Black list hunters would Hisokas field as he’s currently hunting A class criminals. Also this field for hunters would be an instant way to fight strong opponents
That would be the perfect field for Hisoka if he bothered to control himself a bit more....but not every target of him is a criminal. Kastro, Gon (in the long term) among others are not criminals.
Lippo was the only examiner who put actual effort in his trial. Satotz just had the candidates run a marathon, Machi and Buhara just wanted to stuff their mouth, and the bloke from next year's exam left to smoke a cigarette, leaving the candidates to beat eachother up. We don't know anything about him, and we may never see him again, but He has my respect.
@@marcushayes1406 I'm not saying it wasn't hard or that it didn't evaluate a useful skill for a hunter, but it took almost no effort to set up on Satotz part. A ruin hunter could have come up with with something more fitting to his specialization
@@XxInuyashadowxX i get you but he's not trailing ruin hunters he's trialling their basic hunter skills its the first trial to get rid of fodder like the laptop kid/ in the cooking one that's why they was all mad they don't want to be gourmet hunters so the trail isn't fair to them only a person who wanted to be a gourmet hunter would pass their challenge its like basic training they all do it but then you figure out what your going to be as a hunter
There's different standards on test that's why there's different examiners for different standards you may forget there's a board deciding which and who
the cooking hunters wanted to teach them a lesson about their category of hunting, she even participated in the egg grab & it was something to test the candidate’s cunningness. that’s a good test if you ask me she just wanted to make them think & for them to learn a lesson
Saiyu's nen ability is likely inspired by the proverb "See no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil." They are also often represented by 3 monkeys named "Mizaru, Kikazaru, and Iwazaru".
@ramisama88 mizaru is sight as miru 見る means to see, kikazaru is hearing, kiku 聞く (the vocal -a following the base form of the verb in Japanese can introduce the negative form) and iwazaru is for speaking, iu 言う. Considering the word having 2 vowels close, to get the right pronunciation it's necessary to add a consonant with the same function of the u, so iwanai, pronounced as iuanai.
Saiyu ability is definitely derived from a quote from mahatma gandhi 'bura na dekho, bura na bolo, bura na suno' which translated to english means, 'watch no bad, say no bad, hear no bad'
@@MuhammadAlii-tk1cg but then its Still not Originally from Mahatma Gandhi then (who the OP said it was derived from a quote of), who lived in the 20th century.... but an Older Proverb like I said >.>
Kurapika strictly is a mafia criminal, and doesn't have his victims tried and convicted. He's a body parts/treasure hunter and bodyguard, then adopted? Into the crime family.
you don't have to take your victims to trial to be considered a blacklist hunter, you can choose to do that but the hunter license makes you your own authority. for example, melody calls herself a music hunter because she wants to find the sonata of darkness, but i doubt anyone other than kurapika knows that, she'll just find it and destroy it on her own without telling the association or anything. kurapika has no trouble killing cause hunters are legally allowed to kill anyone as long as it's not an inhuman act
@@dalebumpaous1502 Enhancer. Strongest member = that, physical prowess. None of the other members are as durable or as strong as him even nen enhanced. But we all know nen can have weird abilities, so yes, there might be a counter to a physically imposing character such as Uvo, manipulators for example. But for sure Uvo probably has the highest nen capacity of the bunch since he's an enhancer. The character was made to show power, and then got beat by a 1 in a million nen user.
Why is everyone saying Kurapika will be useless against non-spiders? You guys need to rewatch the anime. He is one of the OP characters in HxH. He's strong, smart and meticulous. He will be very difficult to defeat by anyone
@aceclover758 it's never true. Kindly rewatch or read the manga. It's his chain jail that is exclusively for the spiders. He can whip anyone with the chains, use it to block attacks, projectiles etc. He just can't use It to immobilise and force any other opponent into zetsu. He did it so with that condition, so he can properly and permanently immobilise a spider, no matter how strong they are. That is why he started with the strongest spider physically in the person of Uvogin to test his chain strength. Kurapika is a strong nen user. And a smart one at that. He even mastered It over a short period as compared to his contemporaries. Even Hisoka will not provoke him into a fight just for the fun of it. Cos he knows how strong Kurapika is. Remember the lady who interviewed him for the body guard job? Immediately she saw him the 2nd time. She knew kurapika was OP
@@NUELAMOAKOH What I mean is Kurapika’s aura output and power will never be at its peak with a non Troupe member due to Nen being based offf your emotions and impressions What Kurapika fought Uvo with, that will not be the same to a non spider. His aura spikes when he fights a Spider Kurapika is a strong nen use but he isnt ont he level of Hisoka Also Hisoka will not fight him cuz there is no need to. It has nothing to do with strength since what you say is contradictory. Hisoka would want to fight Kurapika by your logic. She didnt “know anything”. She just complimented him on mastering Nen in 6 months, which is what many other talented and more talented people can do that we have seen
@@FanOfMinatozakiSanathat don't make them completely helpless, as experienced fighters, even without their hatsu, they could have put up a fight. I won't argue though, fighting Hisoka even with all of your corresponding abilities is probably a suicide mission for most members of the spider. Especially after his resurrection, that's an almost unwinnable fight even for veteran nen users. If I had to compare him to another character in battle capabilities he would be comparable to Morel and Knov. Morel and Knov have arguably some of the best abilities in HxH.
@@jeffmartinspilatz6114 No abilities, and just the support members as well. Imagine not being combat attuned as the enemy and not having your abilities. Machi could've fared well if he didn't take her by surprise. Just goes to show any master if taken by surprise can be 1 shotted by even the lowest tier users, heck even a gun could handle anybody if given the same chance. Heck, that's what the Gon v Genthru fight was for.
@@kal.asther yes support characters, however, a veteran nen user is still dangerous. Think about it like this. Shalnark could muster an immense amount of nen as seen in his auto pilot mode. Pair that with the fact that as a nen master, he can still use advanced nen application in hand to hand combat. In the same manner that Biscuit taught Gon and Killua. Using the basics efficiently even without your final punch or technique. Manchi vs Hisoka would have been incredibly close but I still think Hisoka would win. His specialty is improvisation and trickery, and it almost killed Chrollo. And yes he did catch her off guard as did Kurapika vs Uvojin. The tide can turn quickly in nen combat and it is what makes HxH my favorite manga/anime
@@jeffmartinspilatz6114 Yes veteran nen user. It's safe to say Shalnark and Kortupi are at the top end of that list, however; Again, they're just not combat attuned. Unlike Phinx, Nobunaga and Uvogin are. Much unlike Hisoka who revels in fighting with a big handicap. So a fight like that was a tad bit unlikely for Hisoka, but I guess it's a given, since he's actual target is just Kuroro himself. I'm sure with 100% of their capabilities, Hisoka would win against most of the Spiders 8/10, with the exception of the combat attuned ones like Phinx, Nobunaga, Uvon, Benolenov, and Franklin. I'd give it a 50/50 on those guys. But he was going after the person with real difficulty to fight like Kuroro who has special abilities that can turn the tide a 100%, he wants that 40/60 handicap in favor of Kuroro, that's why he gave him time to plan and he lost, he'd lose 100% everytime if he keeps on giving him time to plan. And that's why now, he's going after the whole Ryodan, not letting Kuroro plan, but instead his turn to set a trap. Now it's 10/90 in favor of Ryodan, but now he gets to make the terms. so that supposed 10/90 can turn to a close 30/70 to maybe even 40/60 in favor of Ryodans.
Even if he can't use judgement chain on criminals outside the troupe, his latest ability (post anime) fills in for that. Lipo likely has either a similar ability that's instead dependent on his foes crimes or maybe he targets criminals that aren't awakened unlike the troupe and those hired by the mafia, honestly I'd pick the latter too
He still has the other chains and emperor time, he can basically heal, steal abilities, has a way of gathering info and can destroy people's hearts with the knife chain, and the jail chain only deprives people from their nen abilites, his other chains have as much durability.
