9:05 : Pair of kings can be full house on the river too, isnt it? Despite the solver folds some Kings (with diamond cards) and mostly calls low pockets even they are more vulnerable to high cards, probably it would be still better to call low pockets, at least only those that can get the full house with diamond river card?
Yeah, sorry, a bit unclear explanation from my side. The idea is that we can't view Kx as our out to a higher full house because we won't get paid off on such rivers - BB will have to check almost all weaker full houses and give up a lot of bluffs on 33KxK but on T Q Jriver he keeps value shoving 3x's and bluffing no made hands
One of my favorite moves for higher stakes is the 3 bet bluff on the flop when IP against a check raise on very dynamic flops. Against skilled high stakes grinders, I find that they go out of their way to make sure they are x/raising their bottom of range draws with no showdown value at the correct frequency and in doing so it creates an imbalance. When they really do flop value hands, they are typically donk leading or at least trapping for one street instead of x/raising right on the flop. Perhaps it’s just the higher stakes games I’ve played in and I’m not sure how applicable this exploit is in most high stakes games, but I’ve made a lot of money with this particular exploit in the bigger games I’ve played
Good insight. I would just like to point out that your the solver preferring pocket pairs over Kx bc of their ability to fill up vs 3x I dont think is correct. Both Kx and QQ have 2 outs to fill up on the river.
Hi Jayser, in 9:07 , you said, KX is drawing dead against trips? I am wondering why? Just to understand what you mean here? K can be the outs, probably even when we hit K, it's too obvious for us to extract value, so the implied odds is very bad. So you consider it to be drawing almost dead? Can you elaborate a littble on this? Thx!
The idea is that we can't view Kx as our out to a higher full house because we won't get paid off on such rivers - BB will have to check almost all weaker full houses and give up a lot of bluffs on 33KxK but on T Q Jriver he keeps value shoving 3x's and bluffing no made hands
Damn detail you go into analysing the other Regs, presume you use player report tool in PT4? Is it worth doing this on Mid Stakes much, or game selecting going to be the biggest and most important aspect to focus on as I imagine there are more Recs are Mid Stakes.
Thanks for your amazing insight into your thought process! Your English is very good and easy to understand, but there's one thing you repeatedly say you can quickly fix : "Villain" is not pronounced "Willain" 😉
Thanks for the video. Do you think it is possible to exploit the whole pool of players on your limit, for example, NL50? There are a lot of players, and you cannot know them, but players on this limit might have common patterns to act.
you said your AA river jam makes him call some worse hands and fold some better one's. Which better hands than AA is your opponent folding versus your river x/jam?
Why is the pair of kings drawing dead against trips and a pocket pair not . Doesntmake sense , you can river a full house with a pair of kings as well . Its a 2 outer just like a pocket pair ?
Sorry, a bit unclear explanation from my side. The idea is that we can't view Kx as our out to a higher full house because we won't get paid off on such rivers - BB will have to check almost all weaker full houses and give up a lot of bluffs on 33KxK but on T Q J river he keeps value shoving 3x's and bluffing no made hands
Think aggressive players are over bluffing the river xraise spots as OOP. They aren’t x thick value enough to balance the bluffs and turn a ton of their 1p hands. Even though solver does it, the freq is quite low and there is an inherent logic to it. Vs aggressive players I would bluffcatch quite wide and if I were bluffing I would 3bet jam a ton. High variance line but I think it will be +EV in practice.
On this video you say that even high stakes players dont get nowhere near close to GTO play. Do you think this statement means that they are not as good as people think, or are they just purposefully deviating from theory in a lot of spots?
GTO is not the most profitable strategy. A lot of extra EV in poker comes from punishing people for their mistakes, which GTO does too, but not nearly as effectively as exploitative strategies
Here, I would partially agree with you when we discuss low and mid-stakes games, especially in rooms with weak and/or indifferent security, like WPN. However, when considering high stakes games on platforms such as Stars or GG, I'd say that they are relatively clean and safe, with some exceptions. There have been instances where cheaters managed to play undetected for a while but were eventually caught sooner or later. Even with such exceptions, there are still good profits to be made, provided that there are enough recreational players in the game. You can refer to Smarthand's yearly top winners list or other data mining sites for perspective
I appreciate your detailed response, it's hard for me to trust the online games after all these scandals @@Jayser1337 as you said, the high stakes games are more secure, which is sad for us who used to play low and midstakes games.
