When you hate your most popular song

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    Experience the behind-the-scenes story of one of the most iconic songs of all time - "Creep" by Radiohead. Join us as we delve into the mind of Thom Yorke and uncover the inspiration, reluctance, and legal battles that surrounded the creation of this hit. Get a glimpse into the band's evolution and their constant drive to push boundaries in music. Don't miss out on this captivating journey through the rise of Radiohead.
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:16 The Making of Creep
    2:22 The Reception
    3:05 The One Hit Wonders
    4:22 The Copycat Conflict
    5:46 The Never-Ending Song
    7:28 Conclusion
    #Middle8 #Radiohead #Creep #VideoEssay
    The Making of Radiohead's Iconic Hit 'Creep
    The Story Behind Radiohead's 'Creep
    The Inspiration Behind Radiohead's 'Creep'

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  • @Middle8
    @Middle8  Рік тому +171

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    • @igimaster5872
      @igimaster5872 Рік тому +13

      if youre a big fan of radiohead or just love music in general i highly reccomending you to drink water

  • @rarrera1409
    @rarrera1409 Рік тому +7053

    I've always wondered what it would feel as an artist to be expected to play that one song for years or decades

    • @jordanschlansky4093
      @jordanschlansky4093 Рік тому +63

      sounds like a Guantanamo scheme

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  Рік тому +610

      I think it mostly affected them in their early days when their catalogue wasn't as vast. Repetition becomes a part of the job and I'm sure some tracks from OK Computer are probably just as daunting for them to play as well.

    • @RiseUpToYourAbility
      @RiseUpToYourAbility Рік тому +125

      Probably the same as a teacher having to teach the same subject for years

    • @edwardchen9619
      @edwardchen9619 Рік тому +44

      it's like i write sins not tragedies

    • @kevinf8439
      @kevinf8439 Рік тому

      Many one hit wonders who just wanna earn some money are totally OK with it.

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios Рік тому +3269

    A major reason "Creep" became massive is that it had the same soft verses, loud chorus pattern that makes up Nirvana's output. They probably didn't intend to write yet-another-Grunge song, but that was the sound of 1993.

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  Рік тому +355

      You’re right! That whole style was originally inspired by The Pixies

    • @pacificostudios
      @pacificostudios Рік тому +49

      @@Middle8 - Thanks for backing up my perceptions.

    • @noonmoom9615
      @noonmoom9615 Рік тому +23

      Classic Pixies Magic

    • @qr5964
      @qr5964 Рік тому +2

      A major reason you're a nerd is because of this comment

    • @pacificostudios
      @pacificostudios Рік тому +38

      @@qr5964 - Are you trying to make me feel bad? Because I already have three graduate degrees and you've never taken the GRE.

  • @AndreudePedro
    @AndreudePedro Рік тому +5045

    You forgot to mention the mental cost of singing over and over a song with such self-hating lyrics, considering how raw and true they seem!! Great video!!

    • @4xmo
      @4xmo Рік тому +33

      no

    • @El1society
      @El1society Рік тому +151

      @@4xmo yes

    • @MasonDaw
      @MasonDaw Рік тому +252

      To be fair, almost all of their other songs are 100x heavier than Creep's subject matter

    • @mr.gullible2506
      @mr.gullible2506 Рік тому +60

      @@MasonDaw but they may still relate to the feelings expressed on those other songs while a song like creep they no longer feel connected to or want to be associated with because they find it’s subject matter averse to what they believe

    • @greyfox4838
      @greyfox4838 Рік тому +32

      @@MasonDaw but tbf those other songs have more vague lyrics, but creep's lyrics are so direct and naked

  • @LuziFearon
    @LuziFearon Рік тому +2255

    Cobain hated Smells like teen spirit and Beethoven hated the moonlight sonata for similar reasons

    • @That1artsychic
      @That1artsychic Рік тому +277

      “Moonshine Sonata”. That’s gonna get at least 30 chuckles out of me for the rest of the day.

    • @LuziFearon
      @LuziFearon Рік тому +162

      @@That1artsychic Oops, translation error from my first language to english

    • @LuisTheG1
      @LuisTheG1 Рік тому +240

      @@That1artsychicThe original German name is „Mondscheinsonate“. „Schein“ translates to „shine“. Though moonshine and moonlight mean totally different things in English. So I guess this is where the confusion comes from.

    • @ellie_olivia.
      @ellie_olivia. Рік тому +40

      Same with tyler and yonkers

    • @That1artsychic
      @That1artsychic Рік тому +34

      @@LuziFearon Understandable. English is hard and has weird rules.

  • @Exnem
    @Exnem Рік тому +1534

    Getting Yorke to even strum that opening is a herculean feat on it's own.

  • @losfogo7149
    @losfogo7149 Рік тому +211

    Seeing creep live at a Radiohead concert it's like seeing a shiny Pokemon. Might not be the best, but it's so damn rare

    • @themurkis2506
      @themurkis2506 11 місяців тому +14

      Missed opportunity to say "so damn special"

  • @eddiequincy3053
    @eddiequincy3053 Рік тому +1965

    Imagine going to a Radiohead concert and asking for Creep instead of Jigsaw 😔

    • @davidozab2753
      @davidozab2753 Рік тому +84

      Or ANY OTHER SONG NOT OFF PABLO HONEY

    • @gongalicious
      @gongalicious Рік тому +8

      RIGHT???? Cosigned bc that was some real stuff you said right there

    • @spacetimeduality
      @spacetimeduality Рік тому +4

      @@davidozab2753 nahh the other songs are cool

    • @lucasbatista9369
      @lucasbatista9369 Рік тому +6

      all blow out and sugar coated 😔

    • @izshtar
      @izshtar Рік тому +11

      If i would be given a chance to see them live and can suggest a song, It would be Lift.

