.

    • @puneetmishra4726
      @puneetmishra4726 3 роки тому +4

      @@billcipherproductions1789 oh, I meant in 17th century when Brits came to India

    • @eljanrimsa5843
      @eljanrimsa5843 3 роки тому

      for India, too

  • @pileofcheese5017
    @pileofcheese5017 3 роки тому +448

    I really don't like how centralised you present the Mughal Empire here. The Mughals were largely forced to rule through concessions to local rulers, and had trouble establishing a Muslim government structure. They also did not rule all of India.
    A second stickler is the fact that while yes, those trading ports were partly for trade with India, they were also in no small part used as stops along the way to China.

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 3 роки тому +86

      The Mughal Sultan did what pretty much every feudal kingdom did in history: let landlords keep their lands in exchange for constant tribute payments

    • @tams805
      @tams805 3 роки тому +48

      @@DieNibelungenliad EC have a habit of embellishing those they see as the oppressed.

    • @andrewblair370
      @andrewblair370 3 роки тому +64

      Also presenting the Mughal army as a massive, modern force and then going on to directly contradict themselves by mentioning the armored war elephants...

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому +17

      @@andrewblair370 War elephants are generally useless if your soldiers are disciplined heck the romans demonstrated this at cannae

    • @jannickmetz3150
      @jannickmetz3150 3 роки тому +52

      @@Cecilia-ky3uw i think you mean Zama not Cannae😅
      In the battel of cannae Hannibal destroyed the romans

  • @robertgrey5887
    @robertgrey5887 3 роки тому +221

    I have legit just finished a Uni module on this subject, Your timing as ever is on the dote

    • @theanglo-lithuanian1768
      @theanglo-lithuanian1768 3 роки тому +10

      Extra history released the crusades and medicine (John snow) roughly at the same time I did their exams... So that was handy.

    • @Crabzula
      @Crabzula 3 роки тому +4

      I wouldn't take anything EC has to say seriously if you care about passing your exam

    • @theanglo-lithuanian1768
      @theanglo-lithuanian1768 3 роки тому +5

      @@Crabzula Speak for yourself. Did the trick.

    • @risymian3374
      @risymian3374 3 роки тому +3

      @@theanglo-lithuanian1768 I agree with you, EC is good enough to be a second/alternative learning source. Modules, papers, & published books are still better for main source tho.
      Also, don't mind Crabzula. He is just a salty pro-colonialism.

    • @silentbyte196
      @silentbyte196 3 роки тому +1

      @@risymian3374 Agreed. They are called 'EXTRA' History for a reason.

  • @neelspd
    @neelspd 3 роки тому +12

    I have been an informal student of Indian History since my middle school days, and this introductory part is a great condensation of the economic and political strength of the concerned parties at the inception of the colonisation. Great Work.

  • @gluttonousmanu2725
    @gluttonousmanu2725 3 роки тому +203

    However I would differ
    Mughal Empire was in decline during the rime Aurangzeb and the Marathas were meanwhile bulldozing the subcontinent where Mughals were weak
    There wasn't a centralized power as shown in this episode when EIC began their wars.
    In simpler terms India was agin not united by a big empire but a lot of kingdoms fighting amongst themselves

    • @iamhoney1018
      @iamhoney1018 3 роки тому +20

      Marathas helped a lot in British Conquest of India

    • @GauravKetkar08
      @GauravKetkar08 3 роки тому

      Are you The Manu Pillai - the author - by any chance? :)

    • @007dalal
      @007dalal 3 роки тому +5

      When British came to India, Marathas weren't big. Even Shivaji wasn't on scene at thag time

    • @anuragpatel1476
      @anuragpatel1476 3 роки тому +1

      @Agastya Prince but they still put up a fight unlike Mir Jafar

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu 3 роки тому +3

      The Mughals might have been in decline, but they were still wealthy and the biggest power in India at that time. The English were in an even sorrier state at that time and couldn't even say "we're still rich." This might have something to do with them beating themselves over religious disputes, albeit not nearly as bad as the HRE did.

  • @Lucianfuhlbruck
    @Lucianfuhlbruck 3 роки тому +175

    Love that you showed Liverpool winning

  • @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
    @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv 3 роки тому +397

    Been waiting for this for a while. The reason the British conquered was a mix of disunity among Indians, religious tensions, traitors, superior tech and tactics and economic dismemberment. Overall, a very sad tale.

    • @Ricklyplinth
      @Ricklyplinth 3 роки тому +34

      Yeah, colonialism always leads to tragedy.

    • @Grzzgwzz
      @Grzzgwzz 3 роки тому +23

      You are directly contradicting this video at 5:01 and 6:53

    • @sirsteam6455
      @sirsteam6455 3 роки тому +49

      @@Grzzgwzz Keep in the point the videos arguments are solely placed in the 17th century not the 18th or 19th in which the British would become so.

