Just saw this film. Thought it was a good solid spy thriller. And very female empowering really. Every corner she turns there's a man there waiting to beat her down, and she gets back up and keeps fighting. It's a film about Russia and how cold, cynical and exploitive of people they can be. How all governments can be.
@@curtiszyr Unlike male power fantasy movies which are great? She wins by using her head and somehow that's wrong too. Are you gay and only want men in your films?
@@curtiszyr Yeah not like those Jason Statham film. Those are very realistic and that's why you fantasize being him? With him? Which one is it. She literally wins by using her head. You should try doing the same
Movie is way better than what they're making it out to be. Lawrence's character also shows a level of strength, intelligence, and resolve you just don't find very often. Didn't feel like a long movie either. And while I like Atomic Blonde it's the polar opposite to this. Don't expect action packed, popcorn fun with neon lights. This is a cold war drama with a far more realistic tone.
I Bought the CIA Red Sparrow awkward relationship. He knew she was a Russian spy trying to play him, she was always playing both sides. These critics either didn't pay attention, or they're just giving bad information. It was the Uncle who put her in the situation to be a Red Sparrow. He saw potential in her, That Was The Whole Point of the movie. Jennifer Lawrence's character is the bad ass her uncle thought she was, and in the end she killed him. Critics are lazy.
The artistic merits notwithstanding, *the main issue with this film is that it is a xenophobic propaganda smear.* Nothing like what is depicted was really happening, so the film is just exploiting the lowest parts of the human brain that need stimulus to hate blacks, Jews, gays, Russians -- whoever the "bad" guys at the moment.
To all the people saying this is to graphic film, come on look at casino, good fellas, pulp fiction, and when Madonna went on stage Looking sexy it was frowned apon at the time, now she's respected as a legend. I predict the same for Jennifer Lawrence. Another bold daring role, looking fantastic and has an intense thriller film to her bow and under her belt. And everyone's talking about it. Not boring or predictable. It was supposed to be shocking this film and it's being criticised for that?
Regarding the floppy disk..Francis Lawrence address this “It’s actually something that is used a fair amount in places like the DOD and CIA,” Lawrence tells Inverse. “They don’t want important information to be on super small storage devices. Those are easy to hide. If you have important information you want them on something a bit bulky, maybe even a bit outdated that you need to have special drives.” As it turns out, old tech makes great security. “It’s an extra layer of protection,” Lawrence adds.
Yep. The Americans with the final season could become one of the great t.v. series ever...Red Sparrow sounds like a Roger Corman version of The Americans with a big budget.
and Kerri Russel is no Keri Russell. I wonder about the judgement and taste of people who make such careless spelling mistakes of their supposedly favorite people.
I just have to ask, do the reviewers know what a "Sparrow" or "Swallow" were in real life? Because they were a thing, they were both male and female, and they were used against foreign targets in the Soviet Union, Europe, Asia and the USA. Among the targets was the French Ambassador to the Soviet Union and his wife.
I saw the movie. I liked it. It has a pretty good story. It has some flaws, but overall for me it is a 7-8 rating. Now, judging the recent reviews these guys gave, it is clear to me that iq drops as you get older. It's complete bonkers to give a well-rounded movie with good performances a 3.4 and give a 10 to a mediocre movie like All about me. Please watch the movie, and tell me they are not as dumb as they look.
Moneybags Ben with the family inheritence is likely a major shareholder in The Young Turks network, so that gives him the clout to hang around regardless of that. That would be my guess anyway.
sha11235 I actually think he's a decent critic but I think he's above that now. But I can't stand how Christy Lemiere has kind of dumbed down her reviews since the early 2000's with all the hip slang and millennial speak! Don't get me started on the fifteen year old girl that's in the body of Alonso Duralde! If he adds one more y to a word that should be left alone I'm gonna pop a blood vessel! The word is action Alonso! There's no such term as action(y) films, just like freaking sciency! What happened to, scientific?
Not surprised not everyone likes this movie - it's not trying to be a pure action movie or cold war thriller. It's like a groady, cynical, subversive Paul Verhoeven-in-the-'80's throwback. It's not as good as classic Verhoeven but I actually enjoyed it quite a bit; didn't find it dull at all.
Jennifer Lawrence went on one of the late night shows recently and said (I'm paraphrasing here) that her nude scenes were a way for her to own her nudity after what happened with the nude photos of her that were released a few years ago. My response to her - not that she or anyone else is particularly looking for a response - would be to say the following: Own it. Don't own it. Do whatever you want, and think whatever you want about it, but put it behind you. The only way you'll ever be able to take away its power over you is to simply move on and don't allow it to control your actions. I know this is an over-simplification of the issue, and nothing can take away the pain that was caused to you by the people responsible for leaking the photos, but try to focus on your art and simply let everything else fade into the background. Be nude, don't be nude, do whatever you want. Whatever choices you make in the future, do it because it's what you want to do, or because it's what your art demands, or really for any reason you want; but, don't do it because of anything those creeps did to you, because that's what gives them power. Jennifer Lawrence is an exceptional actress who deserves much better movie roles than a lot of the dreck she's been in over the years.
Deserves better roles? She has her pick! And she is an overrated actress which has become more and more obvious in recent years. I think Hollywood is catching on. I used to be a huge fan but you can tell by the trailer, her acting really isn't much to write home about.
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I kindof enjoyed this. It was corny and raunchy and exploits Lawrence but it was fun to watch. I also think this movie was a subtle way to convince the citizenry that russia and trump by extension cant be trusted. Hollywood is always playing political tricks and its getting old.
Spot on! I've just watched it and come looking for reviews.. yes apparently the Russian secret service is uniquely unscrupulous. Western governments would never engineer compro-mat or torture anyone! It is a fun movie despite/because of such nonsense...
He didn't have to take a paycheck for this. It was his decision. If you want to see him in a great role in a great film, check out Margin Call, about the 2008 financial meltdown.
guys, you are taking the whole social justice warrior thing way to ourthwere. RED SPARROW IS very conscious of itself, very interesting, honest, and also chiky and fun in an intelligent and subversive way. If you cant see that then in your minds violence is a divine error, not a human flaw.
