Jordan Peele's Candyman: The Horror of Inevitability | READUS 101
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- Jordan Peele’s Candyman: The Horror of Inevitability || Jordan Peele and Nia DaCosta’s 2021 legacy sequel to Candyman aimed to focus on the Cabrini Green gentrification after it dealt with segregation via redlining in Chicago, police brutality and heavy gang activity in the past. However, instead of making a better attempt to put the people of Cabrini Green in a better spotlight unlike Candyman 1992, Candyman 2021 decides to use the Cabrini Green gentrification as a device in order to focus on the racial violence and racial injustice that’s regularly shared among African Americans, and the generational trauma we all suffer from us constantly reliving it.
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00:00 Intro
03:07 White People Built The Ghetto
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33:13 We (Don’t) Need Candyman
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Considering the reflective surface of my teleprompter, I'm surprised I'm still alive after recording this video after counting how many times I said this dude's name...
hmm this is a good point…does a front-facing camera work for summoning? 🤔
I think as long as you don't say the name back-to-back five times, you're okay. Otherwise the Candyman would be working overtime trying to kill everybody who'd ever talked about him.
Would have been a scary way to end the video if it seemed cut off by him manifesting. But then again, perhaps he likes to let a few brave souls like yourself continue to live, to better perpetuate myths to a new audience. Either way, happy spooky season.. 🎃 🐝
Awesome video essay, btw
Hey so you know when you made That video about Sing 2 in Minions and one more *it’s on Netflix* they added a gay couple in a one that is about love
I get the dissatisfaction with Hellen being the protagonist of the first film, however, for the time the film came out it was unique to even have a white relatively liberal character who was complicit in racism through the use of Cabrini Green as an academic study and a path to progressive accolades rather than as a place that needed help. I think its her status as a well meaning outsider that accelerates Candyman since she comes from a place of entitlement and logic and he is injustice and paranormal. Convincing her is much more challenging than a resident who knows the myth and doesnt want to take the chance of making their life worse since they cant just up and leave. We all have seen horror films with nosy white folks and understood as black folks knowing that pushing the limits of anything rarely works out in our favor. I think the movie acknowledges that our communities stay in a status quo of neglect until the presence of white recognition or the endangerment of a white woman for better or worse.
Bravo. Perfectly put. I also think they highlighted the residents well by using Cabrini and the core true story within Clive’s story - which was Ruthie Jean being murdered by a man that was accessing her house through her mirror in 1987.
Very well said. Gave me a new perspective….something that rarely happens on the internet.
But in all honesty having a white woman vs an Asian woman or any other non-black woman of color would not have been as welcoming to white audiences to view the film.
Pretty much, Helen even says something to the effect in the film, "Two people brutally murdered and nothing happens, one wht wmn gets assaulted we get arrests.
Loved hearing your thoughts on the real history, the highs and lows of the story, and everything in between. Fantastic video, La'Ron.
Thanks a lot, Matt! Always appreciate you stopping by and hanging out in the chat!
Not nearly enough Black creators out here offering this type of content. I hope to be out here with you soon brother. You’re an inspiration.
My dad grew up in Cabrini. My favorite part of the film was watching the cops getting slaughtered.
Yes! Me & my boy saw when it when it came out & we collectively were in awe of what we knew was about to happen. Once she said his name in the police car, my heart swelled with joy.
@@blacknbougie8021 hahahahah it was like you could feel it building up, so once he just let loose it was… it was delectable. My Asian gf was with me and she was really creeped out by my reaction lol. When we went home I made her watch _13th_ with me lol
Wish it was “found footage/bodycam” style for extra realism hahah.
@@FrostRare shout out to you 😁
Your version of Candyman (2021) sounds absolutely fascinating and I'd love to see it but I genuinely don't think it'd work as a horror movie. I think it's actually best suited to be a killer prestige drama so you could really dig into the story. {I wanted to dig more into the actual movie too. There were more than a few things in it that just felt a little shallow and surface level i.e. the teenage girls in the high school bathroom.}
Brother Readus you killed this essay. Your analysis of the film, and your ability to tie in the history of america and the sociology of most inner cities that become gentrified was chef’s kiss! Keep up the excellent work!
