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  • Let's talk about Sukuna's TRUE Cursed Technique, how he cast the Flame Arrow, and what that Black Box is.
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  • @ManganimistYT
    @ManganimistYT  3 місяці тому +124

    Did I cook?
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    • @destroyer752
      @destroyer752 3 місяці тому +2

      Would love for you to theorize on what sukuna trident named Hiten does of it will ever appear in the shinjiku fight

    • @Mr.Game959
      @Mr.Game959 3 місяці тому

      bro i like the idea and if you turn out to be right ill eat my words but i think you burnt the kitchen on this one lol (although ive been scared hes gonna eat someone soon for the past like ten chapters)

    • @thermophile1695
      @thermophile1695 3 місяці тому +12

      Stand proud, you cooked.

    • @Zerix51
      @Zerix51 3 місяці тому +7

      Wait the cooking on the last part was actually crazy. If your are right about this then it can explain why yuji seemingly didn’t get sukunas CT bcs it’s not cleave or dismantle but get new CT’s by eating others

    • @Snooki977
      @Snooki977 3 місяці тому +3

      I revoked your cooking license, you are now promoted to chef congratulations.

  • @wispsoul
    @wispsoul 3 місяці тому +1032

    "oh, that's right. i thought you'd know about this, but i suppose a cursed spirit wouldn't."

    • @Highstar7331
      @Highstar7331 3 місяці тому +132

      That's the line that bugs me. If it were something sorcerers heard of from ages past. . . wouldn't that info have carried over through the ages along with his legend [as we hear from gojo in the first few chapters] The only person we've ever seen wonder about Sukuna's technique IN VERSE has been Jogo. . . who we know wouldn't know.
      If the current day sorcerers knew about it, they could have accounted for it during the month. . . and yet still not told us the readers. :((((

    • @Jaloggest
      @Jaloggest 3 місяці тому +149

      @@Highstar7331 I'm guessing that since it's been a thousand years and the fact that I'm sure the number of sorcerers have been dropping since old eras that the information about Sukuna could just been lost to time. Same thing on how Toji knew nothing about Hollow Purple. And even though Hollow Purple is a secret technique I'm sure that sorcerers back then would have known about it. Yet somehow it was never written down.

    • @randomdude6446
      @randomdude6446 3 місяці тому +69

      ​@@JaloggestWhile it's never explicitly stated, Hollow Purple probably didn't exist back then. Otherwise, the ancient Six Eyes user could have killed Mahorga. It might even have been developed to kill Mahorga.

    • @Lazyjongabarreto
      @Lazyjongabarreto 3 місяці тому +43

      maybe its because cursed spirits dont get any information passed down because when they get exorcized they are reborn a couple of hundred years later so..

    • @greezchum76
      @greezchum76 3 місяці тому +72

      @@Highstar7331the big three family has been known to hide a lot of jujutsu from sorcerers outside them. Kenjaku was also able to erase all records of a person. Modern sorcerers simply not knowing an ancient technique isnt far fetched at all

  • @thekamotodragon
    @thekamotodragon 3 місяці тому +844

    Cleave and Dismantle= how he filets/prepares his food.
    Fuga fire arrow= how he cooks his food.
    Giant second mouth= how he eats his food.
    Uraume= how he preserves his food. (Freezes leftovers and knows good recipes for human, apparently.)

    • @MementoDespair
      @MementoDespair 3 місяці тому +126

      He even called Gojo a Fish.

    • @mileslocman
      @mileslocman 3 місяці тому +28

      Urame can freeze cursed energy

    • @devaughnmcleod3983
      @devaughnmcleod3983 3 місяці тому +8

      🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @12_galangputralesmana11
      @12_galangputralesmana11 3 місяці тому +14

      IT MADE SENSE NOW! 😮😮😮😮🗣️

    • @robeln.4094
      @robeln.4094 3 місяці тому +39

      BRO I was thinking the same thing 😭😭 It would make the Malevolent Kitchen translation so accurate

  • @BolGotronic
    @BolGotronic 3 місяці тому +1448

    I think it's a box that's potentially black

    • @The_bacon113
      @The_bacon113 3 місяці тому +13

      lol

    • @swordsunknown5226
      @swordsunknown5226 3 місяці тому +68

      Damn didn’t know his ct was from Africa

    • @babaG819
      @babaG819 3 місяці тому +11

      While I agree I think that it is more specifically literally black

    • @babaG819
      @babaG819 3 місяці тому

      ​@@swordsunknown5226boo

    • @Skream-du8po
      @Skream-du8po 3 місяці тому +9

      I think it is square

  • @purple-47
    @purple-47 3 місяці тому +220

    7:25 no wonder Sukuna has been killing everyone, hes the original MC.

    • @polytopoideia
      @polytopoideia 3 місяці тому +24

      JJK Chapter 1: Ryomen Sukuna

    • @blankx15
      @blankx15 2 місяці тому +1

      Master cook. Lol.

  • @qururox
    @qururox 3 місяці тому +250

    The moment when Sukuna says "Fuga" (Open) again in the manga is gonna be legendary

    • @pjderouen
      @pjderouen 3 місяці тому

      I wonder if it’s Yuji’s curse technique at its maximum potential like the Ten Shadows from Megumi?

    • @UrjaswanPaul-cd8mq
      @UrjaswanPaul-cd8mq 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@pjderouenYuji doesn't have CT😂. After awakening he may have tho.

    • @pjderouen
      @pjderouen 2 місяці тому

      @@UrjaswanPaul-cd8mq I believe it could be that he simply can’t access it. Since CT is stored in the brain there’s no reason to believe it wasn’t always there, just inaccessible. With how Sukuna understands jujutsu, I can’t imagine it not being a possibility

    • @gavo7911
      @gavo7911 2 місяці тому +8

      @@UrjaswanPaul-cd8mqWe literally just saw Yuji using Piercing Blood, he clearly got it after consuming his brothers. There’s no room for interpretation, he HAS a CT, and it’s Blood Manipulation.

    • @UrjaswanPaul-cd8mq
      @UrjaswanPaul-cd8mq 2 місяці тому +3

      @@pjderouen Thats what I meant he might have CT but only after awakening. Pre awakening Yuji don't have CT because Higuruma's confiscation didn't confiscated any CT but his Cursed energy.