  • @user-en9ug1ew9r
    @user-en9ug1ew9r Рік тому +1091

    This song is the reason why I always thought that radiohead is just a generic grunge band. I remember how I wasnt really interested in checking their other stuff judging by a few pablo honey and the bends songs. And one day I stumbled upon How to disappear completely and I was fckn crushed by this song and didnt believe that the creep guys made it. Thats how my lifelong obsession with the band started

    • @lee_rock_films
      @lee_rock_films Рік тому +30

      Radiohead love to prove people wrong so I’m glad you’re a fan of theirs

    • @nicolasriveros943
      @nicolasriveros943 Рік тому +23

      i would said taht The Bends is closer to a shoegaze/dreampop act than a Grunge one, specially if you consider songs like Planet Telex or My Iron Lung

    • @user-en9ug1ew9r
      @user-en9ug1ew9r Рік тому +20

      @@nicolasriveros943 its braely shoegaze. Alt rock

    • @nondescriptbeing5944
      @nondescriptbeing5944 Рік тому

      @@lee_rock_films I love listening to how to disappear completely when it’s heavy whiteout snowing while driving. that’s my vibe

    • @cristianoliveira856
      @cristianoliveira856 Рік тому

      same! but for me was glass eyes.

  • @Swimdeep
    @Swimdeep Рік тому +243

    One reason Creep is so popular is because most people can relate to feeling that way about someone-ntm, it’s an awesome sounding song.

    • @lee_rock_films
      @lee_rock_films Рік тому +4

      I get your notion but Creep pales in comparison to their acclaimed work that they went on to make and trust me it’s for the better.

    • @ericdavidwallace
      @ericdavidwallace Рік тому

      yes you nailed it.

    • @TwighlightLugia
      @TwighlightLugia Рік тому +18

      That whole 'people wanting Creep must be mentally challenged' thing aged like such milk. I'm not sure how more obvious to put this, but, yes, if you make a song about being a weirdo who doesn't fit in, it's going to resonate with people who feel like weirdos who don't fit in. It's like telling Batman fans they must have PTSD as a dig.

  • @sparky8079
    @sparky8079 Рік тому +607

    If I were in Thom's shoes, I would absolutely feel the same. If people only knew you for one song and ignored all of the music that you put your heart into making, I would begin to hate it as well. The aversion to the popularity of this song though led to the creation of some of the best albums of all time, so at least you can give it that, lol

    • @PotatoSlices
      @PotatoSlices 11 місяців тому

      Imagine crying like a little bitch like Thom because people know you for one song that you made millions of dollars from?

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral 11 місяців тому

      At least Creep crossed over to the states on the billboard hot 100
      Compared to The Smith's who's biggest crossover How Soon Is Now and it only charted at 36 on the US dance charts. Radiohead has that

  • @HAMTechOficial
    @HAMTechOficial Рік тому +90

    Thom: oh no, not creep again

  • @nicolasriveros943
    @nicolasriveros943 Рік тому +243

    what i find funny is how Creep is constantly pointed out as the "big single that the band hates to play" but now they seem to overcame that (they even play it in the South Amircan tour, when i saw them for the first time). Meanwhile, there's another big single that they refused to play since the 90's, "High & Dry" and no one talks about it lol

    • @cletusbeauregard1972
      @cletusbeauregard1972 Рік тому +46

      Oh, you can find at least a couple of Yorke interviews where he goes on at length about how much he hates that song, and Jonny Greenwood hates it even more. They were basically forced by their label to write a "hit single" and the whole experience was a horror show for them.

    • @cletusbeauregard1972
      @cletusbeauregard1972 Рік тому +17

      @@ryanpowell9003 same here. It stands head and shoulders above everything else they ever did as fas as I'm concerned.

    • @darthultor6365
      @darthultor6365 Рік тому +9

      Karma Police is pretty big too

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Рік тому +2

      Have Radiohead finally overcome the annoyance of needing to play Creep at shows? Hope this isnt a temporary phase before they back out again since the band in the 2010s really seem to go back and forth on playing it live

    • @kimmolaine8069
      @kimmolaine8069 Рік тому +1

      @@darthultor6365 so is Street Spirit. The band doesn't hate those.

  • @efficiencygaming3494
    @efficiencygaming3494 Рік тому +401

    "Creep" is probably the ultimate example of a stand-out track. It was their first and only song to become a massive hit, their only song that still gets played on most radio stations, and it was really the only song in Radiohead's discography to sound the way that it did.
    It was popular because it resonated with a lot of frustrated people during the '90s (and even now), but you can tell that the band did not want to let that song define them. They moved as far away from that sound as they could, while making some of their most impressive work in the process.
    These days, you don't really go to a Radiohead concert just to watch them perform "Creep", but it always comes as a pleasant surprise whenever they do decide to play it.

    • @sadiemoland2157
      @sadiemoland2157 Рік тому +5

      The only other one I hear played on the radio sometimes is High and Dry which, if I’m not mistaken, Thom Yorke also hated haha.

    • @efficiencygaming3494
      @efficiencygaming3494 Рік тому +2

      @@sadiemoland2157 That's cool! I wish my local stations would play that song.
      The funny thing about Radiohead is that they had a number of other radio-friendly tracks besides "Creep". Why doesn't "Fake Plastic Trees" get any airplay? That's a nice pop-rock song. If I'm not mistaken, that song was also somewhat of a hit.

    • @sadiemoland2157
      @sadiemoland2157 Рік тому +7

      @@efficiencygaming3494 yeah I agree that Fake Plastic Trees would be a good radio one, or Just or No Surprises - Karma Police probably gets some air time now and then. I definitely think they have other “hits” besides Creep - Creep was just their biggest.

