Matt Nolan Custom: In the Workshop
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Here's a video shot - wonderfully - by Andy McCreeth. I use it without sound when I do exhibitions and shows around the world. It helps to say, without words, what it is that I do.
For the purposes of youtube, I have put a bit of improvised percussion music under it - "One Heartbeat in Three" by The Birdman, The Baron & The Bat, a sculptural percussion trio of Steve Hubback, Tony Orrell and me. Check out more at / birdmanbaronbat
The video shows various different aspects of my cymbal and gong crafting processes. Marking out and cutting metal, different stages of hammering, one of the extreme heat processes I use on Bronze and some aspects of surface decoration.
Check my youtube channel for actual demonstrations of some of the instruments that I make.
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Video footage © 2009 A McCreeth
Background Music © 2008 S Hubback, T Orrell & M Nolan
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thank you so much for your inspiring way of DO IT YOURSELF life.... i really enjoy seeing your works!....i'm trying to do my best my yet i've got to find the right way!...thanx a lot matt!
Beautiful cymbals, I'm hoping someday I will be able to buy some
Thanks for the advice I really appreciate it!
@MattNolanCustom thank you so much
I think you videos are great!
I'm definitely intrigued by your cymblas, too...
;-)
Absolutely superb Matt! Loving it :)
Hi Owen. PB103 is a little soft. You can make rides for lighter playing styles with it, and gongs, but for crashes and hi-hats it may dent up when played hard.
thanks, it should be quite interesting
@MattNolanCustom soon i'll post ( if u don't mind ;-)...) the third one i'm doing , it's a big boy!...and it's stainless steel!....thanx again.....
you are the leonardo da vinci of cymbal making !
Standard angle grinder, 4-1/2" cutting disc - very thin cutting disc though - 0.8mm thick. OK for curring cracks out of cymbals but be careful not to get the cymbal hot (i.e. work slowly, possibly cool with water, etc.) If you get any discoloration from heat on a B20 Bronze cymbal then you have likely made it brittle at that point.
@allmetaliswelcome with the fire there I am tempering the bronze before hammering. It makes the metal somewhat softer and allows it to be less stressed by the hammering
I am a professional cymbal maker. This is my full time job. Check out some of my newer videos.
hey matt, what are you doing with the fire? what affect does it have on the cymbal?
@kshepthedrummer Look at existing cymbals. Look at them closely. See how they flex or don't flex. Tap all around their surface with a stick and see how the sound changes as you move about.
Look up the writings of the late great Mike Skiba on hammering. Craig Lauritsen has some notes too. Both these guys can explain it better than me.
Good luck! Wear hearing protection and have fun!!
Hi Matt, i was wondering if you could give me any tips on making a cymbal. I'm planning on making a crash, maybe a china, and maybe some effects cymbals out of some scrap stainless steel as a weekend project. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
p.s. Your cymbals are beautiful and sound amazing :)
@75Tatanka Go for it my friend! Find your own way and your own voice and bring it to the world ;-)
Hey Matt, Is that just a standard angle grinder you're using to cut the cymbals out? I'm wondering if it'd be the best method for repairing a cracked cymbal I have.
Oh are the actually?! My bad - that's just me getting mixed up!
Ahh okay that's what I needed :) I was just wondering about the average thickness.
Cheers!x
@MattNolanCustom....ok so i tried makin an 18" crash ride with some 20 gauge....but it ended up like a fine tuned trash can haha....is this possibly due to the series of stainless that i used?....cuz i have no idea what series it was...... or is 20 gauge to heavy for an 18".....also is there any info for cymbal making out there. Im just interested in making cymbals for my kit. And i have the tools and metal working experience but i think there is something that im missing haha
Yes, you could. Why not give it a go? Don't forget hearing protection while you hammer. And take it slowly. Hammer a little and see how it changed. Then maybe hammer a little more.
Found this video researching gong sounds. Beautifully done video. I and my three month old were mesmerized. Now I must clean the drool off of the floor - his, not mine!
hi matt, i was wondering if i could turn my old sabian b8s into different sounding cymbals by hammering them, thanks.
Hey Matt awesome wrk. I've hammered old cymbals for months now and I wana start hammering sheet metal. I've seen talk about importing b8 and b20 from turkey but I can't find anything online. Can u help me, exact company's of where to order from/price?