  • @degen7278
    @degen7278 3 місяці тому +775

    I respect the amount of restraint it must take Gege to not explain it. Its one of the things that keep me engaged until I know. The Fuga chant is orgasmic.

    • @geoffreywyliejr44
      @geoffreywyliejr44 3 місяці тому +50

      Ayo 💀

    • @farhanansari8343
      @farhanansari8343 3 місяці тому +8

      Same

    • @lordgrub12345
      @lordgrub12345 3 місяці тому +37

      I have an idea where sukuna's tecnique works in a similar way to both yuta's and megumi's tecnique. He starts off with cleave which is meant to cut down opponents into pieces so he can eat them. This is similar to megumi's divine dogs where they are basically freebies meant to be used to obtain his tecniques maximum potencial. Then, when he consumes the flesh of his opponent he gains their cursed tecnique which is then stored in his shrine for later use, although once used he would only be able to use them for a small amount of time. This would make sense because 1. Sukuna is many times associated with the preparation and cutting of food, and his food is people and 2. Well, if fire arrow was still required, then he would've used it against gojo when his Infinity was down.

    • @stunnagirl8465
      @stunnagirl8465 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@@lordgrub12345 Bro just might be gege

    • @delta2370
      @delta2370 3 місяці тому +4

      What the fuck did i just read💀

  • @neb2777
    @neb2777 3 місяці тому +459

    Sukuna ‘eating’ also means he’s fighting his opponents getting a ‘taste’ of their unique flavor (cursed technique). That’s why he fights passively because he wants to enjoy his ‘meal’. ( there’s a way better way to say this but I hope you get the point lol)

    • @quietisonline
      @quietisonline 3 місяці тому +46

      keep cooking

    • @JohnJohnson-zt3bv
      @JohnJohnson-zt3bv 3 місяці тому

      @@quietisonlinenah Sukuna might eat that as well. Bro is obese.

    • @neb2777
      @neb2777 3 місяці тому +38

      @@quietisonline If Sukuna eating is a metaphor for him fighting, does this mean when Gege said Sukuna would 'eat' and important character does this just mean he fights and kills them? So what then? Sukuna only kills off one important character? Gege did say its either everyone but yuji dies or only yuji dies

    • @YunGGenO77
      @YunGGenO77 3 місяці тому +1

      This

    • @jaopedefeijao5716
      @jaopedefeijao5716 3 місяці тому +2

      its kinda like ryu then?

  • @jackhyde1488
    @jackhyde1488 3 місяці тому +220

    Probably the best theory I’ve heard so far.

    • @theophrastusvonhoenheim4022
      @theophrastusvonhoenheim4022 2 місяці тому

      Except for the fact that it doesn’t explain what’s going on, why would sukuna think a cursed spirit wouldn’t know about a cursed technique? He even said after he wouldn’t reveal his technique so unless the English translation of that part is wrong which is possible something’s missing between what a cursed spirit wouldn’t know about a technique and a new technique reveal

  • @ballsweat5578
    @ballsweat5578 3 місяці тому +120

    i feel like sukunas technique revolves around an actual kitchen and what goes around in it. cutting and heat are both integral to any kitchen. uraume also has the ability to freeze stuff which is also used in kitchens to preserve food which probably adds to why they’re close to sukuna. Sukuna fighting philosophy is probably like same way how powerful people enjoy food. finest foods (strong opponents) should be remembered and savored while anything below that you can forget

    • @pbsuite
      @pbsuite 3 місяці тому +4

      Yeah , the fire and knives 😂😂😂
      Your cooking, I can feel it

    • @dgbneyuyd
      @dgbneyuyd 3 місяці тому +3

      What's yuji then poison 😂

    • @monkeywrangler5615
      @monkeywrangler5615 3 місяці тому +4

      what's interesting is he doesn't have to say "fugo" to manipulate fire and heat. he says when he has a contest of fire with Jogo and then after melting everything to make sure it doesn't spread to potentially harm his Precious Megumi. literally manipulating the flames and heat to converge afterwards and fade away. The arrow created by "open/refinement". basically goes from macro fire control to micro fire manipulation. or im wrong 😋

    • @sexydj3184
      @sexydj3184 3 місяці тому

      ​@@dgbneyuydyuji is a raw steak 🥩

  • @quietisonline
    @quietisonline 3 місяці тому +33

    I think you finally cracked it. This is the MOST plausible theory so far.

  • @Zestytrashcan82
    @Zestytrashcan82 3 місяці тому +56

    This would line up with the oddities surrounding yujis technique. It’s possible yuji actually has his own shrine, and that he ate the remaining death wombs to obtain blood manipulation.

    • @Princess_Kenny
      @Princess_Kenny 2 місяці тому +3

      Maybe the shrine is his technique and cleave, dismantle and fire arrow are offerings given to him. That would mean that same as Yuji he can absorb them by eating

    • @Zestytrashcan82
      @Zestytrashcan82 2 місяці тому +2

      Well when you think about it, Yutas technique copy works the same as Sukunas. He had Rika eat the sky manipulation girls arm, and afterwards he used their technique.
      More over, In Yutas Domain expansion we see a method for how he stores cursed techniques.

    • @david-rf7tf
      @david-rf7tf 2 місяці тому

      so

    • @Zestytrashcan82
      @Zestytrashcan82 2 місяці тому

      @@david-rf7tf it would seem so.

    • @LadyoftheGeneral
      @LadyoftheGeneral 2 місяці тому +1

      257 all but confirms it. Yuji has his own shrine and that’s WHY he’s the perfect vessel

  • @Niranjan04
    @Niranjan04 3 місяці тому +91

    This was exactly my theory as well! Sukuna is always referenced with "eating" and "storing/opening boxes" that I thought he might as well eat sorcerers and acquire their CT and store it for his own use!
    Fantastic vid 👌

    • @hyjjjkyikk3158
      @hyjjjkyikk3158 3 місяці тому +5

      It better be a kitchen technique and not just another copy or stealing technique. Cuz that would be generic as fck. Almost any anime villain has this .

    • @SassyPest
      @SassyPest 3 місяці тому +3

      Then why didn't Yuta have access to it?