"Remember you are playing ahainst humans, not computers" false. We are playing against some cyborgs, human computers. It may have been the case 20 years ago, when there was no solvers and poker bots. But in the present day, most of the time you will play against cyborgs that have rta and alot of other poker programs
The first time I heard that poker was dead and no more money could be made was in 2011, after Black Friday. The first bots on PokerStars, which were crushing NL400-1K and which I personally reported and was part of the investigation group for, appeared around 2012 or 2013. You can conduct your own research and study the data of the high stakes top winners over the last few years to see that their profits have not significantly decreased, even though the volume in the main pool games has dropped. Also, judging by my poker friends, many of whom play high stakes today, poker seems anything but dead, despite all the bots/RTA scandals; decent EV is still there. Despite all this, I do agree that the trend has been negative, and nobody knows what online poker will look like in a couple of years. Hopefully, there is still enough time to achieve your goals (provided that you're already playing at midstakes or higher today) and accumulate knowledge that could be applied in live games if online games deteriorate.
9:05 : Pair of kings can be full house on the river too, isnt it? Despite the solver folds some Kings (with diamond cards) and mostly calls low pockets even they are more vulnerable to high cards, probably it would be still better to call low pockets, at least only those that can get the full house with diamond river card?
Yeah, sorry, a bit unclear explanation from my side. The idea is that we can't view Kx as our out to a higher full house because we won't get paid off on such rivers - BB will have to check almost all weaker full houses and give up a lot of bluffs on 33KxK but on T Q Jriver he keeps value shoving 3x's and bluffing no made hands
Yeah, now I see. Thank you for the explanation!@@Jayser1337
Thank you for doing this free content❤
Nice vid! AA turns into a bluff (merge concept) is really impressive 😮
Hey Jay, really high quality video, can see you put a lot of effort into editing! Loving it!
Great content as always, thanks!
OBORRA ❤️ thanks for doing this channel and not giving a shit about sharing reads, that makes this my new favorite UA-cam channel. Keep going!
No way he is oborra
He is OBORRA on Winamax. Played a bunch with him when he was still around
Oborra is just one of my usernames but I'm not the original guy (he got banned for RTA many years ago on PokerStars)
fan of your content! keep it up :)
Thanks mate
дуже якисний контент, так тримати!!!! ;) а головне швидко і без води!!!
Amazing video thank you for sharing your thought process. Look forward to seeing more content from you
One of my favorite moves for higher stakes is the 3 bet bluff on the flop when IP against a check raise on very dynamic flops. Against skilled high stakes grinders, I find that they go out of their way to make sure they are x/raising their bottom of range draws with no showdown value at the correct frequency and in doing so it creates an imbalance. When they really do flop value hands, they are typically donk leading or at least trapping for one street instead of x/raising right on the flop. Perhaps it’s just the higher stakes games I’ve played in and I’m not sure how applicable this exploit is in most high stakes games, but I’ve made a lot of money with this particular exploit in the bigger games I’ve played
крутые видео чел. Огромная благодарность, продолжай
Good insight. I would just like to point out that your the solver preferring pocket pairs over Kx bc of their ability to fill up vs 3x I dont think is correct. Both Kx and QQ have 2 outs to fill up on the river.
check out the pinned comment :)
Вау, потужно! Потужно!❤️🔥
Hi Jayser, in 9:07 , you said, KX is drawing dead against trips? I am wondering why? Just to understand what you mean here? K can be the outs, probably even when we hit K, it's too obvious for us to extract value, so the implied odds is very bad. So you consider it to be drawing almost dead? Can you elaborate a littble on this? Thx!
The idea is that we can't view Kx as our out to a higher full house because we won't get paid off on such rivers - BB will have to check almost all weaker full houses and give up a lot of bluffs on 33KxK but on T Q Jriver he keeps value shoving 3x's and bluffing no made hands
Excellent work
Great content
Loved this. Insta sus! Amazing stuff!
Awesome video, thanks!
Очень качественное видео, красава!
Спасибо, Артём, рад тебя здесь видеть :)
3:49 Возможно стоило показать карту ривера(или сказать что был бланк) перед тем как объяснять свой ход рассуждения на ривере.
Спасибо. Удивительно, как я это упустил)
Damn detail you go into analysing the other Regs, presume you use player report tool in PT4? Is it worth doing this on Mid Stakes much, or game selecting going to be the biggest and most important aspect to focus on as I imagine there are more Recs are Mid Stakes.
I'll definitely make a vid on the subject in the future, the question is too complex to give a short answer here
Thanks for your amazing insight into your thought process! Your English is very good and easy to understand, but there's one thing you repeatedly say you can quickly fix : "Villain" is not pronounced "Willain" 😉
Thanks man, vill fix that :D
последняя раздача лютая, жаль кола по К7 не получил. а вполне мог бы)
Jamming AA there is insane wow
yooo Ive also got Displates at my crib haha. I play hs on acr but maybe weve crossed paths?