Early in the succession arc around the chapter 358-363 Mizaistom shows Kurapika a video of the zodiacs meeting while he uses his dowsing ring finger chain to identify liars in the group
Ging is one of the few Dark Continent Hunters to ever lived. And as a matter of fact, we already made a theory about Gon being a child of Ging and someone in the Dark Continent
Agreed, wtf was this video talking about, chrollo is literally one of the most dangerous nen users in HxH as literally listed by the OG himself. I don't even know that other dude's name he wasn't a very strong member by any means.
Uvo wasn't at the bottom in overall power, he fell prey to Kurapika's vengeance, and an anomaly in nen users. A nen user that can use all nen traits at 100 percent under the right circumstances. Uvo single handedly beat 4 veteran nen users, assassins actually. And he did so mostly without using his hands. I would rank him 5th in overall power on a scale of 1-12 1 being the strongest and 12 being the weakest after having seen most of the nen abilities of the troupe.
Lol no… the spider brigade was quite shocked, Uvo was not only very physically strong but also very durable and difficult to wound,, REMIND what the fuck happened when against Mafia elite squad, he was immobilized and still they cannot kill him 😂😂😂
Its not entirely accurate to call Uvogin the "strongest" troupe member, as he's only the strongest when it comes to pure physicality. He's pure violence. The reason it was important that kurapika's chains worked on uvogin is that they forced a state of zetsu. Uvo had the strongest muscles in the troupe and even he couldn't break free
He tanked a Big Bang Impact, that means his Emperor Time gives him a high boost in nen to defend himself. Not most nen users can survive that punch according to Uvon.
Kurapka is op, but he's also weak. He's op only cause of the condition where he can only have such power for only a small group of people. Against any other strong adversary he'd be struggling for sure.
Not true. His scarlet eyes boosts his physical prowess and nen capacity in magnitudes to be able to defend against Big Bang Impact, and with Emperor Time, he's basically flexible enough to catch anybody offguard with unique abilities, and can better any other non enhancers, since he can use 100% of his nen as strength boost.
I doubt he's the strongest. He misses the expirience the others have and that was only the strongest member in brute strength, not fighting ability. Feitan is probably way the hardest to beat.
Kurapika is NOT that strong Even with a nen contract + emperor's time boosting his abilities, he still got his arm crushed by uvogin hitting him 💀 Comparing him to people, who are consistently said to be sparring partners to rusty netero, is like comparing an ant(who needs specific conditions to be strong)to a lion 💀
Maybe not physically. But I doubt anyone can break off his chain, even if they were not Phantom Troupe. Unless it was one of these characters. Netero, Silva, Beyond, Bisky and Dragon Botobai. Seems to be the most physically imposing characters with enough mastery to maybe trump Kurapika's nen enhancement on the chain. Nevertheless there are other ways of winning a nen battle and his ET gives him so much advantage on that part. Also, BBI is like one of the most powerful attacks in HXH we haven't seen anything in comparison outside, Netero's zero and Meruem's immense strength. Getting out of that with just a broken arm just means Kurapika's Scarlet Eye boost is immense.
The phantom troop are vastly overhyped, they were listed as a group that normal hunters wouldn’t go after, that’s it. They literally fought the weakest squadron leader with men, and struggled with peons and like 1-2 officers. People like morel are essentially top of the line hunters, so the initial hype doesn’t have any relevance to them. Outside of hisoka, Illumi, and chrollo who he’s on the general level of, he runs the rest raw. Their main strength is their loyalty and those top 3.
Morel was scared of Illumi, basically the name Zoldyck was enough to make him wet his pants. Zoldycks, Zodiacs and Genei Ryodan, are the cream of the crop in the hunter world. Basically best Assasins, best thieves, best hunters. Morel is just a mid tier hunter. Maybe close to high tier. But obviously not within the league of these three groups. Just think about it. Why did any of the Zodiacs yes even Ging and Netero, chose not to chase them? Because this group is very dangerous. Heck, even Silva and Zeno wasn't sure of Chrollos abilities and quite masterfully deduced that they'd have to die in order to win. In Silva's words "stay away from the phantom troupe". Says alot about this groups ability. Heck Silva can hold his own 1 on 1 with any nen master, but group against group, he knows the PT is a very coordinated, dangerous group. And that's why he said to his sons to stay away from them. They just don't know who would win. A risk Zoldycks clearly make a rule of not taking.
@@kal.asther "intimidated" =/= weaker than, especially when it's tied to the safety of OTHER people you care about. Like yeah, illumi when he's backed by the zoldycks as an institution is very intimidating, even if morel himself could match illumi. There is silva, zeno, the butlers (the old lady is very strong), Maha (arguably the strongest at the house rn), etc, and their resources. "wet his pants" though? Lol Phantom Troupe are literally only scaled to "regular hunters don't take missions typically that involve them" But Morel is an elite one, on the level of the zodiacs. Morel literally while nerfed defeated squadron leader chimera ants that were more specialized accurately to their combat style, this puts him multiple steps over at least half the phantom troupe. And said nerf was literally "I don't have an elite army backing me cuz they were fighting off stronger threats", heck pretty sure he didnt' even have his pipe. The phantom troupe meanwhile depending ont he member were struggling with literally trash mob chimera ants. Ging was doing his own thing. Netero was lightyears above them, like genuinely they die in one hit of his weapon and he can hit them 100 times before they can blink, he literally only went to the chimera ants cuz no one was a match for him even in his nerfed state. "even silva nad zeno" Those are literally multiple tiers weaker than Netero combined, he'd turn them into paste in a fraction of a second. Morel, Hisoka, Silva, Zeno, Illumi, and Chrollo are in the same general power level, which is like zodiac level, obviously morel isn't taking the phantom troupe alone, but he's as good as their best. Meanwhile some phantom troupe members are just like creating clones of pots. Zoldycks would win, silva and zeno are around hisoka/chrollo leveled, zeno is stronger, illumi is literally a zoldyck first, killua is at the time of speaking in that hisoka style tier as well, maybe even stronger cuz of his lightning speed shit that no one can react to, illumi might have just died if killua could actually attack him without the limitations stopping them from doing damage to each other, and they have butlers like the old lady (they HAD the one coin guy), etc, who can at least match the mid leveled phantom troupe, and honestly other butlers can drop people like pot clone boy. Honestly the zeno and silva vs chrollo fight is heavily sus because the whole fight was staged the entire way, so we should judge chrollo based on his hisoka fight (which he went in heavily planned by taking abilities of his members and a prepped strategy he had cuz he knew the battle was going to happen, and fully knowing hisoka's deal) The zeno and silva vs chrollo fight is as relevant to power scale as younger toguro vs yusuke and kuwabara in their first meeting.
@@IskandarTheWack Tell me you know nothing about nen without telling me you know nothing about nen. The exact reason why Silva and Zeno taking extreme risks against Chrollo who is far weaker physically, and nen capacity wise than each of them is because he has nen abilities they do not know of. So, nen wise Chrollo is powerful in his own right, and could take multiple equally skilled heroes because of his unique abilities. It's like saying Kurapika is weak because he focused his nen ability against the spiders only, in which it takes a really talented, masterful nen user to reach that level of prowess in the first place. The Ryodans are not scaled to regular hunters wtf are you talking about? Class A bounties don't mean anything to you? They're literally at the top list of bounties. Zoldycks family vs PT I'd give the win to PT. The reason Silva warned them of the PT is because they have high level nen users equivalent to their top tier members. KIlua Millhuki and Kalluto do not scale to any of the members even Kortupi during the time Silva warned them about it. This is a fact. We are excluding the butlers because it would not be a fair comparison in two groups. Butlers are not assassins they are simply servants. They are not part of the Zoldyck family. So it goes down to Silva, Illumi, Zeno, Maha, the wife, Kalluto, Millhuki and killua against PT. This is unfair because only 5 members of the Zaoldyecks scale to the Phantom Troupe. This is fact. Killua only has speed feats he does not have strength enhancement, his strength does not scale to any of the PT members, and never will be since we have no proof of it. Heck he even talks about kite being one armed is too much for both of Gon and Killua. Remember them having trouble with support members of the troupe? Heck Gon can't even beat a non-serious Genthru who is a tier below the Phantom Troupe, and CA arc came before that. And lastly. The Hunters had time to study, along with prior information, had time to prepare for the Ants. They took literal days to study them first before attacking. The Phantom Troupe went in blind. It is true that Netero is very much impossible to beat, but the rest of the Zodiacs, including Ging has not been shown to possess abilities that can trump any of the combat members of the spiders. Like I said, Zodiac = Zoldyck = PT, otherwise PT would have not been this notorious all throughout the series if there is an organization of Hunters that could take them on. Heck even in the latest manga they are still relatively regarded as untouchables. You sir are UNDER hyping the PT.
