Ah, James, I so look towards to seeing your videos. I love the detail that you give to us, along with the obvious enjoyment that you get from being involved with high end audio. I like that you seem to have the same learning curve that we all do with a new piece of equipment. Please keep posting, you're a joy to watch and you are a great ambassador for Soundline.
@9:40 It adjusts the what? … LOL . This video delivered the exact answer to a question I’ve had. No other videos described if the true play feature is actually worth it or a marketing ploy. Thank you!
Hi there, Loved how detailed your video was. I did not get bored and watched it 'til the end 😁 I now was able to understand much better how the architectural sono speakers are to be configured. I recently purchased a home with built-in architectural sono speakers but I wasn't sure how to connect them. At first, like many others I thought the speakers were wireless or bluetooth. Womp womp- (bummer). There's about 5 or 6 zones, can I use any other AMP or is it necessary to use the Sonos AMP?
I'm just about to pull the trigger on that install myself but I've already decided to buy ceilings anyway. Im just struggling to understand the how deep these speakers are. The website gives a depth but also gives a length.....what is the length of a speaker?
I hate in ceiling speakers for suround sound there great for room audio 2.0 . Floor standing or book shelf or inwall just sounds so much better thats my opinion .
Interesting, because all the manuals and specifications I've read on speakers including Sonance the manufacturer of these speakers, uses the Term "Impedance". See specs on this page: www.sonance.com/in-wall-in-ceiling/visual-performance/medium-round-square
Tommy is correct, your multimeter only measures resistance which is a DC measure. Impedance varies based on the frequency of an AC source. itstillworks.com/measure-speaker-impedance-2931.html. Appreciate the review!
Good job. I am confused buying them or something bigger/better for my basement entertainment bar area. We would like to get multiple in ceiling speakers which can do good amount of bass for parties as well. Sounds like this may not be a good fit. Thanks
Hi, nice system. Do you know if those ceiling speakers can integrate to a different home theatre system? Also, what’s the brand/make of your ipad case? It looks so sleek and does it comes with a stand? Many thanks.
There are many options out there for in ceiling sound systems, non of them sound as good as pair of floor or bookshelf speakers of course but there are many options. so the Sonos AMP isn't a MUST HAVE, its just a good option to look into.
How is the bass, with only the ceiling speakers? Im looking to get either 2-3 ceiling speakers (Any brand with sonos amp), or a set of sonos one's or maybe a play:5, what would you choose for a medium size kitchen? Would like to get a decent bass :)
Thanks for the video, looking for some advice, would you recommend just going for the sonance speakers instead of the sonos-sonance ones, and if so what is the equivalent sonance speaker? Is it much cheaper?
If you're using a sonos amp, go for the Sonos speakers because it allows you to use the trueplay tuning function. If any other amp, just go for Sonance.
Are you testing the Sonance C6R or the Sonos Architectural Speakers as there is about a the Sonos Architectural speakers cost about $450 more per pair??
The fact that that little amp can drive 6 speakers down to a 2.4 ohms is pretty amazing. I would imagine the amp would be cranking out quite a bit of power at that low of a rating. Could you please share where you heard that the Amp would handle that load? Only documentation that I can find show stable to 4 ohm (250 Watt).
www.sonos.com/en-nz/shop/ceiling-speaker-pair.html On this page down under the FAQs it says one amp can handle up to three pairs of speakers. But they have to be the Sonos ones.
Hey man I don’t know if you’re the owner or the mind set behind setting it up but I have soo much love and hate for you because I’m soo happy and proud for the fact that you made this happen but my point is damn it’s soo easy for you to do this but soo hard for other folks but you goo man
I am guessing your employer understands that some customers may turn volume up quite high sometimes.Like a party with a lot of bodies that absorb the sound some or will be in another part of house .Then there are some who like the true theater experience.
