Thank You. Your video comparisons are by far the best of any available-You Tube, on-line or print reviews. I always learn from your presentations and am very appreciative.
Thank you for this comparison. I will need to choose a projector for my new dedicated room and those two are among the ones I'm considering. So far the Epson 5050 is the one I'm leaning toward. This comparison was very helpful. I love your videos.
I have a 1080p Epsom projector still very happy with it. I have a LG 4k 55" fantastic blacks great picture but I prefer the projector picture so subtle and 100" screen just more captivating. Epsom for me they know the game. Thanks for the video.
Wow. This was one of the best reviews Ove ever come across. Ive got a question I hope you'd be able to answer as well. Im getting the Epson. What calibration would be best for dark room, watching movies 1080p only, with deep blacks and least motion judder or blur? Is there documentation somewhete I could use? Thanks heaps.
I have always loved your video analysis....keep up the great work and this awesome channel. Love from India. Im sort of epson fan boy, it never ceases to amaze what they are able to pull each time. Im buying 6050 soon.
Just found your reviews. Amazing. Thank you. You mention the NX5 with the dynamic tone mapping. Have you don’t any comparisons between the 6050UB and the NX5 in regards to image detail, blacks, and HDR? Understand price point is higher on the nx5 but curious to your thoughts in performance of the 6050 vs nx5. My main use is movies and 4K gaming. From this review appears the Epson is very strong in resolution but concerned in future proof of the technology vs true 4K
Amazing review. I learned that resolution and sharpness are two different things - Even though the JVC address twice the number of pixels, the Epson is by far the sharpest! I was dead sure that you mixed up the pictures at 10:42, but then at 19:20 it is obvious that the JVC isn't as sharp because the colors are misaligned somewhat as the blue is clearly not centered to the rest of the colors. (Or how to express this in words). Could this be an error from your machine or is this an LCOS-phenomenon? Anywhow, I'm going to buy the 6050UB, it is truly amazing! Thanks for a first class review - One suggestion - As a clarification of the different lamp and color modes, it would help if you wrote which color mode AND lamp-mode you are using under the projector name. You nicely explained it to the viewer, however, sometimes I was unsure, as you changed the modes so many times. This is a very small detail though. Thanks again for a truly AWESOME channel!
It's not, actually the JVC is sharper but the fact that Epson has a much higher native contrast creates the illusion that it is sharper because details in both the shadows and in the bright areas are more visible. The same will happened if you see side by side this Epson and a eshieft D-ILA JVC like X7900, with high native contrast, despite the fact that they produce the same amount of pixels. By the way I hope you understood that this JVC here is not a LCOS, it's just a 0.47 chip DLP so it has nothing to do with those amazing D-ILA panels made by JVC.
Actually, in person they look almost identical at viewing distance due to the JVC Lens not being as sharp as the Epson but having more pixels. This JVC is DLP so not a LCOS issue but since this is the smaller .47 DLP and with the JVC lens not visably any better than the Epson. If you are a gamer or serious in-the-dark HT enthusiast the Epson would be a good choice. However, up close the JVC is much smoother and film like.
The Epson seems to have Motion Blur. More prosaicly - the frame 'ghosting' you normally get with interlaced video converted to progressive scan. I can't be the only one seeing this. It's not noticable in most of this video, since it doesn't address motion handling at all, and the clips are probably 30/60fps digital video. But you can see it in the handful of shots from movies shot in 24fps. It's possible the Epson had frame blending/interpolation/creation settings turned on - in which case this might explain it. Problem is I've seen this effect in a few other reviews, and not one of them has addressed this. Would hugely appreciate some clarification - as out of all the compromises in projectors costing less than a new car, motion artifacts making film look like video, are by far the biggest deal breaker for me.
This is a great video thank you. I recently purchased an Epson EH-TW9400 and can’t make my mind up if I prefer watching 1080p natively or upscaled. I have the Spears & Munsil but never tried out this test pattern. Thanks !
I believe the JVC uses the same DLP chip as the BenQ HT5550. I know its a different class in terms of price, but would love to see one of your reviews on it.
Thank you for the suggestion, we will consider that for the future, however the Benq drops to below 900 lumens with the filter in place so it will really depend on your application.