I watched it yesterday and it was really good. The drama thriller, not your simple spy-story-popcorn movie. Very good cast doing an excellentob. This is a movie you have to pay attention to, otherwise you will lose plot details. This is not a simple spy- action movie. It’s a psychological spy thriller with nude scenes, explicit violence, for some surely difficult to digest.Only in the middle of the movie there is some weakness, the movie slows down and appears like a popcorn-spy movie, but it quickly turns onto its path of a serious thriller. And of course don’t forget to mention that the author of the original Nobile worked for the CIA, so, some poetic license granted, this man shirt he knows what he’s writing about. Ps This is an anti-hero story, so don’t be surprised if you don’t identify with the main character and if there is no relationship between the male and the female lead characters, both are just doing their jobs. This is an anti-hero story, so don’t be surprised if you don’t identify with the main characters and if there is no chemistry (in the eyes of the audience) between the male and the female lead characters, both are just doing their jobs. I saw it once and Shirley watch it again in order to get some plot details that I missed. This movie surprise me, at times it appeared to be popcorn movie, but it’s a hard spy thriller, low slow paced and interpreted by first-class actors. Just enjoy their performance, l watched it once and I am surely going to watch it again at the movies, not at home for the moment.
It is more likely that the people who are watching a TV show are already fans of it. That is why you should never base your decision on whether or not to watch a TV show based on the Rotten Tomatoes score.
Digonto Zahid They also review them different. Example shows like game of thrones and others are looked at more critically then something like Supergirl. Supergirland the flash shows like it are not suppose to make ya think to much mostly have good and bad so they do the job there suppose to if that makes any sense. lol
Later seasons of tv shows are usually only reviewed by critics who liked the preview seasons, so it skews the score. Most reviewers only watch the first season and usually the review for the season is only about the pilot.
The most interesting thing to me is the way that fortunes rise and fall for celebrities, for seemingly no fault of their own. In 2015, Taylor Swift was Queen of the World. And likewise J Law was adored by the media. In 2018, Taylor Swift is a bitch and J Law is overrated. They are doing their same shtick as before but people are acting like something's changed about them. But nothing really has, we as the audience just get bored easily. This movie is legit bad though.
What's your beef with Jennifer Lawrence exactly? I think she's pretty cool. I've never paid a dime to see her movies mind you, but I think she's an energized, sassy, upbeat, intelligent, articulate, scrupulously honest person. I just think she needs to start developing her own projects and writing her own scripts in order to get anywhere particularly compelling. The hacks writing dialog for her now just don't really cut it.
+Hito Indeed. Rounders has a bunch of little things that can be picked apart (like the fact that Teddy didn't know he had it at the beginning, since Mike could have had quads), but it simply works. There is an ocean of great acting, from the fantastic, over the top KGB from Malkovich, down to the subtle Famke Janssen role, and to little things like "Fuck me? FUCK YOU!" The drama is well constructed. There is tension. There are some good laughs. The transitions between scenes work well. It's a great movie. If they ever do a sequel, we have to see Knish actually play some hands.
Again how do we strengthen a character, how do we motivate than, how do we get the audience 's Short lazy Answer: victimize, rape her, beat Seriously I'm not saying don't write about sexual violence, just do it right that actually serves the plot and taps into the character and who they are. Not just for shock vaule or a dramatic short cut. And where they character doesn't end up just being another object. I've seen it done before , but some how writers to fall into old tropes that are all flash and trauma bur no substance
Exactly the problem I had with the latest game of thrones season. They literally gave Sansa a storyline that wasn't hers in the book just so they could rape her and make her a "strong female character." Ugh. The only depiction of male-on-female rape i've ever seen done well was in big little lies. Shot in order to maximize the violence and violation, not to exploit a naked woman's body. The character is then represented with respect and sympathy.
No, that's not the takeaway you're supposed to get from the sexual training and the torture scene. Those scenes exist in the movie to counterbalance the finale (although I will say that the movie doesn't do a perfect job of making the dramatic connection). She sets her uncle up for probably what will be horrible, horrible torture before certain death in the end. In light of what the movie shows us of the methods of the Russian govt, the fate that she gives her uncle is extremely evil. To offset that evil, we have to see why it's justified. We have to see what he did to her. I completely disagree with Christy when she wrote that the rape and torture was gratuitous. Those scenes set the stage for the retribution at the end. This is especially true of the brutality of the interrogation. When the audience sees the look on her uncle's face in the end, it's very convincingly innocent and scared and you have sympathy for that --- until you consider the totality of what he let happen to her. Nobody in my audience was like how could she do that to him --- and that's crucial and it's a direct effect of the the rape scene and the torture/interrogation. My complaint about this movie is actually different than yours. I liked it a lot, but it does smack of American propaganda. Metaphorically, the uncle represents the Russian govt (deft strategically, focused/driven to diabolically sharp degree. and indifferent). The CIA agent metaphorically represents America... and the propaganda part is that he is the exact opposite of the uncle: he's not nearly as strategically-minded ("clumsy" as they say; he is motivated by feelings, passions whether about beliefs or people); he's nowhere near as driven (because he won't make the kind of "coldhearted" sacrifices to himself and certainly not to others that the Russians are willing to do); and he cares. This is supposed to represent the ideological distinction between Russia and the United States. And when you read it that way (from an American filmmaker) it's jingoistic (and pretty bigoted if it weren't so absurdly exaggerated that it could be taken seriously). "They are heartless machines who would set their own family up for rape and death. In America, we believe in caring about people and we adhere to noble principles." The reality is that the CIA engages in the exact same spygame bullshit. This is propaganda not quite as appalling as Zero Dark Thirty (which was later revealed to be a CIA vehicle), but the timing shows a clear 'Murica! attitude that we don't need. Still, that message was subtle enough that it didn't appall me, so I gave it an A-. Fyi, not all field operatives (in the CIA or the intelligence agencies abroad) are trained in hand-to-hand combat. The badass ones that we're used to seeing in movies are few. Most operatives operate nonviolently using more cloak and little to no dagger. That's why the NOC list is so important. There are tons of them and they can't fight their way out if they're exposed. Women hold the psychological leverage because they've got the fuck card. It's not in the least bit remarkable (to anyone who isn't naive) that this leverage is a valuable resource for the state (any state, including America) and that governments have studied it, formalized the protocols to increase its effectiveness, and then incorporated it into training. It sounds like the proposition of a woman fucking for a living is appalling and that's why you don't like this movie. But the movie isn't making the statement that all women do so or that women ~should~ do so.
