I think target banning brings a fun dynamic to the game for viewers more than players, since in a team of six players you can only really target ban two people, which leaves you forced to put time into several characters, which i feel is something the game devs want to encourage given you can swap character at any time
its frustating to play as but its encouraging you to learn more than one hero also, ban phase happen in diamond do you really wanted to do target banning instead of crucial ban? and most who did it are fellow streamer in the end anyway
I think this is something that shouldn't even cross the devs mind, there are more important things to do before caring about a couple dozen players being target banned. And if you are at that level you should be good at a couple characters anyway.
@@berkalikalila i play Thor quite a bit so i bought the Love & Thunder skin and used the banner, i already encountered some Thor bans right after i changed the banner xd. i just played Strange and won, Thor is so situational
@berkalikalila target banning a champ that someone is extremely proficient and comfortable on is just as effective, if not more, compared to banning just hela or hawkeye. You can't think about it so one dimensionally. Target banning happens in all competitive games with a banning system. Just because you pigeonhold yourself on one specific character in a game with a ban system, doesn't mean others should just let you play to your strengths. Everyone wants to win.
I disagree, I think bans should be used to target the most frustrating characters to play against. If someone bans Bucky and leaves Hela unbanned, all you are asking for is for someone to play an easier character for more value while also saying "stop having fun" to the person who didn't choose to main an op character. Swapping is for if what you are playing isn't working, not if someone simply doesn't like you playing your character
On the subject of target banning, I don't see any issue with hiding the names of the enemy team like how League does it during ban phase. For me bans have always been way more about "I don't want to fight AGAINST this champ cause I don't like it for whatever reason" vs "i'm going to shut down this specific person on the other team".
Sometimes banning certain people js better than banning meta. I used to be a master tier rengar main in league even in d1 i had a 75% winrate ( jungler ) do you think it's worth banning my Rengar or my 55% winrate let's say Sejuani if she was meta? Obviously you ban out the 1 tricks, and this game having players showed further promotes it.
This is how i see it to. Say your team wants to run a specific comp or play dive, and wants to ban a character that is super good against that. Boom, do that. Or if there is a character that most people agree needs a nerf and is a bit overtuned, just ban them too. Target banning feels no different than stream sniping, except now its supported by the game.
Yeah the bans after seeing the enemy name is pretty stupid. Bans should just be for banning a character that entirely counters your team strat. Its not like with DOTA 2 where there are like 150 plus characters. Wanted gets his Bucky banned, ZBRA gets his Hulk banned, TeamCaptain gets his Wolverine banned, and that's frankly ridiculous. The target bans are objectively a horrendous idea.
Tbh I like them. It changes things up and forces the player to not only 1 track the same hero over and over and over and over and over and over. And in competitive environments such as tournaments well it's 6 man teams so you get to choose 2 of those 6 players main heroes and you better choose wisely. Or you just wanna ban characters you know that anyone can use and go insane (HELLA)
@@DreamerrSlaysWhile I love OTPs and their craft, I also don't see much trouble with targetted bans, especially if it only affects a handful of players. "If you're nothing without the suit, you shouldn't have it"
@HaNgan-oo5iv I completely agree! This games roster is going to get MASSIVE so idk, is it really that bad not being able to run your main 24/7 in High level games? I like watching people flex to other chars and doing just as well if not better sometimes
The problem with this is you'll constantly gonna play against hela, hulk, bucky and Iron-man. I would recommend putting a streamer mode on the game to avoid getting your mains banned...
Well if the game gets big enough to be an esport (which it will), how a team target bans will severely change the outcome of the match. It forces players to be good at multiple characters which is definitely not a bad thing
>reveal map >preference briefing >hero ban briefing >select character >load into map >THEN you should be able to see the names of the enemy team via game stats, no sooner
While target banning can be a rather frustrating thing to deal with, that is the price for being an otp. Target banning isn't even that big of a problem up until the very top ranks, where people become more well known for specific characters.
