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  • Опубліковано 27 лют 2024
  • Join Paramount+ in celebrating Black History Month on Stargaze as Star Trek: Discovery's Sonequa Martin-Green and Star Trek: Lower Decks' Tawny Newsome discuss the importance of black narratives across various genres including sci-fi. They share insights on their career paths, the influence of their roles on the image of black women, and the ongoing quest for authentic representation in Hollywood.
    Stargaze provides audiences with a front-row seat to gaze at conversations between the underrepresented stars on screen who bring diverse characters to life and behind the camera who shape their narratives.
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  • @samtamoglia7335
    @samtamoglia7335 3 місяці тому +158

    Now I need Captain Burnham & Mariner to meet up in canon.

    • @daneyoshida
      @daneyoshida 3 місяці тому +4

      Hopefully that happens on Lower Decks somehow!

    • @3of19
      @3of19 3 місяці тому

      @@daneyoshidaI mean the story about how Black women are often erased from history basically writes itself here.

    • @francescozenocchini4428
      @francescozenocchini4428 3 місяці тому

      That would be gold.

    • @DLZ2000
      @DLZ2000 3 місяці тому +6

      @@daneyoshidamore likely in the Academy show. Maybe Burnham visits the Academy and pulls up a file on Mariner.

    • @jadynduropan
      @jadynduropan 3 місяці тому +3

      That would be interesting because they're both in each other's past and futures

  • @LadyPenelope
    @LadyPenelope 3 місяці тому +204

    I'm a lifelong Trekkie, and Sonequa in Discovery did NOT disappoint. She is fantastic and I wish she would be in Star Trek forever.

    • @lawrencereid2767
      @lawrencereid2767 3 місяці тому +12

      Preach

    • @artan6042
      @artan6042 3 місяці тому +3

      the only self absorbed super hero i am the main character person in star trek. no thanks.

    • @cprince7609
      @cprince7609 3 місяці тому +29

      ​@@artan6042 Yes! And his name is James T. Kirk. But that's what I like about him. The confidence, the leadership, and at times the swagger. Burnham's no different, and I'm here for it : )

    • @michaelf1847
      @michaelf1847 3 місяці тому +13

      @@artan6042Booooring! SS9 wasn't mostly Cisko? Picard about Picard? Discovery has tons of great characters.

    • @michaelf1847
      @michaelf1847 3 місяці тому +4

      I just wanted to write that

  • @stellangios
    @stellangios 3 місяці тому +144

    Producers: “be normal “
    Tawny: hold my kiln

  • @cjayconrod
    @cjayconrod 3 місяці тому +152

    Literally, my two favorite Star Trek actors in conversation. I couldn't be happier.

    • @ScottFoust
      @ScottFoust 3 місяці тому +5

      You could be happier. You could have been on the Star Trek Cruise that my wife and I just returned from. They wear both on the ship this year. Sooooo much fun.

    • @cjayconrod
      @cjayconrod 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ScottFoust you win.

  • @MacrossLoversAgain
    @MacrossLoversAgain 3 місяці тому +75

    I love their wholesomeness and honesty. We need to see these two ladies in a 6 episode mini series all to themselves!

    • @brankob8697
      @brankob8697 3 місяці тому +2

      More than 6 episodes please. Would love it to be a regular weekly occurrence.

    • @KingfisherTalkingPictures
      @KingfisherTalkingPictures 3 місяці тому

      I’d love to see them together. Mariner is bringing a pizza to the gang and trips into a cryogenic freezer and wakes up a thousand years later. She settles into the future, and is bringing a pizza to Michael and trips & falls into the guardian of forever. The gang doesn’t know she was away.

  • @ajwalker4416
    @ajwalker4416 3 місяці тому +36

    I'm going to miss Sonequa and Star Trek: Discovery 😢 So wonderful to see these two together even though I am not a fan of Star Trek: Lower Decks but I appreciate her work.

  • @mgelliott1
    @mgelliott1 3 місяці тому +47

    As a Star Trek fan, and a POC, I can't overstate how proud I am of the two of you on your awesome shows. Representation matters and I feel lucky to be a viewer in this current age of Star Trek. Watching this awesome video, I felt like I was hanging out with my 2 sisters in my parents living room! God Bless.