5 years late but completely agree. You know they would have complained if the abuse and manipulation D was subjected to by her uncle was merely implied, never shown, or even shown a bit less than what the movie actually showed, because they really wouldn't be able to understand her want for revenge or why the audience sure agree his punishment was justified.
I think my grandma read the book years ago..but she let the details about the ballerina being a spy seducer ...I know this is very irrelevant but I just realize that because of the Alonso recap of the plot
Not sure when I've seen a more inept review. Not that this was a great movie by any means, but the panel seem to have missed or misinterpreted almost every point. (They're right that the training phase was poorly handled, and sometimes left one wondering how she was able to do certain things). Overall consensus of this panel is very harsh and simplistic.
This is the first video I saw you guys talk about a movie. I hope you would watch it once more, because you were criticising scenes that from isolated view looked like what you were thinking it to be, but in truth with the context of previous scenes you might find out that the rape attempt was establishing her full commitment to the practice of sparrow. Also I don't believe that she was in love with the guy, because she learned at the start that he loves women and pays them from time to time, but afterwards he feels guilty. This just shows that the sex they had was just her reassuring of his support (if you remember he told her that the "mole" that he was covering is a true friend so why not be for him even more) At least I am glad that I saw your video, because your reviews have the quality of ranting in a pub with friends.
Red Sparrow was a very good movie. I enjoyed it. I thought it was fascinating, especially the training the Red Sparrows received. I didn't know how it was going to end or how she was going to get out of her situation. Good movie. I'd give it an 8 or 8.5.
Caitie Regan they knew they had a bad movie on their hands and didn't know how to market it until they some marketing executive mentioned it looked like that scene in Age of Ultron with Russian ballet flashback. So they just did what time could and garnered interest.
In movies Hollywood is very good at making superhero spies (Mission Impossibke, Bourne, Atomic Blonde). But generally, whenever they try to do anything else, they fail. The brits do great and intelligent SPY films. This seems like a failed attempt at mixing both. I will see it anyway since I like this genre, both the good and the bad.
Every movie doesn't have to be a vehicle for feminist theory or the me-too movement. Just as every film dealing with a battle or war in general, doesn't have to be anti war.
Please stop getting offended for other people. Lawrence has been plenty outspoken, if she had any issue whatsoever with the movie she'd just say it. Like she did with X-Men, or that movie with Chris Pratt that I'm forgetting the name of. If she doesn't give a shit about the nudity then why should anyone get offended on her behalf? I really wish Ben would have seen the movie as I'm sure he would have chimed in like during the Wolf of Wall Street review where he had that great bit about not giving a shit about people being offended for the rest of time.
I kinda liked it. It wasn't that bad. Happy I didn't skip it with all the bad reviews. But there's nothing spectacular either. If you're into spy movies, there's better.
If I want to see a story about female empowerment involving Charlize Theron, I think I'll just watch Fury Road for a third time. Not a fan of the peroxide blonde hair she's sporting, and it doesn't look to be a sober or serious affair.
I would rather see a film about all those Russian hackers and trolls in one room posting on USA-fb and USA-political sites. Jennifer Lawrence would also be the lead in this film. That element, plus the "extra-curricular" training which plays such a large part of Red Sparrow, would most likely get more people into tech and science fields...I am only partially joking.
Francis Lawrence: "Hey Kevin Feige. This is Francis Lawrence, you know i did the one good Hunger Games movie and the 2 awfull ones" Kevin Feige: "Yes, hi?" Francis Lawrence : "I would really love to make a Black Widow movie, but i want Jennifer Lawrence to play the lead, how does that sound?" Kevin Feige: "what? No? First of all Jennifer Lawrence plays Mystiqe in the X-men universe. And eventhough she's an awfull Mystiqe, she is still there. Second, Scarlet Johansen is Black Widow in the MCU and she is doing an awesome job. We all wanna see a Black Widow, but it's gotta be with Scarlet in the lead. Francis Lawrence: "Well fuck you Mr. Marvel i'll just go do my own Black Widow movie with Jennifer Lawrence, but i'll call it something else so you can't sue me."And that's how Red Sparrow happend. Now can we please get the REAL Black Widow movie.
If you did a bit of background research, you'd see that this movie is based on a book of the same name by a former CIA operative. So your scenario enactment fantasy does not correspond to reality, I am sorry to inform you.
I swear that this is a remake of a TV version that I saw in the eighties or maybe late seventies. I think Sally Kellerman was the 'whore school' lady. I want to say that Linda Hamilton was the lead, but I'm not sure. Anyhow, this film is clearly not original in any way. Too bad.
This movie is well directed. Its shot well and the screenplay is tight. Unfortunately the "logic" is really weak. I mean for a movie that has such a serious subject and tone, the actual plot is more than a stretch. It does have interesting elements but there just was too much contrivance and weak logic to justify the plot. The movie tries to balance the struggles or the exploitation of the lead with espionage thriller and fails on both counts. Agreed it was a tough plot but there could be no loose ends, certainly not as loose as the movie had. Also the acting is poor. Jennifer Lawrence is really ordinary in the role. Neither is she able to display the emotional anguish or manipulative deception of her character. And frankly nobody is really convincing. While you will be able to sit through Red Sparrow because the plot has interesting base, and the movie is well directed technically, its a poor effort on both the counts of drama and substance which are critical for a movie of this type. I give this a 5. For all the style and length and the intense subject its pretty hollow on the inside. Needed a better lead, acting and a much smarter plot.