@@IskandarTheWack Also your comment about Illumi backed by institution. What a load of crap. Illumi went in solo and wreaked havoc publicly in front of the Hunters Association, during the election arc, an event full of Hunters lol. The butlers were for strictly finding Killa and nanika. Only Hisoka was asked to deal with some of the hunters where Illumi was focusing on city level panic. If it is not evident to you now, let me tell you. The regular hunters are 10s 20s barely 50 power levels in Hisoka's power rating system. Above average would be 50++, and exceptional nen users at 70 above. Most of the Zodiacs got 70, maxing at 90, only Illumi was rated 95 and he's not the most powerful member of the Zoldyck. If these nen users are existing why haven't they captured/killed the Genei Ryodan yet? hmm?
@@kal.asther Honestly your argument kind of backfires back at you tbh, because that is more an attribute of nen and worthless for powerscale then. Like I wouldn't call the girl prince's "kill me and I take your life essence to come back" nen ability to make them super powerful, at best you can argue they were avoiding that, or the whole thing was wwe wrestling cuz of what was going on. I mean kurapika is weaker than gon (pre ability wipe) and killua (now) even with his phantom troupe buff. Also kurapika is weak relative to the overall powerscale yes. Also no, making restrictions to boost your power isn't a sign of nen ability, it's just a restriction in exchange for power. But that's literally only like 2 of his abilities anyway. The phantom troupe's only relative comparison to hunters is that general hunters don't go after them, ie people on the level of or weaker than binolt. People like knuckle, morel, kite, ging, netero, etc aren't included in that initial early series mention. You do realize that threats against humanity vs bounty level are drastically different things right? Yes, the entire phantom troupe together are not entirely without merit, their strongest are in the morel/non strongest zodiacs level (hisoka, illumi, and chrollo). But yeah, some of them are like regular trash hunter level to decent hunter level. Their middle grade fighters are on the level of Pokkle, not big time hunters. You can beat a group and still go "don't go after them", silva never admitted inferiority, but he doesn't want to lose anyone and it isn't just worth the mark to him, and he wasn't even saying "family vs them", but individual zoldyck vs them. Silva was regarding his own thing involving them where I believe he killed one of them but the group were so collective that it just wasn't worth the hassle. So you're arguing at the time because killua runs through them all with godspeed? Also didn't even warn them about it like, pre series? "it wouldn't be a fair comparison" It would. Or should we make it zoldycks vs the lucifers? (ie just chrollo) Or is it not a fair comparison because it makes it a further stomp and you don't want to admit you're wrong? You're just making up rules now lol. Also like, sure, put maha, silva, illumi, and zeno vs a phantom troupe pre hisoka. They still win, even if you remove the butlers for no reason but you want to not get the phantom troupe stomped. 1/3rd to half the phantom troupe are chimera ant peon level at best, half to 2/3rds can't defeat a chimera ant officer. Uvo lost to fucking kurapika. "only 5 members of the zoldycks scale to the phantom troupe" Phantom troupe isn't a power level, they go from literal greed island fodder leveled up, up to like officer level, then a huge gap where hisoka (not included in the comparison by your own rules), illumi (not included by your own rules but on the other side, who he's more loyal to anyway), and chrollo are distinctly stronger in comparison to people like nobunaga and feitan, who are a big jump over people like phinks, who makes people likt eh gun girl and the pot cloner look like fodder. So chrollo is a 10 in this comparison since he's the benchmark to base others. Illumi is a 9 Silva is a 10+ Zeno is a 10+ Maha is arguably 20+ I don't think the 5 and downs that make up the rest of the phantom troupe is doing shit. Killua is physically stronger than every single member of the phantom troupe bar MAYBE Uvo. Like fuck, yorkshin gon literally wiped out multiple of them and he was physically weaker than killua back then. You literally just stopped paying attention after yorkshin didn't you? Binolt unironically would beat people like Kortopi, Paku, Shalnark, and Kalluto. And gon and killua surpassed them like halfway through their training with bisky. Then within their training with kite and their experience, plus their training with knuckle and the other guy, they gained multiple more powerups. Like the killua who escaped phinks grip (a top 50% member of the phantom troupe) is like 7 major power ups removed from the killua who exists now. Rammot unironically kills Kortopi, Paku, Shalnark, Bonolenov, SHizuku, Phinks, Kalluto, and Uvo. I don't know enough about Nobunaga and Machi to know if they're dropped too. Kite with one arm was able to prolong a fight with a royal guard with a bad spin. A single royal guard would kill the entire phantom troupe. "Remember them having trouble with support characters" When? During yorkshin? That's like saying android saga goku isn't a match against nappa because he couldn't beat raddiz. Gon and Killua went on to train in greed island, then get one of the premiere teachers in the martial arts nen style that netero was a part of, who specializes in training people, to train them, where they go through like 5 different sets of power ups within said training, to the point that gon and killua even partway through the training couldn't defeat a massively hurt binolt going into the fight, then could individually beat him handily by the end. THen they continued to get stronger. Then they got stronger during their time with kite. THen they got stronger after kite's death to escape Then they got stronger with knuckle and shoot was it? Like fuck, is killua not a match for gido too by your logic? "can't even beat a non-serious Genthru who is a tier below the phantom troupe" Proof? Genthru is easily upper end of phantom troupe leveled. Also you need to stop treating phantom troupe as a level, when binolt beats multiple of them, they drastically vary in power. "days of prep" Yes because they went against meruem, the royal guards, palm, and ALL the squadron leaders and officers who remained. The phantom troupe struggled with the weakest nen using squadron leader (a manipulator who tried to be an enhancer), 2-3 officers, and like 15 peons/drudges Gon and Killua arguably defeat that force alone. Phinks struggled with Gorilla, who only had basic nen and not hatsu. Gon PRE Knuckle training literally defeated 2 hatsu having chimera ant officers at once who were specifically teamed up because they worked perfectly together as a duo. Killua literally killed like 12 officers pre shoot training, who had the jump on him, and armies of peons. Phinks literally had to do 7-8 rotations with his hatsu to beat a fucking peon and he's stronger than multiple members of the phantom troupe. Meanwhile Killua: ua-cam.com/video/GhuhI_kbhbI/v-deo.html That's 3 officers working together at the very least (maybe 4) and like 5 peons, being watched over by a squadron leader, versus not the strongest version of killua: Killua literally kills officers with his bare hands, phinks needs 7-8 rotations to kill a peon. Also let's not joke around, Killua wasn't just stunning youpi to no damage, he was making him reel like a human punched another human with each attack, obviously he can wasn't defeated, but literally speed increases damage, that's just how everything works, and even without said mode killua is already stronger than phinks without even using any hatsus multiplet imes over. So let's not act like killua wouldn't rip off literally every single phantom troupe members head with one attack. Killua doesn't even need god speed for anyone in the phantom troupe but illumi, chrollo, and hisoka, and he kills any of them with it unless chrollo has some kind of uno reverse nen ability hax like the one prince of kakin. Netero, Morel, Knov, Knuckle, and Shoot didn't prep for Zazan. Netero prepped for Meruem. Morel, Knuckle, and Shoot prepped for Youpi and Pouf. Netero, Morel, and Knov killed all but 14 squadron leaders on their initial push, then got info about the royal guards and thus meruem above them on their power, and thus prepared. I'm a little into the dark continent, like when the princes start getting killed, cuz I haven't really picked it up since the last hiatus came back yet, but up until that point, literally none of the zodiacs got into any fights. Hisoka gave a 77 to Piyon, 85 to Kanzai, and 90 to Ginta. He gave Illumi a 95. None of the people there are the strongest zodiac. If we used illumi as a measuring stick, people like phinks might unironically be like 30. So yes, if the zodiacs are a bit weaker than illumi and hisoka up to distinctly stronger than them, people who struggle with peons/officers like phinks aren't going to cut it. I've disproven zodiac = zoldyck = pt Also you don't have to be literally the strongest power in the world to be notorious or relevant. It's a stupid argument, it'd be like saying "well russaia is weaker than america, therefore ummmmm, they are weak and how do they exist still then??? Therefore russia = america in military power" I'm using facts, you're using feelings. Phantom Trope are untouchable in comparison to random mafia families who are just now getting nen abilities. Yes the phantom troupe are stronger than the mafia family in yorkshin too that they defeated. That doesn't really mean shit when you're comparing them to people like the zodiacs.