    • @kamp4347
      @kamp4347 3 місяці тому +2

      @@SassyPestthat’s a good question

    • @user-wm3yo4ew2d
      @user-wm3yo4ew2d 3 місяці тому +6

      In yuta's case, the person responsible for storing the cursed techniques is rika, sukuna probably has a cooking technique, when consumed he consumes all the nutrients (Maybe even he literally consumes EVERYTHING from the opponent, knowledge, strength, speed, cursed energy and CT)

    • @Soulblackstar
      @Soulblackstar 3 місяці тому +2

      A question I just wanna know is… If Sukunas CT is to store other CT’s by eating them why didn’t sukuna just eat megumi to get the ten shadows technique?

  • @Spoderfok
    @Spoderfok 3 місяці тому +145

    I agree, he tried to eat angel afterall. Maybe his cursed technique stemmed from people offering prayers for wrong reasons like hatred as in literally cursing someone to die, as it is a shrine that physically manifests into reality, could mean his shrine literally existed before.

    • @quietisonline
      @quietisonline 3 місяці тому +17

      oh shit, that's actually true. we've never seen him distort his head like that before...

    • @kit5849
      @kit5849 3 місяці тому +27

      Well, not to go too crazy, but Ryomen Sukuna is a literal yokai from Japanese mythology, who has a shrine in his honour in Gege's home town...

    • @Blade.5786
      @Blade.5786 3 місяці тому +32

      ​@@kit5849 Who's stronger, you or him?

    • @fazom1707
      @fazom1707 3 місяці тому +34

      @@Blade.5786 If Sukuna were to regain all his power, it might cause me a little trouble.

    • @depressedtraingirl1056
      @depressedtraingirl1056 3 місяці тому +31

      @@fazom1707but would you lose?

  • @Your-favourite-silly-cat
    @Your-favourite-silly-cat 3 місяці тому +18

    I absolutely agree with your theory, but here's my interpretation:
    Sukuna's CT is literally just the embodiment of eating.
    That's it.
    The dismantle, a cut where it depends on how much CE sukuna outputs into it, is the same as how people used to cut food with knives in the past, and how the effectiveness of the knife depended on how hard someone uses the knife.
    Cleave is just someone biting through his food.
    You might ask how this correlates (since it's not as obvious as dismantle) but hear me out; when you bite into anything, do you CONSCIOUSLY choose wether to bite really hard or really soft? No, you automatically do that depending on the toughness of your food.
    If you're eating ice cream, you don't just cut down on it like steak instantly, no, your brain automatically tells your teeth not to bite hard.
    This concept is the same as cleave's concept, where both adjust themselves depending on the toughness of whatever you're fighting/eating.
    The fire arrow is just....fire.
    Fire is used to cook food, hell, it's THE reason why we CAN eat food.
    It has existed for so long we don't know when the first human used it.
    The "open" part, though as not dramatic nor complex as the other points, may just be a chant, like how most people need to yell out their move before attacking.
    This can be compared to Gojo's "Hollow Purple", since it's the strongest attack in his arsenal, a chant may be needed for the technique to work.
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    Anyways, sorry for all that yapping lmao. Those are just my thoughts, what do y'all think?
    (What follows after this sentence is a "debunk" to Sukuna's technique "storing" other cursed techniques. Its also an edit lol)
    Also, anotha reason why i dont think "shrine" is a "storing technique", is when he used 10S against yoruza.
    Considering how close/knowledgeable yoruza of sukuna, she definitely would know that sukuna's technique is a storing one. (Hell, shes the one where we get the name "shrine" from.)
    Now heres the kicker, if sukunas cursed technique is about STORING other cursed techniques, she wouldn't question why he didnt use "shrine" against her, but she did.
    If she knew "shrine" stored other techs, she wouldnt question why sukuna didn't use that same "shrine" against her, but she did.
    (Edit 2:Well, depending on which translation you view it from, you would say she KNEW that 10S was megumi's technique, but my theory still holds up hecause if sukuna's technique WAS actually about storing other techniques, then she wouldnt tell him to "use "shrine"". Sorry for the extra EXTRA yapping session lmao)

  • @TitusGuard
    @TitusGuard 3 місяці тому +70

    Having fire on top of slicing makes sense. Afterall a chef has to cook the meal after the ingredients are prepared

    • @WarpSonic
      @WarpSonic 3 місяці тому +4

      That's what I'm saying dude, it's filet dissect and malevolent kitchen 😂

  • @rezx20youtube89
    @rezx20youtube89 3 місяці тому +45

    Broooo YOUR INSANE IT FITS SO PERFECTLY LIKE EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE LIKE YOUR A GOD

    • @MinorPumpingIron
      @MinorPumpingIron 3 місяці тому +3

      This video made me have an epiphany moment

    • @cornpop838
      @cornpop838 3 місяці тому

      Least autistic jjk fan

  • @SilentiumCivis
    @SilentiumCivis 2 місяці тому +13

    This just adds to the list of direct similarities between Sukuna & Rika / Yuta since he gets his abilities from Rika.
    1) King of curses / Queen of curses
    2) Only characters who RCT heals people
    3) (If shrine stores CT) Both Rika & Sukuna store CT within themselves like a storage
    4) The requirement for storing CTs is eating parts of people (Confirmed with Yuta eating Sukuna’s finger)
    These are to similar to be coincidence & what’s even crazier is rika was created by how strong yutas love was for her, love being a key topic in Sukuna’s story.

    • @SnazzyBeatle
      @SnazzyBeatle 2 місяці тому

      Then how come Yuta only got Cutting when Rika ate the finger and not Shrine/Fire Arrow?

  • @Jagrofes
    @Jagrofes 3 місяці тому +10

    To add to the “Cooking” theme, the original word for dismantle (Kai) is a cooking technique.
    Specifically it refers to the techniques for preparing fish for Sashimi or Nigiri Sushi. One of the knives shown in the Manga when discussing Cleave and Dismantle during the Shibuya Malevolent shrine looked very similar to a yanagi ba, the single bevel knife used for cutting Sashimi.
    Fun tidbit: the famous Kitchen Knife brands Shun, and Seki Magoroku, as well as Kershaw USA pocket knives, are all owned by a conglomerate known as the Kai Group (Named after the same cooking technique as dismantle).