Yeah well, it wasn't the Black Widow solo film (Origin Story that shows she lied to Bruce) and There's always 'The Americans' just so long as you don't hold the utterly boring and nearly terminal 4th (?) season against it. I stopped watching halfway through and just read the recaps. Hopefully the next and final season raises the tension levels again (who next gets to become a non soggy piece of travel luggage, hmm?)
Bit too negative, the film was better than they make out and best of all atypical for hollywood. Unsurprisingly the critics are all being PC in their fear of the great sexual persecution. 4/5
Like the picture i have as my profile I think if you all face some life and death situations you probably get get this movie not to say the movie was great or the best it was a long and some parts were unappealing what you been through life or death situation but once you go to life and death situation like I did you might even become a monster all lost your sanity
+ian Lee - I hate the term Jlaw. But, Jennifer can act - check out The Poker Game & Winter's Bone. However, she has mostly been choosing bad scripts in the years since then.
4 dweebs out grunting each other at "how cute can I be" is not anything------ and certainly not a movie review. This movie was well above average compared to the low bar the movie production-lines have stamped out for the last year
Looks like most “reviewers” have not even read the first book let alone the trilogy which expands on the first book. It also sounds like the movie cut corners on covering the first aspect of Dominica’s tradecraft training. Rather jumping to the more salacious Sparrow School. Too bad. The two main characters do indeed dance around each other with a singular moment of sexual contact that seemed underwhelming... but that is the beauty of the plot... it’s not CANNED and doesn’t follow the usual OBVIOUS Hollywood model. I haven’t seen the film yet but I suspect it will be followed by two sequels Palace of Treason and The Kremlin Candidate both of which expand further on the plot created in the first book. Just a guess. I was a bit disappointed i the first book sighting a lot of the same issues many reviews have sighted... but after having read the second book it’s clear why. Unfortunately, these reviewers fail miserably in offering up any further details that might better edify the trilogy. I GIVE THIS REVIEW ONLY ONE STAR.
Just saw this film. Thought it was a good solid spy thriller. And very female empowering really. Every corner she turns there's a man there waiting to beat her down, and she gets back up and keeps fighting. It's a film about Russia and how cold, cynical and exploitive of people they can be. How all governments can be.
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@@hj8750I know right , it’s so hilarious.
It’s a mediocre movie , unrealistic ridiculous woman power fantasy
@@curtiszyr Unlike male power fantasy movies which are great? She wins by using her head and somehow that's wrong too. Are you gay and only want men in your films?
@@curtiszyr Yeah not like those Jason Statham film. Those are very realistic and that's why you fantasize being him? With him? Which one is it.
She literally wins by using her head. You should try doing the same
Movie is way better than what they're making it out to be. Lawrence's character also shows a level of strength, intelligence, and resolve you just don't find very often. Didn't feel like a long movie either. And while I like Atomic Blonde it's the polar opposite to this. Don't expect action packed, popcorn fun with neon lights. This is a cold war drama with a far more realistic tone.
nice to hear a dissenting voice for once. Everyone here is just dogpiling like a bunch of jealous bitches.
I just saw it and I agree.
Toukon4ever and this movie actually had a smart plot. I liked atomic blonde but I couldn’t follow shit that was happening.
I Bought the CIA Red Sparrow awkward relationship. He knew she was a Russian spy trying to play him, she was always playing both sides. These critics either didn't pay attention, or they're just giving bad information. It was the Uncle who put her in the situation to be a Red Sparrow. He saw potential in her, That Was The Whole Point of the movie. Jennifer Lawrence's character is the bad ass her uncle thought she was, and in the end she killed him. Critics are lazy.
michaelthemovieman just because a movie contains rape does not make it bad
Red Sparrow was good--What the Flick sucks. If WTF dislikes a movie, then I'm bound to watch it. F these reviews.
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I watched the movie. I believe the movie desrves more credit than what they are talking.
oh thank god christie taking her rightly place at the head of the table again 👏🏻🙌🏼
Tyler Agreed! It’s way too weird with her anywhere else.
The artistic merits notwithstanding, *the main issue with this film is that it is a xenophobic propaganda smear.* Nothing like what is depicted was really happening, so the film is just exploiting the lowest parts of the human brain that need stimulus to hate blacks, Jews, gays, Russians -- whoever the "bad" guys at the moment.
Christy with a Y.
@@StrangerHappened Or you could just see it as a fun movie.
I think it was a realy good movie , i had fun watching it and the cast was really good .
To all the people saying this is to graphic film, come on look at casino, good fellas, pulp fiction, and when Madonna went on stage Looking sexy it was frowned apon at the time, now she's respected as a legend. I predict the same for Jennifer Lawrence. Another bold daring role, looking fantastic and has an intense thriller film to her bow and under her belt. And everyone's talking about it. Not boring or predictable. It was supposed to be shocking this film and it's being criticised for that?
This movie was good ! It was more psychological than action driven and I like that
Regarding the floppy disk..Francis Lawrence address this “It’s actually something that is used a fair amount in places like the DOD and CIA,” Lawrence tells Inverse. “They don’t want important information to be on super small storage devices. Those are easy to hide. If you have important information you want them on something a bit bulky, maybe even a bit outdated that you need to have special drives.” As it turns out, old tech makes great security. “It’s an extra layer of protection,” Lawrence adds.
If you haven’t already, just watch The Americans. Better done, better storylines and just plan fantastic. Also, Jennifer Lawrence is no Kerri Russel.
if The Americans nails this last season it'll be the greatest show of all time
Yep. The Americans with the final season could become one of the great t.v. series ever...Red Sparrow sounds like a Roger Corman version of The Americans with a big budget.
and Kerri Russel is no Keri Russell. I wonder about the judgement and taste of people who make such careless spelling mistakes of their supposedly favorite people.
I just have to ask, do the reviewers know what a "Sparrow" or "Swallow" were in real life?
Because they were a thing, they were both male and female, and they were used against foreign targets in the Soviet Union, Europe, Asia and the USA.
Among the targets was the French Ambassador to the Soviet Union and his wife.
Christy was Soooo unimpressed with Ben and Matt’s jokes at 00:15. LMAOO I stan forever.
I saw the movie. I liked it. It has a pretty good story. It has some flaws, but overall for me it is a 7-8 rating.