@@NUELAMOAKOH You cant say he is the strongest because he killed some of the most powerful villains in that world and say after that he doesnt need that power. He wouldnt killed the PT members without it, so without it, he wouldnt be one of the strongest people in HxH
So you just picked the first guy out of a hat bc you admit you know next to nothing about him, the 2nd guy has a strong ability but En is a thing so the opponent woulndt be completely without options at least I doubt it would be easy as you said if he was fighting a skilled nen user, and Kaprikas strongest ability can only be used on the spiders making him situationally strongest. Im gonna be honest I think you did 5 mins of resrarch and made a vid for views on a topic you seem to know very little about.
@@joefriedman4260 ua-cam.com/video/R7OwVaE5xQI/v-deo.htmlsi=a0mHP6gfyWuzq77A Compare how he said it to how Kurapika himself said it, his Pronunciation is very good tbh
Only one of his chains is like this, emperor time, and every single other ability do not have the limitations of chain jail. Kurapika has a bunch of other Hatsus, some of which can fill in for chain jail.
This logic would work on normal nen users. Kurapika isn't. Because of his Emperor Time he counters this, by using other types of abilities which he has no problem learning and using.
No true! Kurapika being deemed the strongest can be true but only if being used against the Phantom Troupe otherwise Kurapika is completely useless against any other character
His Jail Chain is useless against anyone else, but that doesn't make HIM useless against others... Emperor Time still maxes out every Nen Category, which is absolutely Broken in Combat >.>
@@durk5331 even that is only true to begin with, during the phantom troupe arc gon and hisoka make him realise its flaws and he changes it, creating two versions.
Lol, Kurapuka's strongest nen abilities can be used ONLY on spiders, so on other criminals he will suck. Thats why Hisoka dont fight him - Kurapika is weak for him and more usefull as a tool.
@@BcnncDddd Wow, just like smoking a cigarette, what a bid. And last for 3 hours. To cost a year of his life he must be in Emperor Time around 3 years. BTW, I just dont like him.
Wouldn’t the Zolics (can’t spell their name) be the strongest? Also his nen ability is only strong because it’s specifically for hunting the phantom troupe
It's his only ability with that limitation. ALL his other chains, and emperor time, are usable outside the spider. Some of them can even fulfil similar functions to chain jail.
@@abowden556 true but if you think abt it. The zolydics are around phantom troupe level. The grandfather himself went straight into the fight with the royale guards even if it was a short while. Kira pika has only been able to beat the phantom troupe with the help of his specific nen boost. So while I think he is definitely a strong nen user. He definitely isn’t the strongest
Only some of his abilities are restricted by that vow, Chain Jail being one of them, the rest can be used freely, he is still very powerful even when not fighting against the Spiders.
Nah, he can use loads of other abilities on non spiders, chain jail is the only ability with that restriction. he has a load of other chains that do different things.
Black list hunters would Hisokas field as he’s currently hunting A class criminals. Also this field for hunters would be an instant way to fight strong opponents
Certainly, but as I understand it black list hunters are usually bothered with investigation and conviction.
That would be the perfect field for Hisoka if he bothered to control himself a bit more....but not every target of him is a criminal. Kastro, Gon (in the long term) among others are not criminals.
@@saparapatepete that’s why he wanted Illumi as his manager
@@Grayson-Winchester he's a psycho, but a self aware one XD
Hisoka definitely fits the requirement if he cared enough and wasnt an independent psychopath.
I'M waiting for the day HxH comes back, especially with the new news. Can't wait to see kurapika realise the troupe is here
I am waiting right along with you 😂😂 we gonna be waiting a long ass time
Wait you're telling me kurapika been on that boat this whole time without knowing the troupe is there?????
@@jadenthecommenter yep his target is the 4th prince, not the troupe
@@theesportsunited5410 I see, togashi is cooking. 1 month cinnamon roll type beat
And he will defeat them, there is just zero intrigue in it.
Saiyu literally said: 🙈🙉🙊
That’s actually funny asf 💀💀💀
Accurate
Kurapika and shovel can't never be separated 😂
Lippo was the only examiner who put actual effort in his trial.
Satotz just had the candidates run a marathon, Machi and Buhara just wanted to stuff their mouth, and the bloke from next year's exam left to smoke a cigarette, leaving the candidates to beat eachother up.
We don't know anything about him, and we may never see him again, but He has my respect.
the first trail is about fitness and keeping track of someone you are chasing you didn't have to run with him just keep an eye on him
@@marcushayes1406 I'm not saying it wasn't hard or that it didn't evaluate a useful skill for a hunter, but it took almost no effort to set up on Satotz part. A ruin hunter could have come up with with something more fitting to his specialization
@@XxInuyashadowxX i get you but he's not trailing ruin hunters he's trialling their basic hunter skills its the first trial to get rid of fodder like the laptop kid/ in the cooking one that's why they was all mad they don't want to be gourmet hunters so the trail isn't fair to them only a person who wanted to be a gourmet hunter would pass their challenge its like basic training they all do it but then you figure out what your going to be as a hunter
There's different standards on test that's why there's different examiners for different standards you may forget there's a board deciding which and who
the cooking hunters wanted to teach them a lesson about their category of hunting, she even participated in the egg grab & it was something to test the candidate’s cunningness. that’s a good test if you ask me she just wanted to make them think & for them to learn a lesson
Saiyu's nen ability is likely inspired by the proverb "See no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil." They are also often represented by 3 monkeys named "Mizaru, Kikazaru, and Iwazaru".
" Likely " it's obvious lol
@@pavlekovacevic1676 true
out of curiosity which monkeys are which? do u think that it has to do with kizaru ? if mizaru and kikazaru are eyes and ears then it makes sense
🙈🙉🙊
@ramisama88 mizaru is sight as miru 見る means to see, kikazaru is hearing, kiku 聞く (the vocal -a following the base form of the verb in Japanese can introduce the negative form) and iwazaru is for speaking, iu 言う. Considering the word having 2 vowels close, to get the right pronunciation it's necessary to add a consonant with the same function of the u, so iwanai, pronounced as iuanai.
Meanwhile the phantom troupe members going wherever they want without any defense, splitted in groups
Still can’t get over him bringing a shovel to the fight.
"Nobody has dared face"
**Hisoka existing**
????
The monkey zodiac is so cool
Saiyu ability is definitely derived from a quote from mahatma gandhi 'bura na dekho, bura na bolo, bura na suno' which translated to english means, 'watch no bad, say no bad, hear no bad'
or in other words "See No Evil, Speak No Evil, Hear No Evil"? >.> which is an even Older proverb....
