Which Weapon Type Should I Be Using for DPS? | Update 39 Breakdown

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  • @skinnycheeks
    @skinnycheeks  Рік тому +17

    Thanks for watching! Hopefully this video helped to understand the weapon changes a bit better! Join the discord for further discussion: discord.gg/F3Zd2ZzJNh

  • @OUmSKILLS
    @OUmSKILLS Рік тому +43

    After hearing about Nefas, I'm grateful Skinny is still here providing great videos for the detail oriented ESO players 🙌

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому +16

      Excited for update 40 news, just right around the corner!

    • @LTHEGRIFFTAH
      @LTHEGRIFFTAH Рік тому

      What happened to nefas?

    • @RJrules64
      @RJrules64 Рік тому +5

      Nefas never made detailed videos like this. I like his channel but let’s be real most of his videos he just reads the forum to us verbatim and offers his off the cuff thoughts

  • @UaintDoxinme
    @UaintDoxinme Рік тому +11

    Thanks I needed this type of video. Good to know that non dual wield isn't as bad as I thought

  • @jadedj5385
    @jadedj5385 Рік тому +6

    Looking forward to trying out Point Blank Snipe with the bow changes. I really really want them to add at least a few crossbow style pages for the bow.

  • @andrewmicallef9679
    @andrewmicallef9679 Рік тому +12

    From what i understood, weapons are at an all time closeness in comparison to one another, and we can now switch between melee and ranged , and different types of melee and different ranged based not only on situation, but also on preference. This is pretty great!

  • @pete6327
    @pete6327 Рік тому +1

    Was just trying to figure it by myself when your video popped. Thank you, this answered all my questions!

  • @WolfKriegerEsq
    @WolfKriegerEsq Рік тому +4

    This is a really informative, and therefore helpful, video. Top notch and to the point as always.

  • @EgaoKage
    @EgaoKage Рік тому +1

    I love "cooking" my Lethal Arrow's cast-time within the charge-time of my Heavy Attacks. With both of them hitting within a fraction of a second from one another, most basic mobs will appear to be one-shot. And it takes maybe 3-4 cycles of just this combo to drop most elite mobs. Of course, that's with Swamp Raiders & Stygian and coming out of stealth / using Shadowy Disguise to cheese the Stygian buff. When you use Lethal Arrow (or anything with that 0.8 sec cast time) this way, you'll never have to worry about sustain. This video was encouraging! Nice to see things finally balancing-out, at least in this respect.

  • @RyanIsIffy
    @RyanIsIffy Рік тому +2

    Awesome like always, now I got somewhere to point them when I get asked. Thanks Skinny!

  • @morvanofficial
    @morvanofficial Рік тому +1

    Great video as always, thanks!

  • @JamesOKeefe-US
    @JamesOKeefe-US Рік тому +1

    Always appreciate your content SC!!

  • @motsy15
    @motsy15 Рік тому

    Great info! Thanks for all the work!

  • @jessicaMApiano
    @jessicaMApiano Рік тому +1

    I’ve been trying to work on my nightblade. Your last video on them was 3yr ago. I know they’ve been nerfed a lot but I wonder if you were gonna do a video on the nightblade class soon…

  • @Scaryflocka
    @Scaryflocka 10 місяців тому

    Hello. So "ruffian" passive from dual-wield applies to any damage skill as long as I'm wearing dual wield weapons? Or it only gives me 15% more dmage on my dual wield skills? How does it work? Thanks!!

  • @michellepartridge8558
    @michellepartridge8558 Рік тому

    It's nice that the numbers are close enough you can use the weapon you prefer.

  • @leobaez1393
    @leobaez1393 Рік тому

    Very very nice videos bro, congratulations and ty

  • @owzzy135
    @owzzy135 Рік тому

    Very informative, as always. Thanks, SC!

  • @pklemming
    @pklemming Рік тому

    Was surprised to see bow so high on stamarc. Doubt I will switch off daggers, but nice to know.

  • @Siberiasun2
    @Siberiasun2 Рік тому

    i've been having a ton of fun using the vate bow since the changes XD

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому

      Yeah I’ve seen some DK setups with it that hit really hard.

  • @Aaedmazen
    @Aaedmazen Рік тому +1

    Question: I’m kinda very new to the whole end-game and min-maxing the chars so I wanna ask, I use a magika Templar and a lightning staff but I reaaaallly wanna try different weapon types. Would it be… bad or stupid if I switch to a bow or Dual Wield for my Templar, for example? Not sure how weapons work with specific class types.