    • @grapeshott
      @grapeshott 3 роки тому

      @@Grzzgwzz lol

    • @Ishpreetb264
      @Ishpreetb264 3 роки тому +3

      You're wrong. British ruled over India by the means you mentioned but the British conquest of India was different.

  • @951sht
    @951sht 3 роки тому +84

    Your Indian viewers were waiting for this, and, you're about to receive a lot of views.

    • @syonadaniel8214
      @syonadaniel8214 3 роки тому

      Here

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 3 роки тому +7

      They will get a lot of hate from hindutva brigade, for showing mughals.

    • @ayyazkhan1917
      @ayyazkhan1917 3 роки тому +4

      A pakistani is here as well, love the mughals hate the British just like yall

    • @951sht
      @951sht 3 роки тому +1

      @@ayyazkhan1917 yes, solidarity with all.

    • @jhonshephard921
      @jhonshephard921 3 роки тому +3

      In the US we Pakistan and Indian people call each other bahi. Remember Jinnah and Gandhi were friends.

  • @RainbowBoo42
    @RainbowBoo42 3 роки тому +101

    I swear every extra history topic has been getting more and more interesting
    And Im looking forward to a years worth of documentaries

    • @PakBallandSami
      @PakBallandSami 3 роки тому

      history is an interesting topic own its own

  • @Hablablah
    @Hablablah 3 роки тому +139

    "We don't come to you, you come to us" - Said every wealthy Eastern power that went on to get colonized.

    • @sreyarthakrishna6195
      @sreyarthakrishna6195 3 роки тому +6

      Not Japan.

    • @ObywatelMurawjow
      @ObywatelMurawjow 3 роки тому +21

      @@sreyarthakrishna6195 doesn't they said "we don't come to you, and you don't come to us" instead?

    • @PakBallandSami
      @PakBallandSami 3 роки тому

      yeah

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer 3 роки тому

      @@sreyarthakrishna6195 they're a puppet now lol

    • @memesins5647
      @memesins5647 3 роки тому

      @@siyacer like your ancestors were ours

  • @paullenoue8173
    @paullenoue8173 3 роки тому +229

    Now that you've introduced Armchair Historian, I'm surprised he wasn't a regular character from the very beginning. Didn't know you needed a devil's advocate until you had one.

    • @jose.lfurtado6245
      @jose.lfurtado6245 3 роки тому +5

      Thumbs up for armchair!

    • @mememaster2772
      @mememaster2772 3 роки тому +39

      I disagree, the armchair was annoying and broke the flow of the episode.

    • @deftheocelot9125
      @deftheocelot9125 3 роки тому +15

      There's already a channel by that name so they cant lol

    • @paullenoue8173
      @paullenoue8173 3 роки тому +11

      @@mememaster2772 Agree with the annoying part, but with history there will _always_ be misunderstandings, misinformation, erroneous translations, paradoxical WTF moments, etc. that should be called out during the show.

    • @cyka7705
      @cyka7705 3 роки тому

      I wonder the armschair historian is refer to the general amrschair historian or that channel with the same name

  • @sarasamaletdin4574
    @sarasamaletdin4574 3 роки тому +41

    Edward VII wasn’t a good prince (regarding the playboy stuff you mentioned) but as a king he was quite decent

  • @EnoshII
    @EnoshII 3 роки тому +193

    "Flintlocks were far more complicated to manufacture than simple matchlocks, thus less-developed countries continued to use the latter into the mid 19th century, long after Europe had made the switch in the late 17th. In the Indian subcontinent, the natively-manufactured toradar matchlock was the most common firearm type until about 1830"

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 3 роки тому +16

      They might feature this in their "lies" episode.

    • @SafavidAfsharid3197
      @SafavidAfsharid3197 3 роки тому +7

      Then imagine loosing to them during 1st and 2nd anglo-mysore wars and 1st anglo-maratha war lol.

    • @peterjerman7549
      @peterjerman7549 3 роки тому +42

      I mean this whole episode is just pure occidentalism and romanticising the "other". "OMG guys, India was so great, so perfect" yeah sure buddy

    • @bendeguzborda5902
      @bendeguzborda5902 3 роки тому +51

      @@peterjerman7549 yea, wenn EH said that their administration so good was that even minor nobles lived in luxury, I tought : Its an interesting way to say that they tax the sh!t out of the peasants. But cant say bad about a would be colonized nation can we.

    • @peterjerman7549
      @peterjerman7549 3 роки тому +28

      @@bendeguzborda5902 Definitely, EC takes this romantic occidentalist approach way too frequently, which hurts importantly native, in this case Indian, research. Stereotypes like these can seriously damage public understanding of a topic.

  • @athesiaman7749
    @athesiaman7749 3 роки тому +26

    There’s actually a great video covering the development of the Indian state by the UA-camr Kraut that offers at least some insight into why India has historically had issues dealing with external threats such as the Mughals and British

  • @erwansallard5471
    @erwansallard5471 3 роки тому +203

    Well, the moghuls too were foreign invaders coming out of a backwater region who still managed to conquer and rule much more developed and populated countries. As were most ruling dinasties in India. The subcontinent is very bad at defending itself, but excellent at assimilating its conquerors.