  • @greezchum76
    @greezchum76 3 місяці тому +12

    I feel like sukuna and his weird black box is sukuna finding a way to have multiple techniques. Only two people have multiple cursed techniques, which only happened because their native technique let them do so. Maybe there’s a way to combine two techniques into one technique, bypassing the general rule of not having multiple techniques by just forcing multiple into one?

  • @olivierzamora9106
    @olivierzamora9106 3 місяці тому +14

    Yorozu isn't the only one that calls Sukuna's CT a "Shrine". When Higuruma fought with Sukuna, when he talks about possible target of "Confiscation" he refers to Sukuna's orginal technique also by name "Shrine". Maybe Angel also shared some information about usage of "Shrine" to Jujutsu Squad(refrerence to S*icide Squad and you know why :/ ).

  • @nightmare-hz8nv
    @nightmare-hz8nv 3 місяці тому +10

    this has been my personal theory for months and months now, you read my mind. great vid!

  • @JustFrostiii
    @JustFrostiii 3 місяці тому +6

    Man I just love your videos man you the only reason i’ve been able to keep up with jjk

  • @danielsteven5159
    @danielsteven5159 2 місяці тому +11

    THIS AGED SO WELL 🗣🔥

  • @TrueAfricanHero
    @TrueAfricanHero 3 місяці тому +4

    This was actually pretty informative.

  • @mr.moodie5223
    @mr.moodie5223 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent research bro... I love your channel best breakdowns ever of JJK and you get str8 to the point. Keep up the great work bro!

  • @kaushalthakar1319
    @kaushalthakar1319 2 місяці тому

    Best video yet, appreciate your hard work.

  • @jikanwa
    @jikanwa 3 місяці тому

    for sure one of my favorite content creators

  • @KilroyStillHere
    @KilroyStillHere 3 місяці тому +39

    hear me out .. "open : pandora" would go hard in the anime

    • @GwwWgw
      @GwwWgw 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@kidanhone6048buddy hasn't watched fate

    • @theonewayroad3867
      @theonewayroad3867 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@GwwWgwreally now what Japanese character in Fate has anything to do with Greek Myth....

    • @anuragdas4605
      @anuragdas4605 3 місяці тому +1

      OKEY , EXPLAIN (I am not a fan of Fate franchise, so i have no idea what you talking about)

    • @theonewayroad3867
      @theonewayroad3867 3 місяці тому +6

      @anuragdas4605 bruh, I've watched all the animes, read most of if not all the light novels, played the games, and I still have no clue what blud is waffling about.

    • @anuragdas4605
      @anuragdas4605 3 місяці тому +1

      @@theonewayroad3867 and that's the why keeping distance Fate franchise, fuck that thing, I am happy with JJK, One piece, and Sakamoto Days

  • @flaviomadeiramirandafilho3469
    @flaviomadeiramirandafilho3469 3 місяці тому +5

    This was a full on banquet, thanks my guy

  • @dragon101woof8
    @dragon101woof8 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the shout out and vid, you put everything together really well. I've been thinking that Yuji and Sukuna might share a eating technique for a while. I also think this is a better way for Sukuna to go "all out" as instead of just having a bunch of extra cursed energy maybe he just has more techniques he could use. It will be interesting to see if Sukuna will end up using Angel's technique since if he can then the story is doomed.

  • @cornbread9512
    @cornbread9512 3 місяці тому +4

    I’ve seen this theory around for a while and I’ve never been fully on board with it until the very end of the video where you brought up the comparison between yuji also eating to gain power. I think that detail alone lines up too perfectly and I’ve never seen that comparison brought up before. Sukuna’s technique reveal is gonna be insane no matter what it is

  • @kwameopoku506
    @kwameopoku506 2 місяці тому +1

    When you said "so y'all did I cook?" That was cold. Great video, props man ✊🏿

  • @andragonm8932
    @andragonm8932 3 місяці тому +6

    It could also be eating cursed tools, thus “storing” them in the shrine, cleave/dismantle are knives the fire arrow is an arrow etc.

  • @NimmoLight
    @NimmoLight 3 місяці тому +5

    I think the square is a reference to the square tattoo on his shoulder. There are 3 squares on each shoulder: adding up to 6. There are 6 humanoid skulls hanging on the roof of Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine. Those skulls contain Sukuna's fire. We know this because there is a color page with him holding a humanoid skull that is brimming with fire.
    I distinguish the shoulder squares form the rectangles on his back. The rectangles on his back correspond to the eyes of the bulls on his floor. Those eyes represent death; they look like Mahito's mirror. And thus the rectangles are dismantle.
    The center tattoos on his back are related to those antler like post with the unbloomed flower on top. Thus, the center branching tattoos represent life. So they branches are his healing ability.
    All his tattoos correspond to his shrine. The top of the shrine has a bullhead and 4 humanoid skulls. That bull is tattooed on his forehead, and those four skulls represent his 4 eyes or maybe his 4 extra eye markings that emanate from his extra eyes.
    His mouth markings represent dismantle. Aka his Trishul.

  • @seangeekin9373
    @seangeekin9373 2 місяці тому

    yeah you're going crazy on the theories bro keep it up

  • @JustASpider980
    @JustASpider980 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for including that manga page of Todo. I haven't gotten to read it yet, and the wording he had was pretty interesting

  • @Daruno
    @Daruno 3 місяці тому +20

    Maybe he stores attacks?
    Something like, someone shoots him with Fire, now, he can "open" his shrine, absorb it, and use it as his own.
    Steling from others, thats something the KING of curses would probably do.
    Probably Cleave and Dismantle also where stolen from a powerfull opponent, or maybe his first stolen technique, and thats why he uses it so often.
    Or god don't want it... is his weakest curse technique stolen.

    • @Annihilation_Studios
      @Annihilation_Studios 3 місяці тому

      It's been confirmed that cleave and dismantle are a part of shrine (his original curse technique). But I do think you might be cooking with this one

    • @jonarhax3388
      @jonarhax3388 3 місяці тому +1

      Can't wait for inumaki to show up and say "shrine open" so his cleave gets stolen

    •  3 місяці тому

      Maybe it is the weakest. It was the best against gojo, but just the flame arrows could have one shot everyone.