@jrk4295 20 gauge would be about right for that. English SWG that is. I think American AWG is a little thinner - maybe too thin. But you say trash can, which sounds more like clunky. Look at other cymbals. Look at them closely, Feel them. Then make another 18" crash-ride...
Exceptional work. Really enjoyed the audio! Inspiring.
Impressive work! No less impressive is the music playing in this video, where can I hear more?
The music is from a percussion trio I played in - ua-cam.com/users/BirdmanBaronBat
Which Tiger cymbals? UFIP make Tiger Cymbals. I make cymbals from 0.6mm to 2mm in thickness, mostly.
Oh one other thing! With bronze, is Pb103 CuSn6 (phosphor bronze) a suitable alloy?
Thanks again!
do you have any meinle paiste zildjian or sabian cymbals or just your homade cymbals.
Hey what gauges are your bronze and stainless sheets that you start with?
Where do you buy the metal for your cymbals for and what do you tend to use (thickness and type of metal)?
Cheers!
@screamoc1 Time and Money? It is what I do! I make them and I sell them. There is Tin in my Bronze cymbals, but none in my Stainless Steel cymbals. Sabian and Zildjian make some great cymbals. Mine don't really compare. They're like a different animal. Totally hand-hammered, including the cups. Each one individual and made from start to finish by me. Check some other videos here. Listen for yourself.
I'm trying to decrease the diameter by about an inch. Is there a better way to go about that?
@jrk4295 That depends upon what it is that I am making. Mainly from 22 swg to 14 swg
Turkish B20 blanks - try Amedia Cymbals.
What is that tool you are using at 7:37?
Hmm, well, without a lathe, no not really. Use an angle-grinder or dremel with a little cutting disc and go really slowly. Don't cut all the way through at once - first cut a shallow groove, then deeper, then deeper, then through. Or find a local metal work company who have a water-jet cutter and ask them to do it for you.
Hi Owen,
I use many different metals of many different thicknesses, depending on the cymbal I am going to make. I buy it from several different sources from a few different countries and, in most cases, I have to buy a very large amount at once.
Ah ok so you bulk buy - that makes sense.
Can you give me an average thickness (in mm) of one of your tiger cymbals for example? Cheers, and thanks for the quick reply!
How do u make the bell?
No. It is the law. However, I'm not in California, I'm in England.
Are you allowed to make custom cymbals in California if your name isn't Matt? ;-)
Hi SgtBonBon. All you need is earplugs, a hammer and some patience.
Damn it, who let him out of the mythbusters lab?!?! haaha!
Now I have to ask, the batwing gongs I saw in another video (and other gongs), are any of these available in a sample library?
It might sound like a daft question, but why dont bronze cymbals crack when they have been hammered so much? Doesnt the hammering work harden the metal and make it brittle? Do you ever need to anneal the metal (is that what you did in the video when you put the cymbal in a water quench?) Do you temper them to make them strong but not brittle?
Hello. You are right that the hammering work hardens the metal. As cast, it is brittle as glass. It needs to be quenched in cold water from a fairly specific temperature before working, which leaves it too soft to be a finished cymbal, then you work harden it as you shape it. Careful balance!
Thanks for your helpful replies Matt.
So is it ok to ask, what should the temperature/colour be when you go from heating to quench, to correctly anneal or soften a bronze blank to make it fit for hammering into a new form?
Many thanks, Jonathan
Hi Jonathan. Somewhere around 700 degrees Celsius. Hold it at temperature for a while before quenching to ensure the whole thing is even and that it has had time for the crystal microstructure to come to equilibrium. Especially if it is a thick piece.
Thanks Matt, I'll try again on the bronze. It came from a stagg ride cymbal that is about 2 1/2 mm thick AT THE EDGE LOL
I just saw one of Lance capeau's videos he reckons B20 is not a good idea to start with...
Is it worth devising up a little baffle/brick kiln arrangement help in getting an even temp? I use a plumbers torch (whatever I have) and it struggles at times to heat a larger piece all to the same colour at the same time. Bronze pike lures would be great!
Thanks again, Jonathan
Yes. If you can contain the heat and lose less of it into the surrounding air then your torch will do better