Didn’t he only produce it? I feel like it’s unfair to call it Jordan Peele’s Candy Man right?
Yes he was only a producer.
He worked on the screenplay as well but he didnt direct it so kinda sorta
Honest question, do you know what a producer is 🤔? Also Jordan Peele is credited for the screenplay as well, which mean he also wrote.
@@shakyelarnold7392 do you know what a producer is? Producers oversee the business side of the movie, directors the creative side. And if we go by "he had a writing credit", so did the actual director of the movie - Nia DaCosta. So why shouldn't we call it "Nia DaCosta's Candyman"?
I know the vid calls it that because of the Search Engine stuff, but why should we ignore who directed the film? Why should she get any less credit than Peele, when they are both excepcionally great filmmakers.
@@josepablolanderosbuenrrost2945 you said all that for the answer to be, no you don't know what a producer is. In short producers hire directors, the business side will always outway the creative side.. So if he is is a producers and writer it is more of his movie then anyone else's.
loved the video bro. I felt William Burke even owning a laundry mat was the most interesting part. He clearly suffers from some sorta trauma from him getting Sherman Fields killed in the laundry room
Recently in my studio class I remember someone talking to my teacher about how they were looking for something to internship or work in art outside of just gallery work or online stuff and he replied "Look for arts developments programs where they pay you to go and stay in atelier studios near smaller neighborhoods and do community artwork in the area, to help beautify essentially. It can be a great experience as an artist out on your own." And he said it kinda casually and in a way where I knew he meant like apprenticeship style living, community murals and painting electricity boxes or painting for small business but like in my head I went "Ayo isn't that like one of the steps of gentrification?" Then I immediately remembered this movie and just...paused. Cuz like as a fellow artist I knew what we were talking about was related to our development as artists and our careers but I couldn't help but think about how that was inevitably a step of that whole cycle and that there were likely people already negatively affected by something that was as simple to us as talking about an apprenticeship.
There were a lot of other things in the way the film used art and it's community that I have seen irl and can imagine actually happening but I get now why I felt the overall story itself maybe didn't connect back to the community the way I didn't even realize I wanted it to thanks to your video. It also kinda made me realize there's an opposite in this Candyman through Wendell and Wild, where it's a kinda hopeful end to the cycle of reviving generational trauma and hoping art can play a positive role in breaking these cycles of gentrification, instead of a step of it. But also it was a kids movie so it wasn't totally realistic about how that works but it was nice it was still more hopeful for it's future than I feel a lot of movies have been lately.
Hopefully that made sense lmao. Great video!
I rewatch this video at once a month. I really loved Candyman as a franchise and my family is from Cabrini Green. This video was so tastefully done and the research was impeccable.
A really wonderful piece.
I'm a Filipino living in the Philippines. So, I could never possibly know the history behind the gentrified area, but hearing your thoughts and feelings about the 2021 film made reevaluate my standing with the pilot points regarding the film. Also, I hope you include subtitles in your videos.
Since you've seen all of the Candyman films, do you think your ideal adaptation will ever make into screen?
I see gentrification in my area- It makes it hard for someone in my class can afford and makes me afraid we will be next to be axed by corporate greed , this movie also sounds terrifying but also tells what happens happens when people are pushed out by racism and classism .
I regret delaying watching this video. This was great
I defintiively buy a bit into the idea that Candyman very nature is affected by who tells the story. He should be a spirit of vengeance and recknoning, but in the 1992 movie, he's almost entirely predatory. Which might be the result of his story spreading to his victim who can only understand him as pure evil.
Nia DaCosta, directed the newest installment of Candyman. Jordan Peele was on as a producer.
This is the most engaged I've been in a video essay in a minute. It doesn't have loud and silly editing which isn't bad but takes me out of it the music really helps too
Jordan Peele didn't direct Candyman though. That was Nia Dacosta.
I promise you the vid's only titled that for SEO purposes.
This is not Jordan Peele's Candyman. This is Nia Dacosta's Candyman. Jordan just helped finance it.