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 3 роки тому +31

      Initially they were foreign, but akbar was as much indian as any other Indian.

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому +10

      @@yj9032 depends you could define Indian til before Modern India as being Hindu, and treat the Mughals as foreign conquerors kinda like how Kublai Khan is treated

    • @psuyog
      @psuyog 3 роки тому +6

      @@yj9032 Akbar was initially a follower of Arab religion, how can he be Indian?

    • @morningstar3997
      @morningstar3997 3 роки тому +29

      @@psuyog by being born in India currently modern India has population of approximately 200 million people who follow middle Eastern religion and if we go by your logic than those aren't Indians ?

    • @siddharthyadavchekkala2845
      @siddharthyadavchekkala2845 3 роки тому +9

      @@psuyog
      Akbar was initially foreign but the end of his reign he apostated and founded a new religion.
      He became Indian and adopted Indian ethos of tolerance through his life.
      Not unlike the previous info Greek Kings or qutub Shahis in the south.
      Aurangazeb destroyed this legacy.

  • @valorix3385
    @valorix3385 3 роки тому +37

    Woah! As a Pakistani, this topic is pretty important to me. Can't wait to see what comes next in this series!

    • @queenofhearts3664
      @queenofhearts3664 3 роки тому

      @@DieNibelungenliad based

    • @manzarmaqbool6176
      @manzarmaqbool6176 Рік тому

      Same, I belong to one of the last 6 traditional Mughals families in South Asia, and seeing such videos is a great experience.

  • @arthurdowney2846
    @arthurdowney2846 3 роки тому +24

    The image of Portugal and The Dutch Republic as mice wielding needles for spears will stay with me forever😂😂😂

  • @aarezniggatron2660
    @aarezniggatron2660 3 роки тому +15

    Every single person from the subcontinent be like : "We have been summoned"

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions 3 роки тому +115

    Indirect rule, through conspiring and corrupt nobility. And make damn sure the people don't understand what's happening.

    • @sars910
      @sars910 3 роки тому +12

      Probably the most concise and accurate summary of the Indian conquest.

    • @juice8431
      @juice8431 3 роки тому +23

      Yes, in paper, the British didnt really have much land. Only ones in Bengal, Madras, Punjab, Bombay, Karachi and a few scattered here and there. The majority still had Indian kings but in practice, those kings were merely figure heads forced to obey every command the British said in fear of an invasion

    • @sionsmedia8249
      @sionsmedia8249 3 роки тому +18

      The Caste system (which the British did partially abolish) was a mojer help in doing that.

    • @alexv3357
      @alexv3357 3 роки тому +11

      Not to mention ruthlessly exploiting internal divisions

    • @mvalthegamer2450
      @mvalthegamer2450 3 роки тому +7

      Which was only made possible due to some incredible luck and accidents in bengal, which allowed the british to gain the richest province in the region hostage.

  • @NYCfrankie
    @NYCfrankie 3 роки тому +40

    Ouch that 05 uefa champions league final reminder really stung

    • @wasneeplus
      @wasneeplus 3 роки тому +4

      Well, you got your revenge two years later at least. Funny though, since that Milanese team wasn't nearly as good as the 05 team imho.

    • @NYCfrankie
      @NYCfrankie 3 роки тому

      @@wasneeplus agreed the 05 team was absolutely better

    • @jasonperry709
      @jasonperry709 3 роки тому +1

      Nowhere is safe…

  • @rickshaw296
    @rickshaw296 3 роки тому +19

    You folks majorly mis portrayed Englands place in the 16th century. A generation after the Wars of the Roses, in the time of Henry the 8th, England was a dominate power in Europe. Trading in the Mediterranean, showing off in France in the "field of gold" festivals, building lavish country estates and boasting one of the biggest navies in Europe. 16th century English wool was clothing half of Europe, and Scottish fisheries were feeding the other half with fish caught off Iceland and Newfound Land. By Lizzy the 1st's time, English scientists were breaking new ground in science, and English ships were starting to travel the world, trading and plundering. Sure, the Mayflower expedition was put together by desperate peasants, but the real work of colonizing America was done by English corporations, wealthy private English citizens and money from the English government. 16th century England was an up and comer!

    • @jgw9990
      @jgw9990 2 роки тому +4

      I'd still categorise England as a 2nd rate European power. The HRE and France were more significant

    • @khanofkhaganas803
      @khanofkhaganas803 2 роки тому +2

      @@jgw9990 Agreed . The French would have been the leading Candidate to influence India . They were the ones who used Subsidary Alliances and Sepoy armies under Dupleix

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 2 роки тому +1

      This has been a party political broadcast from the UK Independence Party.
      In all seriousness though, whilst we were on the up, we were certainly not a big player, and our continued rise was not inevitable. France and Spain were the big powers at the time, and by all accounts there was no reason to think they would diminish, certainly not in favour of that tiny island off the french coast.