I have been waiting for a long time for a quality review of the jvc. Thank you. Although I must say I am still torn between the two. We watch a lot of tv and movies in our living room. Thus making laser seem like a must. I’m just concerned about the life expectancy of the epson or I would have got it long ago...
Thank you, yes, that is a tough choice if the main application is for some lights on in a living room. either would work fine but I would probably lean towards the JVC due to the fact that it would not be a big deal if left on and no lamp to worry about long term.
This just makes me curious what epson will come out with as the next iteration. Sub €3000 jvc is just not as good as the epson. They are amazing in higher priced tiers though
Comprehensive review thank you Ted, outstanding work. I took the plunge on purchasing the Epson 6050UB or TW9400 in Australia and awaiting delivery. Is the 6050UB optimized calibration setting available?
We do not publish our calibration settings because every projector is different. For example if yours is slightly towards the yellow side of D65 and the one we did was slightly green and you put our settings in yours you would end up with a very yellow image and skin tones would be sickly looking. You are best to use your factory settings and if and when you have someone with a color meter then set your color balance and CMS calibration.
Thank You for the very detailed & objective review! I have a request for a side by side shootout at a similar price point. JVC LX-NZ3B Vs Hisense PX1-PRO TriChroma Laser UST Thank you in advance for your consideration, BC Rigg
Hello! I can't find comparison between Epson EB-L400U and Epson 6050UB for home theater. Could you tell something about it? (black levels, HDR?, absence of "4K" resolution, laser technology advantages) Thanks. And great comparison here between JVC nad Epson!
If you're like to speak to someone about this, and what you're looking for specifically, and discuss the needs of your own environment, please call us and speak to a professional here at 801-486-5757 (M-F 9am - 6pm MST).
It would be very helpful to see a head to head review between the JVC LX-NZ3 vs Optoma UHZ-65. Considering the price of the Optoma seems to be dropping they are in close competition. I keep wondering if Optoma is planning to come out with a new model for the UHZ-65 or will they just continue to do software updates and keep the old model?
Actually the price of the UHZ65 has actually gone up to $4,519 due to the new tariffs now in place. The JVC LX-NZ3 is in a very different class due to its lack of deep blacks and good brightness and why JVC has designated it as a media or living room projector. For some lights on the JVC would be the best choice for lights off the UHZ65 due to its better blacks.
Unfortunately, no. We had the UHZ65LV for some time and had considered doing an upgrade to it, as we have with the UHZ65, but, after modifications, calibrations, and much testing, we found that although the UHZ65LV has higher brightness, we were unable to achieve the black levels, color balance and brightness we were hoping for. We just weren’t able to get enough brightness out of it to compete with the Theo-Z65 lite and the UHZ65. Although we did do side-by-side comparisons, it was not recorded by the person who compared it (it was not Ted that did the comparisons), due to the time and effort it takes to set up and calibrated the camera, configure audio and mic, etc.
Thanks for the nice video. What do you think of the use of a data projector like Epson EB-L615U as a home theater projector? its WUXGA but has 6,000 Lumens and 2,500,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio.
Hi , we are installing projector in the garage , there is 3 roll up gates , so its not super dark at day time . Can you please suggest what projector would you go with ( in general, not out of these 2 ) I was thinking to install Epson 6050 and thats how I found your video :) , but maybe you can suggest something else . Thank you
For more information and/or to help you more personally, please call us during business hours (M-F 9am - 6pm MST) and someone can personally help you with your situation and can ask further questions to help them understand what your preferences are - then can give you guidance and recommendations that would be best for you.
We do not post the calibration settings as the fine white balance and CMS settings are unique to each projector even of the same model. For example if this WB was towards the green side of D6500 and yours was slightly towards the red side and you put in our settings you may actually make yours worse. We would suggest you use the Spears and Munsil UHD calibration disc and you would at least be able to set the color, tint, brightness and contrast for optimum performance. We would suggest leaving the WB and CMS to experienced calibrators with color meters.
Yes, if you are sensitive to DLP rainbow effects the JVC using a RGBY filter as most Laser DLP projectors do, will be visible. We do not measure delay but most reviews indicate it is not suitable for serious gamers.
10:36 - why are you trying so hard not to avoid the fact that the JVC looks like utter crap when compared to the Epson in this particular segment? Anyone looking at this on a decent 4k display can clearly see how much clearer the Epson is on the next few shots.