    • @therealryan1329
      @therealryan1329 3 місяці тому +4

      Representation only matters to those who are obsessed with race.

    • @DunedinMultimedia2
      @DunedinMultimedia2 3 місяці тому +4

      @@therealryan1329 you sad little man

    • @therealryan1329
      @therealryan1329 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DunedinMultimedia2 by stating a fairly logical fact? I don't need to "see" myself in everything. I can relate to characters regardless of race or gender.

    • @cloudwatcher608
      @cloudwatcher608 3 місяці тому +5

      @@therealryan1329 Did you watch the whole video? I think they laid out a pretty reasonable case for representation producing better content. When writers just try to shoehorn representation into a script, it's always garbage. However, when writers who do bring a variety of life experiences to the table get together and write compelling characters, we all win. You can see that with DS9. Sisko and Jake, a black father and son, are a highlight of that show. It works not because they are black, but the fact that they are made their roles that much more powerful, especially during a time in which familial male intimacy was rarely shown in popular culture, much less between a black father and son. Through the lens of Star Trek, the fact that they are black is irrelevant; but in the real world, demonstrating it can make a real difference.

    • @jerkinmcdikus6603
      @jerkinmcdikus6603 3 місяці тому

      Yeah because lieutenant uhura was never in Star Trek oh wait she was you idiot

  • @levinemgl1
    @levinemgl1 3 місяці тому +39

    I met Sonequa last month and she's even more awesome in person.
    Also, she's the best Star Trek has ever had.

    • @murrvvmurr
      @murrvvmurr 3 місяці тому +1

      Do YOU know of 32nd century hair braiding logistics?

  • @blanketfortressofsolitude5270
    @blanketfortressofsolitude5270 3 місяці тому +21

    Dude, her mirror universe Michael Burnham was the best! SMG does unhinged in a gleefully way that was captivating.

  • @jefetters7182
    @jefetters7182 3 місяці тому +39

    Tawny is a queen. Period.

  • @CJStrickland
    @CJStrickland 3 місяці тому +9

    I'm so proud of these powerful black queens! Thank you for showing the best of us, the strength of us, the resilience of us, the good of us. Thank you both so much!

  • @malagasylisa1680
    @malagasylisa1680 3 місяці тому +41

    She had me at “We gonna cry today?” 💜

  • @thobeka_lee
    @thobeka_lee 3 місяці тому +36

    the thing with the box braids really excited my imagination about what could be done with programmable matter. PROGRAMMABLE MATTER HAIR EXTENSIONS that can also turn into… tools? weapons? whatever you want? repair split ends whaaaaat

  • @wordyblerd7723
    @wordyblerd7723 3 місяці тому +33

    I really enjoyed this conversation. I appreciate what they had to say about their experiences in life and in the industry. I'd love to hear them talk about some fun silly nerdy topics too. Thanks for sharing Paramount.

  • @morebaileyskim
    @morebaileyskim 3 місяці тому +11

    This was such a pleasure to watch. I expected it to be the usual front for the cameras but they actually got in to some really poignant stuff here. As Star Trek fans we are so so lucky to have the talent we have working on these shows and these two are a prime example. Also I think Tawny might just be my favorite human.

  • @GamerOfPhones
    @GamerOfPhones 3 місяці тому +24

    I enjoy Lower Decks. The Cerritos crew will always have my favorite Captain. Carol Freeman really cares about her daughter Mariner. (Though she is overbearing, a good family story)

  • @craighissey6176
    @craighissey6176 3 місяці тому +33

    Love these 2 together, honestly if it weren’t for Sonequa, we wouldn’t be seeing so much Star Trek on our screens and Tawny continue to be that crazy, honest, ray of sunshine we’ve come to admire 🖖

    • @Knightfall182
      @Knightfall182 3 місяці тому +2

      Nah. Trek 2009 rebooted the franchise for a new audience and made it viable, not Discovery.