I completely agree with hiding players names during target banning. If you specialize in 1 character, and are hella good at it, you shouldn't be put at a disadvantage because you are that good. target banning should be used to get rid of general metas, or a certain character that your comp would have trouble fighting, not attacking a specialized player who puts the work in on a certain character.
Imo target banning is a crutch, instead of trying to learn how to play against a person/character just ban their main or otp and now you don't need to. Bans should always have thought behind them other than see x person ban y.
@ethanleblanc676 Tbh I've only played in PC ranked lobbies so idk. They could be really similar. Either way 13 streak from gold through platinum is still nasty! Did you solo que it?
I’m not personally a fan of target bans myself sure it may force that person to play someone other than their main but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re bad at any other character they just enjoy playing a specific character and you’re taking that enjoyment away from them by target banning. Just ban heroes that could hard counter whoever in your team that’ll help you win the game. Like I’m sure no one particularly wants to be continuously dove by a Wanda, Black Panther or Spider-Man they’d much rather fight dive characters they can actually deal with. I feel like the only hero that can win just about any 1v1 dive with good aim is Hawkeye because of his knock back melee which personally I think any non-melee character should have for those consistent divers, or maybe at least non-melee DPS heroes should have knock back idk. Cos some supports actually have decent kits for dealing with 1v1 dives if they utilise it correctly such as Cloak and Dagger’s healing bubble and Rocket has some decent mobility and from my personal experience Mantis can be extremely hard to hit with her speed but that may just be a skill issue on my part.
There are ults WAY more broken than Buckys. In higher rank you’re lucky to get off 2 or 3 dives. After the first it’s shut down about 70% of the time. His gun only has 3 rounds and has bullet drop off. 3 star seems fair considering someone like psylock is a 5 star
I think target banning brings a fun dynamic to the game for viewers more than players, since in a team of six players you can only really target ban two people, which leaves you forced to put time into several characters, which i feel is something the game devs want to encourage given you can swap character at any time
its frustating to play as
but its encouraging you to learn more than one hero
also, ban phase happen in diamond
do you really wanted to do target banning instead of crucial ban? and most who did it are fellow streamer in the end anyway
I think this is something that shouldn't even cross the devs mind, there are more important things to do before caring about a couple dozen players being target banned.
And if you are at that level you should be good at a couple characters anyway.
@@berkalikalila i play Thor quite a bit so i bought the Love & Thunder skin and used the banner, i already encountered some Thor bans right after i changed the banner xd.
i just played Strange and won, Thor is so situational
@berkalikalila target banning a champ that someone is extremely proficient and comfortable on is just as effective, if not more, compared to banning just hela or hawkeye. You can't think about it so one dimensionally. Target banning happens in all competitive games with a banning system. Just because you pigeonhold yourself on one specific character in a game with a ban system, doesn't mean others should just let you play to your strengths. Everyone wants to win.
I disagree, I think bans should be used to target the most frustrating characters to play against. If someone bans Bucky and leaves Hela unbanned, all you are asking for is for someone to play an easier character for more value while also saying "stop having fun" to the person who didn't choose to main an op character. Swapping is for if what you are playing isn't working, not if someone simply doesn't like you playing your character
On the subject of target banning, I don't see any issue with hiding the names of the enemy team like how League does it during ban phase. For me bans have always been way more about "I don't want to fight AGAINST this champ cause I don't like it for whatever reason" vs "i'm going to shut down this specific person on the other team".
then ban phase being so polarized
you always ban the SAME hero
soon it becomes an echo chamber and super toxic in long run
Sometimes banning certain people js better than banning meta.
I used to be a master tier rengar main in league even in d1 i had a 75% winrate ( jungler ) do you think it's worth banning my Rengar or my 55% winrate let's say Sejuani if she was meta?
Obviously you ban out the 1 tricks, and this game having players showed further promotes it.