    • @kobisjeruk
      @kobisjeruk Рік тому +9

      Radiohead is definitely not a one hit wonder band. But there is something unique about Creep. It resonate with a lot of people, period. 80 years from now I wouldnt be surprised if people of that time will still enjoy it the same way ~ something like Queen's We Will Rock You.

    • @efficiencygaming3494
      @efficiencygaming3494 Рік тому +2

      @@kobisjeruk Yeah, definitely. It's a very iconic song. Even if you don't care for the lyrics, you have to admit that it's still brilliant musically. The guitar riffs, drum beats, and even the chord progression are all catchy and memorable in an anthemic kind of way.

  • @michaelcoward1902
    @michaelcoward1902 Рік тому +36

    Lemmy hated playing Ace of Spades...But he played it every night.
    He always said that he would be bummed if he went to a little Richard gig and didn't hear Tutti Fruiti, so he did it for the fans...and that's one of the many reasons why Lemmy was the man.

  • @Zedigan
    @Zedigan Рік тому +17

    Creep, Smells like teen spirit, wonderwall and countless more are the musical equivalent of "say the line bart!"

  • @PeanutBuddha
    @PeanutBuddha Рік тому +89

    I wished you took time to highlight the "Very 2021 Rmx" version of the song that Thom put out recently. It's a very eerie rework that confirms your take that the song is a ghost that haunts the band, even after 20 years

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  Рік тому +46

      I had a few sentences about it in an early draft of the script (including it below), but didn't really feel it connected to the script.
      Strangely in 2021, Thom Yorke released a remixed version of "Creep" called "Creep (Very 2021 Remix)" which is pretty much a slowed down version of the track with some added reverb and a synth now in the mix. Yorke said the remix was done for a friend and for a world that was "seemingly turning upside down."

    • @jamewson
      @jamewson Рік тому +9

      lol it’s literally just creep but slowed down and reverb

    • @HEX_17
      @HEX_17 Рік тому +12

      It’s a shitpost

    • @geneviekent396
      @geneviekent396 Рік тому

      @@Middle8 honestly if he didn’t do it he knows someone else would and he went ahead and made the money off it. Very smart lol

  • @acewingate6993
    @acewingate6993 Рік тому +99

    Beyoncé performs Crazy In Love at EVERY show for the past like 25 years and says it’s still her favorite. I don’t know how she doesn’t hate it! It has to be in the thousands

    • @lkf8799
      @lkf8799 Рік тому +14

      If I got paid a million dollars + to sing the same song 50 times a year I would do it 🤑
      I honestly think it would be the traveling all the time that would mess me up, not singing the same song, although I'm sure it gets tedious some days.
      Think how repetitive most jobs are.

    • @burcu3610
      @burcu3610 9 місяців тому +3

      She change the songs mix in every tour. I think thats why she doesnt hate it.

  • @speedupdude13
    @speedupdude13 8 місяців тому +4

    Calling RADIOHEAD one hit wonders has my jaw on the floor

  • @JohnDoe-vc5qb
    @JohnDoe-vc5qb Рік тому +107

    I feel like we're finally getting to a point where Creep is old enough that it's not attracting the same audience anymore. They've built such a massive body of work that there's no point to waste your money only to hear Creep. It seems like it's becoming a more tongue in cheek wink at the audience when they do finally play it which I honestly kinda like.

  • @thenerdvoid505
    @thenerdvoid505 Рік тому +267

    For the longest time I would only know Radiohead as the band who made Creep. They were just another 90s grunge band to me and it didn't take until a very rough moment in my life for me to open up to more of their music, and that's when I discovered No Suprises, which to this day is still my #1 Radiohead song

    • @Jim005
      @Jim005 Рік тому +8

      Same here. I never gave them much thought until last year when my six year relationship ended. I started expanding my music library and they quickly became one of my top three favorite bands, now up there with Tears for Fears and Steely Dan for me.

    • @pavel228
      @pavel228 Рік тому +2

      No Surprises is just per!fect!

    • @Sin_Brings_Death
      @Sin_Brings_Death 11 місяців тому +3

      Ok Computer was a great album. But yes, Creep was and will always be their biggest hit.

    • @illuise
      @illuise 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Sin_Brings_Death OK Computer is one of the few albums where i'd say "great" or "amazing" are understatements. it's a masterpiece track-to-track, the only album i think that even compares is loveless

  • @kelechi_77
    @kelechi_77 Рік тому +108

    I always find that an artist's most popular song is never the one that actually presents their true sound, skill and abilities, so I never judge how good an artist is based on their biggest song as most of the time the best stuff is normally a deep cut.

    • @samuelthiex
      @samuelthiex Рік тому +9

      yup. it’s oh so quit is SUCH a bad representation for björk for example

    • @clicheguevara5282
      @clicheguevara5282 Рік тому +1

      One of my favorite modern rock bands is Incubus. ...but I rarely liked their hits and singles.

    • @williamrusso3130
      @williamrusso3130 Рік тому +4

      Exactly. That's usually why they become hits in the first place, because it's not their typical sound. Even bands with a "consistent" sound, like AC/DC, can show this trend. AC/DC's biggest songs are just different enough from their typical style to really stand out.

    • @alienfromandromeda8067
      @alienfromandromeda8067 8 місяців тому

      real. i love r.e.m. but losing my religion is NOT their best song

  • @kaitlyn6021
    @kaitlyn6021 Рік тому +40

    When compared to the rest of Radiohead’s discography, Creep looks like an anomaly… almost… a weirdo, one might say…

    • @fcpchop88
      @fcpchop88 Рік тому +8

      Creep, standing alongside the rest of the radiohead discography, "What the hell am I doing here? I don't belong here..."