Thanks for the video. Do you think it is possible to exploit the whole pool of players on your limit, for example, NL50? There are a lot of players, and you cannot know them, but players on this limit might have common patterns to act.
That’s what a lot of people are doing with mass data analysis.
No, it is more complex than that. Most field researches may be very misleading, more on that in the future videos ;)
Очень приятно видеть крутой англоязычный контент (как по содержанию, так и по оформлению) от представителей СНГ.
you said your AA river jam makes him call some worse hands and fold some better one's. Which better hands than AA is your opponent folding versus your river x/jam?
The worse trips
Thanks! I would personally prefer a bit slower pace though. Information just jumps at you giving no time to comprehend.
This guy doesn't know u can re watch videos
Why is the pair of kings drawing dead against trips and a pocket pair not . Doesntmake sense , you can river a full house with a pair of kings as well . Its a 2 outer just like a pocket pair ?
Sorry, a bit unclear explanation from my side. The idea is that we can't view Kx as our out to a higher full house because we won't get paid off on such rivers - BB will have to check almost all weaker full houses and give up a lot of bluffs on 33KxK but on T Q J river he keeps value shoving 3x's and bluffing no made hands
Think aggressive players are over bluffing the river xraise spots as OOP. They aren’t x thick value enough to balance the bluffs and turn a ton of their 1p hands. Even though solver does it, the freq is quite low and there is an inherent logic to it. Vs aggressive players I would bluffcatch quite wide and if I were bluffing I would 3bet jam a ton. High variance line but I think it will be +EV in practice.
It is definitely an idea worth exploring against some overaggro opponents 👍
Вау, какие люди на Ютубе!
Ja sam Gale is я сам Гале, read exactly like that.
He's either Serbian, or from ex YU.
wait what legends now do youtube content ahah i think i have a lot to catch up here
was QJs not a no brainer call preflop?
No, it is indifferent between calling or 4betting, (screenshots provided in the video)
On this video you say that even high stakes players dont get nowhere near close to GTO play. Do you think this statement means that they are not as good as people think, or are they just purposefully deviating from theory in a lot of spots?
GTO is not the most profitable strategy. A lot of extra EV in poker comes from punishing people for their mistakes, which GTO does too, but not nearly as effectively as exploitative strategies
привет, что по переводу?
Пока что не нашел решение, которое бы во всём устраивало
@@Jayser1337 Субтитры отличное решение.
"we're playing against humans not computers"
We'll I beg to differ brother
Here, I would partially agree with you when we discuss low and mid-stakes games, especially in rooms with weak and/or indifferent security, like WPN.
However, when considering high stakes games on platforms such as Stars or GG, I'd say that they are relatively clean and safe, with some exceptions. There have been instances where cheaters managed to play undetected for a while but were eventually caught sooner or later.
Even with such exceptions, there are still good profits to be made, provided that there are enough recreational players in the game. You can refer to Smarthand's yearly top winners list or other data mining sites for perspective
I appreciate your detailed response, it's hard for me to trust the online games after all these scandals @@Jayser1337 as you said, the high stakes games are more secure, which is sad for us who used to play low and midstakes games.
Yes yes yes
"Remember you are playing ahainst humans, not computers" false. We are playing against some cyborgs, human computers. It may have been the case 20 years ago, when there was no solvers and poker bots. But in the present day, most of the time you will play against cyborgs that have rta and alot of other poker programs
The first time I heard that poker was dead and no more money could be made was in 2011, after Black Friday.
The first bots on PokerStars, which were crushing NL400-1K and which I personally reported and was part of the investigation group for, appeared around 2012 or 2013.
You can conduct your own research and study the data of the high stakes top winners over the last few years to see that their profits have not significantly decreased, even though the volume in the main pool games has dropped.
Also, judging by my poker friends, many of whom play high stakes today, poker seems anything but dead, despite all the bots/RTA scandals; decent EV is still there.
Despite all this, I do agree that the trend has been negative, and nobody knows what online poker will look like in a couple of years. Hopefully, there is still enough time to achieve your goals (provided that you're already playing at midstakes or higher today) and accumulate knowledge that could be applied in live games if online games deteriorate.
@@Jayser1337as a live reg I can say poker hasn’t been as alive as it is now in maybe 15 years
Nice, so there is even more hope that the poker skills will not become obsolete in the near future as AI takes over many jobs@@209twitch
Amazing video! Thanks