This is how i see it to. Say your team wants to run a specific comp or play dive, and wants to ban a character that is super good against that. Boom, do that. Or if there is a character that most people agree needs a nerf and is a bit overtuned, just ban them too. Target banning feels no different than stream sniping, except now its supported by the game.
Yeah the bans after seeing the enemy name is pretty stupid. Bans should just be for banning a character that entirely counters your team strat. Its not like with DOTA 2 where there are like 150 plus characters. Wanted gets his Bucky banned, ZBRA gets his Hulk banned, TeamCaptain gets his Wolverine banned, and that's frankly ridiculous. The target bans are objectively a horrendous idea.
Tbh I like them. It changes things up and forces the player to not only 1 track the same hero over and over and over and over and over and over.
And in competitive environments such as tournaments well it's 6 man teams so you get to choose 2 of those 6 players main heroes and you better choose wisely. Or you just wanna ban characters you know that anyone can use and go insane (HELLA)
@@DreamerrSlaysWhile I love OTPs and their craft, I also don't see much trouble with targetted bans, especially if it only affects a handful of players. "If you're nothing without the suit, you shouldn't have it"
@HaNgan-oo5iv I completely agree! This games roster is going to get MASSIVE so idk, is it really that bad not being able to run your main 24/7 in High level games? I like watching people flex to other chars and doing just as well if not better sometimes
The problem with this is you'll constantly gonna play against hela, hulk, bucky and Iron-man. I would recommend putting a streamer mode on the game to avoid getting your mains banned...
Well if the game gets big enough to be an esport (which it will), how a team target bans will severely change the outcome of the match. It forces players to be good at multiple characters which is definitely not a bad thing
>reveal map
>preference briefing
>hero ban briefing
>select character
>load into map
>THEN you should be able to see the names of the enemy team via game stats, no sooner
wow. This dude dropped a 63-10 with 34k dmg and literally carried this team of kids
I did the same thing in gold and lost but with punisher..guess I am bad haha
@@susongbrit for sure
ARMED AND DANGEROUS: 🙂
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9:25 the strange blocking the magneto ult is something straight outta the comics
While target banning can be a rather frustrating thing to deal with, that is the price for being an otp. Target banning isn't even that big of a problem up until the very top ranks, where people become more well known for specific characters.
I completely agree with hiding players names during target banning. If you specialize in 1 character, and are hella good at it, you shouldn't be put at a disadvantage because you are that good. target banning should be used to get rid of general metas, or a certain character that your comp would have trouble fighting, not attacking a specialized player who puts the work in on a certain character.
This videos title is correct (derogatory)
Drink gasoline
9:48 was extremely satisfying, I hate psylock ult
Imo target banning is a crutch, instead of trying to learn how to play against a person/character just ban their main or otp and now you don't need to. Bans should always have thought behind them other than see x person ban y.
9:25 looked like something straight out of the comics
winter made my day by uploading AGAIN!
Im on an 18 game comp win streak I just gotta put that out there for validation please gamers
Actually really nice! Currently on a 4 myself hoping to keep it going after my shift!
What rank are ya brother?
@ I started the streak in gold 2 and got to d2 where I did lose 2 games after 19 wins lol I’m on console too sure that matters
@ethanleblanc676 Tbh I've only played in PC ranked lobbies so idk. They could be really similar.
Either way 13 streak from gold through platinum is still nasty!
Did you solo que it?