  • @shubharthidutta979
    @shubharthidutta979 3 роки тому +76

    Extra credits- posting a video on India
    Their Indian viewers- we have been summoned

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 3 роки тому +1

      Get ready for hindutva hate.

    • @abhinavjha3082
      @abhinavjha3082 3 роки тому +1

      @@yj9032 They'll ruin this, like they've ruined their sad pathetic lives

    • @rudrasingh6354
      @rudrasingh6354 3 роки тому +1

      @@yj9032 Hindutva is evil tho. Hindutva and Hinduism is different.

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 3 роки тому

      @@yj9032 Hindutva and Hinduism is different.

  • @matthiasw8777
    @matthiasw8777 3 роки тому +16

    I did not expect an '05 Champions League final joke in this. Well done, quality content as always

  • @augustulus1277
    @augustulus1277 Рік тому +7

    2:19 Hi, I’m Griffin Johnsen, The Armchair Historian

  • @strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
    @strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 3 роки тому +105

    "How did Britain conquer India when the Mughal Empire was so mighty?"
    Spoiler Alert: Aurangzeb offended so many people that when the Marathas revolted, basically the entire Empire seceded at once, and the petty kingdoms squabbling were easy prey for the British.

    • @billcipherproductions1789
      @billcipherproductions1789 3 роки тому +5

      But it's more complex than that. Because if it was that easy, France or Spain or the Dutch would've taken India.

    • @grapeshott
      @grapeshott 3 роки тому +14

      Nope. After Aurungzeb, Empire was still intact. But there stayed no stability in Mughal empire. There was factionalism, incompetent rulers, weak finances and so on. And their military was already getting outdated. The Nadir Shah's raid was the final nail on the coffin. Incompetent Muhammad Shah Rangeela just had dance and songs, did not care to fix the empire. Even the European powers were shocked by seeing how easily Nadir Shah plundered Delhi, because earlier the British had been badly defeated by Aurungzeb in a conflict.

    • @sars910
      @sars910 3 роки тому +8

      Nope. That was a myth propagated by the British to discredit local rulers in the eyes of the Indian people. In reality Aurangzeb was no more brutal or magnanimous than any other ruler of the time.
      What actually caused the fall of the Mughal Empire was Aurangzeb not leaving anyone adequate to replace him. None of Aurangzeb's heirs had the strength of will needed to keep an empire of than size together.
      There was also the problem of Indian vassals, regardless of empire, religion or ethnicity, having a tendency to turn against their allies for their own gain.
      Religion probably had very little to do with it. For example, what sealed the fate of the Subcontinent was the defeat of the Nawab of Bengal by the East India Trading Company. The Nawab of Bengal, a Muslim, was betrayed by his vizier, Mir Jafir (Also a Muslim), in order to curry favour with the Christian British. Similarly, many Hindus fought against the Marathas and Ranjit Singh of the Sikh Empire under the British flag.
      In fact, the Mughal emperor was considered the Emperor of India long after he had lost most of his lands and power. The army that flocked to the Mughal Emperor during the 1857 War of Independence was 2/3rds Hindu and 1/3rd Muslim.
      In short, things are a lot more complicated than modern leaders may have you believe.

    • @juice8431
      @juice8431 3 роки тому +4

      The British literally could not have chosen a better time or location (Bengal) to come.

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 3 роки тому

      Weak kings, powerful regional players.

  • @drishaanpaliwal
    @drishaanpaliwal 3 роки тому +29

    I was really looking forward to another indian series

    • @anoushkashenoy692
      @anoushkashenoy692 3 роки тому

      Did they have another before this? I used to watch this channel a while ago but stopped, but then started again when I saw this video pop up on my feed.

    • @drishaanpaliwal
      @drishaanpaliwal 3 роки тому

      Yes they had one about the saragahi fort

  • @ragnarlothbrok7973
    @ragnarlothbrok7973 3 роки тому +3

    So exited been my fav channel for quite some time

  • @jacobprice2579
    @jacobprice2579 3 роки тому +54

    Wow this should be a good series. By the way, Edward VII was many things, but I think “lazy” is a bit of a stretch.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 3 роки тому +15

      EC seem to have a bit of a thing against the UK.

    • @redcrown5070
      @redcrown5070 3 роки тому +6

      @@tams805 Everyone have a thing against the British, not the UK.

    • @sakataginko9092
      @sakataginko9092 3 роки тому +9

      @@tams805 Even the British have a thing against the British.

    • @InuyashaHanyu
      @InuyashaHanyu 3 роки тому +6

      @@sakataginko9092 Damn the British, they ruined Britain!

    • @robertbeckett7654
      @robertbeckett7654 3 роки тому

      true, he was very dedicated to eating lunch.