I expected more from JVC to be honest. This projector doesn't touch the native contrast and the blacks of the Optoma UHZ, a projector that is already 2 years old...
Yes, but keep in mind the UHZ65 uses the larger .66 DLP with higher resolution and contrast and is significantly higher light output (measured) than either of these projectors.
@@Tvspecialists just bought the 6050 (european version) couple of days ago. Image is amazing. I am curious though, how are the black levels of the Sony 295es compared with this Epson. I guess you have seen them if not side by side at last in the same room, on the same screen. I know that Sony have better native contrast but it lacks the iris . If I have to guess I would say that the black levels are roughly the same?
If you're like to speak to a professional, and you're in the US, please call us at 801-486-5757 (M-F 9am-6pm) and they can help you with your particular needs and discuss ambient light, screen size, etc.
If you look carefully at 11:40 to about 12:00 and compare skin tones you will see how close they really are. They are different but both did a great job on skin tones which is the most critical test for most viewers. If your monitor is set up properly you will see some skin tones look better on one part of the scene and the other may look better on another part as it is very subjective and both are very good on calibration charts.
@@tedbollinger3306 I did notice that other colors looked more even, but the whites were quite different. The scene with the white house was stark. After watching the video I found the associated blog post write up, and in there it does mention that the Epson has a slightly cooler tone that is more evident in the photos than in person.
are you refering to the colors in the video or in person? Keep in mind, these videos can be used as a guideline, but are not the same as seeing them in person, as the camera picks it up differently than your eye does, not to mention it will vary depending on the device you are watching youtube on, and the color settings on those displays. In peson, I personally don't feel that the epson has "cartoon-ish" colors or is oversaturated.
@@TheaterAtReference are you using the natural mode? After a proper calibration all this projectors should have the same colors . The main difference will be black level, contrast, resolution and light output but colors should look the same on displays that are able to reach close to 100% rec709
Yes, it should. If you change while having a freeze frame of good skin tone images, you should see significantly better and more accurate (less green and yellow) flesh tones in the bright cinema mode. Dynamic is max bright and trades off best color for brighter image.
The poor quality of the lenses of epson produce evident artifacts and also annoying abberations on angle of images , the durable of laser lamps of jvc is a real deal ad important advantages of this tecnology and also the durability of dmd light engine and his image quality in time
This is an amazing review. Very few others on youtube are even close to this level of useful detail in their projector reviews/comparisons!
Now THIS is a great, comprehensive comparison. Really excellent work, and probably the best on UA-cam. Fantastic. Keep it up, sir.
Thank You. Your video comparisons are by far the best of any available-You Tube, on-line or print reviews. I always learn from your presentations and am very appreciative.
Thank you for this comparison. I will need to choose a projector for my new dedicated room and those two are among the ones I'm considering. So far the Epson 5050 is the one I'm leaning toward. This comparison was very helpful. I love your videos.
I have a 1080p Epsom projector still very happy with it. I have a LG 4k 55" fantastic blacks great picture but I prefer the projector picture so subtle and 100" screen just more captivating. Epsom for me they know the game. Thanks for the video.
Wow. This was one of the best reviews Ove ever come across. Ive got a question I hope you'd be able to answer as well. Im getting the Epson. What calibration would be best for dark room, watching movies 1080p only, with deep blacks and least motion judder or blur? Is there documentation somewhete I could use? Thanks heaps.
I have always loved your video analysis....keep up the great work and this awesome channel. Love from India. Im sort of epson fan boy, it never ceases to amaze what they are able to pull each time. Im buying 6050 soon.
Good, thanks. You mixed up the Epson with the JVC a few times, but we got it.
We noticed that too - sorry for the mix ups!