    • @smhwolvi
      @smhwolvi 3 місяці тому +1

      i dont think he would just be a copy and paste of yuta
      but i do think that maybe he can absorb others techniques and take them for himself like you said, before swapping to another. it would make sense, he fought jogo and borrowed his cursed technique and since he didnt copy anyone else after, he was able to reuse it on mahoraga. the reason i feel like he has this limitation is because to me it sounded like he directly copied from jogo when he said "ill fight you with your own specialty" copying what JOGO did, not like he already had it. i could be entirely wrong tho, words are words.
      i think he can do this just from an immense understanding of cursed energy and techniques, and that its something he possesses NEXT TO his own technique, cleave and dismantle. sounds kinda odd but i wouldnt put it past him since hes the king of curses.

  • @JimmyCas
    @JimmyCas 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for finally nailing down the Black Box vs Black Square discussion as I see a lot of JJK UA-camrs conflate them as the same time when the anime made it very clear when nothing was said

  • @BrienH
    @BrienH 3 місяці тому

    This guy is the best JJK content creator on UA-cam.

  • @Justzay115
    @Justzay115 3 місяці тому

    Allons-y dropped another really great theory on what Sukuna’s CT is and it’s crazy how similar y’all got it. I would kill to see a collab between you two doing some insane theories.

  • @onappap
    @onappap 2 місяці тому

    I heavily respect your work

  • @shaunjohnson9744
    @shaunjohnson9744 3 місяці тому +24

    This is actually cool. Sukuna having shrine would make sense and everything so far that he used works. A shrine has been used a lot for sacrifices in many cultures, and everything sukuna has used so far have been ways people have been sacrificed in history

    • @monkeywrangler5615
      @monkeywrangler5615 3 місяці тому +1

      the Bison Skulls are such tremendous symbolism in his domain

    • @shaunjohnson9744
      @shaunjohnson9744 3 місяці тому

      @@monkeywrangler5615 which is why it makes even more sense since animals were used as sacrifices quite a bit

  • @Yung.Ert.
    @Yung.Ert. 2 місяці тому

    Yeah you cooked bro. I’ve had this theory ever since he made the fish analogy with Gojo. Love the videos and appreciate the more in depth attempt at your videos

  • @ottersaurus
    @ottersaurus 3 місяці тому +2

    Could be Domain Open. Implying that the original domain “expansions” were all open domains and that one’s innate technique is their domain. Maybe they could only use curse energy in ritualistic places, like shrines. And shrines acted as sorcerers’ domains, where they can use techniques. Maybe this is how the sorcerer clans started

  • @ghuamps
    @ghuamps 2 місяці тому +1

    I've always thought Fuga (The black box) was an ability that every sorcerer was capable of because of the way he introduced it to the audience. I think its a technique like new shadow style rather than an inherited technique that has you condense cursed energy and work air into it to allow it to combust as Gojo revealed in one of the most recent chapters enviromental effects do have an effect on jujutsu. The way it's drawn looks much closer to cursed energy dyed orange and red due to extreme heat rather than Jogo's flames which is an actual technique and generates fire and lava. You can see Sukuna superheating his cursed energy before even saying Open which makes me feel like it's closer to New Shadow style that has you form contracts to use it (unless you're Kusakabe) or like reciting an incantation for a normal technique it just maximizes its efficiency or allows him to form the arrow from it like a heatsink. Gojo's Six Eyes didn't tell him any other ability besides Cleave and DIsmantle (the audience never really got told so I'm pullin) and when Yuta copied his technique recently, he used Cleave n didn't mention anything else. I think Sukuna just has a bag of sneaky or just forgotten fundamental jujutsu combat techniques nobody else really but like Kenjaku might've known.

  • @semekiizuio
    @semekiizuio 2 місяці тому

    Ive heard of this theory before but you managed to break it down so much better. Also want to point, when Yuuji goes into Sukuna inmer soul where they made the Binding Vow, that place looks like the inside of an animals stomach.... from the spine on top to the fluids below and skulls lingering throughout the shrine

  • @CadillacBoi07
    @CadillacBoi07 3 місяці тому +1

    Fire 🔥 vid Fuga!!! 😂

  • @-Abhijeet-
    @-Abhijeet- 3 місяці тому +4

    Yes that makes sense, I think yuji has already acquired Sukuna's CT but he isn't aware of it. And the reason why he is able to use blood manipulation is because he might have swallowed some blood of Choso's during his fight.

    • @maxbardus3019
      @maxbardus3019 3 місяці тому +4

      He got blood manipulation by eating death paintings but I agree

  • @yuncelluz8709
    @yuncelluz8709 3 місяці тому

    Enjoying your videos 🎉🎉🎉

  • @The_fastfreddy
    @The_fastfreddy 3 місяці тому +5

    If we're going with the idea that Sukuna needs to eat someone to get their curse technique then wouldn't it be hilarious if Sukuna pulled out Jacobs ladder because he took a bite out of Angle

  • @koray1621
    @koray1621 2 місяці тому +1

    You cooked so good that kitchen is burning lol

  • @sharlockshacolmes9381
    @sharlockshacolmes9381 2 місяці тому

    Now that he's open the furnace we know that he was truly cooking in a malevolent kitchen all along

  • @aldeberan6181
    @aldeberan6181 3 місяці тому +2

    There's been a lot of speculation on why Yuji hasn't inherited Sukuna's technique yet like Gojo said he would. It's possible he was wrong or that Sukuna wasn't in his body long enough for the technique to ingrain itself onto him, but if we go by the theory in this video that Sukuna eats people and then stores their techniques in his Shrine, didn't Yuji eat the Death Paintings to get Blood Manipulation?