    • @eliasloomas1640
      @eliasloomas1640 Рік тому

      No bro you can litteraly use anything you want my dude

  • @ZweiFass4
    @ZweiFass4 Рік тому +1

    Awsome video thats extermly well explaind

  • @naplzt4k
    @naplzt4k Рік тому +7

    wish Zos would stop nerfing things and buffing others....there was no need to nerf melee weapons 👎

    • @T-REXMACHINEGUN
      @T-REXMACHINEGUN Рік тому +1

      Considering they out preformed everything by a decent amount I think they did but zos should have instead buffed the other weapons to be equal to melee.

  • @0Chill
    @0Chill Рік тому

    Thanks for the info!

  • @Rolandais
    @Rolandais 10 місяців тому

    Great Video, though you could've just started out by saying. "If you're here looking for the best frontbar, the answer is to just pick the one you like most, and play best." Sometimes, just putting the information in the front, is great, I'd totally have given this a thumbs up if you did more frontloading, and less waiting until the last minute to give conclusions ^_^

  • @MikeBeltMikeBelt
    @MikeBeltMikeBelt Рік тому

    I have DW on my stam Arcanist front bar, and it just seems that it really depends on maybe the style you want, basically? Flame is best but by not much?

  • @forever9409
    @forever9409 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video. I'm playing a magicka nightblade so I won't spam Lethal Arrow because it's stamina based. In the situation, is the bow still stronger than staff in range fight?

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому +1

      Depends on the fight and how you are setup. It could be. But could be setups where lightning is better too

  • @ravenhawk3758
    @ravenhawk3758 Рік тому +1

    Question. Is there a difference between having a bow on front bar vs back bar? I'm new to learning about stats.

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому +3

      Front bar is just where you spend more of your time. Backbar is where you generally have a few dots/utility abilities.

    • @ravenhawk3758
      @ravenhawk3758 Рік тому

      @@skinnycheeks thank you

  • @kam1lq
    @kam1lq Рік тому

    As always great job!

  • @KpK1Cioby
    @KpK1Cioby Рік тому

    have you ever tried doing dual wield vateshan? It hits like a truck on necro especially on execute and I would be curious what happens when someone that actually knows how to parse does

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому

      Yeah I like that set on my Stam sorc too. I haven’t played Cro in a while

  • @mamess7185
    @mamess7185 Рік тому

    Would a pet sorc benefit from lightning or flame staff more?

  • @bademeister_sam4105
    @bademeister_sam4105 Рік тому +3

    i don't know, for my liking the damage-potential difference between ranged and melee weapons is to small.
    if I give up the savety and consistency of ranged weapons and go melee focused I should be rewarded with a bigger damage increase.

  • @DaddySadiist
    @DaddySadiist Рік тому

    Would using a wood elf boost bow damage like in other elder scrolls games or do they only affect how fast you level the bow skills?

    • @ArkAngelRonin
      @ArkAngelRonin Рік тому +1

      Wood Elf passives only help level your Bow Skills faster.

  • @moodydunmer910
    @moodydunmer910 Рік тому

    Would it be worth trying precise rather than charged on duel wield for arcanist? I'm at 113k in ma Lizard but its very close to 114k so I'd like to know if precise may help, thank yooooooouuuu

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому +1

      They are each better in diff scenarios. If you mean on the dummy, charged is generally better there. Usually a bit better for single target dmg when your blade cloak is getting all its ticks off to proc your enchantments

    • @moodydunmer910
      @moodydunmer910 Рік тому

      @skinnycheeks okay, sweet, thank you loads. This updates personally been good for my arcanist!

  • @Gandalf-zd1gi
    @Gandalf-zd1gi Рік тому +1

    I see you rating end game weapons, I’m sure veterans player pretty much know this. I think you should rate weapons at starting to end game weapons to be fair. Good content skinny, keep it up.

    • @feralomen
      @feralomen Рік тому +1

      For most part this all translates to beginner setups. Just remove any Arena Weapons and mimic the setup without one. The problem is that there are no "special weapons" for new players to care about, its same weapon choices just seen in your full 5 piece. For example they might pick up BSW/Sorrow. This would likely be Sorrow on body and BSW weapons. Backbar BSW Fire with Fire Wall, and Frontbar Bow/Daggers/Lightning. If they put a Fire Glyph on front then between back and Frontbar they can eadily proc BSW.

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! But yeah as feralomen said, there really isn’t anything more to compare for “starting” setups. And these arena weapons can be earned on normal difficulties which you can do very early on! Hope that helps

  • @nemesis7884
    @nemesis7884 Рік тому

    for arcanist charged is probably nice due to passives

  • @jokerlo87
    @jokerlo87 Рік тому

    So wouldn't the lighting staff benifts the arc better than dw?