Just found your reviews. Amazing. Thank you. You mention the NX5 with the dynamic tone mapping. Have you don’t any comparisons between the 6050UB and the NX5 in regards to image detail, blacks, and HDR? Understand price point is higher on the nx5 but curious to your thoughts in performance of the 6050 vs nx5. My main use is movies and 4K gaming. From this review appears the Epson is very strong in resolution but concerned in future proof of the technology vs true 4K
Amazing review. I learned that resolution and sharpness are two different things - Even though the JVC address twice the number of pixels, the Epson is by far the sharpest! I was dead sure that you mixed up the pictures at 10:42, but then at 19:20 it is obvious that the JVC isn't as sharp because the colors are misaligned somewhat as the blue is clearly not centered to the rest of the colors. (Or how to express this in words). Could this be an error from your machine or is this an LCOS-phenomenon? Anywhow, I'm going to buy the 6050UB, it is truly amazing! Thanks for a first class review - One suggestion - As a clarification of the different lamp and color modes, it would help if you wrote which color mode AND lamp-mode you are using under the projector name. You nicely explained it to the viewer, however, sometimes I was unsure, as you changed the modes so many times. This is a very small detail though. Thanks again for a truly AWESOME channel!
It's not, actually the JVC is sharper but the fact that Epson has a much higher native contrast creates the illusion that it is sharper because details in both the shadows and in the bright areas are more visible. The same will happened if you see side by side this Epson and a eshieft D-ILA JVC like X7900, with high native contrast, despite the fact that they produce the same amount of pixels. By the way I hope you understood that this JVC here is not a LCOS, it's just a 0.47 chip DLP so it has nothing to do with those amazing D-ILA panels made by JVC.
Actually, in person they look almost identical at viewing distance due to the JVC Lens not being as sharp as the Epson but having more pixels. This JVC is DLP so not a LCOS issue but since this is the smaller .47 DLP and with the JVC lens not visably any better than the Epson. If you are a gamer or serious in-the-dark HT enthusiast the Epson would be a good choice. However, up close the JVC is much smoother and film like.
The Epson seems to have Motion Blur. More prosaicly - the frame 'ghosting' you normally get with interlaced video converted to progressive scan.
I can't be the only one seeing this.
It's not noticable in most of this video, since it doesn't address motion handling at all, and the clips are probably 30/60fps digital video. But you can see it in the handful of shots from movies shot in 24fps.
It's possible the Epson had frame blending/interpolation/creation settings turned on - in which case this might explain it. Problem is I've seen this effect in a few other reviews, and not one of them has addressed this.
Would hugely appreciate some clarification - as out of all the compromises in projectors costing less than a new car, motion artifacts making film look like video, are by far the biggest deal breaker for me.
You must be blind..lmao!
@@docwho10th88 Irony abounds..
Very good comparison. What´s about the fan noise? I´d like to see this test including the new LG HU810. Thanks.
This is a great video thank you. I recently purchased an Epson EH-TW9400 and can’t make my mind up if I prefer watching 1080p natively or upscaled. I have the Spears & Munsil but never tried out this test pattern. Thanks !
I believe the JVC uses the same DLP chip as the BenQ HT5550. I know its a different class in terms of price, but would love to see one of your reviews on it.
Thank you for the suggestion, we will consider that for the future, however the Benq drops to below 900 lumens with the filter in place so it will really depend on your application.
I have been waiting for a long time for a quality review of the jvc. Thank you. Although I must say I am still torn between the two. We watch a lot of tv and movies in our living room. Thus making laser seem like a must. I’m just concerned about the life expectancy of the epson or I would have got it long ago...
Thank you, yes, that is a tough choice if the main application is for some lights on in a living room. either would work fine but I would probably lean towards the JVC due to the fact that it would not be a big deal if left on and no lamp to worry about long term.
This just makes me curious what epson will come out with as the next iteration. Sub €3000 jvc is just not as good as the epson. They are amazing in higher priced tiers though
Not that much better and the brightness is so much better on the Epson
Comprehensive review thank you Ted, outstanding work. I took the plunge on purchasing the Epson 6050UB or TW9400 in Australia and awaiting delivery. Is the 6050UB optimized calibration setting available?
We do not publish our calibration settings because every projector is different. For example if yours is slightly towards the yellow side of D65 and the one we did was slightly green and you put our settings in yours you would end up with a very yellow image and skin tones would be sickly looking. You are best to use your factory settings and if and when you have someone with a color meter then set your color balance and CMS calibration.
Do I need an ALR screen with the JVC? Seems like I wouldn't since its a short throw projector and not an ultra short throw.
What CMS settings do you use for HDR in Bright Cinema mode?
Wow!! By far one of the best reviews i have seen. Very informative
Thank You for the very detailed & objective review! I have a request for a side by side shootout at a similar price point.