  • @arjunbadi6038
    @arjunbadi6038 3 роки тому +18

    I feel like the Maratha empire, which controlled a large amount of India, deserved a mention

    • @mianyousaf1093
      @mianyousaf1093 Рік тому +2

      At that time maratha empire was not exist.

    • @Ginger_Hrn
      @Ginger_Hrn Рік тому +2

      There were many empires but just like a military campaign, only the top ones get the mention

    • @manzarmaqbool6176
      @manzarmaqbool6176 Рік тому

      Only the top ones get mentioned. It was more of a Maratha Confederacy then a empire, different states ruling confederacy and uncentralized. They would have had to mention the Mysorian Kingdom,Bengal,Sikh state,Afghan state, Hyderabad as well if they go with all the rest

    • @manzarmaqbool6176
      @manzarmaqbool6176 Рік тому

      Only the top ones get mentioned. It was more of a Maratha Confederacy then a empire, different states ruling confederacy and uncentralized. They would have had to mention the Mysorian Kingdom,Bengal,Sikh state,Afghan state, Hyderabad as well if they go with all the rest

  • @rithvikpbalaji1002
    @rithvikpbalaji1002 3 роки тому +35

    Fun fact the rockets mentioned in the star spangled banner might be reverse engineered from an Indian rocket made in Mysore

    • @aritrochatterjee4566
      @aritrochatterjee4566 3 роки тому +1

      The rockets had guiding sticks made of swords and did much damage than just exploding

    • @MA-kw3ov
      @MA-kw3ov 2 роки тому

      There’s no mention of rockets in the star spangled banner

    • @rithvikpbalaji1002
      @rithvikpbalaji1002 2 роки тому +1

      “The Star-Spangled Banner.” The poem, originally titled “The Defence of Fort M'Henry,” was written after Key witnessed the Maryland fort being bombarded by rockets by the British during the War of 1812

    • @chingizzhylkybayev8575
      @chingizzhylkybayev8575 Рік тому

      ​@@MA-kw3ov and the rocket's red flair, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night, that our flag was still there

  • @georgethompson5407
    @georgethompson5407 3 роки тому +11

    +extra credits, just so you know, when you were talking about the Delhi Durbar, to you left Scotland out of the United Kingdom

  • @JoeOfGoa
    @JoeOfGoa 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for doing this , I can already tell this will be exciting and fun series to see, and maybe also find out what all the school textbooks missed.

  • @joshuadyson8193
    @joshuadyson8193 3 роки тому +40

    the Mughals had a great empire on paper and a brilliant/vast army... again on paper, but the empire was crumbling and the army was ill trained. Cool series but the Mughals were not as stable as you made them sound.

    • @grapeshott
      @grapeshott 3 роки тому +8

      They were pretty stable till Aurungzeb. But Aurungzeb's empire was getting cracks, but just needed some capable rulers to hold and fix it. No one came.

    • @GideonGleeful95
      @GideonGleeful95 3 роки тому +18

      Tbf this is talking about the 1600s when the Mughals were at their height. It was only at the end of the early 1700s after the death of Aurengzeb when the Mughals had a sudden collapse (in large part thanks to the Marathas).

    • @christianvalencia4489
      @christianvalencia4489 3 роки тому

      Exactly, the Mughals were declining at the time.

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 3 роки тому

      How was the Mughal army ill-trained?
      They had the best army in the world until Sultan Aurengzab died, leaving his lands to be ruled by his incompetent sons who wasted the army's manpower and resources on fighting each other while there were rebellions everywhere and a big invasion on its way from Afghans and Persians

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 3 роки тому

      @@GideonGleeful95 Nader Shah*

  • @StRodeNL
    @StRodeNL 3 роки тому +12

    I wish you would do a series on the Dutch Golden Age and how incredibly misunderstood it is. No wealth due to colonialism, but due to superior economic ideas. I think it would be very interesting for you to discuss.
    Good new series by the way! Looking forward to the rest of the series!

  • @AlcoholicBoredom
    @AlcoholicBoredom 3 роки тому +37

    5:25 “[The English] quite possibly would have been destroyed by the Spanish Armada if not for a fortuitous storm.”
    Except no. Not at all. Even before the storm at the Battle of Gravelines the English owned the Spanish Armada, not losing a single ship. The Spanish ships were built in an outdated medieval style which favored size in order to board the enemy vessel. The English were using a more modern style whose emphasis was on maneuverable cannon fire at a distance, making boarding by the enemy very difficult. In addition, the English were using four wheeled cannons with uniform cannonball sizes perfect for easy reloading below decks. The Spanish were using two wheeled cannons that were awkward to load and move and a lack of uniform cannonball size meant that they were often scrambling to find the right size cannonball for each particular cannon.

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 3 роки тому +6

      The battle was indecisive. The Spanish Armada was still strong enough to invade England

    • @tams805
      @tams805 3 роки тому +18

      EC seem to have a bee in their bonnet regarding the UK. They are also quite ready to jump to conclusions.