  • @52BLUE
    @52BLUE Рік тому +125

    Similar to what Silverchair did here in Australia, when they stopped playing material from their first album Frogstomp. I remember watching them play on New Year’s Eve at Pyramid Rock Festival and the crowd was practically begging to hear Tomorrow (their breakthrough track) and Daniel Johns (vocalist) said over the mic “we aren’t going to play anything from Frogstomp. Stop asking”
    I think most bands eventually hate playing their debut material. Imagine playing songs you’ve moved away from, over and over again.

    • @nomanejane5766
      @nomanejane5766 Рік тому +1

      Omg, I haven't heard the name silver chair in ages!

    • @qbsrd
      @qbsrd Рік тому +6

      Yeah and Daniel Johns would sing Freak in the most random ways possible but with great vocal versatility.

    • @Rickshaw_Bohammer
      @Rickshaw_Bohammer Рік тому +2

      Maybe they should write better music

    • @arturoperez1363
      @arturoperez1363 Рік тому

      Silverchair Is my favourite band :)

    • @arturoperez1363
      @arturoperez1363 Рік тому +1

      @@Rickshaw_Bohammer they wrote masterpieces

  • @388C4CGREEN
    @388C4CGREEN Рік тому +13

    what’s happening to steve lacy is very similar to this. nobody knows anything by him other than bad habit. it’s his defining single. he’s completely pissed off because of it

  • @mr.pavone9719
    @mr.pavone9719 Рік тому +25

    My uncle is a big Frank Zappa fan and went to his concerts whenever he performed locally. My uncle told a story about how the band came out and started playing new material but they noticed the crowd wasn't into it. Zappa actually stopped the show, asked the crowd if they wanted to hear the old stuff and dutifully played what the audience wanted to hear.

  • @victorcobane6644
    @victorcobane6644 Рік тому +190

    Always felt bad for artists that end up being defined by songs/albums that they no longer really identify with. At least Creep is, in my opinion, a really good song. And everyone who is *truly* in the know will always remember them for stuff like OK Computer and Kid A much more than Pablo Honey.
    I love Raidohead, at least what I've heard from them so far, and I hope they know that even with the Creep fiasco, they're still icons of nonconventional composition and successful experimentation to many music fans

    • @lukebradford
      @lukebradford Рік тому +1

      I'll remember them for everything they produced, but especially AMSP which is in my top 5 albums of all time.

    • @PotatoSlices
      @PotatoSlices 11 місяців тому +1

      Imagine feeling bad for millionaire entertainers who are asked to do the job they get paid millions of dollars for?

    • @magicvibrations5180
      @magicvibrations5180 11 місяців тому

      ​@@PotatoSlices Jani Lane wrote Cherry Pie because the studio insisted. He ended up being defined completely by that song even though he hated it. After battling alcoholism for many years, he died of alcohol poisoning at 47. You can be a millionaire and still be miserable.

    • @PotatoSlices
      @PotatoSlices 11 місяців тому +1

      @@magicvibrations5180 imagine being a millionaire and miserable.

    • @greenlemon2404
      @greenlemon2404 11 місяців тому

      ​@@PotatoSlices yeah because money equals happiness, right

  • @coleydotmp4
    @coleydotmp4 Рік тому +43

    I think Arctic Monkeys not playing Flourescent Adolescent live anymore is very interesting. They've said in interviews that playing that song feels like they are covering some other band's work. Makes sense, as its definitely an upbeat standout in their work. But damn is it sad!

    • @user-sk3ql4yg5s
      @user-sk3ql4yg5s Рік тому +1

      they what 😭

    • @definitelynotanAIchatbot
      @definitelynotanAIchatbot Рік тому +1

      ​@@user-sk3ql4yg5sThey said that people who like that song are "stupid and gay." This is an actual quote.

    • @chrryflavouredd
      @chrryflavouredd Рік тому +1

      huh?!!?😭😭

    • @zizizig1292
      @zizizig1292 Рік тому +3

      They are actually still playing fluorescent adolescent live. I certainly remember hearing them play it in Munich in April. Not to discredit anything you’ve said just to give you that bit of info

    • @brookebuscemi1290
      @brookebuscemi1290 7 місяців тому

      they’ve played it at most of the north american leg of the car tour this year!

  • @Supremo801
    @Supremo801 Рік тому +38

    Knew this would be about Creep as soon as I saw the title. I don’t blame anyone for being tired of playing the same sad song and the audience requesting it like you never made better music

  • @westonlarue6482
    @westonlarue6482 Рік тому +3

    i would never read a essay really but when you put it in this format this well done it's addictive thanks middle

  • @JobForAMaxboy
    @JobForAMaxboy Рік тому +24

    I can't imagine how awful it must be to be Deep Purple and have to play smoke on the water every night 😬

    • @PotatoSlices
      @PotatoSlices 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm sure they go back to their million dollar homes to cry about it.

  • @anthonycarlos2095
    @anthonycarlos2095 Рік тому +1

    Another classic of yours, great job!

  • @patrickwoods8788
    @patrickwoods8788 Рік тому +31

    You know it's a good day when the Middle 8 drops a another Radiohead video

  • @MforMovesets
    @MforMovesets Рік тому +6

    I had the luck to hear it live in Berlin (atmosphere was insane) and Thom announced it like "Are you happy? Well this is about to change."

  • @raggeragnar
    @raggeragnar Рік тому +19

    The explanation to why they don’t play it is fully acceptable for me. I get it. Another example is how much Gene Simmons hate ”I was made for loving you”. Also ; I forgot who , but someone said - The most dissapointing thing you can hear at a Rolling Stones concert is : ”Here’s a song from our new album”. How boring must it be for Keith & the boys to keep playing their 60’s stuff ?