  • @Ho0pxr
    @Ho0pxr Рік тому

    Im gonna reverse my current set up on my arc and see how that goes. Inferno front bar and black rose backbar so i can keep deadly cloak. If that evens itself out while letting me go range on top of it. Super worth it.

    • @KadeshEU
      @KadeshEU Рік тому

      I agree. With this setup, you get to keep the Major Evasion, and the 6% damage boost & reduction from BRP, while getting frontbar enchant and ulti gen procs from light attacks even at range. I suspect that dual staves (Maelstrom backbar) is better for AOE though.

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому

      Just make sure if you do that, you are hitting something with that cloak every 2s or your buff will fall off.

    • @Ho0pxr
      @Ho0pxr Рік тому

      @@skinnycheeks thank you sir cheeks. Always coming in with the clutch info

  • @Managarm1999
    @Managarm1999 Рік тому

    i tried this update to use the Lightning staff on Magplar but i always ended with like 10k less DPS how is that possible if the % only shows like 1-3% dmg loss compared to daggers? i think the loss of the 780 WD is so much higher than some % of my dmg boosted by 12%

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому

      Did you watch the full video, or did you just skip through and look at the comparison numbers?

    • @Managarm1999
      @Managarm1999 Рік тому

      @@skinnycheeks i did watched the whole video but i probably missed something because my english is not that great

  • @NeoGaymer
    @NeoGaymer Рік тому

    So does it mean bow bow builds are now viable in vet dlc trials now even if tanks and healers wear support sets that dont buff bows?
    I currently run 2h stamsorc but some fights i need to have some range. Thats why im asking

    • @GeneChiu
      @GeneChiu Рік тому +1

      Even before U39, I have a bow/bow stam warden that I use on vet DLC trials. I use it particularly in vCR because you have to attack a number of targets at range. My prog group does request that we all have a range build we can bring in for certain trials or load out we can switch to in some fights. Personally, I find I do better with ranged builds in content than melee builds. More of a personal thing for me in that I just feel a bit more comfortable when I have better ranged capability.

    • @NeoGaymer
      @NeoGaymer Рік тому

      @@GeneChiugreat. Btw can u name the trials that you are required to bring ranged DDs?

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому

      They’ve already been viable for a while and even have been the best option for some fights.

    • @NeoGaymer
      @NeoGaymer Рік тому +1

      @@skinnycheeks nice. I got another question , can i replace endless hail with another skill that has a 20 second duration? What skill would u recommend? How much the dps loss would be at highest parse levels?
      I want to keep my rotation static and enless hail not having 20 sec duration ruins it. Btw i use masters bow backbar

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому +1

      @@NeoGaymer you have to keep endless hail or arrow barrage cause that’s the only skill that will keep your weapon dmg enchantment going when you are on the other bar.

  • @XxSgtSkittlesxX
    @XxSgtSkittlesxX Рік тому

    So would 2 builds for stamplar be dual wield FB and VMA 2H backwards for melee, and bow/bow for range?

    • @TheHeavyMetalMan11
      @TheHeavyMetalMan11 Рік тому

      I use dual wield on FB and maelstorm bow on backbar. still works very good. endless hail aoe is great in pve

    • @ArkAngelRonin
      @ArkAngelRonin Рік тому

      I still use Dual Wield Front Bar and 2Handed VMA Greatsword Back Bar, and still hit above 100k+ DPS as an Imperial. I sometimes swap to VMA Bow for different scenarios, like Castle Thorn, where you cannot target Lady Thorn when she floats around with Stampede.

  • @VampguyN85
    @VampguyN85 Рік тому

    As long as stamina dps uses sword and board and fire staff, we're good. 😅

  • @shawnberry760
    @shawnberry760 8 місяців тому

    More love for wood elves!

  • @kagehyo67
    @kagehyo67 Рік тому

    Is lightning staff heavy attack considered a channel?

  • @catzel1ps452
    @catzel1ps452 Рік тому

    Why does poison + flame do more damage than say poison glyph + lethal arrow? Doesn't it stack and do 2 poison dots?

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому

      Nope. Poisoned is a named effect and you can’t have two going at once

    • @catzel1ps452
      @catzel1ps452 Рік тому

      @skinnycheeks thats interesting I could have sworn I remember seeing 2 dots when using poison glyph on my nightblades lethal hmm. Was a long time ago tho. Is there a benefit of fire vs say shock glyph on lethal? I'm thinking more for like ganking burst 🤔

    • @catzel1ps452
      @catzel1ps452 Рік тому

      @skinnycheeks actually while we on the topic , I've always been curious about oblivion enchant? Is that just not as good as the others ?