    • @chrisdavis2161
      @chrisdavis2161 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@Knightfall182 you're definitely wrong. The movies did what the movies did. They were reimagined reboots... This show opened the door for other series made for TV because it exists in the main timeline. The two are unrelated... But nice try

    • @jackdavinci
      @jackdavinci 3 місяці тому +4

      I guess it would be difficult because of the timeline differences and the secret classification of Discovery but it would be cool to see these two interact on Lower Decks

    • @craighissey6176
      @craighissey6176 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jackdavinci Now how awesome would that be, Jack and Tawny travelling to the future and finding the Discovery crew, like the SNW episode that would be totally awesome 🤠 sadly with Discovery coming to an end, that’s now just a dream

    • @terenehidia
      @terenehidia 3 місяці тому +2

      And I love that Tawny recognized that! So important to say Discovery brought Trek back.

  • @jdo8560
    @jdo8560 3 місяці тому +6

    this is epic. these two should have weekly conversations for us to behold, just like this.

  • @terenehidia
    @terenehidia 3 місяці тому +6

    “The Box Braids!” The Captain Burnham Box Braids!!! 🥰🖤🖖🏾

  • @LVRugger
    @LVRugger 3 місяці тому +5

    This is brilliant. I could watch these two talk all day.
    I'm still bummed because a friend of a friend is friends with Tawny and I missed meeting her by about 2 days. I was crushed for days.

  • @grampafitness9732
    @grampafitness9732 3 місяці тому +1

    I grew up on Nichelle Nichols as Uhura, and the older and wiser I got, the more I longed for her to get more story and more to do. It never quite came to pass. But each in her own way, both of these artists have carried on her legacy and given me so much of what I hoped for. Sometimes more than I could even have asked. And that makes me very happy.

  • @TheRAYviewYT
    @TheRAYviewYT 3 місяці тому +22

    Both of these ladies are representing Trek in the best way! 🖖

  • @MTJDisorder
    @MTJDisorder 3 місяці тому +6

    They need to do live action Lower Decks movie. Tawny and Jack are so perfect.

  • @virtualbri
    @virtualbri 3 місяці тому +4

    These two women are so smart, so dedicated to their work. They make Trek better by being a part of it.

  • @brankob8697
    @brankob8697 3 місяці тому +8

    This was so great to watch. Both of them are amazing women and have really helped to elevate and make Star Trek closer to Gene’s image of what Trek is.

  • @xknoewx
    @xknoewx 3 місяці тому +21

    I love these two. So amazing.

  • @aaronstreitenberger6012
    @aaronstreitenberger6012 3 місяці тому +5

    Seconded on the "Thanks for bringing Star Trek back" Sonequa!

  • @scnurse
    @scnurse 3 місяці тому +4

    I BAWLED on the cruise at the end of the Disco panel. I was surprised by the emotional floodgates bursting thinking about this being the last season. 😭😭😭

  • @borisdelaine9797
    @borisdelaine9797 3 місяці тому +3

    Everybody in my family knows Star Trek varcarously through me and I have prescribed episodes of Star Trek for people. Discovery and Lower Decks are the medicine that my nieces will accept.

  • @lindsaytoussaint
    @lindsaytoussaint 3 місяці тому +2

    First of all… SMG always with the LOOKS. the fits hit every time. What a queen.
    Also I’m not gonna cry. I’m not gonna cry!

  • @annarozay17
    @annarozay17 3 місяці тому +3

    Whoever said put these together give them a raise! More dynamic trek actors on actors interviews pls.

  • @Gaeilgeoir
    @Gaeilgeoir 3 місяці тому +5

    LOVE these 2!!! And Discovery, Lower Decks, and Strange New Worlds never disappoint. 🖖🏻🥰❤️

  • @bossman9873
    @bossman9873 3 місяці тому +4

    Really would’ve like 5 more seasons of Discovery. There is so much story left to tell.

  • @trachalio
    @trachalio 3 місяці тому +6

    When the open bit is "We gonna cry today? Absolutely." You KNOW it's gonna be good. 😍

  • @SnakeFox87
    @SnakeFox87 3 місяці тому +8

    Absolutely love this. They both seem so comfortable with one another, such a real conversation. And they were so supportive of one another! Such a great video ❤

  • @michaelscott7191
    @michaelscott7191 3 місяці тому +5

    Absolutely adore both these women! Titans of Trek 🖖🔥

  • @gcs6215
    @gcs6215 3 місяці тому +2

    I love them.
    Quentin Tarantino needs to direct a Lower Decks movie! 🙏 The voice actors for the main characters are perfect, especially Tawny Newsome. She is wonderful as Beckett Mariner.