  • @TanguyBlanchard2
    @TanguyBlanchard2 Рік тому +21

    I went to the doctor today and Creep was in my head the whole time while they examined me

  • @cherryb0ng
    @cherryb0ng Рік тому +40

    I like how this video mentions the recent years because I saw them in 2017 just a year after and they did perform Creep. I never saw a band so inspiring look so rigid and uncomfortable when performing a song.

  • @airwaydude014
    @airwaydude014 Рік тому +12

    Jonny's face during one of the 2016 performances when they got to the chorus just about sums up the band's opinion on Creep.

    • @jackthesmoltangerine
      @jackthesmoltangerine 14 днів тому

      And also, let’s not forget the death stare he gave Thom at Lollapalooza Berlin the moment the song started

  • @deidatalang9687
    @deidatalang9687 Рік тому +8

    Steve Lacy, the singer of ‘Bad habit’ is another artist who has expressed his annoyance of the fact that he is known for that one song. He clearly shows it in his concerts

  • @TheSmilodon85
    @TheSmilodon85 Рік тому +9

    I fount the song like 2 years ago and I thought it was great. The undertones to high tones is gold.

  • @Adyman182
    @Adyman182 Рік тому +45

    I'm actually surprised Song 2 isn't getting the Creep treatment, as that one's even more recognizable and upbeat. Thom Yorke would not say 'woo-hoo' for the rest of his life if he made that song.

    • @lee_rock_films
      @lee_rock_films Рік тому +4

      Song 2 isn’t even Blur’s best song yet it’s their most recognisable one due to the success in America

    • @Adyman182
      @Adyman182 Рік тому +19

      @@lee_rock_films Song 2 is far from their best song just like Creep is far from Radiohead's best song, that's the point

    • @alphachestnut
      @alphachestnut Рік тому +14

      I think it's not getting the treatment because the entire song is a parody. The song makes fun of other songs popular in america, then it goes on to be popular in america. Very poetic

  • @narayantrex2226
    @narayantrex2226 Рік тому +10

    A similar thing happened to David Bowie with Space Oddity, despite him having many songs that were even more successful. Eventually he'd stop playing it for decades. In an interview during a 2003 tour he was asked if he'd play SO again and he said "it's too soon for that" despite the song being more than 30 years old at that point.
    Falco was another musician who struggled with never following up his first hit (Rock me Amadeus) with a song quite as successful

  • @FischerFilmStudio
    @FischerFilmStudio Рік тому +25

    Im still shocked you haven’t talked about the Gorillaz. Damon reinvents them with every album

  • @Eveningshades
    @Eveningshades 9 місяців тому +2

    I’m an artist, and if I release a song that makes me wealthy and successful, I will play it every single show for the fans and never get sick of it 🤷‍♂️

  • @MartinLiska-kr2jb
    @MartinLiska-kr2jb Рік тому +1

    Hi there, really appreciate your videos, love the deeps you're willing to dive when unfolding a band's story. You cover a lot of great artists which is great, but there's I'm still missing and would love to see your take on them(him) - The Brian Jonestown Massacre. Stay cool!

  • @Clodd1
    @Clodd1 Рік тому +102

    I love these types of videos. Really well made.
    I know a lot of people who never heard Creep, but they know Fake Plastic Trees.

  • @RyanHollinger
    @RyanHollinger Рік тому +5

    Great video dude!

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  Рік тому +1

      Thank you!

    • @PlanetXerox
      @PlanetXerox 7 місяців тому

      didn't know Mr. Hoyever is a Radiohead truther

  • @torben6137
    @torben6137 11 місяців тому +1

    “Pablo honey” is one of my favorite albums from my late teens.
    Creep was the one that cought my attention, but very soon i started to listen to the rest and LOVED it.
    Thanks radiohead for beeing one of the bands from my youth ❤

  • @Strangeloving
    @Strangeloving Рік тому +6

    they played it in primavera sound barcelona, 2016, i was there!

  • @shkololo228...
    @shkololo228... Рік тому +4

    I'd love to see a video about either Eliott Smith (also it'll be 20 years since he passed away in 2023) / or bjork

  • @brianbogholtz9485
    @brianbogholtz9485 Рік тому +14

    I've loved this band for over 20 years and have NEVER liked that song. I actually take comfort in knowing that they don't want it representing them.

  • @martijnschilders1726
    @martijnschilders1726 Рік тому +2

    Great video and very interesting 👍🏻

  • @AntonioSegali
    @AntonioSegali Рік тому +6

    the real story that needs a video is radiohead vs high and dry

  • @jevinday
    @jevinday Рік тому +16

    I never knew they got sued for Creep. I fucking hate when these artists start to sue each other over 4 chord songs, what's even worse is how many lawsuits tom petty has been apart of because his music is just so simple. If you're gonna bring music back to it's roots, slow it down, and make it simple, then don't be surprised if someone else makes a song that vaguely resembles your song. I love creep because of its simplicity, it's a song that I think is so accessable because it's really easy to play and sounds good. It's a song that I like to play to warm up when I'm singing and playing. As a band who has been so innovative to the point where they get made fun of for it I could totally see why your most simple song being your most popular would piss you off. At the same time Radiohead isn't an easily digestible band, my friend had to sit me down and literally make me listen to kid a and ok computer all the way through for it to click for me and I'm a musician. Most of their music is not as accessible as Creep. I think Radiohead is great, I'm so glad I got to see them live in 2012. Kid A is my favorite album of theirs for sure.