Now, judging the recent reviews these guys gave, it is clear to me that iq drops as you get older. It's complete bonkers to give a well-rounded movie with good performances a 3.4 and give a 10 to a mediocre movie like All about me.
Please watch the movie, and tell me they are not as dumb as they look.
again ben is here without watching it
Moneybags Ben with the family inheritence is likely a major shareholder in The Young Turks network, so that gives him the clout to hang around regardless of that. That would be my guess anyway.
I would have been disappointed if it were any different.
you're spot on! he co-founded Young Turks and "What the Flick" is one of their spinoff shows.
Aren't they all supposed to watch it? Otherwise, why be there? This is why Ben was a flop on At the Movies with the other asshole Ben.
sha11235 I actually think he's a decent critic but I think he's above that now. But I can't stand how Christy Lemiere has kind of dumbed down her reviews since the early 2000's with all the hip slang and millennial speak! Don't get me started on the fifteen year old girl that's in the body of Alonso Duralde! If he adds one more y to a word that should be left alone I'm gonna pop a blood vessel! The word is action Alonso! There's no such term as action(y) films, just like freaking sciency! What happened to, scientific?
Not surprised not everyone likes this movie - it's not trying to be a pure action movie or cold war thriller. It's like a groady, cynical, subversive Paul Verhoeven-in-the-'80's throwback. It's not as good as classic Verhoeven but I actually enjoyed it quite a bit; didn't find it dull at all.
You sent me to horse 🐎 school!😂😭
There is a name for linguistic quirks like that, but I can't think of the label. Another one is "neck store"... which is the home next to yours.
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Ever seen the famous "Four Candles" sketch? (If not look it up.)
Never saw that before. Pretty good. Thanks for the recommendation.
Some people would argue that she smiles like one.
I still am going to see it. It looks interesting and I like Lawrence. Plus the way they shit on it just makes me want to see it more.
Jennifer Lawrence went on one of the late night shows recently and said (I'm paraphrasing here) that her nude scenes were a way for her to own her nudity after what happened with the nude photos of her that were released a few years ago. My response to her - not that she or anyone else is particularly looking for a response - would be to say the following:
Own it. Don't own it. Do whatever you want, and think whatever you want about it, but put it behind you. The only way you'll ever be able to take away its power over you is to simply move on and don't allow it to control your actions. I know this is an over-simplification of the issue, and nothing can take away the pain that was caused to you by the people responsible for leaking the photos, but try to focus on your art and simply let everything else fade into the background. Be nude, don't be nude, do whatever you want. Whatever choices you make in the future, do it because it's what you want to do, or because it's what your art demands, or really for any reason you want; but, don't do it because of anything those creeps did to you, because that's what gives them power.
Jennifer Lawrence is an exceptional actress who deserves much better movie roles than a lot of the dreck she's been in over the years.
So your advice to her is 'do whatever you want'. I think that's exactly what she was already doing. I mean, how could she not.
Deserves better roles? She has her pick! And she is an overrated actress which has become more and more obvious in recent years. I think Hollywood is catching on. I used to be a huge fan but you can tell by the trailer, her acting really isn't much to write home about.
And she won the Oscar for Best Actress six years ago and then got two more nods. She is throwing away her career.
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I totally agree with your analysis that she should “be nude” much much more often!!
I liked it but to each their own I guess.
I just watched it and amazed how people are claiming the film sucked
I enjoyed it too. They were a bit too harsh on this movie.
I kindof enjoyed this. It was corny and raunchy and exploits Lawrence but it was fun to watch. I also think this movie was a subtle way to convince the citizenry that russia and trump by extension cant be trusted. Hollywood is always playing political tricks and its getting old.
Spot on! I've just watched it and come looking for reviews.. yes apparently the Russian secret service is uniquely unscrupulous. Western governments would never engineer compro-mat or torture anyone! It is a fun movie despite/because of such nonsense...
Don't let the bad reviews of the film prevent you from reading the book its pretty damn good actually
Don't let the bad reviews of the film prevent you from watching it its pretty damn good actually
The whole intro with the stereotypical Russian accents had me rolling, I love when you guys rip things apart.
Poor old Jeremy Irons, first those terrible DC movies and now this.
TimeLimey
BvS is great
lol you forgot Assassins Creed too
He didn't have to take a paycheck for this. It was his decision. If you want to see him in a great role in a great film, check out Margin Call, about the 2008 financial meltdown.
Jeremy Irons was good in this. BVS sucks but I like his take on Alfred. He does need bigger roles though.
guys, you are taking the whole social justice warrior thing way to ourthwere. RED SPARROW IS very conscious of itself, very interesting, honest, and also chiky and fun in an intelligent and subversive way. If you cant see that then in your minds violence is a divine error, not a human flaw.
I watched it yesterday and it was really good. The drama thriller, not your simple spy-story-popcorn movie. Very good cast doing an excellentob. This is a movie you have to pay attention to, otherwise you will lose plot details. This is not a simple spy- action movie. It’s a psychological spy thriller with nude scenes, explicit violence, for some surely difficult to digest.Only in the middle of the movie there is some weakness, the movie slows down and appears like a popcorn-spy movie, but it quickly turns onto its path of a serious thriller. And of course don’t forget to mention that the author of the original Nobile worked for the CIA, so, some poetic license granted, this man shirt he knows what he’s writing about. Ps This is an anti-hero story, so don’t be surprised if you don’t identify with the main character and if there is no relationship between the male and the female lead characters, both are just doing their jobs. This is an anti-hero story, so don’t be surprised if you don’t identify with the main characters and if there is no chemistry (in the eyes of the audience) between the male and the female lead characters, both are just doing their jobs. I saw it once and Shirley watch it again in order to get some plot details that I missed. This movie surprise me, at times it appeared to be popcorn movie, but it’s a hard spy thriller, low slow paced and interpreted by first-class actors. Just enjoy their performance, l watched it once and I am surely going to watch it again at the movies, not at home for the moment.
Is it me or does it seem like critics are a lot easier on TV series. Supergirl girl has a 100 percent
It is more likely that the people who are watching a TV show are already fans of it. That is why you should never base your decision on whether or not to watch a TV show based on the Rotten Tomatoes score.