  • @Twntacles
    @Twntacles 3 місяці тому +1

    4:13 the data book has been translated into french ( i speak french ) and in it it says this "usually a technique only has one ability, but this one is an exception by having 2, it distinguishes itself by its power but also it's particularity, the target is instantly dismembered, cut into pieces and incinerated, only a small amount of adversaries can survive a technique like this." so maybe its some sort of finisher move, bc the only times we've seen him use it was at the end of the fight, reminds me of cremating a body tbh

  • @MonoSDXC
    @MonoSDXC 3 місяці тому +4

    7:30 Ooooh, so kinda like a 'CT hammerspace'?
    I would actually prefer if this was the case, rather than if he had full control over the process that we refer to as the 'black box'.
    Maybe how he gained his additional arms, eyes, and mouth were thanks to a CT that reshapes the soul like Mahito's idle transfiguration, but with obvious limitations.
    For eg. The process of reshaping the soul itself could be very slow with this CT, and there could also be a potential 'cooldown' to it as well.
    These limitations could be because of the CT itself, binding vows, or a potential 'nerf' that happens to CTs that he gains,
    with how he does so potentially playing a part in the 'nerf' that they receive.
    A hypothetical binding vow that Sukuna could've made here is one that allows him to consistently recreate his Heian-era body,
    whilst losing some other perks of this makeshift idle transfiguration CT.
    And assuming that he gains someone's CT by eating them as you said at 8:53,
    Uraume might know how to prepare these people as 'meals' in a way that makes it so that there either aren't any,
    or are very minimal limitations imposed onto the CTs after Sukuna gains them.
    And yeah, *YOU COOKED!*

  • @webslinger793
    @webslinger793 3 місяці тому

    You absolutely cooked. It's just so peak.
    Amazing theory backed by character design hints. It also explains why Yuji didn't get the slicing technique of Sukuna yet.

  • @thesarcasticliberal
    @thesarcasticliberal 3 місяці тому +1

    Basically, Sukuna is evil Yuta, only he uses Shrine instead of Rika to hold the techniques he stores. This would also track with how they get their copied abilities, as Yuta has Rika eat a part of the enemy to gain their technique (eg. Sukuna's 20th finger or Uro's arm), while Sukuna just eats them himself. It's also possible that Sukuna started out with a similar level of cursed energy as Yuta, but he ate so many sorcerers that his raw power increased to the level he is today. Finally, it's possible that Sukuna is compensating for not having a Shikigami to store his techniques by using a binding vow that lets him use Cleave/Dismantle naturally, while every other technique requires him to select from the Shrine to use.

  • @purple-47
    @purple-47 3 місяці тому +1

    4:11 I feel a good guess on what the black box is, is just a form of changing Cursed Energy, like making stretched out so thin that it ca cut anything or compressing it till it explodes into flames.

  • @PhoenixAce
    @PhoenixAce 3 місяці тому +2

    Until the end of time I will maintain the idea that Sukuna has Copy and Fuga is like Rika and holds his Cts

  • @just4universe219
    @just4universe219 3 місяці тому

    You cooked a meal better than Uraume ever could. Great vid

  • @everdream4200
    @everdream4200 3 місяці тому +3

    My personal theory is that it's a lot like Ino's CT. Ino can invoke different phenomenon with his CT and Sukuna can do the same.
    Sukuna has 4 powers in my theory. The first is cleave (dismantle is a off shoot of cleave).
    The second is fire. The third is water and the forth is his ability to eat.
    It's a kitchen so Sukuna must prepare the meat. Cleave. Then he must clean the meat. Water. Then boil the meat. Fire. Then eat the meat.
    Evil Kitchen. That's why i prefer the translation of Malevolent Kitchen over Shrine but this is just my guess.

  • @lucasguerreiro1956
    @lucasguerreiro1956 3 місяці тому

    You're the best Jjk content creator. Keep with the good work dude, you're awesome.

  • @mia_luca
    @mia_luca 3 місяці тому +2

    with the inspiration from fate, this makes more sense, Gilgamish power is pretty much that same, many weapons, yet he throws swords (slashes)

  • @Jesus.christ.your.bro.
    @Jesus.christ.your.bro. 3 місяці тому

    You could also use his domain to support the cooking theory as it’s a storage with the entrances as mouths like a stomach related to eating

  • @aquabi1239
    @aquabi1239 2 місяці тому +4

    this dude guess it 💀💀

  • @football360_slik
    @football360_slik 3 місяці тому

    You cooked hard🔥

  • @JewelRunner007
    @JewelRunner007 3 місяці тому +1

    this man is on the money

  • @SassyPest
    @SassyPest 3 місяці тому +6

    What bugs me is that Yuta didn't have access to Black Box, suggesting that Sukuna's CT is solely composed of dismantle and cleave, so it may probably be a whole different cursed technique

    • @jackasaw9750
      @jackasaw9750 2 місяці тому

      Dismantle is definitely just his innate technique. Cutting up his enemies and eating them for their technique. Yuta probably couldn’t copy stored techniques.

    • @yaker9059
      @yaker9059 2 місяці тому

      @@jackasaw9750which lends more credence to the possibility of him knowing about the outline of his soul to form his heian form, and that black box/shrine might be insight gained via the soul, evolving his CT

    • @fhadilnahal9556
      @fhadilnahal9556 2 місяці тому

      My guess is that yuta doesn't have a control and choice which CT to copy this is the first time for him to copy somebody with multiples CT.
      Also the one who eat is rika after all i don't think she know what CT is good to copy lol.

  • @prajjwaltiwari8644
    @prajjwaltiwari8644 3 місяці тому +2

    What you cooked goes really well with the theory that Sukuna had a twin. Either that twin was HRed or Sukuna himself was. (His dire want to prove to Maki that honing your Jujutsu skill is better than honing your body

  • @danzodavis741
    @danzodavis741 3 місяці тому +1

    I have a theory that has already been explored. Sukuna's cursed technique may be based on the culinary arts, he might be the ability to learn and replicate any technique related to cursed energy, similar to how a chef might learn and replicate various recipes. This interpretation highlights Sukuna's versatility and adaptability in combat,
    During fights with CT users, Sukuna seems to analyze and dissect his opponents' curse techniques, possibly with the intention of learning and adapting them. Sukuna's ability to learn and perform techniques may involve observing and replicating the flow of cursed energy used by his opponents.
    The Fuga chant is another example (it reminds me of a recipe book) we first see this against the fight jogo. Sukuna seemed to be toying with jogo during the beginning of the fight it was only at the end of the fight where sukuna uses fire arrow maybe he was analyzing the flow of jogos CE and sukuna being a natural talent when it come to CE manipulation was able to refine it.
    Another example of this is his fight with gojo, where he literally used mahoraga as a blueprint for his world cutting slash

    • @ManganimistYT
      @ManganimistYT  2 місяці тому

      Danzo thank you so much for the support man! I talk about your comment in this video here: ua-cam.com/video/KS_BQx6axtE/v-deo.html