@@durk5331this is the original pro-verb which was used and translated in Europe
@@MuhammadAlii-tk1cg but then its Still not Originally from Mahatma Gandhi then (who the OP said it was derived from a quote of), who lived in the 20th century.... but an Older Proverb like I said >.>
duh
@@durk5331 It is older but the proverb mentioned by the commenter is the original. Also wth is op? Overpowered? One piece?
Kurapika strictly is a mafia criminal, and doesn't have his victims tried and convicted. He's a body parts/treasure hunter and bodyguard, then adopted? Into the crime family.
wtf are you talking about omg
Man's is smoking meth
What??
you don't have to take your victims to trial to be considered a blacklist hunter, you can choose to do that but the hunter license makes you your own authority. for example, melody calls herself a music hunter because she wants to find the sonata of darkness, but i doubt anyone other than kurapika knows that, she'll just find it and destroy it on her own without telling the association or anything. kurapika has no trouble killing cause hunters are legally allowed to kill anyone as long as it's not an inhuman act
I think you're kinda right. I think. It's a little off tho
"we have sun wukong at home"
sun wukong at home:
The Dissector still alive and well…
Killua: hold my beer
I hope he's not dead after reaching his goal..
Me too…😢
This is my first time hearing about Monkey’s Nen Ability!!!!😭😂
Kurapika take down the physical strongest Phantoms, that's very important
I was gonna make a similar comment. Like you said, *physically* strongest, which is WAY different when nen is a factor
@@dalebumpaous1502 Enhancer. Strongest member = that, physical prowess. None of the other members are as durable or as strong as him even nen enhanced. But we all know nen can have weird abilities, so yes, there might be a counter to a physically imposing character such as Uvo, manipulators for example. But for sure Uvo probably has the highest nen capacity of the bunch since he's an enhancer. The character was made to show power, and then got beat by a 1 in a million nen user.
Phantom Troupe got the title most dangerous because Razor retired
Why is everyone saying Kurapika will be useless against non-spiders? You guys need to rewatch the anime. He is one of the OP characters in HxH. He's strong, smart and meticulous. He will be very difficult to defeat by anyone
He won’t be useless but he will never be at his peak when against a non spider
@aceclover758 it's never true. Kindly rewatch or read the manga. It's his chain jail that is exclusively for the spiders. He can whip anyone with the chains, use it to block attacks, projectiles etc. He just can't use It to immobilise and force any other opponent into zetsu. He did it so with that condition, so he can properly and permanently immobilise a spider, no matter how strong they are. That is why he started with the strongest spider physically in the person of Uvogin to test his chain strength. Kurapika is a strong nen user. And a smart one at that. He even mastered It over a short period as compared to his contemporaries. Even Hisoka will not provoke him into a fight just for the fun of it. Cos he knows how strong Kurapika is.
Remember the lady who interviewed him for the body guard job? Immediately she saw him the 2nd time. She knew kurapika was OP
@@NUELAMOAKOH What I mean is Kurapika’s aura output and power will never be at its peak with a non Troupe member due to Nen being based offf your emotions and impressions
What Kurapika fought Uvo with, that will not be the same to a non spider. His aura spikes when he fights a Spider
Kurapika is a strong nen use but he isnt ont he level of Hisoka
Also Hisoka will not fight him cuz there is no need to. It has nothing to do with strength since what you say is contradictory. Hisoka would want to fight Kurapika by your logic.
She didnt “know anything”. She just complimented him on mastering Nen in 6 months, which is what many other talented and more talented people can do that we have seen
@aceclover758 We can go on and on, there are some things in your write-up I disagree with. I still stand by my points but I rest my case.
Speak no evil, hear no evil, and see no evil
and then you have Hisoka, he killed 3 members of the phantom trouoe
He easily killed them because they dont have their abilities.
@@FanOfMinatozakiSanathat don't make them completely helpless, as experienced fighters, even without their hatsu, they could have put up a fight. I won't argue though, fighting Hisoka even with all of your corresponding abilities is probably a suicide mission for most members of the spider. Especially after his resurrection, that's an almost unwinnable fight even for veteran nen users. If I had to compare him to another character in battle capabilities he would be comparable to Morel and Knov. Morel and Knov have arguably some of the best abilities in HxH.
@@jeffmartinspilatz6114 No abilities, and just the support members as well. Imagine not being combat attuned as the enemy and not having your abilities. Machi could've fared well if he didn't take her by surprise. Just goes to show any master if taken by surprise can be 1 shotted by even the lowest tier users, heck even a gun could handle anybody if given the same chance.
Heck, that's what the Gon v Genthru fight was for.
@@kal.asther yes support characters, however, a veteran nen user is still dangerous. Think about it like this. Shalnark could muster an immense amount of nen as seen in his auto pilot mode. Pair that with the fact that as a nen master, he can still use advanced nen application in hand to hand combat. In the same manner that Biscuit taught Gon and Killua. Using the basics efficiently even without your final punch or technique. Manchi vs Hisoka would have been incredibly close but I still think Hisoka would win. His specialty is improvisation and trickery, and it almost killed Chrollo. And yes he did catch her off guard as did Kurapika vs Uvojin. The tide can turn quickly in nen combat and it is what makes HxH my favorite manga/anime
@@jeffmartinspilatz6114 Yes veteran nen user. It's safe to say Shalnark and Kortupi are at the top end of that list, however; Again, they're just not combat attuned. Unlike Phinx, Nobunaga and Uvogin are. Much unlike Hisoka who revels in fighting with a big handicap. So a fight like that was a tad bit unlikely for Hisoka, but I guess it's a given, since he's actual target is just Kuroro himself. I'm sure with 100% of their capabilities, Hisoka would win against most of the Spiders 8/10, with the exception of the combat attuned ones like Phinx, Nobunaga, Uvon, Benolenov, and Franklin. I'd give it a 50/50 on those guys. But he was going after the person with real difficulty to fight like Kuroro who has special abilities that can turn the tide a 100%, he wants that 40/60 handicap in favor of Kuroro, that's why he gave him time to plan and he lost, he'd lose 100% everytime if he keeps on giving him time to plan. And that's why now, he's going after the whole Ryodan, not letting Kuroro plan, but instead his turn to set a trap. Now it's 10/90 in favor of Ryodan, but now he gets to make the terms. so that supposed 10/90 can turn to a close 30/70 to maybe even 40/60 in favor of Ryodans.
Have anymore hxh chapters come out?
Togashi is working on them but and has finished many but hasn't published any yet
Togashi posted something on twitter I think he is working on manga
@@zoro_lost69thanks god, that's a good news. I really miss HxH that's why I'm watching these HxH reels lol
Can’t wait to see another season
Muzan was a perfect kid until he decides to break character😂
Hisoka now🗿
Even if he can't use judgement chain on criminals outside the troupe, his latest ability (post anime) fills in for that.
Lipo likely has either a similar ability that's instead dependent on his foes crimes or maybe he targets criminals that aren't awakened unlike the troupe and those hired by the mafia, honestly I'd pick the latter too
He changed his judgement chain and also created two versions after gon & hisoka makes him realise the flaws in it.
What that dolphin do
Kurapika didn't take out the strongest Phantom, he took down the physically strongest, but not the strongest nen user or them.
"No one has ever dared to take on"
What about the Mafia? Hisoka? Silva?
kurapika cannot jail anyone other than troupe
Even without chain jail he's pretty strong. Emperor time allows him to have 100% in all nen categories which is broken in battle
Kurapeeka the weakest black list hunter😂
@@haroldnecmann7040Kurapika*
I never understood his ability, he got chains? And kaioken?
He still has the other chains and emperor time, he can basically heal, steal abilities, has a way of gathering info and can destroy people's hearts with the knife chain, and the jail chain only deprives people from their nen abilites, his other chains have as much durability.