    • @dropit7694
      @dropit7694 Рік тому +3

      It's not always the artists themselves suing but their record labels or agents

    • @jan279
      @jan279 10 місяців тому +2

      Imagine if these lawsuits existed in the 50s, there'd be endless lawsuits in the music industry because everyone used the blues scale. 😂

  • @cheesybirdmess7349
    @cheesybirdmess7349 Рік тому +11

    First thing came to my mind when i read the title was nirvana - smells like teen spirit

    • @artemis477
      @artemis477 Рік тому +1

      I thought Arctic Monkeys - I bet you look good on the dancefloor

    • @arthurr.r.lucasspublicdoma5621
      @arthurr.r.lucasspublicdoma5621 Рік тому

      @@artemis477 Wait, they hate that song? That's a dope track.

    • @artemis477
      @artemis477 Рік тому +2

      @@arthurr.r.lucasspublicdoma5621 I know that Alex Turner at least (singer) hates the song

  • @shinesparkss5193
    @shinesparkss5193 Рік тому +1

    Just curious because I know I’m the only one who might be asking- could you cover a bit more of stuff on the Killers? I love your Mr. Brightside video and the way you make videos has always been amazing.

  • @thomashugus5686
    @thomashugus5686 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely love the song! I could identify with the content

  • @andrew6978
    @andrew6978 Рік тому +3

    I've seen them a few times and they've played creep. Last was 2017 at Glastonbury.

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia Рік тому +10

    Ive never understood this, even as a musician and songwriter myself. Even if you hate the song that became a hit for you or your band, you gotta respect the fans that created a career for you bc of that hit. I guess its the metalhead in me where my favorite metal bands like A7X and Disturbed always played their well known material/hits too. You cant say Down With The Sickness or Beast And The Harlot werent hits and they played those tunes every time I saw them live. Wouldve been cool for Radiohead to do different versions live of Creep so the live fans still get a taste of that tune. Ive seen videos of Mountain doing cool live versions of Mississippi Queen and Im sure Leslie West played that at every dang show!

    • @illuise
      @illuise 11 місяців тому +4

      creep didn't create radiohead's career though. it attracted fans of a genre that radiohead doesn't even perform. it hurt them more than it helped them, because now people see radiohead as "the creep band" and get disappointed when their other songs are nothing like it.

    • @xmr323
      @xmr323 9 місяців тому +6

      Perhaps I am one of the few that would make this statement but I personally think that bands do not owe their fans particular songs just because they are popular. If a band dislikes a song for what it has become or just outright hate playing it live then they have the full right to choose not to play it.
      I love when bands play obscure songs or special ones at their shows. Not every song has to be a well known one, or even their most popular.

    • @anthonyfernandez82
      @anthonyfernandez82 8 місяців тому +1

      @@xmr323 they better get ready to give them ticket refunds then

  • @MinorCirrus
    @MinorCirrus Рік тому

    I was there when they played it in Paris in 2016 and it was a great moment, because, for me, they seemed to genuinely enjoy playing it again.

  • @midnight6074
    @midnight6074 Рік тому +6

    The true effect of popular thing. How to not hate your own creation when your best work is being ignored because of. I saw the same on Juice Wrld, saying he personally hate “lucid dreams” for being the cause of the rest of his work was being despised and misunderstood, and thinking it was annoying. I Can say radiohead thinks the same about “creep”

  • @illuise
    @illuise 11 місяців тому +4

    i feel for radiohead. it sucks that they're so popular just for Creep, when OK Computer, Kid A, and In Rainbows are regarded as three of the best albums ever made.

  • @debrachambers1304
    @debrachambers1304 Рік тому +42

    On the one hand, always being associated with that one song and people always wanting to hear it would be annoying.
    On the other hand, I can't feel that bad for someone getting famous and able to do their artistic passion as a full time job, and the price is that one song is more popular than the others

  • @rdlalor8767
    @rdlalor8767 Рік тому +4

    They played it lots in their last tour. Sounded great.

  • @NottyGurlStyle
    @NottyGurlStyle 11 місяців тому

    I love Pablo Honey..I ran out and got the album and any other album they released I bought. Just love them but Creep is that classic track that everyone knows instantly. They have so many damn good tracks..I could understand how they feel if all everyone only wants to hear is just the one track despite of all the other amazing tracks they have.

  • @AlienToppedPancakes
    @AlienToppedPancakes Рік тому +3

    I remember coming across a compilation video of Brendon Urie and every time he freaked out on a liveshow when having to preform "I write since not tragedies." On one hand its a bit sad when a crowd loves a song so much that they can be heard clearly singing it over the track and then getting shit for it. But on the other hand I totally understand the monotony of doing the same thing and digging up old wounds every single night. It's a situation you can't win. Especially when fans leave after hearing their favorite song, not giving the band a change to show off their new work and evolve their sound.

  • @RGK93
    @RGK93 Рік тому +6

    And before people start generalizing: Do all veteran musicians get bored of their greatest hits? There's no absolute answer.
    Robert Plant openly admitted he got bored of Stairway to Heaven half wat through the tour WHEN IT WAS STILL NEW! On the other hand Nicko McBrain has stated Hallowed be Thy Name is one of his favorite Iron Maiden songs to perform (the song turned 40 this year and has only been abscent from the setlist on literally 1 tour and a half).
    Something that needs to be taken into consideration is, we all have good and bad days at work. Perforning the same songs could feel amazing in 1 gig and then 2 days later be like "fuck this shit, not in the mood...".
    Also some bands out there like Led Zeppelin or Red Hot Chili Peppers love to improvise and never play the songs exactly the same which keeps it interesting and unpredictable.

  • @percy1977
    @percy1977 8 місяців тому +2

    I saw Thom Yorke in a grocery store in LA today. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
    He said, "Oh, like you're doing now?" I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw Thom trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "Sir, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
    When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually "to prevent any electrical infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

  • @IncPoint
    @IncPoint Рік тому +2

    love the radiohead content

  • @ghostkid252
    @ghostkid252 11 місяців тому +4

    It's so funny that some musicians hate their big tracks like this and others are very protective of theirs. MJ comes to mind with Billie Jean. It was his pride and joy and even though he always wanted to do something new with it, he acknowledged how iconic the Motown performance was and breathed new life into it on every tour and performance.