    • @deadline93
      @deadline93 3 роки тому +1

      Not really the ship based artillery was viewd as an inefect weapon and very secondary. Really the best thing the English did during the spanish armada was the use of fireships to disperce and force the spanish to cut thire anchors leaving them vonruble to storms. Really naval figthing in the age of sail can be split into two eras. 1400-1650 is the age of boarding and 1650-1850 is the age of the ship of the line. At this point sinking ships with guns is really hard to do both because most gun crews are poorly trained, the guns are fairly ligth only around 12-24 punders on the big warships smaller warships are down in 6-12 punders. Untopp of that woddenships normaly dont want to sink they are really reciliant and navel doctrin is its better to capture an enemy then sink him. So the spanish ships where fully in line with the era thire size and sizable fore and aftcastles where designed to give them controll during boarding actions. This only chages after the anglo dutch wars which shows the effectivness of more heavily armed better trained and more gun focused ships.

  • @2Links
    @2Links 3 роки тому +26

    Get Zoey on a war elephant!

  • @newworld2086
    @newworld2086 3 роки тому +38

    Mughals were not in absolute power when EIC came in. Please look into Anglo-Maratha wars that actually solidified EICs rule in India.

    • @grapeshott
      @grapeshott 3 роки тому +11

      You know when EIC came? In 1600s. Jahangir was the emperor.
      Extra Credit does a lot of research before making videos. They are rarely wrong.

    • @jayantjha3128
      @jayantjha3128 3 роки тому +2

      Battle of plassey was imp

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 3 роки тому +8

      EIC came in the 1600s, back then the Mughals were still powerful, If we talk about the situation when the EIC got Bengal in 1757, which made them a regional power in the subcontinent, at that time the Marathas were at their peak under the 8th Peshwa Balaji Baji Rao Bhat.

    • @memesins5647
      @memesins5647 3 роки тому +2

      There was already a Anglo-Mughal war where EIC lost and banned by Aurangzeb until they paid huge fines.

    • @mianyousaf1093
      @mianyousaf1093 Рік тому

      EIC came in 1600 and check the map at that time

  • @winterroll5255
    @winterroll5255 3 роки тому +2

    Pumped for the next episodes. Their angle and approach is perfect!

  • @scrollcaps
    @scrollcaps 3 роки тому +11

    Wow, the armchair from Blue's clues is a lot more condensing then I remember.

  • @anamosamapper7521
    @anamosamapper7521 3 роки тому +1

    I think jts really great how this channel isnt eurocentric and covers history worldwide, its really interesting and ive learned some uncommon things

  • @honkhonk1712
    @honkhonk1712 3 роки тому +8

    Even in India we are told history from already explained situations, it would really be interesting to learn how many things actually went down.

  • @sunlight9056
    @sunlight9056 3 роки тому +2

    I hate not being able to binge an entire series. It’s soo good, I want more!

  • @sionsmedia8249
    @sionsmedia8249 3 роки тому +20

    If you think the British conquest of India is a paradox, then you might also think the Persian (later Mughal) Empire, Afghanistan (former Mongols), or Ancient Macadonia. India has a long history of being conquered by smaller foreign powers, the British were just the latest and most successful (conquering the entire sub continent) to do so.

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc 2 роки тому +2

      Afghanistan and Macedonia didn't conquer India.
      English were lucky

    • @nauticaltruck802
      @nauticaltruck802 2 роки тому +2

      India never existed until recently. Most Indian empires aside from the Mughals and the Mauryans never ruled over half of the subcontinent

    • @nauticaltruck802
      @nauticaltruck802 2 роки тому

      Ancient Macedonia defeated a tributary kingdom on the outskirts of modern Pakistan, they didn’t get conquer much

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc 2 роки тому +3

      @@nauticaltruck802 Wrong. India is ancient and Mughals controoled most of the sub-continent

  • @zachbonney7372
    @zachbonney7372 3 роки тому +2

    Yes! So excited for this series! Definitely one of history's most defining moments.

  • @miss42310
    @miss42310 3 роки тому +32

    Can't wait for the fights to begin 😍

  • @Rvc546
    @Rvc546 3 роки тому +1

    I really appreciate this video... How you gave the disclaimer that nothing is certain and every thing is nuanced and subtle to set the tone that its just a version of many versions.

  • @nnspenaz2343
    @nnspenaz2343 3 роки тому +25

    Why aren’t you including Scotland and the rest of Ireland when showing Britain in 1903?

    • @Zveebo
      @Zveebo 3 роки тому +11

      Yeah, that was a little weird, especially given the huge role of Scots in India!

    • @iapetusmccool
      @iapetusmccool 3 роки тому +6

      That map makes no sense at all. For some reason they have included Northern Ireland, which wasn't even a thing at the time.

    • @nnspenaz2343
      @nnspenaz2343 3 роки тому +1

      @@iapetusmccool exactly the whole of Ireland was part of the UK

  • @lewislw4344
    @lewislw4344 2 роки тому +1

    OMG YOU GUYS ACTUALLY USED THE MIRACLE OF ISTANBUL AS AN HISTORICAL REFERENCE!!! As a Liverpool fan I almost screamed when I saw that frame at 2:55
    YNWA Extra Credits team!