  • @ekt8750
    @ekt8750 3 місяці тому +3

    The two Queens of Star Trek together chopping it up. Love it. Nichelle would be proud.

  • @dairedarcy1130
    @dairedarcy1130 3 місяці тому +3

    “I don’t know what they wanted us to do, but can we just sit here and compliment each other?” I’m here for it!

  • @rylecut
    @rylecut 3 місяці тому +7

    Well that was awesome. Thanks y’all! 🙏🏾❤️🖖🏾

  • @dcnote1
    @dcnote1 3 місяці тому +1

    Yes, yes, yes! More of this! Bring back Discovery and more of Lower Decks!

  • @grantmobile8777
    @grantmobile8777 3 місяці тому +2

    A totally awesome conversation between Tawny Newsome and Sonequa Martin-Green. As a child watching TOS syndication during the 1970's, the Nichols visibility and legacy have been integral to me growing up to be a useful adult. IMO the Nichols Legacy is secured with these two as they move it forward.

  • @syfysistas
    @syfysistas 3 місяці тому +1

    We have said it more than once that Tawny is a comic genius. Her wit and timing is genius.

  • @TheLJStrong
    @TheLJStrong 3 місяці тому +1

    I love the fact that these two got a chance to sit down together. This is fantastic!

  • @jeneedarden9122
    @jeneedarden9122 3 місяці тому +6

    I love these ladies and this conversation. I'd like to see them converse with each other more about their characters.

  • @slpmtlfavs8797
    @slpmtlfavs8797 3 місяці тому +5

    This was a wonderful conversation between two amazing women! Love it! And echoing having Mariner and Burnham in canon! Make it so!

  • @aviehoward794
    @aviehoward794 12 днів тому

    These ladies characters embody what star trek is and always was...a life of everyone living gloriously as one

  • @departmentq
    @departmentq 3 місяці тому +7

    Tawny Newsome should be a Trek show runner; her love of Trek, especially of the Berman era, is evident.

    • @leostankus144
      @leostankus144 3 місяці тому

      While not "Show running", she is a Writer on the upcoming Star Fleet Academy.

  • @crazylegssw
    @crazylegssw 3 місяці тому +2

    Nice shout out to Michelle. I've loved Senequa since she Trekked down here in ATL for Walking Dead. I was so happy for her to land the lead. And as for Tawny, you all have been fantastic on your show. After season 3, Lower Decks has the basis to be Star Trek Simpsons.
    Great conversation

  • @moonpeonie
    @moonpeonie 3 місяці тому +1

    "Thank you for bringing Star Trek back." 💫🥰❤️ my heart is so full watching this ❤️

  • @ericblade6152
    @ericblade6152 3 місяці тому +10

    so... umm..... give Discovery another season? Thanks

    • @wordyblerd7723
      @wordyblerd7723 3 місяці тому +4

      Right?! Like I'm looking forward to the academy show (if it's in the current Disco timeline), but I'd hold off for another year on that if I could get just one more season of Discovery.

    • @Knightfall182
      @Knightfall182 3 місяці тому +1

      Nah Paramount is already dying. They aren't going to flush more money down the toilet

    • @wordyblerd7723
      @wordyblerd7723 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Knightfall182Here's the attention you are craving: *eyeroll* Now go outside and play.

  • @KingfisherTalkingPictures
    @KingfisherTalkingPictures 3 місяці тому +2

    I’d love to see them together in a show. Mariner is bringing a pizza to the gang and trips into a cryogenic freezer and wakes up a thousand years later. She settles into the future, and is bringing a pizza to Michael and trips & falls into the guardian of forever. The gang doesn’t know she was away.

  • @Indygaine08
    @Indygaine08 3 місяці тому +1

    Rare to see a 100% genuine video.
    Didn't set off my BS Detector
    I feel like a proud Uncle ❤❤

  • @daneyoshida
    @daneyoshida 3 місяці тому +4

    Love these two ladies, what amazing additions to the Trek Family.

  • @JustMereify
    @JustMereify 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for this! I adore both actors and I’m thankful for you both, I’m proud of you both. I weeped with joy when Discovery aired with a black woman lead /Captain. I giggled with delight at Mariners character because we can’t be serious all the time. You two are amazing and I’m just thankful 🥹.