  • @ronaldmjmr
    @ronaldmjmr 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm just in awe about your interpretations... Right now I'm more of a fan of you interpreting the manga... Than the manga itself... 😅😅😅

  • @fabrizioart1928
    @fabrizioart1928 2 місяці тому

    Btw the italian localization calls Malevolent Shrine "Reliquiario Demoniaco" (Demonic Reliquiary/relic vault) which is very apt for the storage idea

  • @adamgbk1
    @adamgbk1 2 місяці тому +1

    I think his cursed technique is “binding will” this would make the distinction between cleave and dismantle more obvs cleave is the amplification by literally producing 2 “binding points” the space between those two points is cleaved open and dismantle is the rtc of his innate technique much like gojos “red” with this technique it’s far easier to attack a wide area as the inverse of binding is cutting. I substantiate this with the revelation that yuji could only use the technique after a period in which he learned how to use rct and that domain expansions take after the innate technique over any sort of skill based technique you derive from your innate one basically if his innate technique is binding it would make sense that his DE was a shrine because a shrine could be seen as bondage for the divine in a sense as a result sukuna can use binding to do a full All For One and just yank out your technique and enshrine it

  • @pizzaman4352
    @pizzaman4352 2 місяці тому

    This was exactly my idea when I first saw that scene in the manga.

  • @aldohiciano1099
    @aldohiciano1099 3 місяці тому +1

    I think that because Sukuna’s knowledge about the soul When eating people He’s also consuming the soul since the soul and the body are the same and adding that to his own soul. Gaining the possibility to morphed in the way he is now. That’s why he has a bigger storage for curse energy and also could be the reason why jacob’s ladder didn’t work that much during Yuta’s domain. Because he ate part of Angels soul(arms) and she couldn’t recover them, that’s why his more resisten to the technique now.

  • @archy1702
    @archy1702 3 місяці тому +2

    What if his technique works similar to ten shadows, at the beginning he only has cleave and dismantle which he can use any time but he has to get other techniques somehow and to active them he needs to chant "open" so he can get them out of storage/shrine

  • @MrGandymanjr
    @MrGandymanjr 2 місяці тому

    On the topic of Sukuna loving to eat, during the Mahoraga fight he’s eating popcorn and hates it so it makes sense he’s a food connoisseur.

  • @mjm6792
    @mjm6792 2 місяці тому +1

    A few things (I'm bout to spout off so excuse me if I start yappin)
    1. I think you are pretty much on point regarding the specific idea of the "Shrine" technique.
    2. Techniques may be hereditary, but they are not originally genetic mutations.
    This is something of a pet theory of mine so bear with me for a sec. One of the first things we learn about Jujutsu comes from Sukuna, It's that binding vows are important and almost everything about Jujutsu follows from how this kind of equivalent exchange system works. They may be old, but techniques are likely just products of very particular, multilayered binding vows, and genetic inheritance of certain aspects of brain chemistry may have been popular as conditions that allowed these techniques to exist.
    Think of it like Hatsu in HunterxHunter. Powerful Hatsu can't exist without setting a restrictive precondition (or even several as with Chrollo's Bandit's Secret) to their usage. Similarly, most techniques in JJK are bound in their usage in very specific ways. Barring everything about barriers and domains being basically one giant extrapolation from this concept: the construction technique's extra energy cost, the ten shadows' shadow storage weight condition, even the limitless' uselessness without the six eyes on top of only one person being able to have the six eyes at a time, ever, etc. My theory is that every technique in JJK was originally a complex, multilayered binding vow made by one person and part of those many conditions were likely that anyone with a specific brain chemistry (a trait often inherited in families) could use the technique, or that only so many people can have the technique, or maybe that anyone who kills or eats the user can develop the technique.
    All this comes back to something key about Sukuna which we can extrapolate from both this theory and Kenjaku's explanation of his retaining of the techniques of his previous vessels, Sukuna's storage cannot be very large or contain some ridiculous number of abilities. In fact, it is very likely that part of the binding vow allowing the "Shrine" Technique to exist is a very specific restriction on the kinds of abilities it can contain.
    This raises the conundrum that Yuta Okkotsu may be an especially unique case, being able to store so many techniques, though that may be a product of the restrictiveness of the binding vow around his curse copying technique, whose conditions are: at least, that the window of time he is limited to for their use is very small (just 5 minutes with rest) as it's bound to Rika's full manifestation and the restriction of his access to his full cursed energy and any of the copied techniques outside of that time also contributes.
    Sukuna can call on the several aspects of the technique with just a chant, if that. It seems a lot less restrictive meaning the condition has to be something else, or there's something about the way it works which we're not seeing, and I think it's the former.
    3. This is the best JJK video I've seen yet on this platform.

  • @user-if3cj1uf3d
    @user-if3cj1uf3d 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi! Thank you once more for such a cool content you making!
    Unlike many, I really enjoy the last chapters of the manga where everyone work together, trying to joinly defeat the sukuna. The one I'm missing for the full picture is Hakari - but unfortunately he's busy with Uraume. I would really like to see Uraume fight too, but there is one thing that's been running through my head.
    Since we know that Hakari's domain is very fast and strong due to its unlethal properties, can we assume that it could overpower Sukuna's domain if Sukuna made it with a barrier. That is, would he have defeated Sukuna in a domain clash or at least been able to compete with him? It seems to me that this could turn out to be a very cool moment if Sukuna decided to lock everyone in his domain (or he could not cast a barrier-free domain at some point), to which Hakari would respond with his mega-fast domain and overpower Sukuna, once again surprising him . Of course, I’m not talking about this as a win condition, just as an interesting fact about Hakari.

    • @user-if3cj1uf3d
      @user-if3cj1uf3d 3 місяці тому

      Just to add: Hakari's domain obviosly wouldn't do anything dangerous to Sukuna but it will be great conterattack to Sukuna's, since when you defeat someone's domain, the person won't be able to use his techique

    • @ManganimistYT
      @ManganimistYT  2 місяці тому +1

      User thank you so much for the support! This is a fantastic thought experiment, check out my answer here: ua-cam.com/video/LKTwD6XdRrY/v-deo.html
      I'd love to know your thoughts on the matter!