  • @yousefshahin2654
    @yousefshahin2654 3 роки тому +16

    Always glad to see a new series

  • @aaditya_69
    @aaditya_69 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for making this series I have been waiting for years for you to make a series on this topic

  • @robbiecotton6827
    @robbiecotton6827 3 роки тому +19

    Well obviously one of the writers in this series is a Liverpool supporter and I very much approve. More history videos need references to the miracle in Istanbul ;)

  • @nishugoyal
    @nishugoyal 3 роки тому

    Finally, there is a topic on youtube worth commenting. Looking forward to binge watch this.

  • @gracefulcubix4730
    @gracefulcubix4730 3 роки тому +23

    the EIC were probably the only ones to conquer India from the Southern and north eastern parts interestingly. Most foreign conquerors arrive from the north west and conquer the fertile north. when they try their hand in the southern parts, their resources were exhausted due to a multitude of factors and loose them in a matter of years to rebels.

  • @safisiddiqui6368
    @safisiddiqui6368 3 роки тому +2

    That's a splendid intro to this topic. Much better than our history books.

  • @kloassie
    @kloassie 3 роки тому +10

    0:46 _"... with candalabra's on it's tusks"_
    This is arguably the closest IRL version of the ancient psychic tandem war elephant!!

  • @WebertHest
    @WebertHest 3 роки тому +9

    BadHistory is going to have a field day with this series. So many misrepresentations, untruths, slides, etc already.

  • @sreeram4964
    @sreeram4964 2 роки тому +6

    Thing is.. your story is England vs India. But India was a region with many kingdoms. Britain simply made them fight each other.

  • @jaysmith1408
    @jaysmith1408 3 роки тому

    Is the podcast feed discontinued? Driving all night, the brilliant and clever history is a great asset.

  • @Just_A_History_Nerd
    @Just_A_History_Nerd 3 роки тому +18

    Was that annoying chair really necessary?

    • @xxmemestar69xx82
      @xxmemestar69xx82 3 роки тому

      Yes, because idiots love to act like they’re experts.

  • @realhumphreyappleby
    @realhumphreyappleby 3 роки тому

    Finally you cover Indian History. About time!

  • @gonotgone1
    @gonotgone1 3 роки тому +9

    It’s nice to see your referring to Britain and not just England, but why is Scotland not coloured in with England, Scotland and Northern Ireland?

    • @ciarancurley5482
      @ciarancurley5482 3 роки тому +1

      There betting on Scottish Independence happening before Irish reunification lol

    • @PaulfromChicago
      @PaulfromChicago 3 роки тому +2

      At the time the map was referencing, Scotland was an independent nation.

    • @gonotgone1
      @gonotgone1 3 роки тому +4

      @@PaulfromChicago in 1903 I think not, later on in the video when they talk about the English empire absolutely makes sense, but at the beginning of the video they are taking about 1903 and then it’s the United Kingdom but the map excludes Scotland for some bizarre reason.

    • @PaulfromChicago
      @PaulfromChicago 3 роки тому +1

      @@gonotgone1 yup, you're right.

  • @UditSingh
    @UditSingh 3 роки тому

    You have no idea how long I've waited for this.

  • @karuncreates955
    @karuncreates955 3 роки тому +3

    I am indian and I am very fascinated and psyched about the series . I am always told the common explanation but a ton more praising of India . I am proud to know the true truth and power of india . Love from india .,❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ . Pin me if you can . Yours sincerely 🤠🤠.byee howdy

  • @im_not_emo5249
    @im_not_emo5249 3 роки тому +2

    I have been waiting for this one for a long time, I love this channel

  • @89technical
    @89technical 3 роки тому +29

    We're going to start the Conquest of India Series: The Introduction takes up a whole videos lol
    Guys you might be at this for the rest of your lives. I should know: I was there at the end.

  • @pozzowon
    @pozzowon 2 роки тому +1

    "Sorry Milan"
    That hurt so bad, 17 years later

  • @alessandrodelogu7931
    @alessandrodelogu7931 3 роки тому +7

    The British conquered India like one eats an artichoke: one leaf at a time.

    • @eljanrimsa5843
      @eljanrimsa5843 3 роки тому

      not really. instead of traditional conquering, they somehow managed to buy, bribe, inherit, take by force, take by treaty, take by fraud, until the British sat at the dominant center of the artichoke

    • @alessandrodelogu7931
      @alessandrodelogu7931 3 роки тому

      @@eljanrimsa5843 yes, but still one kingdom at a time. The British took advantage of the fragmentation of India to become slowly, with patience, the dominant power of the subcontinent. This would not have happened with a strong and united Indian empire, like the Mughals or the Maurya.