  • @bluemyst42
    @bluemyst42 10 місяців тому +3

    If a band is constantly trying to redefine their sound and push the boundaries of music, they risk alienating the audience that found something to like about their sound. The people who felt something in the son Creep also felt a connection to the band, but were soon met with a different sound altogether.

  • @mtmadigan82
    @mtmadigan82 Рік тому +1

    They are one of the best bands live/studio of all time. If youve never seen them, check out their tour dates, and do yourself a solid and go see them. Its worth the trip.
    Ive seen 100's of high visibility bands, and radiohead has a few of the best shows ive ever seen and are on my top 10.

  • @manfilth280
    @manfilth280 Рік тому +1

    You should do a video on billy woods, he’s really interesting especially the new album he did, :)

  • @xBlueWolf
    @xBlueWolf Рік тому +4

    I think, to please the audience, a band should play their big hits, but of course it shouldn't be pushed like it was there. And honestly I think Pablo Honey is an incredibly underrated album. "You", "Ripcord", "Anyone Can Play Guitar", "Vegetable", etc. The Bends is still my favorite though!! 🤘

  • @gautiermilewski4322
    @gautiermilewski4322 Рік тому +9

    Love it! I'd also love to see a similar video on Nirvana's Smells

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  Рік тому +1

      Noted!

    • @emolovetree
      @emolovetree Рік тому +1

      @@Middle8 I forget which gig, I think it was one in south America when they where wearing dresses and teased teen spirit all night but either never played it or played it really badly on purpose

  • @user-kq5wq2vw2y
    @user-kq5wq2vw2y 9 місяців тому

    Every song on The bends is Golden infact mine even had Creep on it as a bonus track!❤❤❤

  • @falsedilimma
    @falsedilimma 9 місяців тому +1

    This is why I love this band. They always do what they want.

  • @xbilly_vedovelli1228
    @xbilly_vedovelli1228 Рік тому +3

    💔❤Its crazy how a song can hunt you
    I read somewhere that tom saw the girl again, the one he wrote the song about during a cancert, while singing, and kinda had a panik attack about it....
    does anyone have any information about if he ever talked or interacted with her ever again ?

  • @haldworkin1027
    @haldworkin1027 Рік тому +3

    You know, if you like covering bands that break the mold of what's normal and constantly change it up, then Ween is the perfect subject for a video.

  • @kermitlefrohg3232
    @kermitlefrohg3232 Рік тому

    I love this video, simply bc the beginning told me the name of one of my favorite memes

  • @AqibA.C.
    @AqibA.C. 5 місяців тому

    This is like barely on the subject at this point, but after listening to the _You Were Never Really Here_ soundtrack, finding out from this video that Jonny Greenwood was in Radiohead makes me love it all the more. It's insane how full circle stuff feels sometimes.

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios Рік тому +3

    In at least one interview, the members of "Boston" called their biggest hit as something like "Feels Like the 342nd Time."

  • @bryanebell2003
    @bryanebell2003 Рік тому +4

    I heard Creep on MTV when it came out, I was like, "eh." Heard "Fake Plastic Trees" and "High and Dry" and was like, "that's a lil weird but I like it." I didn't even remember the band name. Couple years later went into a Tracks Records store (maybe it was Blockbuster music) to buy rap CD. I told the guy, I think I want to feel a different way about music, he sat me down, turned on "OK Computer"... I was done, I was changed forever. I never listen to Creep; I will listen to every song on the Pablo Honey album but not Creep.

  • @nadiasohawon9614
    @nadiasohawon9614 9 місяців тому +2

    I would actually ask for ‘Nude’ or ‘talk show host’ before I’d ask for ‘creep’.

  • @actuallyprath
    @actuallyprath Рік тому

    Can you do a video about The Neighborhood? Would love to see an in-depth video about them made by you :)

  • @dmaster5556
    @dmaster5556 Рік тому +6

    Same with the hip-hop group De La Soul and their biggest song Me Myself and I. They grew to dislike it and you can find live recordings from the 2000s where they're chanting "we hate this song!" just before the beat drops lol
    IDK if they still feel that way but it's just like Radiohead, basically every album they made after that strayed further and further from the sound found on that one specific song.

  • @tylerdunnan5059
    @tylerdunnan5059 Рік тому

    That Social Network trailer used the song creep perfectly. One of the greatest movie trailers ever made

  • @gerradfoster8777
    @gerradfoster8777 11 місяців тому +2

    To really twist the blade that is Creep, the girl who inspired the lyrics attended a Radiohead concert. She was in Thom’s clear view. I can only imagine the anxiety that must have ignited. Still, I often wonder if she knew she was the inspiration for the lyrics, or stood there oblivious while mouthing the words to the song🤔

  • @alexrodriguez4227
    @alexrodriguez4227 Рік тому +6

    I haven’t been in the music scene for that many years but in my experience as a live performer I can relate by playing a certain song over and over
    There are two things that can happen:
    You either love to play it and never get sick of it or you deeply hate it but you are force to do it over and over cause you know that the crowd will positively react to it
    I just to cover some songs that picked because I love them but now I can not hear it on the radio or in my phone without having the urge to skip it cause I’ve had enough
    It is so different to play music because you love it than to do it as job
    Working as a musician changed a lot the way I perceive music and I still love it tough but just in another way