Cause supergirl is awesome
Digonto Zahid They also review them different. Example shows like game of thrones and others are looked at more critically then something like Supergirl. Supergirland the flash shows like it are not suppose to make ya think to much mostly have good and bad so they do the job there suppose to if that makes any sense. lol
Later seasons of tv shows are usually only reviewed by critics who liked the preview seasons, so it skews the score. Most reviewers only watch the first season and usually the review for the season is only about the pilot.
It's a self-selecting group. Nobody is going to sit down and watch ten episodes of a series they aren't enjoying.
it took me a few minutes to figure out you weren't saying horse school. i just didnt know why a Russian spy would need to go to horse school. ;-)
Ben likes an Eastern European accent. What other accents do you like, Ben? :D
The description is wrong: Justin Haythe wrote the movie, did not direct it. Francis Lawrence is the director.
Jennifer Lawrence lost me after her Phantom Thread comments
The most interesting thing to me is the way that fortunes rise and fall for celebrities, for seemingly no fault of their own. In 2015, Taylor Swift was Queen of the World. And likewise J Law was adored by the media. In 2018, Taylor Swift is a bitch and J Law is overrated. They are doing their same shtick as before but people are acting like something's changed about them. But nothing really has, we as the audience just get bored easily. This movie is legit bad though.
The rapper, don't you know?
+ MobiusCoin I have to admit, for a second there I thought you were talking about Jude Law. No, I don't get out much :(
great movie, what's wrong with them? they should be objective about the movies they review.
There will always be some subjective factor at play.
am I the only one that actually enjoyed this movie ? DAMN
Clearly not.
Got excited when I saw Ben, but 10 seconds later I thought to myself, "I bet he didn't even see this."
Rounders is SO underrated.
Check!
Actually, I don't think it is a very good movie. It is also pretty stupid about poker.
and why is that Hito, what do you like about it so much?
What's your beef with Jennifer Lawrence exactly? I think she's pretty cool. I've never paid a dime to see her movies mind you, but I think she's an energized, sassy, upbeat, intelligent, articulate, scrupulously honest person. I just think she needs to start developing her own projects and writing her own scripts in order to get anywhere particularly compelling. The hacks writing dialog for her now just don't really cut it.
+Hito
Indeed. Rounders has a bunch of little things that can be picked apart (like the fact that Teddy didn't know he had it at the beginning, since Mike could have had quads), but it simply works. There is an ocean of great acting, from the fantastic, over the top KGB from Malkovich, down to the subtle Famke Janssen role, and to little things like "Fuck me? FUCK YOU!" The drama is well constructed. There is tension. There are some good laughs. The transitions between scenes work well. It's a great movie. If they ever do a sequel, we have to see Knish actually play some hands.
Again how do we strengthen a character, how do we motivate than, how do we get the audience 's
Short lazy Answer: victimize, rape her, beat
Seriously I'm not saying don't write about sexual violence, just do it right that actually serves the plot and taps into the character and who they are. Not just for shock vaule or a dramatic short cut. And where they character doesn't end up just being another object. I've seen it done before , but some how writers to fall into old tropes that are all flash and trauma bur no substance
Exactly the problem I had with the latest game of thrones season. They literally gave Sansa a storyline that wasn't hers in the book just so they could rape her and make her a "strong female character." Ugh. The only depiction of male-on-female rape i've ever seen done well was in big little lies. Shot in order to maximize the violence and violation, not to exploit a naked woman's body. The character is then represented with respect and sympathy.
Game of Thrones is trash. If you watch it, so are you.
Ladygothii12 That's the complete opposite of what this movie is.
No, that's not the takeaway you're supposed to get from the sexual training and the torture scene. Those scenes exist in the movie to counterbalance the finale (although I will say that the movie doesn't do a perfect job of making the dramatic connection). She sets her uncle up for probably what will be horrible, horrible torture before certain death in the end. In light of what the movie shows us of the methods of the Russian govt, the fate that she gives her uncle is extremely evil. To offset that evil, we have to see why it's justified. We have to see what he did to her. I completely disagree with Christy when she wrote that the rape and torture was gratuitous. Those scenes set the stage for the retribution at the end. This is especially true of the brutality of the interrogation. When the audience sees the look on her uncle's face in the end, it's very convincingly innocent and scared and you have sympathy for that --- until you consider the totality of what he let happen to her. Nobody in my audience was like how could she do that to him --- and that's crucial and it's a direct effect of the the rape scene and the torture/interrogation.
My complaint about this movie is actually different than yours. I liked it a lot, but it does smack of American propaganda. Metaphorically, the uncle represents the Russian govt (deft strategically, focused/driven to diabolically sharp degree. and indifferent). The CIA agent metaphorically represents America... and the propaganda part is that he is the exact opposite of the uncle: he's not nearly as strategically-minded ("clumsy" as they say; he is motivated by feelings, passions whether about beliefs or people); he's nowhere near as driven (because he won't make the kind of "coldhearted" sacrifices to himself and certainly not to others that the Russians are willing to do); and he cares. This is supposed to represent the ideological distinction between Russia and the United States. And when you read it that way (from an American filmmaker) it's jingoistic (and pretty bigoted if it weren't so absurdly exaggerated that it could be taken seriously). "They are heartless machines who would set their own family up for rape and death. In America, we believe in caring about people and we adhere to noble principles." The reality is that the CIA engages in the exact same spygame bullshit. This is propaganda not quite as appalling as Zero Dark Thirty (which was later revealed to be a CIA vehicle), but the timing shows a clear 'Murica! attitude that we don't need.
Still, that message was subtle enough that it didn't appall me, so I gave it an A-.
Fyi, not all field operatives (in the CIA or the intelligence agencies abroad) are trained in hand-to-hand combat. The badass ones that we're used to seeing in movies are few. Most operatives operate nonviolently using more cloak and little to no dagger. That's why the NOC list is so important. There are tons of them and they can't fight their way out if they're exposed.