  • @xX19shegod19Xx
    @xX19shegod19Xx 3 місяці тому +4

    Pure delight! 🫶🏽 Thank you for this, more please !!🖖🏾

  • @NineWorldsFromDrew
    @NineWorldsFromDrew 3 місяці тому +1

    These girls put LOVE on their duty roster! 🥰🖖

  • @francescozenocchini4428
    @francescozenocchini4428 3 місяці тому +1

    The thing that makes me love this even more is the fact that when LD come out fans were compared Mariner to Michael Bruhaman saying that Mariner is what Michael Bruhman SHOULD have been in Discovery. And see their actresses iteract is just funny.🖖❤

  • @kevinsullivan7635
    @kevinsullivan7635 3 місяці тому +1

    It truly hurt my heart when it was announced this would be the final season of Star Trek: Discovery. I don't think anyone else could have played the role the way Sonequa Martin-Green did.

  • @kadosho02
    @kadosho02 3 місяці тому +3

    Love this so much. Sonequa & Tawny are: amazing, talented, creative, beautiful, and powerful. Love the art they bring to life, and envision.
    Thank you for this

  • @poomar
    @poomar 3 місяці тому +2

    Ooo I'm excited to watch this. I

  • @billycovingtonjr1717
    @billycovingtonjr1717 3 місяці тому +2

    Watching the pilot episode of this program with two of the Star Trek franchise most important women of color as the guess stars of the show was amazing. Mrs Green and Mrs Newsome who's intelligence and talents were on display when talking not only of Star Trek, but of life, the business of showbiz and the changes of landscape of how showbiz has been run , the cultural changes that have comes and need to continue to move forward with better representation for all involved. The topics that were discussed were very interesting and their replies were very honest and humbling . They did an excellent job of interviewing each other with just enough fan girl in it to make it fun . Go job ladies on this pilot show and may the ones that are coming behind it be as well done .

  • @cutegixie
    @cutegixie 3 місяці тому +2

    Please get these women a podcast

  • @MrEffdot
    @MrEffdot 3 місяці тому +4

    I would follow Captain Burnham to the heart of the Klingon Empire! And, hey, I'd hang out with Lt. Mariner 😅

  • @CaptainPikeachu
    @CaptainPikeachu 3 місяці тому +9

    Two queens!!!! 🎉🎉🥰

  • @z3rah.just.for.vi3wing
    @z3rah.just.for.vi3wing 3 місяці тому +2

    I don't care about the negative things nostalgically blinded fans have to say about Discovery or Burnham. I love the show and Sonequa! I do miss the fro' though..

  • @sajizzle2680
    @sajizzle2680 3 місяці тому +2

    Two of my absolute favorites. What a great conversation.

  • @Trekfanwanda
    @Trekfanwanda 3 місяці тому +2

    I love these two Star Trek icons🖖🏽🖖🏽

  • @tedrandall2937
    @tedrandall2937 3 місяці тому +3

    fantastic actors, fantastic conversation. hope to see them more in star trek and many other roles.

  • @bridgetboyle687
    @bridgetboyle687 3 місяці тому +2

    This was the chat I needed! Thank you.

  • @DayanaDooley
    @DayanaDooley 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm 25 years old and I love Paramount

  • @eddiedallas7014
    @eddiedallas7014 3 місяці тому +4

    Disco Ritos baby!

  • @ericapelz260
    @ericapelz260 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for bringing us along for this fantastic conversation!

  • @plewis6787
    @plewis6787 3 місяці тому +12

    Love this!!!!! I'm so happy this happened ❤❤❤🎉🥳🖖🏿

  • @terryntrina
    @terryntrina 3 місяці тому +1

    I love you ladies! Can't wait to see more of Discovery! And I swear if they ever end Lower Decks I'll just crumble!

  • @spencerkoelle184
    @spencerkoelle184 3 місяці тому +2

    The energy here was incredible. Loved watching this.