  • @Maharaja_of_Punjab
    @Maharaja_of_Punjab 3 роки тому +1

    YES YES FINALLY INDIAN HISTORY WITH ITS OWN VIDEO

  • @foundationgamer9771
    @foundationgamer9771 3 роки тому +7

    2:46 2 + 2 does not equal whale, it equals 5.
    Anyone get it?

  • @rajnair4678
    @rajnair4678 3 роки тому +5

    A series on INDIA with a Liverpool FC reference! Already my most fav extra history episode 😍😍

  • @femia4125
    @femia4125 3 роки тому +5

    Omg best champions league ever. My mind was blown with the match

  • @Teag_Brohman15
    @Teag_Brohman15 3 роки тому +2

    thanks for posting this on my Birthday

  • @ace448
    @ace448 3 роки тому +16

    Also when you have contradictory accounts, reasons or evidence for a historical event. “Truth” becomes fluid. Add in and imperfect picture and you come into paradox’s and contradictions. Europes dominance over the world, in the end comes down to a lot of luck. Seriously a conflict here lasting just a little longer, and empire not collapsing at the exact moment there. Could have drastically changed the world.

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 3 роки тому +1

      There is only 1 truth.

  • @HulkRo-e5r
    @HulkRo-e5r 25 днів тому +1

    the videos are so good

  • @17-MASY
    @17-MASY 2 роки тому +2

    3:24 I love this picture

  • @skjj2550
    @skjj2550 3 роки тому +1

    Heck yeah , my favourite series till date

  • @leonhardeuler7647
    @leonhardeuler7647 3 роки тому +3

    Extra Credits seems to be trying to widen *their* empire of Indian viewers. Not that I am complaining - we get some great history content.

  • @Bricriu-gj9dd
    @Bricriu-gj9dd 3 роки тому

    Read the title and thought this would be about Chandra Gupta. Now I'm super HYPED to learn about something I never learn about!

  • @aidanrogers4438
    @aidanrogers4438 3 роки тому +33

    1:27 Why isn’t Scotland included in the U.K. here? Has the channel become a Nicola Sturgeon simp or something?

    • @dandy-lions5788
      @dandy-lions5788 3 роки тому +7

      Act of Union with Scotland wasn't passed until 1707

    • @queenofhearts3664
      @queenofhearts3664 3 роки тому +26

      @@dandy-lions5788 that map was supposed to depict 1903

    • @landmine9302
      @landmine9302 3 роки тому +1

      They are americans, daily reminder that they think that, "Braveheart" was an accurate potrayal of reality. Thank god their country is in decline.

    • @exiledadrian103
      @exiledadrian103 3 роки тому

      @@landmine9302 As an American: You don’t say

  • @fantalandia4273
    @fantalandia4273 3 роки тому +1

    Nice episode Extra Credits! However, guess who's back at 10:06? Of course, Walpole!

  • @dbilly121
    @dbilly121 3 роки тому +3

    As an Englishman, do love to see the 2005 Liverpool triumph shown :P

  • @bernadmanny
    @bernadmanny 3 роки тому +1

    I'm always excited to learn about another perspective on historical events.

  • @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
    @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv 3 роки тому +5

    Oh boy, this ought to be good.

  • @ishanbhatt6067
    @ishanbhatt6067 3 роки тому

    Ohhh.. Looking forward to this series!

  • @abhijaysarmah7418
    @abhijaysarmah7418 3 роки тому +6

    Me: Wonders if my day can get worse
    Extra history: releases a video on indian history
    Me: I am shocked and my day is made

  • @m.majaaz8464
    @m.majaaz8464 3 роки тому

    Finally!!! I’ve been waiting for this for years 😊

  • @PaulGAckerman
    @PaulGAckerman 3 роки тому +12

    another example is if your houston oilers were leading 35 - 3 against the buffalo bills in a playoff game in 1993. and the bills quarterback is their backup, frank reich, filling in for their star jim kelly, who is injured. then watching those same bills come from behind to win 41 - 38 in overtime.

  • @Т1000-м1и
    @Т1000-м1и Рік тому +1

    The third time something I watch on youtube might be useful

  • @MasteringJohn
    @MasteringJohn 3 роки тому +3

    My understanding is that India fell to colonization due to a lack of institutional rigor which made them vulnerable to foreign powers, coupled with plenty of regional/ethnic divides which enabled said powers to play them off each other. As industrialization kicked in, the divergence between Western Europe and East Asia generally made these weaknesses fatal, allowing the British to consolidate control of the subcontinent (also the construction of the Suez Canal cutting down logistical costs).

  • @forzaacmilan36
    @forzaacmilan36 Рік тому +2

    I didn't expect to get attacked like this. No need, no need.

  • @peterjerman7549
    @peterjerman7549 3 роки тому +12

    This series promises to have a really long episode of Lies considering how they're downplaying the EIC and romanticising the Mughal empire.

  • @rathnirradio4350
    @rathnirradio4350 3 роки тому +1

    NEW EXTRA HISTORYYYYYYYYY