  • @ellie_olivia.
    @ellie_olivia. Рік тому +5

    I think similiar thing happened to tyler the creator. Yonkers became so popular and he have to perform it a hundred times. the problem is that he want to grow as an artist and yonkers make him and his fans dont move on and evolve. But great he finnaly getting out of the goblin era tho

  • @varicosevisage4794
    @varicosevisage4794 Рік тому +2

    Kind of reminds me of when I saw Weezer, and Rivers energy absolutely disappeared when performing songs from Blue, it made me feel kind of bad for them

  • @JimmyKlef
    @JimmyKlef Рік тому +2

    I think there’s a massive amount of psychological gold to be mined about this specific thing. So much to say but for example… the fact that they outgrew it is not only good its indicative of massive personal growth. Something that is often stunted for young people who get famous. The fame keeps them trapped there in those moments. Glory days times a million.
    But the way the song came back into the fold was more like a monument to their youth. There’s a distance to it. Even a love to it. A respect birthed partly from the disdain itself. And it’s not just them… their audience understands it in a deeper psychological sense than “yay their big song!” There is a love from the fans to radiohead for acceptance. The acceptance of some unfortunate glory of their lives. The dirt in their youth. It’s all growth.
    If you aren’t embarrassed by stuff you did ten years ago, are you growing? That’s a common thought. … But then there should be more after. … If you don’t come to accept yourself, who you were, are you growing? That should be the obvious second step, which radiohead here demonstrates… but i think many other bands are often stuck on the first step because they are just doing it because they see other bands do it and think it’s cool to be above your own bullshit. And it is. To a point. But how small and trite it is to stop there. Coming to accept your life is a wonderfully important part of living.
    All that being said… i am a songwriter myself and i regularly experience all of this. You love everything brand new. For obvious reasons. And then you scrutinize them and categorize and compare. You begin to distance from most of them, and even be embarrassed by some wondering how in the world you ever thought it was any good. (The whole time during there are songs you don’t ever hate as well). And it keeps going until they come back around again sort of as monuments… necessary evils that got you to the goods.
    Sort of like the statues of confederate generals. They were definitely loved in their time by their people, but in hindsight it’s a bit weird to celebrate in that way. Because they were obviously not good. But they definitely thought they were, as did many.

  • @El_Andru
    @El_Andru Рік тому +23

    Hopefully Radiohead understood that Creep is a great song.
    Its your oldest song and the hook to your band, it's a message that a lot (if not most) of people struggle with and its delivered in a simple but well crafted manner, enough for listeners not only native english can understand and empathize with. Its important to a lot of people and thats why it should be important for Radiohead.
    Is it their best song? Fuck no lol, I love that the songs hatred in the past fuled them to challenge themselves and create better material.

    • @ericdavidwallace
      @ericdavidwallace Рік тому +1

      yes you're right

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Рік тому

      Funny thing is them attempting to be more than just the Creep guys makes them forget it helped her a bigger crowd

    • @StefanMel
      @StefanMel 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Thomasmemoryscentral my Iron Lung is exactly about this. They know that Creep gave them fame and a reason to exist as a band. But not in the way they would like it to. Just like an iron lung keeps you alive.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral 11 місяців тому

      @@StefanMel here is my compromise to them: maybe they switch it anytime they play concerts for their set lists

  • @cmja09
    @cmja09 Рік тому +3

    Reminds me of Fountains of Wayne hating their most popular song Stacy's Mom

  • @vaderdaniels
    @vaderdaniels Рік тому

    Saw them play in Coachella 2017 which I never expected to see it.

  • @bmjames
    @bmjames 11 місяців тому

    When I saw Radiohead in 2003, people were shouting for Let Down (a song they rarely played live back then), and he teased the opening in a similar way.

  • @klocke-hx3xl
    @klocke-hx3xl Рік тому +4

    Never understood why Pablo honey wasn't more appreciated by fans. It's got those five songs on there that are just about perfect, IMO.

    • @illuise
      @illuise 11 місяців тому +1

      because it's not a good album lol

    • @klocke-hx3xl
      @klocke-hx3xl 11 місяців тому +1

      @@illuise Prove it isn't a good album, little girl.

    • @illuise
      @illuise 11 місяців тому +2

      @@klocke-hx3xl It's just generic. The songs just seem to have the same structure, the same dynamics, and I hate hearing Thom whine about his love life. There are good songs in that album like Blow Out, Anyone Can Play Guitar and You, but the other moments just seem so cookiecutter. It's not genre-defining at all, will never be considered a milestone track, and would never be popular without creep.
      OK Computer redefined alternative rock, reinvigorated art rock, was critically-acclaimed immediately, and is a hallmark in any top-10 list.
      Kid A was the most highly-anticipated album since In Utero, and while having relatively lukewarm critical reception, is still a top-10 album to many.
      Meanwhile, Pablo Honey completely flopped in the initial release, led to them being called "British Nirvana", "doesn't really deliver anything you haven't heard before", and was not recommended by most publications. It only got popular after The Bends because of Creep.

  • @maxwellreinbachs5741
    @maxwellreinbachs5741 Рік тому +2

    What kind of person would go to a Radiohead show and leave after they play Creep.

  • @Penfold497
    @Penfold497 11 місяців тому

    I saw U2 in 1998, and they did the same tease with Sunday Bloody Sunday.

  • @stephenwarhurst6615
    @stephenwarhurst6615 Рік тому +2

    I see it all the time Poser fans walk out mid concert after a bands biggest hit song is played so they can beat the car park rush. I was at a music festival A-Ha was the last act to play they open up with "Take on Me" and about 50% of the crowd started walking to the exit. You could see on the band's faces they were not impress. The singer then said well our true fans can now move bit more closer to the stage

    • @newnewmee44
      @newnewmee44 Рік тому

      and why is that a bad thing? the car park rush is lesser due to those people, which is a positive thing.