Hello - i long time watching your channel - and is very positive.. I have one question for you, if you can help me - please)) I have amplifier - Integrated... and when i listen it with high volume levels - close to clipping - it's generates very loud popping in speakers.. i try another speakers and etc.. it's an amp generates popping.. can you ask to tech specialists or somebody who have clue - what's is this... Thank you a lot !!
Євген Домашець Put a scope on your amp while playing a 1khz tone. Adjust gain until sine flattens out. Back off the gain a bit. That will be the max volume you can play on your amp.
@@user-im3ry3it7e From what you describe, it sound like your amp may be clipping. If you put a scope on your amp, you will know for sure. I'm very good with electronics but James is much better then I am with audio. James gave me some awesome audio recommendations to me a couple of years ago and I am still in awe on how my system sounds.
As always. Very detailed and awesome demonstration and very interesting way of calibrating the system using your iPhone. I like your choice of music. Roger Waters is coming your way very soon. I think Friday.
You could use these for atmos. I would just recommend getting some standard in ceiling speakers though as there will no benefit to you by having 'sonos' ones.
Nice video but I am a little confused. Is Sonos saying the amp has the power to run 6 speakers or are they saying you can actually connect 6 speakers to the amp? Basically I'm just wanting to know how many speakers I could actually hook up to their amp.
@@SoundlineAudioNewZealand Did you find there to be any heat buildup issue? did you push moderate to high listening levels for any reasonable amount of time?
Not designed to be submerged, water blasted or hosed, but if they were under an outdoor soffit and it was raining, they have good enough ip protection to not corrode over time.
Yea we are waiting for higher channel count support as well, even just 7ch! But I think the issue is their products don't have an advanced enough surround decoder in them to do any more than Dolby 5.1. (Which is also the max that toslink can provide). With more of their products using ARC rather than Toslink, who knows maybe this is on the horizon.
Bit disappointed to see that the back of the speaker is open to vermin intrusion. We live in a country area and suffer field mice problems. Also if you need the speakers further away from each other you will need additional amps for each position of speakers making these speakers very overpriced. Very disappointed in these speakers.
You must not have a lot of experience with architectural speakers. 95% of architectural speakers are designed for free air use, as boxing the back can severely hamper installation flexibility. Backboxes often add a large amount of bulk to the speaker if properly tuned for the enclosure, or the enclosure is out of spec for the speaker and it affects the sound quality. There are however architectural speakers that ARE enclosed that will suit your need. You can search or I can point you in some directions if you are really interested. They are often quite a bit more expensive than free air. More design elements as well as lower production volume. I could actually sell you some if you are interested.
Ah, James, I so look towards to seeing your videos. I love the detail that you give to us, along with the obvious enjoyment that you get from being involved with high end audio. I like that you seem to have the same learning curve that we all do with a new piece of equipment. Please keep posting, you're a joy to watch and you are a great ambassador for Soundline.
@9:40 It adjusts the what? … LOL .
This video delivered the exact answer to a question I’ve had. No other videos described if the true play feature is actually worth it or a marketing ploy. Thank you!
Also, here's hoping that Sonos considers 7.1 in the future.
they look well built....great video
Hi there,
Loved how detailed your video was. I did not get bored and watched it 'til the end 😁
I now was able to understand much better how the architectural sono speakers are to be configured. I recently purchased a home with built-in architectural sono speakers but I wasn't sure how to connect them. At first, like many others I thought the speakers were wireless or bluetooth. Womp womp- (bummer). There's about 5 or 6 zones, can I use any other AMP or is it necessary to use the Sonos AMP?
Thank-you for posting this exclusive I really want to get these when they become availible!
Would love to know how these perform as rears for the playbar/arc vs ones.
I'm just about to pull the trigger on that install myself but I've already decided to buy ceilings anyway. Im just struggling to understand the how deep these speakers are. The website gives a depth but also gives a length.....what is the length of a speaker?
I hate in ceiling speakers for suround sound there great for room audio 2.0 . Floor standing or book shelf or inwall just sounds so much better thats my opinion .
Just to clarify you are measuring the resistance with a multimeter not the impedance.
