Friendlyjordies said it best triple js demographic is 35 year olds thinking hey you aren't playing spiderbait anymore or triple j died when they stopped playing silverchair 18 times a day
@@jackko21 See the thing is tha Jordie is a complete wanker. If would have to older than 35 or even my age as those boomer babies Gen X made the Triple super d#shbag plus and everyone though it was cool as dogshit
You nailed it in regards to the music nerd v good vibes. They played the Video Killed The Radio Star like a version a couple of weeks ago and the back announcer made a point that it charted in the 1999 hottest 100, but didn’t say it was a cover. I wondered if she knew it was a cover or thought it was the original. Gflips alright, their album was okay. I thought apart from maybe the track ‘Kevin’, lyrically it was pretty bland. Overall it wasn’t bad, I thought Owusu’s record was much more ambitious and engaging. I’m not too fearful that the new people with commercial brains will make things worse (I guess, where else are you going to get experienced people in radio from?). I hope they will have the knowledge on how to attract the younger audience which seems to be eluding them, I hope they don’t lose the music nerd element too much, maybe that will become more of a Double J thing…
I think triple J and the Australian market is a really good pulse test when looking at the broader international scene as a whole. I really feel like pre-internet their were two distinctive music scenes, the pop market and the alternative market. There was enough money generated from album sales that both could exist, even sub genres within the alternative market were able to flourish. But post the internet/downloading/streaming, the money has been sucked out of the mainstream music industry, labels were forced to pivot, and music really moved into an "experience" market. The lines between the two different markets blurred. All of a sudden there was this influx of artists that straddled both sides of the coin. Kanye West, Frank Ocean, Lorde, Drake, it become ironically cool to like taylor swift, Beyonce headlining coachella, more recently artists like Olivia Rodriguez, Harry Styles etc etc. At the smaller Australian level, the labels mirrored this with artists like G flip and Tones and I. These artists appeal on the mainstream level, but also make hipsters feel like they are a part of an organic movement through outlets like triple J and festival culture (splendour/falls festival etc etc). Personally I think its ridiculous that there is a tax funded national radio which essentially does the bidding of large multinational labels and events organisers, they have completely lost the purpose of what triple J was originally intended for. You mention male bands with guitars and distortion, and yes, there has obviously been a concerted effort to remove any music which has any sort of of testosterone based energy, but its broader then than that. I always use Hiatus kayiote as an example of this. Australian band, Female led, neo soul, highly technical, ridiculous musicianship, internationally recognised and worshipped (particularly by producers and artists in the states), easily the most proficient and artistically amazing band Australia has produced in the last decade, yet triple J prefer to shove generic shit like G flip down peoples throats. There just isn't enough space from a business perspective to try and make music listeners actually have to think/comprehend proper alternative options and Triple J seem more then happy to oblige. In the states there is still enough of a market for alternative options, I love listening to KEXP live online. If you miss that feeling of listening to old school pre 2007ish J's, I highly recommend it!
Same age as you, turning 30 this year I am just putting it down to getting old, I’m sure 18-22 year olds are enjoying JJJ as much as I did when I was that age I agree with your other points but at the end of the day just let kids be kids and enjoy dancing on TikTok(I’ve never even downloaded the app) and whatever
Men in 18-22 catergory arent into triple j as much as they once were and it has skewed the voting. The demographics have shifted and that had resulted in the polling results. I have noticed that many young guys i know have the following music tastes: Aussie underground hip hop Particular genres of edm from overseas or local club dj's Local rock/heavy metal/screamo music Rock music from 80s-2010 Or also they dont care for music that much and listen to podcasts or sports talk back radio
There is absolutely no way you can tell me G-flip is in the same echelon as the other artists with most songs in the count. It’s a damning sight of modern political correctness ruining what once was a great station
My opinion on G Flip is the complete opposite of yours - About You is the best song they've ever done, and since then they've been more focused on "selling out" than making music (every single song on Drummer sounds exactly like the one before)
I first listened to Triple J about 10 years ago and honestly it all seemed to be filled with unimaginative, boring music without a message. I doubt many young people who are genuinely into music bother to tune in. Much easier to find good new music, including Australian stuff, on UA-cam
There is 1 radio station that play this type of music, and it's JJJ. Granted it's nothing compared to 90's early 2000's, but it's still better than TRFM and ALL those garbage radio stations, that promote, and spew out talantless pop artist after talentless pop artist. So, why can't we just have 1 radio station, without it being infultarted by the commercial, mainstream hounds.
Great video! Triple J is insufferable. I have been a listener for a decade, and never have the hosts been so boring, yet so infuriatingly annoying. It feels like the whole station is an unfunny Aunty Donna sketch with some 13 yr-old's TikTok playlist jammed in between. It is exactly what you'd expect from a federally funded circus hosted by aloof, millennial Sydney-siders. Triple J has become a parasitic detriment to Australian culture.
You need to listen to FBI. triple j is a joke - the music they play is not Australian. It’s just Australians pretending to make American music. King gizzard just copied off the Oh Sees. The only original voices in Aussie music are barely played - Kirin J Callinan, Liars, Genesis Owusu. I have to disagree though, I think paint the town red deserved the win. It’s a catchy song.
There was once a time where Triple J used to set the tone, now it just echoes whatever trend.