Women hold the psychological leverage because they've got the fuck card. It's not in the least bit remarkable (to anyone who isn't naive) that this leverage is a valuable resource for the state (any state, including America) and that governments have studied it, formalized the protocols to increase its effectiveness, and then incorporated it into training. It sounds like the proposition of a woman fucking for a living is appalling and that's why you don't like this movie. But the movie isn't making the statement that all women do so or that women ~should~ do so.
5 years late but completely agree. You know they would have complained if the abuse and manipulation D was subjected to by her uncle was merely implied, never shown, or even shown a bit less than what the movie actually showed, because they really wouldn't be able to understand her want for revenge or why the audience sure agree his punishment was justified.
You got 1 like after all this😂
Your show notes say the director is Justin Haythe. Who the hell is that? Francis Lawrence is the director, yes?
I think my grandma read the book years ago..but she let the details about the ballerina being a spy seducer ...I know this is very irrelevant but I just realize that because of the Alonso recap of the plot
Not sure when I've seen a more inept review. Not that this was a great movie by any means, but the panel seem to have missed or misinterpreted almost every point. (They're right that the training phase was poorly handled, and sometimes left one wondering how she was able to do certain things). Overall consensus of this panel is very harsh and simplistic.
This is the first video I saw you guys talk about a movie. I hope you would watch it once more, because you were criticising scenes that from isolated view looked like what you were thinking it to be, but in truth with the context of previous scenes you might find out that the rape attempt was establishing her full commitment to the practice of sparrow. Also I don't believe that she was in love with the guy, because she learned at the start that he loves women and pays them from time to time, but afterwards he feels guilty. This just shows that the sex they had was just her reassuring of his support (if you remember he told her that the "mole" that he was covering is a true friend so why not be for him even more)
At least I am glad that I saw your video, because your reviews have the quality of ranting in a pub with friends.
Guess I’m waiting for the HBO release of this movie. But what was that about shaving ones balls without foam and a straight razor?? Amazing lol
Red Sparrow was a very good movie. I enjoyed it. I thought it was fascinating, especially the training the Red Sparrows received. I didn't know how it was going to end or how she was going to get out of her situation. Good movie. I'd give it an 8 or 8.5.
7 for me.
Please do reviews of Homeland. At least like one video for 4 episodes. Which is kinda one big plot arc.
It was designed to look like what a Black Widow the movie would be to trick audiences into seeing it? That is what is sounds like to me.
nickmoney I know I’m kind of waiting for the lawsuits, this is straight up theft
Caitie Regan they knew they had a bad movie on their hands and didn't know how to market it until they some marketing executive mentioned it looked like that scene in Age of Ultron with Russian ballet flashback. So they just did what time could and garnered interest.
Who would even pay to see a Black Widow movie anyway? Scarlett is so not sexy in that role.
Chris Wright Lol maybe it has nothing to do with her sex appeal???!!?
In movies Hollywood is very good at making superhero spies (Mission Impossibke, Bourne, Atomic Blonde). But generally, whenever they try to do anything else, they fail. The brits do great and intelligent SPY films. This seems like a failed attempt at mixing both. I will see it anyway since I like this genre, both the good and the bad.
Most Bond movies are emphatiicaly not "great" or "intelligent". GoldenEye is about the only one that really works for me, from start to finish.
This review says next to nothing about the film but reveals a lot about the critics' IQ.
Every movie doesn't have to be a vehicle for feminist theory or the me-too movement. Just as every film dealing with a battle or war in general, doesn't have to be anti war.
Christy drinking out of a mug? That's not avant-garde enough for her.
It's cooler in LA this week so she needs her hot tea to stay cozy. If that's okay with you Manny.
Chris Wright It's not, but thank you for taking the time out to ask how I'm feeling.
Didn't she drink out of a fish bowl once?
“Don’t put metal in the science oven.”
So if What The Flick likes a movie, I hate it. If they hate a movie I like. I guess they're indirectly serving a purpose.
Please stop getting offended for other people. Lawrence has been plenty outspoken, if she had any issue whatsoever with the movie she'd just say it. Like she did with X-Men, or that movie with Chris Pratt that I'm forgetting the name of. If she doesn't give a shit about the nudity then why should anyone get offended on her behalf? I really wish Ben would have seen the movie as I'm sure he would have chimed in like during the Wolf of Wall Street review where he had that great bit about not giving a shit about people being offended for the rest of time.
At first I thought they said "horse school" and I was so confused.
Well there is certainly riding involved in both activities.
You say it’s that bad? I’m going to watch it here in Italy today or tomorrow…
I like these guy but boy do they love to exaggerate when it comes to any film they're not fond of.
they basically complain about stupid things and saying what is awesome in the movie in negative context.
Start doing the Homeland reviews again! I miss them!
i miss you guys :(
Dorin322 you can watch their new channel Breakfast All Day
Yes, please bring back Homeland recaps with Ben and Alonso!
I live for these bad reviews
"Peee-ay that mee-an. Pay him his Mun-ee!" - Rounders was excellent
It's "Pie heem. Pie det meeyan heez mahnee."
I kinda liked it. It wasn't that bad. Happy I didn't skip it with all the bad reviews. But there's nothing spectacular either. If you're into spy movies, there's better.
Sure there're better ones, but you could do much worse than this.
I may do an "uh" supercut of this video.
"A real film for adults" - Jeff Sneider
If I want to see a story about female empowerment involving Charlize Theron, I think I'll just watch Fury Road for a third time. Not a fan of the peroxide blonde hair she's sporting, and it doesn't look to be a sober or serious affair.
Oh! The hate, the hate... I thought it was a pretty bad movie. But not a horrible one.
I would rather see a film about all those Russian hackers and trolls in one room posting on USA-fb and USA-political sites. Jennifer Lawrence would also be the lead in this film. That element, plus the "extra-curricular" training which plays such a large part of Red Sparrow, would most likely get more people into tech and science fields...I am only partially joking.
if Ben didn't come from a famous family, he would have been fired already! he seems to watch fewer movies than any other critic!
I enjoyed this so much more that Atomic Blonde. that films was trying so hard to be edgy and hip, felt like it was tick boxing.