  • @Oceanbruhh
    @Oceanbruhh 2 місяці тому

    The fact that yuji learned blood manipulation after the implication that he ate the other death paintings makes extremely convincing.
    But there's still one thing i'm wondering about, and that's why Sukuna said to Jogo "since you're a cursed spirit you wouldn't know about this" when refering to his CT.

  • @shemarjoestar
    @shemarjoestar 3 місяці тому

    Aye you cooked tf up that’s gotta be what it is no cap😂👌🏾

  • @schaAUS
    @schaAUS 3 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for answering my last question, I have another one.
    Puppet Manipulation vs Cursed Corpse (Principal Yaga's technique)
    Which is better?

    • @anuragdas4605
      @anuragdas4605 3 місяці тому +1

      Can i answer your question, Curse Corpse is stronger than Puppet manipulation (maybe you talking about Machamaru's CT) because the Curse corps have it's own will, So they have some 'nagative' thought too, and Nagative things = curse energy , *that's my personal thought about it.

    • @TanvirAhmed-bz2ox
      @TanvirAhmed-bz2ox 3 місяці тому +1

      While mechamaru needs his own CE to use them but yaga can make a army of soilders with their own CE

    • @anuragdas4605
      @anuragdas4605 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TanvirAhmed-bz2ox that's what I am said

    • @ManganimistYT
      @ManganimistYT  3 місяці тому +1

      schaAUS thank you so much for the support! I hope I didn't butcher the pronunciation of your name! you can find your question in my latest video here: ua-cam.com/video/nkplzOgIYow/v-deo.html

  • @princememphis7726
    @princememphis7726 3 місяці тому

    Another point for sukuna and the eatting theme, dismantle (or cleave) can also be translated as "fillet"

  • @Lskillz.12209
    @Lskillz.12209 3 місяці тому +3

    I always thought that the black box was a weaker version of Yuta’s copying ability that only works on cursed spirits, since he uses it against Jogo to copy his disaster flames
    Also would have make sense that Jogo didn’t know about the ability since all the cursed spirits would have been dead from their own attacks
    But now that I look back at it, it doesn’t make any sense

  • @onegaysubject6742
    @onegaysubject6742 2 місяці тому

    The eating bit actual happens once more with yuta! Its hinted at the fact that in order to copy a CT, he or rika have to eat part of that person. Its why sukuna says that Yuta ate his finger when they're fighting. Also happens in his 1v1v1 where rika eats a part of Takako Uro and he seems to only then be able to copy her CT.

  • @sonoancoralbar
    @sonoancoralbar 3 місяці тому

    I think that is something like linear combination, combining CT with CTR u can achieve different things and if u manage to get control on multiple CTs u can combine them adding subtracting and multiplying them

  • @Mizushi-Fuga
    @Mizushi-Fuga 3 місяці тому

    4:35, i kinda noticed the ribs enclosing sukuna's innate domain, looks like the shrine(storage box) in actually inside the stomach, skeletons floating in ocean of blood(stomach fluids with leftovers). basically there's a storage within a storage does it someway connect with the story? also realized the english translation for sukuna's cursed tool "kamutoke" means "chew and melt"

  • @mirachan9217
    @mirachan9217 2 місяці тому

    In the newest chapter yuji can use the shrine too and he's sukunas nephew. Sukuna told jogo that humans would know about his flame arrow because it was famous. He uses his flame arrow against mahoraga too. It'll be awesome if we see yuji use the shrine and get the fire arrow.

  • @xvingar6318
    @xvingar6318 2 місяці тому

    Sukuna says it's a cursed technique. He was able to use it with his domain expansion, it's said you can only use techniques granted by the domain like your Ct when doing so. In short, Sukuna's technique is shrine like it's been obviously stated but vaguely at the same time, he may have different elements which is why his fire was like nothing seen before. There are most likely other perks like storage, making cursed tools and eating people to increase his cursed energy vastly. Dismantle & cleave may be the air element which is why sorcerers can't see it and it's so fast. It also explains why Maki can see it since we learn her and toji read the air literally to dodge their enemies. We are going to see more of his shrine elements when he finally goes all out.
    It makes even more sense looking back at the domain clashes, Gojo questions why Sukuna doesn't feel pressured using Da with De and wonders if he's use to this. If you say Sukuna really does have shrine with multiple different elements, his comfortable smile against Gojo only using da and the domain hit effect to defend makes a lot more sense. He can still use flames and most likely so much more but Gojo's infinity would block it so he can only use lil of his arsenal if you say he does have shrine. All of the comments of Sukuna holding back would make more sense as well.

  • @10Abyss01
    @10Abyss01 2 місяці тому

    You won another suscriber

  • @TheEric826
    @TheEric826 3 місяці тому

    COOOOOKED!

  • @nitrofog1234
    @nitrofog1234 2 місяці тому +1

    bro CALLED IT

  • @StarFounde7
    @StarFounde7 3 місяці тому

    when you mentioned both his techniques are flame and slashes, it made me realize these techniques are related to cooking in the kitchen. maybe his whole arsenal are tools used in cooking.

  • @raiukos
    @raiukos 3 місяці тому

    really like this idea, it adds up why some default slash technique user could be so powerful

  • @godloared
    @godloared 3 місяці тому +1

    The best guess that I have is that CrunchyRoll translation was correct and his technique IS malevolent kitchen. And he just uses whatever can be found in kitchen. Like Fire, Knives, Eating etc.

  • @Marcusaurelius_a
    @Marcusaurelius_a 2 місяці тому

    To backpack off Sukuna’s technique foreshadowing he ALSO addresses Rika as “Queen of Curses,” which can elude to her being the strongest curse but also the nature of how she ALSO stores techniques for Yuta by eating some part of them. Might of been a little nod to her potential.

  • @mxmtch6619
    @mxmtch6619 2 місяці тому

    You should make a follow up video tying this idea to how Yuji is able to use multiple techniques. Now that we know they are related, Yuji is probably able to use multiple techniques because he also has a "shrine" curse technique

  • @jonarhax3388
    @jonarhax3388 3 місяці тому +1

    Ngl it sounds very convincing that sukuna's technique revolves around a literal restaurant kitchen, and that's why he likes uraume, because uraume is also a cook

  • @reyscesenevara1791
    @reyscesenevara1791 2 місяці тому +2

    HE COOKED