Friendlyjordies said it best triple js demographic is 35 year olds thinking hey you aren't playing spiderbait anymore or triple j died when they stopped playing silverchair 18 times a day
@@jackko21 See the thing is tha Jordie is a complete wanker. If would have to older than 35 or even my age as those boomer babies Gen X made the Triple super d#shbag plus and everyone though it was cool as dogshit
You nailed it in regards to the music nerd v good vibes. They played the Video Killed The Radio Star like a version a couple of weeks ago and the back announcer made a point that it charted in the 1999 hottest 100, but didn’t say it was a cover. I wondered if she knew it was a cover or thought it was the original.
Gflips alright, their album was okay. I thought apart from maybe the track ‘Kevin’, lyrically it was pretty bland. Overall it wasn’t bad, I thought Owusu’s record was much more ambitious and engaging.
I’m not too fearful that the new people with commercial brains will make things worse (I guess, where else are you going to get experienced people in radio from?). I hope they will have the knowledge on how to attract the younger audience which seems to be eluding them, I hope they don’t lose the music nerd element too much, maybe that will become more of a Double J thing…
Triple J is turning into a parody of Triple J
I dought it will but my hopes is they go back to playing underground music and some metal like i hope they bring back 3 hours of power
You're right. The gender ratios have really G Flipped a lot.
I think triple J and the Australian market is a really good pulse test when looking at the broader international scene as a whole. I really feel like pre-internet their were two distinctive music scenes, the pop market and the alternative market. There was enough money generated from album sales that both could exist, even sub genres within the alternative market were able to flourish. But post the internet/downloading/streaming, the money has been sucked out of the mainstream music industry, labels were forced to pivot, and music really moved into an "experience" market. The lines between the two different markets blurred. All of a sudden there was this influx of artists that straddled both sides of the coin. Kanye West, Frank Ocean, Lorde, Drake, it become ironically cool to like taylor swift, Beyonce headlining coachella, more recently artists like Olivia Rodriguez, Harry Styles etc etc. At the smaller Australian level, the labels mirrored this with artists like G flip and Tones and I. These artists appeal on the mainstream level, but also make hipsters feel like they are a part of an organic movement through outlets like triple J and festival culture (splendour/falls festival etc etc). Personally I think its ridiculous that there is a tax funded national radio which essentially does the bidding of large multinational labels and events organisers, they have completely lost the purpose of what triple J was originally intended for. You mention male bands with guitars and distortion, and yes, there has obviously been a concerted effort to remove any music which has any sort of of testosterone based energy, but its broader then than that. I always use Hiatus kayiote as an example of this. Australian band, Female led, neo soul, highly technical, ridiculous musicianship, internationally recognised and worshipped (particularly by producers and artists in the states), easily the most proficient and artistically amazing band Australia has produced in the last decade, yet triple J prefer to shove generic shit like G flip down peoples throats. There just isn't enough space from a business perspective to try and make music listeners actually have to think/comprehend proper alternative options and Triple J seem more then happy to oblige. In the states there is still enough of a market for alternative options, I love listening to KEXP live online. If you miss that feeling of listening to old school pre 2007ish J's, I highly recommend it!
Interesting comment. Perhaps I’ve thought some similar things but haven’t been able to put it into words like this.
Same age as you, turning 30 this year
I am just putting it down to getting old, I’m sure 18-22 year olds are enjoying JJJ as much as I did when I was that age
I agree with your other points but at the end of the day just let kids be kids and enjoy dancing on TikTok(I’ve never even downloaded the app) and whatever
Men in 18-22 catergory arent into triple j as much as they once were and it has skewed the voting.
The demographics have shifted and that had resulted in the polling results.
I have noticed that many young guys i know have the following music tastes:
Aussie underground hip hop
Particular genres of edm from overseas or local club dj's
Local rock/heavy metal/screamo music
Rock music from 80s-2010
Or also they dont care for music that much and listen to podcasts or sports talk back radio
There is absolutely no way you can tell me G-flip is in the same echelon as the other artists with most songs in the count. It’s a damning sight of modern political correctness ruining what once was a great station
How popular does an artist have to be to no longer be on triple j?
My opinion on G Flip is the complete opposite of yours - About You is the best song they've ever done, and since then they've been more focused on "selling out" than making music (every single song on Drummer sounds exactly like the one before)
I first listened to Triple J about 10 years ago and honestly it all seemed to be filled with unimaginative, boring music without a message. I doubt many young people who are genuinely into music bother to tune in. Much easier to find good new music, including Australian stuff, on UA-cam
There is 1 radio station that play this type of music, and it's JJJ. Granted it's nothing compared to 90's early 2000's, but it's still better than TRFM and ALL those garbage radio stations, that promote, and spew out talantless pop artist after talentless pop artist. So, why can't we just have 1 radio station, without it being infultarted by the commercial, mainstream hounds.
Great video!
Triple J is insufferable. I have been a listener for a decade, and never have the hosts been so boring, yet so infuriatingly annoying.
It feels like the whole station is an unfunny Aunty Donna sketch with some 13 yr-old's TikTok playlist jammed in between. It is exactly what you'd expect from a federally funded circus hosted by aloof, millennial Sydney-siders.
Triple J has become a parasitic detriment to Australian culture.
You need to listen to FBI. triple j is a joke - the music they play is not Australian. It’s just Australians pretending to make American music. King gizzard just copied off the Oh Sees. The only original voices in Aussie music are barely played - Kirin J Callinan, Liars, Genesis Owusu.
I have to disagree though, I think paint the town red deserved the win. It’s a catchy song.
Pretty silly to complain about an unearthed artist being amateur
I dont mind g-flip. Saw her on modern spicks and specs. She's extremely talented.