Francis Lawrence: "Hey Kevin Feige. This is Francis Lawrence, you know i did the one good Hunger Games movie and the 2 awfull ones"
Kevin Feige: "Yes, hi?"
Francis Lawrence : "I would really love to make a Black Widow movie, but i want Jennifer Lawrence to play the lead, how does that sound?"
Kevin Feige: "what? No? First of all Jennifer Lawrence plays Mystiqe in the X-men universe. And eventhough she's an awfull Mystiqe, she is still there. Second, Scarlet Johansen is Black Widow in the MCU and she is doing an awesome job. We all wanna see a Black Widow, but it's gotta be with Scarlet in the lead.
Francis Lawrence: "Well fuck you Mr. Marvel i'll just go do my own Black Widow movie with Jennifer Lawrence, but i'll call it something else so you can't sue me."And that's how Red Sparrow happend. Now can we please get the REAL Black Widow movie.
Funkmaster K L
If you did a bit of background research, you'd see that this movie is based on a book of the same name by a former CIA operative. So your scenario enactment fantasy does not correspond to reality, I am sorry to inform you.
It's like I'm in the room. 🙄
I swear that this is a remake of a TV version that I saw in the eighties or maybe late seventies. I think Sally Kellerman was the 'whore school' lady. I want to say that Linda Hamilton was the lead, but I'm not sure. Anyhow, this film is clearly not original in any way. Too bad.
This movie is well directed. Its shot well and the screenplay is tight. Unfortunately the "logic" is really weak. I mean for a movie that has such a serious subject and tone, the actual plot is more than a stretch. It does have interesting elements but there just was too much contrivance and weak logic to justify the plot. The movie tries to balance the struggles or the exploitation of the lead with espionage thriller and fails on both counts. Agreed it was a tough plot but there could be no loose ends, certainly not as loose as the movie had.
Also the acting is poor. Jennifer Lawrence is really ordinary in the role. Neither is she able to display the emotional anguish or manipulative deception of her character. And frankly nobody is really convincing.
While you will be able to sit through Red Sparrow because the plot has interesting base, and the movie is well directed technically, its a poor effort on both the counts of drama and substance which are critical for a movie of this type.
I give this a 5. For all the style and length and the intense subject its pretty hollow on the inside.
Needed a better lead, acting and a much smarter plot.
Homeland reviews please!
Yeah well, it wasn't the Black Widow solo film (Origin Story that shows she lied to Bruce) and There's always 'The Americans' just so long as you don't hold the utterly boring and nearly terminal 4th (?) season against it. I stopped watching halfway through and just read the recaps. Hopefully the next and final season raises the tension levels again (who next gets to become a non soggy piece of travel luggage, hmm?)
if its present day, then it cannot be kgb
From MOCKING BIRD to RED SPARROW.
I very much respect the panels opinions but I still can’t wait to see this movie.
It's not a terrible movie. It's disturbing and it's the greatest. But it's okay.
(...) *isn't* the greatest (...)
why do people go to R rated movies if there to weak to handle it like it will have swearing sex and blood
Bit too negative, the film was better than they make out and best of all atypical for hollywood. Unsurprisingly the critics are all being PC in their fear of the great sexual persecution. 4/5
Way too long, just saw the dvd. I miss you guys. Too bad you went to the pay too much for content channel.
I'm not sure I really understand your last sentence.
Like the picture i have as my profile I think if you all face some life and death situations you probably get get this movie not to say the movie was great or the best it was a long and some parts were unappealing what you been through life or death situation but once you go to life and death situation like I did you might even become a monster all lost your sanity
Before you all start why so serious
Jlaw is overrated and unable to give a believable performance imo
Even in Mother! ?
+ian Lee - I hate the term Jlaw. But, Jennifer can act - check out The Poker Game & Winter's Bone. However, she has mostly been choosing bad scripts in the years since then.
Ok hipster duffus.
Except this movie is bad not due to her it just is s bad movie
She's not overrated. She's a great actress. I feel like people hop on these bandwagon hate trains for some reason. Sheep.
4 dweebs out grunting each other at "how cute can I be" is not anything------ and certainly not a movie review. This movie was well above average compared to the low bar the movie production-lines have stamped out for the last year
Haven't seen the movie but the book is pretty much MEH.
Uncle Benjen! :)
This movie is great! Honestly watch it for yourself. It's good.
ugh u guys just spoiled the movie for me in the first two minutes of the review. thanks alot.
meanwhile you spoil the English language every time you touch a keyboard.
Decent movie. Not sure about the replay value though (save for certain scenes - if you catch my drift).
Two gay guys and a woman are telling me this movie is bad because JLaw gets naked alot 🤔
Umm, one gay guy. Matt and Ben are straight.
I guess they didn't like it.
Love Lawrence & Lawrence. Will watch.
LET BEN AND CHRISTY SPEAK!!!!!!! (mini LOL)
The Americans does it better.
Dam i kind of liked it everybody has there opinion though.
The floppy disks are part of the book, based on real events and their use is explained. Do some research people.
Countfoscolikesmice nobody TAN MATANDO UN WEON
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Looks like most “reviewers” have not even read the first book let alone the trilogy which expands on the first book. It also sounds like the movie cut corners on covering the first aspect of Dominica’s tradecraft training. Rather jumping to the more salacious Sparrow School. Too bad. The two main characters do indeed dance around each other with a singular moment of sexual contact that seemed underwhelming... but that is the beauty of the plot... it’s not CANNED and doesn’t follow the usual OBVIOUS Hollywood model. I haven’t seen the film yet but I suspect it will be followed by two sequels Palace of Treason and The Kremlin Candidate both of which expand further on the plot created in the first book. Just a guess. I was a bit disappointed i the first book sighting a lot of the same issues many reviews have sighted... but after having read the second book it’s clear why. Unfortunately, these reviewers fail miserably in offering up any further details that might better edify the trilogy. I GIVE THIS REVIEW ONLY ONE STAR.
I can't wait to see what Harvey Weinstein had under his desk.
This movie was awsome.
This movie might suck but can we stop with "the current climate" being a reason for it to suck? Judge it own its own merits.