When did kurapika learned that the monkey zodiac is the spy. I've never read that in the manga
Early in the succession arc around the chapter 358-363 Mizaistom shows Kurapika a video of the zodiacs meeting while he uses his dowsing ring finger chain to identify liars in the group
Definitely misheard the beginning of this video so when i saw the monkey guy i lost it 😂
Kurapika is just the only one who commited to the smoke
Ging is one of the few Dark Continent Hunters to ever lived. And as a matter of fact, we already made a theory about Gon being a child of Ging and someone in the Dark Continent
I never understood why you left him alive
"phisically" strongest and actually strongest are 2 things way different
Strongest in terms of raw physical prowess. I think Uvo is at the bottom-side in terms of overall power compared to other spider members.
Agreed, wtf was this video talking about, chrollo is literally one of the most dangerous nen users in HxH as literally listed by the OG himself.
I don't even know that other dude's name he wasn't a very strong member by any means.
Uvo wasn't at the bottom in overall power, he fell prey to Kurapika's vengeance, and an anomaly in nen users. A nen user that can use all nen traits at 100 percent under the right circumstances. Uvo single handedly beat 4 veteran nen users, assassins actually. And he did so mostly without using his hands. I would rank him 5th in overall power on a scale of 1-12 1 being the strongest and 12 being the weakest after having seen most of the nen abilities of the troupe.
nah, from what we've seen so far the only 2 other Troupe members who could beat Uvo in a fight would be Chrollo and Hisoka
Lol no…
the spider brigade was quite shocked, Uvo was not only very physically strong but also very durable and difficult to wound,, REMIND what the fuck happened when against Mafia elite squad, he was immobilized and still they cannot kill him 😂😂😂
Togashi said if during the fight if Uvo fighted at 100% from the beginning, Uvo may’ve oneshotted Kurapika at the first punch💀
Strongest PHYSICALLY, not overall.
The last one is looking so much like meliodas
I haven't yet started hxh but I will after I catch up on one piece
damm hxh really have some unique abilities
Kurapika is strong against the phantom troupe because he's specialized to hunt them down, but idk if he can match the rest pound for pound
Does the blacklisters include like Melody and the rest of them from the york new arc?
Its not entirely accurate to call Uvogin the "strongest" troupe member, as he's only the strongest when it comes to pure physicality. He's pure violence.
The reason it was important that kurapika's chains worked on uvogin is that they forced a state of zetsu. Uvo had the strongest muscles in the troupe and even he couldn't break free
He is quite frankly the strongest. Every member attests to that. Nobody in the group believed he was defeated, he's that hard to beat.
Kurapika can’t do shit to anyone unless their a troupe member.
He tanked a Big Bang Impact, that means his Emperor Time gives him a high boost in nen to defend himself. Not most nen users can survive that punch according to Uvon.
My guess is Lippo's (spelling?) ability is as a manipulator and has to do with controlling his prisoners.
Kurapika only strong against the spiders 😂
He forget to say kurapika is the strongestvphwnyom troupe hunter not black list
Kurapika is nothing to play with.
kurapika is the avatar.
I am just betting on which will finish first, Game of Thrones or HXH? Maybe none
HxH is at least releasing new material
But without restriction Kurapika is just normal
Bushidora Ambitious should be there instead of Lippo. He is a Single star Blacklist Hunter
Physically strongest
Kurapka is op, but he's also weak. He's op only cause of the condition where he can only have such power for only a small group of people. Against any other strong adversary he'd be struggling for sure.
Kurapika isnt technically a blacklist hunter. Hisoka kind of is though.
kurapika is only can hunter black spider...
Okay, UA-cam, I'll watch/read HxH, just stop revommending me these videos...
kurapika clearly solos the phantom troupe
Who else thought of this:🙈🙉🙊
Kurapika is the strongest PERIOD.
Wow, hunter ÷ hunter sounds really weird.
YAY IM EARLY
Kurapika is strong only against phantom troupe members because of his oath, he is absolutely dogshit otherwise.
Not true. His scarlet eyes boosts his physical prowess and nen capacity in magnitudes to be able to defend against Big Bang Impact, and with Emperor Time, he's basically flexible enough to catch anybody offguard with unique abilities, and can better any other non enhancers, since he can use 100% of his nen as strength boost.
I doubt he's the strongest. He misses the expirience the others have and that was only the strongest member in brute strength, not fighting ability. Feitan is probably way the hardest to beat.
Interesting.
🙈🙉 🙊
Kurapika is NOT that strong
Even with a nen contract + emperor's time boosting his abilities, he still got his arm crushed by uvogin hitting him 💀
Comparing him to people, who are consistently said to be sparring partners to rusty netero, is like comparing an ant(who needs specific conditions to be strong)to a lion 💀
Maybe not physically. But I doubt anyone can break off his chain, even if they were not Phantom Troupe. Unless it was one of these characters. Netero, Silva, Beyond, Bisky and Dragon Botobai. Seems to be the most physically imposing characters with enough mastery to maybe trump Kurapika's nen enhancement on the chain.
Nevertheless there are other ways of winning a nen battle and his ET gives him so much advantage on that part.
Also, BBI is like one of the most powerful attacks in HXH we haven't seen anything in comparison outside, Netero's zero and Meruem's immense strength. Getting out of that with just a broken arm just means Kurapika's Scarlet Eye boost is immense.
You mean Bounty Hunters
kurapika's nen abilities can only be used against the spiders or he is dead connected by his powers being op.
that's only chain jail. every other ability works on anyone
The phantom troop are vastly overhyped, they were listed as a group that normal hunters wouldn’t go after, that’s it. They literally fought the weakest squadron leader with men, and struggled with peons and like 1-2 officers. People like morel are essentially top of the line hunters, so the initial hype doesn’t have any relevance to them. Outside of hisoka, Illumi, and chrollo who he’s on the general level of, he runs the rest raw. Their main strength is their loyalty and those top 3.
Morel was scared of Illumi, basically the name Zoldyck was enough to make him wet his pants. Zoldycks, Zodiacs and Genei Ryodan, are the cream of the crop in the hunter world.
Basically best Assasins, best thieves, best hunters.
Morel is just a mid tier hunter. Maybe close to high tier. But obviously not within the league of these three groups.
Just think about it. Why did any of the Zodiacs yes even Ging and Netero, chose not to chase them? Because this group is very dangerous. Heck, even Silva and Zeno wasn't sure of Chrollos abilities and quite masterfully deduced that they'd have to die in order to win. In Silva's words "stay away from the phantom troupe". Says alot about this groups ability.
Heck Silva can hold his own 1 on 1 with any nen master, but group against group, he knows the PT is a very coordinated, dangerous group. And that's why he said to his sons to stay away from them. They just don't know who would win. A risk Zoldycks clearly make a rule of not taking.
@@kal.asther "intimidated" =/= weaker than, especially when it's tied to the safety of OTHER people you care about.
Like yeah, illumi when he's backed by the zoldycks as an institution is very intimidating, even if morel himself could match illumi. There is silva, zeno, the butlers (the old lady is very strong), Maha (arguably the strongest at the house rn), etc, and their resources.
"wet his pants" though? Lol
Phantom Troupe are literally only scaled to "regular hunters don't take missions typically that involve them"
But Morel is an elite one, on the level of the zodiacs.
Morel literally while nerfed defeated squadron leader chimera ants that were more specialized accurately to their combat style, this puts him multiple steps over at least half the phantom troupe. And said nerf was literally "I don't have an elite army backing me cuz they were fighting off stronger threats", heck pretty sure he didnt' even have his pipe.
The phantom troupe meanwhile depending ont he member were struggling with literally trash mob chimera ants.
Ging was doing his own thing.
Netero was lightyears above them, like genuinely they die in one hit of his weapon and he can hit them 100 times before they can blink, he literally only went to the chimera ants cuz no one was a match for him even in his nerfed state.