Interesting, because all the manuals and specifications I've read on speakers including Sonance the manufacturer of these speakers, uses the Term "Impedance". See specs on this page: www.sonance.com/in-wall-in-ceiling/visual-performance/medium-round-square
@@SoundlineAudioNewZealand yes but the instrument is only measuring the pure ohm value do to it is using a DC voltage for the measuring.
Tommy is correct, your multimeter only measures resistance which is a DC measure. Impedance varies based on the frequency of an AC source. itstillworks.com/measure-speaker-impedance-2931.html. Appreciate the review!
Good job. I am confused buying them or something bigger/better for my basement entertainment bar area. We would like to get multiple in ceiling speakers which can do good amount of bass for parties as well. Sounds like this may not be a good fit. Thanks
Great video now just waiting for playbar atmos
Hi, nice system. Do you know if those ceiling speakers can integrate to a different home theatre system? Also, what’s the brand/make of your ipad case? It looks so sleek and does it comes with a stand? Many thanks.
love the flock of seagulls hairdo!!
I have a friend who used to sport a flock and seagull, but now that he is older he sports a bald eagle.
First class love it James
Would 2 be enough for a living room?
You system really sound very good in my 22$ shower speaker too.
Hey, how do you think these speakers would be if I only had these speakers on ceiling for a 5.1 surround for home theater with a vaulted ceiling?
For smart home usage, do you think the Sonos amp is a must have when considering building a ceiling sound system ?
There are many options out there for in ceiling sound systems, non of them sound as good as pair of floor or bookshelf speakers of course but there are many options. so the Sonos AMP isn't a MUST HAVE, its just a good option to look into.
@@SoundlineAudioNewZealand Thanks for the feedback
Can you pair 4 of these with the Sonos Playbar and Sonos sub? For movie/ regular tv watching?
How is the bass, with only the ceiling speakers? Im looking to get either 2-3 ceiling speakers (Any brand with sonos amp), or a set of sonos one's or maybe a play:5, what would you choose for a medium size kitchen? Would like to get a decent bass :)
Thanks for the video, looking for some advice, would you recommend just going for the sonance speakers instead of the sonos-sonance ones, and if so what is the equivalent sonance speaker? Is it much cheaper?
If you're using a sonos amp, go for the Sonos speakers because it allows you to use the trueplay tuning function. If any other amp, just go for Sonance.
Nice one James. Disappointed you didn’t tap the “membrane” ;)
Are you testing the Sonance C6R or the Sonos Architectural Speakers as there is about a the Sonos Architectural speakers cost about $450 more per pair??
Is there any power cable need to install or power going through amp?
The fact that that little amp can drive 6 speakers down to a 2.4 ohms is pretty amazing. I would imagine the amp would be cranking out quite a bit of power at that low of a rating. Could you please share where you heard that the Amp would handle that load? Only documentation that I can find show stable to 4 ohm (250 Watt).
www.sonos.com/en-nz/shop/ceiling-speaker-pair.html
On this page down under the FAQs it says one amp can handle up to three pairs of speakers.
But they have to be the Sonos ones.
Have you been able to get trueplay to work with sonance speakers? curious if there is something proprietary in the sonos version...
Hey man I don’t know if you’re the owner or the mind set behind setting it up but I have soo much love and hate for you because I’m soo happy and proud for the fact that you made this happen but my point is damn it’s soo easy for you to do this but soo hard for other folks but you goo man
wondering if movie playback is good or ok
I am guessing your employer understands that some customers may turn volume up quite high sometimes.Like a party with a lot of bodies that absorb the sound some or will be in another part of house .Then there are some who like the true theater experience.
Hello - i long time watching your channel - and is very positive..
I have one question for you, if you can help me - please))
I have amplifier - Integrated... and when i listen it with high volume levels - close to clipping - it's generates very loud popping in speakers.. i try another speakers and etc.. it's an amp generates popping.. can you ask to tech specialists or somebody who have clue - what's is this... Thank you a lot !!