JVC LX-NZ3B
Vs
Hisense PX1-PRO TriChroma Laser UST
Thank you in advance for your consideration,
BC Rigg
Blues Greens are out of the chart on JVC...Epson way to go
Hello! I can't find comparison between Epson EB-L400U and Epson 6050UB for home theater. Could you tell something about it? (black levels, HDR?, absence of "4K" resolution, laser technology advantages) Thanks. And great comparison here between JVC nad Epson!
If you're like to speak to someone about this, and what you're looking for specifically, and discuss the needs of your own environment, please call us and speak to a professional here at 801-486-5757 (M-F 9am - 6pm MST).
Excellent by Espson projectors performance is very good-Jay Bharat
Excellent! I wish they added laser to the NX5. I would definitely sell my car to buy it!
For 8 to 10k upgrade I'd be with it.
It would be very helpful to see a head to head review between the JVC LX-NZ3 vs Optoma UHZ-65. Considering the price of the Optoma seems to be dropping they are in close competition. I keep wondering if Optoma is planning to come out with a new model for the UHZ-65 or will they just continue to do software updates and keep the old model?
Actually the price of the UHZ65 has actually gone up to $4,519 due to the new tariffs now in place. The JVC LX-NZ3 is in a very different class due to its lack of deep blacks and good brightness and why JVC has designated it as a media or living room projector. For some lights on the JVC would be the best choice for lights off the UHZ65 due to its better blacks.
@@Tvspecialists In Australia, the LX-NZ3 and the Optoma UHZ50 are pretty much the same price. I'd like to see THAT comparison.
Hi, are you going to review the Optoma UHZ65LV or compare it to another projector (like the UHZ65) ? Thanks for your excelent and informative videos!
Unfortunately, no. We had the UHZ65LV for some time and had considered doing an upgrade to it, as we have with the UHZ65, but, after modifications, calibrations, and much testing, we found that although the UHZ65LV has higher brightness, we were unable to achieve the black levels, color balance and brightness we were hoping for. We just weren’t able to get enough brightness out of it to compete with the Theo-Z65 lite and the UHZ65. Although we did do side-by-side comparisons, it was not recorded by the person who compared it (it was not Ted that did the comparisons), due to the time and effort it takes to set up and calibrated the camera, configure audio and mic, etc.
Thanks for the nice video. What do you think of the use of a data projector like Epson EB-L615U as a home theater projector? its WUXGA but has 6,000 Lumens and 2,500,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio.
Hi , we are installing projector in the garage , there is 3 roll up gates , so its not super dark at day time . Can you please suggest what projector would you go with ( in general, not out of these 2 )
I was thinking to install Epson 6050 and thats how I found your video :) , but maybe you can suggest something else . Thank you
For more information and/or to help you more personally, please call us during business hours (M-F 9am - 6pm MST) and someone can personally help you with your situation and can ask further questions to help them understand what your preferences are - then can give you guidance and recommendations that would be best for you.
I wonder why they stopped doing these great videos.
Great review, thank you! 👍
Great video... best I have ever seen in youtube
Could you post your settings for the JVC? Would like to see what you guys came up with during the calibration process!
We do not post the calibration settings as the fine white balance and CMS settings are unique to each projector even of the same model. For example if this WB was towards the green side of D6500 and yours was slightly towards the red side and you put in our settings you may actually make yours worse. We would suggest you use the Spears and Munsil UHD calibration disc and you would at least be able to set the color, tint, brightness and contrast for optimum performance. We would suggest leaving the WB and CMS to experienced calibrators with color meters.
Why does the JVC look so blurry? Like the woman in the blue shaw, the entire shaw was like out of focus while on the epson it was perfectly focused.
Excellent comparison.
Can you please review the barco bragi native cinescope?
At 5:28 you mixed up the Epson with the JVC. But I think most people understand what you meant.
Is there a clearly visible rainbow effect with JVC? And is it so that the input lag is approx. 50ms?
Yes, if you are sensitive to DLP rainbow effects the JVC using a RGBY filter as most Laser DLP projectors do, will be visible. We do not measure delay but most reviews indicate it is not suitable for serious gamers.
It's not rainbow effect noob...it's artifacts with differences between projector lens and camera shutter speed...