"even silva nad zeno"
Those are literally multiple tiers weaker than Netero combined, he'd turn them into paste in a fraction of a second.
Morel, Hisoka, Silva, Zeno, Illumi, and Chrollo are in the same general power level, which is like zodiac level, obviously morel isn't taking the phantom troupe alone, but he's as good as their best. Meanwhile some phantom troupe members are just like creating clones of pots.
Zoldycks would win, silva and zeno are around hisoka/chrollo leveled, zeno is stronger, illumi is literally a zoldyck first, killua is at the time of speaking in that hisoka style tier as well, maybe even stronger cuz of his lightning speed shit that no one can react to, illumi might have just died if killua could actually attack him without the limitations stopping them from doing damage to each other, and they have butlers like the old lady (they HAD the one coin guy), etc, who can at least match the mid leveled phantom troupe, and honestly other butlers can drop people like pot clone boy.
Honestly the zeno and silva vs chrollo fight is heavily sus because the whole fight was staged the entire way, so we should judge chrollo based on his hisoka fight (which he went in heavily planned by taking abilities of his members and a prepped strategy he had cuz he knew the battle was going to happen, and fully knowing hisoka's deal)
The zeno and silva vs chrollo fight is as relevant to power scale as younger toguro vs yusuke and kuwabara in their first meeting.
@@IskandarTheWack Tell me you know nothing about nen without telling me you know nothing about nen.
The exact reason why Silva and Zeno taking extreme risks against Chrollo who is far weaker physically, and nen capacity wise than each of them is because he has nen abilities they do not know of. So, nen wise Chrollo is powerful in his own right, and could take multiple equally skilled heroes because of his unique abilities.
It's like saying Kurapika is weak because he focused his nen ability against the spiders only, in which it takes a really talented, masterful nen user to reach that level of prowess in the first place.
The Ryodans are not scaled to regular hunters wtf are you talking about? Class A bounties don't mean anything to you? They're literally at the top list of bounties.
Zoldycks family vs PT I'd give the win to PT. The reason Silva warned them of the PT is because they have high level nen users equivalent to their top tier members. KIlua Millhuki and Kalluto do not scale to any of the members even Kortupi during the time Silva warned them about it. This is a fact. We are excluding the butlers because it would not be a fair comparison in two groups. Butlers are not assassins they are simply servants. They are not part of the Zoldyck family. So it goes down to Silva, Illumi, Zeno, Maha, the wife, Kalluto, Millhuki and killua against PT. This is unfair because only 5 members of the Zaoldyecks scale to the Phantom Troupe. This is fact.
Killua only has speed feats he does not have strength enhancement, his strength does not scale to any of the PT members, and never will be since we have no proof of it. Heck he even talks about kite being one armed is too much for both of Gon and Killua. Remember them having trouble with support members of the troupe? Heck Gon can't even beat a non-serious Genthru who is a tier below the Phantom Troupe, and CA arc came before that.
And lastly. The Hunters had time to study, along with prior information, had time to prepare for the Ants. They took literal days to study them first before attacking. The Phantom Troupe went in blind. It is true that Netero is very much impossible to beat, but the rest of the Zodiacs, including Ging has not been shown to possess abilities that can trump any of the combat members of the spiders.
Like I said, Zodiac = Zoldyck = PT, otherwise PT would have not been this notorious all throughout the series if there is an organization of Hunters that could take them on. Heck even in the latest manga they are still relatively regarded as untouchables. You sir are UNDER hyping the PT.
@@IskandarTheWack Also your comment about Illumi backed by institution. What a load of crap. Illumi went in solo and wreaked havoc publicly in front of the Hunters Association, during the election arc, an event full of Hunters lol.
The butlers were for strictly finding Killa and nanika. Only Hisoka was asked to deal with some of the hunters where Illumi was focusing on city level panic.
If it is not evident to you now, let me tell you. The regular hunters are 10s 20s barely 50 power levels in Hisoka's power rating system. Above average would be 50++, and exceptional nen users at 70 above. Most of the Zodiacs got 70, maxing at 90, only Illumi was rated 95 and he's not the most powerful member of the Zoldyck. If these nen users are existing why haven't they captured/killed the Genei Ryodan yet? hmm?
@@kal.asther Honestly your argument kind of backfires back at you tbh, because that is more an attribute of nen and worthless for powerscale then. Like I wouldn't call the girl prince's "kill me and I take your life essence to come back" nen ability to make them super powerful, at best you can argue they were avoiding that, or the whole thing was wwe wrestling cuz of what was going on.
I mean kurapika is weaker than gon (pre ability wipe) and killua (now) even with his phantom troupe buff. Also kurapika is weak relative to the overall powerscale yes.
Also no, making restrictions to boost your power isn't a sign of nen ability, it's just a restriction in exchange for power. But that's literally only like 2 of his abilities anyway.
The phantom troupe's only relative comparison to hunters is that general hunters don't go after them, ie people on the level of or weaker than binolt. People like knuckle, morel, kite, ging, netero, etc aren't included in that initial early series mention.
You do realize that threats against humanity vs bounty level are drastically different things right? Yes, the entire phantom troupe together are not entirely without merit, their strongest are in the morel/non strongest zodiacs level (hisoka, illumi, and chrollo). But yeah, some of them are like regular trash hunter level to decent hunter level. Their middle grade fighters are on the level of Pokkle, not big time hunters.
You can beat a group and still go "don't go after them", silva never admitted inferiority, but he doesn't want to lose anyone and it isn't just worth the mark to him, and he wasn't even saying "family vs them", but individual zoldyck vs them. Silva was regarding his own thing involving them where I believe he killed one of them but the group were so collective that it just wasn't worth the hassle.
So you're arguing at the time because killua runs through them all with godspeed? Also didn't even warn them about it like, pre series?
"it wouldn't be a fair comparison"
It would.
Or should we make it zoldycks vs the lucifers? (ie just chrollo)
Or is it not a fair comparison because it makes it a further stomp and you don't want to admit you're wrong? You're just making up rules now lol. Also like, sure, put maha, silva, illumi, and zeno vs a phantom troupe pre hisoka. They still win, even if you remove the butlers for no reason but you want to not get the phantom troupe stomped. 1/3rd to half the phantom troupe are chimera ant peon level at best, half to 2/3rds can't defeat a chimera ant officer. Uvo lost to fucking kurapika.
"only 5 members of the zoldycks scale to the phantom troupe"
Phantom troupe isn't a power level, they go from literal greed island fodder leveled up, up to like officer level, then a huge gap where hisoka (not included in the comparison by your own rules), illumi (not included by your own rules but on the other side, who he's more loyal to anyway), and chrollo are distinctly stronger in comparison to people like nobunaga and feitan, who are a big jump over people like phinks, who makes people likt eh gun girl and the pot cloner look like fodder.
So chrollo is a 10 in this comparison since he's the benchmark to base others.
Illumi is a 9
Silva is a 10+
Zeno is a 10+
Maha is arguably 20+
I don't think the 5 and downs that make up the rest of the phantom troupe is doing shit.
Killua is physically stronger than every single member of the phantom troupe bar MAYBE Uvo.
Like fuck, yorkshin gon literally wiped out multiple of them and he was physically weaker than killua back then.
You literally just stopped paying attention after yorkshin didn't you?
Binolt unironically would beat people like Kortopi, Paku, Shalnark, and Kalluto.
And gon and killua surpassed them like halfway through their training with bisky. Then within their training with kite and their experience, plus their training with knuckle and the other guy, they gained multiple more powerups.
Like the killua who escaped phinks grip (a top 50% member of the phantom troupe) is like 7 major power ups removed from the killua who exists now.
Rammot unironically kills Kortopi, Paku, Shalnark, Bonolenov, SHizuku, Phinks, Kalluto, and Uvo. I don't know enough about Nobunaga and Machi to know if they're dropped too.