Євген Домашець Put a scope on your amp while playing a 1khz tone. Adjust gain until sine flattens out. Back off the gain a bit. That will be the max volume you can play on your amp.
@@christopherfox6442 hello Chris. Did you mean it's just clipping nor tech. Issue?
@@user-im3ry3it7e From what you describe, it sound like your amp may be clipping. If you put a scope on your amp, you will know for sure. I'm very good with electronics but James is much better then I am with audio. James gave me some awesome audio recommendations to me a couple of years ago and I am still in awe on how my system sounds.
@@christopherfox6442 when it's close to clipping volume levels - it's popping.
Nice Video, missed a button on your shirt though.
In the UK a good majority of our houses have brick walls, but I'd love to get in wall speakers. However, I am not sure if I can do this?
AWD Photography build a fake wall
Can be done but you need a bracket
As always. Very detailed and awesome demonstration and very interesting way of calibrating the system using your iPhone. I like your choice of music. Roger Waters is coming your way very soon. I think Friday.
Ok
where did u get that sonos wallpaper from ?
We had it custom made.
James could I use these with my Marantz receiver for DTX or Atmos?
You could use these for atmos. I would just recommend getting some standard in ceiling speakers though as there will no benefit to you by having 'sonos' ones.
can you use these to make a 5.1 surround sound for a living room home theatre?
Nice video but I am a little confused. Is Sonos saying the amp has the power to run 6 speakers or are they saying you can actually connect 6 speakers to the amp? Basically I'm just wanting to know how many speakers I could actually hook up to their amp.
both
Its been a while now, have you actually tried putting 3 pairs of the speakers on one amp? did it work?
Hi yes we have done it once so far using a single Sonos Amp to power 6 of their speakers and it worked exactly as they sated it would.
@@SoundlineAudioNewZealand Did you find there to be any heat buildup issue? did you push moderate to high listening levels for any reasonable amount of time?
Looks like they're VP64R's to me.
Despites the cell phone video/youtube issues, seems to me the mids are quite blury.
Are those speakers wireless? Do they not need to be hooked up to the Amp?
Yes you wire them to the amp.
Are they waterproof
Not designed to be submerged, water blasted or hosed, but if they were under an outdoor soffit and it was raining, they have good enough ip protection to not corrode over time.
So we can get these speakers to add to our Sonos home audio, but no 7.1 or Atmos??
The whole reason I won’t invest in Sonos is no Atmos support
Yea we are waiting for higher channel count support as well, even just 7ch! But I think the issue is their products don't have an advanced enough surround decoder in them to do any more than Dolby 5.1. (Which is also the max that toslink can provide).
With more of their products using ARC rather than Toslink, who knows maybe this is on the horizon.
What’s the intro song
what mounting hardware do you use with these?
the speakers? they have dog ear screw down clamps. Clamps on to the outer ring of sheet rock like most architectural speakers.
What is the name of the ipad dock?
iPort Luxe Port
Very2x expansive
Can u install this in a bathroom?
Sonance speakers are rated for wet environments so yes.
Are these Dolby Atmos speakers
They could be used for dolby atmos yes but Sonos amplifiers do not support this audio format.
why don't you just play some pink noise and RTA measure??????
Bit disappointed to see that the back of the speaker is open to vermin intrusion. We live in a country area and suffer field mice problems. Also if you need the speakers further away from each other you will need additional amps for each position of speakers making these speakers very overpriced. Very disappointed in these speakers.
You must not have a lot of experience with architectural speakers. 95% of architectural speakers are designed for free air use, as boxing the back can severely hamper installation flexibility. Backboxes often add a large amount of bulk to the speaker if properly tuned for the enclosure, or the enclosure is out of spec for the speaker and it affects the sound quality. There are however architectural speakers that ARE enclosed that will suit your need. You can search or I can point you in some directions if you are really interested. They are often quite a bit more expensive than free air. More design elements as well as lower production volume. I could actually sell you some if you are interested.