  • @realnerdethan
    @realnerdethan 3 місяці тому

    I've loved Sonequa's role in Discovery as well as Tawny in Lower Decks! So excited that Tawny will be on the writing team for Starfleet Academy. She's such a huge Star Trek nerd and I'm here for it 😁🖖

  • @garnold16
    @garnold16 3 місяці тому +3

    THIS!!! More of this! 🖖

  • @JeroenSWart
    @JeroenSWart 3 місяці тому +1

    Really enjoyed watching you two friends talking to each other. So great to see the real you!

  • @phillytvdirector
    @phillytvdirector 3 місяці тому +2

    Sonequa and Tawny have earned a respected place in Star Trek history as pioneers in representation for Black women and the new Star Trek. They both are extremely talented actors who have a lot to say in their own way!

  • @HardlinerTheGeek
    @HardlinerTheGeek 3 місяці тому +4

    So does this mean we'll get a Discovery/Lower Decks crossover?

  • @robbielex
    @robbielex Місяць тому +1

    I love these two and they could definitely make a buddy cop movie together.

  • @aaronsimon5769
    @aaronsimon5769 3 місяці тому +2

    They are so funny together.

  • @permanum4u
    @permanum4u 3 місяці тому +2

    It's the melanin in Trek for me.

  • @SceneNNerd
    @SceneNNerd 3 місяці тому +3

    Love this conversation!

  • @ASharedFate
    @ASharedFate 3 місяці тому +3

    Great way to end black history month. Star Trek will forever be better because of these two wonderful women. I can’t wait to see what they have still to come.

    • @BD12
      @BD12 3 місяці тому +1

      it might be the worst ending to a black history month I've ever experienced

  • @bakerby
    @bakerby 3 місяці тому +1

    I’d watch that project. I am so glad I had the opportunity to listen to this. Thank you.

  • @ViralunaSee
    @ViralunaSee 3 місяці тому +1

    Ladies, this gave me so much life. I adore the both of you, and so much of what you said resonated deeply. Thank you so much, and hurry up with the collab!!

  • @JLAR2RVA
    @JLAR2RVA 3 місяці тому +1

    This was a great show, looking forward to more episodes. Sonequa's mirror universe Burnham may have been evil, but played in a way that she clearly has comedic chops as well. I would love to see those two ladies acting together in any show or movie, but Lower Decks or Academy needs to make that happen for us in Trek as well!

  • @archiebays8871
    @archiebays8871 3 місяці тому +2

    What an absolute delight to watch. :) Thank you both so much

  • @zedoniverse
    @zedoniverse 3 місяці тому +4

    Both Tawny and Sonequa are Awesome women and I'm happy to see black representation in Star Trek continue, Nichelle Nichols would be proud! ♥🖖

  • @ambershadedlens
    @ambershadedlens 3 місяці тому +1

    This was a delightful conversation. Definitely want to see whatever these two put together

  • @t3rminal_e221
    @t3rminal_e221 3 місяці тому +2

    Gods I'm going to miss Sonequa so much 😢 she's hands down my favorite Captain/Character since Sisko

  • @StarfleetUnderground
    @StarfleetUnderground 3 місяці тому +1

    I love this so much! 💖 These two are the best! Thank you so much for giving us this interview between Sonequa and Tawny!!!❣💕

  • @DavidBeddard
    @DavidBeddard 3 місяці тому

    I wish the BBC would take the message about increasing the diversity of storytellers to heart for Doctor Who.

  • @aviehoward794
    @aviehoward794 12 днів тому

    Absolutely Love these 2 women!!! A true Fan!!! Wonderful interview! Hate that the shows are ending. So not fair!! So much more to see with these 2 ladies.

  • @cam7432
    @cam7432 3 місяці тому +1

    This was so excellent, but it also makes me sad that Discovery has but one more season. the discussion of the evolution of Micheal Burnham's hair was amazing. Don't know if it's possible, but what a terrific special feature for a Discovery complete series box set.

  • @CaptainFabulous84
    @CaptainFabulous84 3 місяці тому +1

    OMG I would so watch a movie with these two amazing women!!!

  • @Rob774
    @Rob774 3 місяці тому +2

    I loved this! How can you not?
    Very well done!

  • @couryswan2448
    @couryswan2448 3 місяці тому +2

    Could be sisters. Both bold powerful sexy women. Ain't nothing wrong with that! You get a huge vote of approval and support from me! You go girls!