Happy New Year!! Goated my guy. I actually switched from Hawkeye to a Winter Soldier main because of you👌🏼
Happy New Year, John!!
switched from spidey to bucky and its so much more fun but i hate going against magik bcs she can js portal through the hook sometimes
I’m not personally a fan of target bans myself sure it may force that person to play someone other than their main but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re bad at any other character they just enjoy playing a specific character and you’re taking that enjoyment away from them by target banning. Just ban heroes that could hard counter whoever in your team that’ll help you win the game. Like I’m sure no one particularly wants to be continuously dove by a Wanda, Black Panther or Spider-Man they’d much rather fight dive characters they can actually deal with. I feel like the only hero that can win just about any 1v1 dive with good aim is Hawkeye because of his knock back melee which personally I think any non-melee character should have for those consistent divers, or maybe at least non-melee DPS heroes should have knock back idk. Cos some supports actually have decent kits for dealing with 1v1 dives if they utilise it correctly such as Cloak and Dagger’s healing bubble and Rocket has some decent mobility and from my personal experience Mantis can be extremely hard to hit with her speed but that may just be a skill issue on my part.
Dude looked at Flats Tier List and had to do something
2:14 based January enjoyer
1:11 I think Hela used her stun when you landed and I guess cancelled out your renewal for it? Idk.
the dragon road night song. Wanted knows ball
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who misses WS ultimate smashes so much.
Legend has it that if you stare at the Bucky ult showcase for so long you will get guaranteed 2 agains every ult :0
When i saw him playing with storm i immediately knew it was prestøn or pm2g became hes the only gm storm player i know and its kinda cool seeing that
like i feel u man but if i see u in my game and ik ur gonna dominate the game with bucky im gonna target ban u 😭.
I also had 7 ults in one qp game hes just crazy
That hook on ulting Psylocke was dirty
I miss Wanted x McCree
undernight music goes diabolically hard
My game only has bucky in it, i feel like he is super good for killing dive characters and countering most things in the game
Watching Wanted play Bucky Arms my Dangerous until I Again
Who tf said bucky is overrated, he's top OP af
I hate bans, they ruin every game and shouldnt exist. I play a game for the characters, not the mechanics. Trash ideas
I hate that this was the first joke I saw this morning.
I think there’s a tech for Bucky that allows you to hook and place them behind you instead of front, useful when you were fighting magneto.
I desperately want them to get rid of the charge system on the hook. It feels horrible to use
Hook too free not to have a charge
@ still needs to be aimed. Like roadhog.
yes
Bro what? Hook is nasty! One of the best parts in his kit for sure
@@DreamerrSlays never said it was bad. It just feels bad to use. Idk how to describe it, like it isn’t satisfying and feels so clunky to me.
Anyone on steam that suffers drom big crashes???
I was 1 game from diamond bit disconnected or pc restarted 20 games and back to silver 1
Any fixes
Had this issue only once..try checking ur thermals
The hitbox at 1:05 is stupid af
You normally hit those when you aim to the right. Also probably packet loss or something xD
How on earth are you getting 200+ FPS
good pc
Lmao 63 kills required to win a game
I had to play winter soldier for a challenge n I enjoyed him
Mb nice video
W agains buy mr wanted
Could you play rivals with me
AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN
63 kills 💀
Again?
Again.exe
You needa pray to Mickey Mouse for dropping this game. Your views have more than doubled per vid
AGAIN
Bucky should be a one star character all you do is you just need good aim and then you have a hook a punch and slow orb and a broken ult
There are ults WAY more broken than Buckys. In higher rank you’re lucky to get off 2 or 3 dives. After the first it’s shut down about 70% of the time. His gun only has 3 rounds and has bullet drop off. 3 star seems fair considering someone like psylock is a 5 star
He gets a star for every "and" in your statement.
AGAIN GUY
stop posting ur bucky vids I want to play him without him getting banned🤣
AGAIN!!!!
Rank 11 in world but can't aim for sh3t. Gg wanted, you clowned yourself even harder than in overwatch 😂
Haters gonna hate 🤣
He smurfs your peak
@jyrlan2596 you keep outing yourself as having 0 shooter experience if you think this is good. Must be sad to have 0 experience in life 😔
@@Deadmeatsz awful b8
AGAIN
Those little girl screams make it unbearable to watch.
He's obviously a cheese character.