    • @catzel1ps452
      @catzel1ps452 Рік тому

      @skinnycheeks 💀 sorry for so many questions but now you got me thinking lol, does that mean I should not be using a shock glyph on my lightning staff? 😅

    • @MashMalloman
      @MashMalloman Рік тому

      ​​@@catzel1ps452this video is from the perspective of PvE DPS, not PvP. Skinny is a PvE player, so keep that context in mind.
      Enchants (outside Oblivion) all do the same damage, the status effects are different.
      Burning deals the most DPS over 4 seconds.
      Poisoned deals slightly less DPS, but lasts 6 seconds.
      Those 2 status effects are always just the best options for straight DPS, when you're thinking about PvP it gets more complicated and nuanced.
      Hemorrhaging (Bleed DMG) is also a 4s dot, deals the least DPS of the dots, however it reduces your enemies HP by 10%.
      The last 5 regular damage types all deal the exact same DMG, they're all upfront direct, instead of dot, so lower DPS, but added effects. The effects are all 4s long.
      Concussed (Shock DMG) also gives +5% damage done.
      Chilled (Frost DMG) also reduces their damage by 5%.
      Diseased (Disease DMG) reduces healing taken and HP Regen.
      Sundered (physical DMG) reduces armor by 3k.
      Overcharged (magic DMG) applies minor Magicka steal.
      Lastly, you have Oblivion damage. This is only ever useful for PVP and is primarily used to counter tanks because it scales based on their health and deals true DMG. Meaning, it works through shields, can't crit, but can't be mitigated either.

  • @The_Forseti
    @The_Forseti Рік тому

    I have been using bow front bar in my vSE group and it feels very good.

  • @Envars
    @Envars Рік тому

    Nice video 😊

  • @Steven-cr8ju
    @Steven-cr8ju 11 місяців тому

    Yiu mntioned staff "cleave damage." What is that?

  • @niandralades3185
    @niandralades3185 Рік тому +2

    basically what you sayn is all weapons are great just get gud innit

  • @madangel7833
    @madangel7833 Рік тому +2

    Жаль что русскоязычных каналах нет такой информации.

  • @torinn3618
    @torinn3618 Рік тому

    does oakensoul boost the fire staff heavy attack dot?

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому

      It’s just a DoT like any other skill. So it gets boosted in the way any other skill would.

  • @BundaZehart
    @BundaZehart Рік тому

    Thank You for superuseful video.

  • @qjo5158
    @qjo5158 Рік тому +1

    I am Jon snow I know nothing, this is beyond my paygrade 😅

  • @antihero8603
    @antihero8603 Рік тому

    Nice.

  • @SilverWF
    @SilverWF Рік тому +3

    hybridisation sucks
    why I should use 2w if I am mage?

    • @skinnycheeks
      @skinnycheeks  Рік тому +2

      You don’t have to if you don’t want to. Personally I love that the option is there but I’m not forced into it.

    • @Tacet137
      @Tacet137 Рік тому

      "You don't have" unless you don't like to intentionally weaken yourself.

  • @imthisguy6847
    @imthisguy6847 Рік тому +1

    What game it dis 🤔😳

  • @snowleopard9907
    @snowleopard9907 Рік тому

    Poor greatswords

    • @rayray0987
      @rayray0987 Рік тому

      Ideally, they do the most damage: when there are 4 enemies clumped up for forceful passives. It essentially can do 4x the light attack damage of the other weapons. Also carve is a really nice damage skill that can protect you in ways Deadly Cloak can't.

    • @GeneChiu
      @GeneChiu Рік тому +1

      @@rayray0987 Too bad they heavily nerfed light attacks last year. They do half as much damage as they used to.

  • @kassadin4091
    @kassadin4091 Рік тому +2

    Are the cheeks skinny?

    • @Daneuwill
      @Daneuwill Рік тому

      If you must ask, you will not find out

  • @kullinaama
    @kullinaama Рік тому +4

    ´Someone still playing this trash game?

    • @Pharaoh_The_Great
      @Pharaoh_The_Great Рік тому

      Exactly what I was thinking… I’m shocked people are still playing this time waster

    • @Cyrius203
      @Cyrius203 5 місяців тому

      Some dumbasses still watching videos of the thing they hate so they could hate on the people