Does anyone know what demo uses the bird scenes...?
The birds are from the Spears and Munsil UHD HDR Benchmark calibration disc as mentioned at 28:48, thanks for watching.
@@Tvspecialists thanks Ted!👍🙏
Big thanks for the incredible effort
Will the black level difference between jvc and epson be eliminated by using alr screen?
No, they would both be effected, but the JVC will still have better blacks because natively it has better black levels.
10:36 - why are you trying so hard not to avoid the fact that the JVC looks like utter crap when compared to the Epson in this particular segment? Anyone looking at this on a decent 4k display can clearly see how much clearer the Epson is on the next few shots.
WOW! Great job!
I expected more from JVC to be honest. This projector doesn't touch the native contrast and the blacks of the Optoma UHZ, a projector that is already 2 years old...
Yes, but keep in mind the UHZ65 uses the larger .66 DLP with higher resolution and contrast and is significantly higher light output (measured) than either of these projectors.
@@Tvspecialists just bought the 6050 (european version) couple of days ago. Image is amazing. I am curious though, how are the black levels of the Sony 295es compared with this Epson. I guess you have seen them if not side by side at last in the same room, on the same screen. I know that Sony have better native contrast but it lacks the iris . If I have to guess I would say that the black levels are roughly the same?
Get a"real,"jvc" and it still destroy the optoma toy and any other projector in terms of blacks, contrast, etc. Don't fool yourself
@@shaolin95 of course but this LX NZ3 is just an ,,Optoma'' with JVC logo on it, nothing else so don't fool yourself ;)
@@shaolin95 Troll
The JVC LX NZ3 it's better than the Vava 4k projector with ambient light? And what size screen projection can give both?
If you're like to speak to a professional, and you're in the US, please call us at 801-486-5757 (M-F 9am-6pm) and they can help you with your particular needs and discuss ambient light, screen size, etc.
Just a pity that JVC haven't gone down the path of having the .66 chip in them as yet, because NOTHING would come close to it...
We need a JVC NX5/RS1000 comparison.
These are actually the same projector. The only difference is the distribution channel they are available from.
@@Tvspecialists I know I would like to see how it stacks up against a competitor.
JVC has a very yellow tint - looks wrong. Is that just the camera? Can't believe that's not being mentioned.
If you look carefully at 11:40 to about 12:00 and compare skin tones you will see how close they really are. They are different but both did a great job on skin tones which is the most critical test for most viewers. If your monitor is set up properly you will see some skin tones look better on one part of the scene and the other may look better on another part as it is very subjective and both are very good on calibration charts.
@@tedbollinger3306 I did notice that other colors looked more even, but the whites were quite different. The scene with the white house was stark. After watching the video I found the associated blog post write up, and in there it does mention that the Epson has a slightly cooler tone that is more evident in the photos than in person.
I think lcd and laser are best combo
quindi come vedo e meglio l opson?
problem I have with the Epson is the unnatural colors . everything looks overly emphasized neon like colors somewhat "cartoon-ish"
are you refering to the colors in the video or in person? Keep in mind, these videos can be used as a guideline, but are not the same as seeing them in person, as the camera picks it up differently than your eye does, not to mention it will vary depending on the device you are watching youtube on, and the color settings on those displays. In peson, I personally don't feel that the epson has "cartoon-ish" colors or is oversaturated.
@@mikebpiper in person. I still have the 6050 and don't like the "neon" like colors . but I put up with it because of the brightness and contrast.
@@TheaterAtReference are you using the natural mode? After a proper calibration all this projectors should have the same colors . The main difference will be black level, contrast, resolution and light output but colors should look the same on displays that are able to reach close to 100% rec709
The Epson is far better.
Not sure why, but dynamic on my epson outperforms bright cinema.
Yes, it should. If you change while having a freeze frame of good skin tone images, you should see significantly better and more accurate (less green and yellow) flesh tones in the bright cinema mode. Dynamic is max bright and trades off best color for brighter image.
EPSON IS THE BEST
The poor quality of the lenses of epson produce evident artifacts and also annoying abberations on angle of images , the durable of laser lamps of jvc is a real deal ad important advantages of this tecnology and also the durability of dmd light engine and his image quality in time
Ça wobule donc pas du vrai 4K donc pas intéressant.