Kite with one arm was able to prolong a fight with a royal guard with a bad spin.
A single royal guard would kill the entire phantom troupe.
"Remember them having trouble with support characters"
When? During yorkshin?
That's like saying android saga goku isn't a match against nappa because he couldn't beat raddiz.
Gon and Killua went on to train in greed island, then get one of the premiere teachers in the martial arts nen style that netero was a part of, who specializes in training people, to train them, where they go through like 5 different sets of power ups within said training, to the point that gon and killua even partway through the training couldn't defeat a massively hurt binolt going into the fight, then could individually beat him handily by the end. THen they continued to get stronger.
Then they got stronger during their time with kite.
THen they got stronger after kite's death to escape
Then they got stronger with knuckle and shoot was it?
Like fuck, is killua not a match for gido too by your logic?
"can't even beat a non-serious Genthru who is a tier below the phantom troupe"
Proof?
Genthru is easily upper end of phantom troupe leveled.
Also you need to stop treating phantom troupe as a level, when binolt beats multiple of them, they drastically vary in power.
"days of prep"
Yes because they went against meruem, the royal guards, palm, and ALL the squadron leaders and officers who remained.
The phantom troupe struggled with the weakest nen using squadron leader (a manipulator who tried to be an enhancer), 2-3 officers, and like 15 peons/drudges
Gon and Killua arguably defeat that force alone.
Phinks struggled with Gorilla, who only had basic nen and not hatsu. Gon PRE Knuckle training literally defeated 2 hatsu having chimera ant officers at once who were specifically teamed up because they worked perfectly together as a duo.
Killua literally killed like 12 officers pre shoot training, who had the jump on him, and armies of peons.
Phinks literally had to do 7-8 rotations with his hatsu to beat a fucking peon and he's stronger than multiple members of the phantom troupe.
Meanwhile Killua:
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That's 3 officers working together at the very least (maybe 4) and like 5 peons, being watched over by a squadron leader, versus not the strongest version of killua:
Killua literally kills officers with his bare hands, phinks needs 7-8 rotations to kill a peon.
Also let's not joke around, Killua wasn't just stunning youpi to no damage, he was making him reel like a human punched another human with each attack, obviously he can wasn't defeated, but literally speed increases damage, that's just how everything works, and even without said mode killua is already stronger than phinks without even using any hatsus multiplet imes over. So let's not act like killua wouldn't rip off literally every single phantom troupe members head with one attack. Killua doesn't even need god speed for anyone in the phantom troupe but illumi, chrollo, and hisoka, and he kills any of them with it unless chrollo has some kind of uno reverse nen ability hax like the one prince of kakin.
Netero, Morel, Knov, Knuckle, and Shoot didn't prep for Zazan. Netero prepped for Meruem.
Morel, Knuckle, and Shoot prepped for Youpi and Pouf.
Netero, Morel, and Knov killed all but 14 squadron leaders on their initial push, then got info about the royal guards and thus meruem above them on their power, and thus prepared.
I'm a little into the dark continent, like when the princes start getting killed, cuz I haven't really picked it up since the last hiatus came back yet, but up until that point, literally none of the zodiacs got into any fights.
Hisoka gave a 77 to Piyon, 85 to Kanzai, and 90 to Ginta.
He gave Illumi a 95.
None of the people there are the strongest zodiac. If we used illumi as a measuring stick, people like phinks might unironically be like 30.
So yes, if the zodiacs are a bit weaker than illumi and hisoka up to distinctly stronger than them, people who struggle with peons/officers like phinks aren't going to cut it.
I've disproven zodiac = zoldyck = pt
Also you don't have to be literally the strongest power in the world to be notorious or relevant.
It's a stupid argument, it'd be like saying "well russaia is weaker than america, therefore ummmmm, they are weak and how do they exist still then??? Therefore russia = america in military power"
I'm using facts, you're using feelings.
Phantom Trope are untouchable in comparison to random mafia families who are just now getting nen abilities. Yes the phantom troupe are stronger than the mafia family in yorkshin too that they defeated.
That doesn't really mean shit when you're comparing them to people like the zodiacs.
Bro is using Gandhi's 👳🙏✌ technique
Kurapika isnt the strongest. His skills only work against members of the spider. Any other criminal would be a problem for him.
Only one power that was the case for, and he even changed it later.
Not true. Only one out of the 5 nen abilities is used exclusively on the phantom troupe.
@@NUELAMOAKOH You cant say he is the strongest because he killed some of the most powerful villains in that world and say after that he doesnt need that power. He wouldnt killed the PT members without it, so without it, he wouldnt be one of the strongest people in HxH
@@M0V0P Read my message again
These are the strongest black- skip-
SPOILER FFS
So you just picked the first guy out of a hat bc you admit you know next to nothing about him, the 2nd guy has a strong ability but En is a thing so the opponent woulndt be completely without options at least I doubt it would be easy as you said if he was fighting a skilled nen user, and Kaprikas strongest ability can only be used on the spiders making him situationally strongest. Im gonna be honest I think you did 5 mins of resrarch and made a vid for views on a topic you seem to know very little about.
Pickacu glazing
Brother are you trying to butcher Kurapikas name? gave me a fuckin stroke
He said it correctly lmao
@@Smooth_operator32 no he did not wtf lmfao he butchered that shit
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Compare how he said it to how Kurapika himself said it, his Pronunciation is very good tbh
@@Smooth_operator32 brother you literally proving my point this bro didnt sound anything like that lol insane that you dont hear the difference
Kurapika is strong, but, he would be useless against other non-troop
Early on that is somewhat the case, but no worse than the other graduates of the exam.
Only one of his chains is like this, emperor time, and every single other ability do not have the limitations of chain jail. Kurapika has a bunch of other Hatsus, some of which can fill in for chain jail.
This logic would work on normal nen users. Kurapika isn't. Because of his Emperor Time he counters this, by using other types of abilities which he has no problem learning and using.
No true! Kurapika being deemed the strongest can be true but only if being used against the Phantom Troupe otherwise Kurapika is completely useless against any other character
His Jail Chain is useless against anyone else, but that doesn't make HIM useless against others... Emperor Time still maxes out every Nen Category, which is absolutely Broken in Combat >.>
@@durk5331 even that is only true to begin with, during the phantom troupe arc gon and hisoka make him realise its flaws and he changes it, creating two versions.
@@mandowarrior123 Which then means he has a version that covers its flaws? >.>
Lol, Kurapuka's strongest nen abilities can be used ONLY on spiders, so on other criminals he will suck.
Thats why Hisoka dont fight him - Kurapika is weak for him and more usefull as a tool.
@@BcnncDddd So, if not placed a big bid why they so strong? Mangaka forget own rules of nen strength or it is you?
@@BcnncDddd Wow, just like smoking a cigarette, what a bid. And last for 3 hours. To cost a year of his life he must be in Emperor Time around 3 years. BTW, I just dont like him.
Isn’t kurapika’s ability only strong against phantom troupe bc of a restriction she put on itC
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Wouldn’t the Zolics (can’t spell their name) be the strongest? Also his nen ability is only strong because it’s specifically for hunting the phantom troupe
It's his only ability with that limitation. ALL his other chains, and emperor time, are usable outside the spider. Some of them can even fulfil similar functions to chain jail.
@@abowden556 true but if you think abt it. The zolydics are around phantom troupe level. The grandfather himself went straight into the fight with the royale guards even if it was a short while. Kira pika has only been able to beat the phantom troupe with the help of his specific nen boost. So while I think he is definitely a strong nen user. He definitely isn’t the strongest
But Kurapika can't use his powers on non spiders, right? Is that powerful tho?
Only some of his abilities are restricted by that vow, Chain Jail being one of them, the rest can be used freely, he is still very powerful even when not fighting against the Spiders.
Nah, he can use loads of other abilities on non spiders, chain jail is the only ability with that restriction. he has a load of other chains that do different things.
What a dumb take