I have been addicted to your analysis videos for the past 3 days. You're doing amazing!
My understanding was that the inevitability itself was the horror of the story.
It was a good film but Tony Todd’s presence was a key factor in the original to me.
I feel that this legacy sequel opens up to explore more. Just because it didn’t sync up with what you’d hope to get out of this wasn’t quite there, it doesn’t mean it can’t be further explored in a later chapter, if there’s another entry which I hope they do. I grew up watching the Candyman series of movies in the 90s, albeit, not old enough or have a sophisticated grasp on the bigger implications of how the story plays out, I liked them. Sadly, he was the only horror icon that wasn’t white. I think that this film is about the cycle that continues in the wake of misguided emotional means to weaponize that against the oppressors. It’s interesting that, though his art reflects the pain of his people, he makes money off it and lives quite comfortably. I think there’s a theme of hypocrisy in minority liberal groups that might not fully benefit from their “majority” counterparts as depicted in the film. There’s plenty of lip service, and little action. If they do continue from Candyman (2021), there might be other themes that they could take on to coalesce, perhaps dive deeper into gentrification. I think this movie feels like a bridge from the old to what can be. I do hope they address more sides and deepen and tailor form this horror icon for years to come. I wished that racism, power imbalances, gentrification weren’t still apart of this country’s systems to make art, but they are outlets to tell stories that might never be told if white people continue to occupy more in media’s narratives. I’m still waiting for a Latino horror icon.
This was one of the best analysis vids on Candyman I've seen. While a lot of people have covered the racial history none really went in depth on the cons of gentrification and how its effected things
Brilliant essay/review!!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 My primary critique of the film, which is more silly/superficial than anything… is that I would have liked to see a bit more Tony Todd. I guess I understand why he couldn’t be the main character/main candyman at this point (sound points you made about him aging, and also the ability to create future Candyman films)… but given how he/his voice/his image is really the face of the brand, I was just craving him a little bit more. We got that fleeting cameo within the last few seconds of the film, and I was so grateful for that. I hope it Jordan Peele (or anyone else) takes another stab at this, we see Todd just a bit more, while he’s still here with us.
I think the only way that the character of Candyman MIGHT be salvaged from just being a wraith that just kills indiscriminately is if his "mind hive" turns out to be like the character named "One of Many" from Neverwinter Nights 2. The methods that the game character employs to kill enemies depend on which soul is in control at the moment. Of course the game only allows one of three souls to be in control due to technical limitations. It would be interesting to explore an idea like that in a film. It would allow the Candyman to have a wide range of reasons & for doing what he does. Some souls might be only interested in getting revenge against their killers, some might be doing so to angrily lash out at the world over their horrible deaths, & some could be interested in righting both current & past injustices in this country. I know the first two motivations wouldn't be very "original," but it would leave the possibility of the 3rd type of story to take place sometime in the future.
When this movie was announced I called it. I said "they're going to pull a nightmare on elm street 2 where the guy becomes candyman like the guy became freddy.". I was right and I called it 100% the day the movie was announced.
And they went in a whole nother direction. Lol. That would’ve been much better
You now have a new subscriber. Your dissection of the Candyman movies, lore, Black experiences, and racism was excellent and thought provoking. Thank you for your amazing work.
Wow! Deep words on this movie. I saw (and loved) both the ‘92 version and this most recent version. It gave me insight into the specifics of Chicago’s racism and reenforced my opinions on gentrification. If anything, I found these movies as sugar-coated pills to show me uncomfortable truths. Even the “Renfield” character, Burke, struck me as someone who could not let go of his trauma: even defined by said trauma to the point of worshiping Candyman.
However, I respect your ideas and it gives me more to think about.
your essays never fail to amaze me
Wow this is a well constructed video.
The historical context, the film history and then the film analysis.
You really pulled me!
I haven't watched this yet but hoping to sometime this weekend. Knowing how great your work is, I'm looking forward to it. :) Thanks for making this and sharing it with us!
Keep it up. Love your reviews!
First time coming across your videos and 1 minutes 30 seconds in what do I say “I like this guy.” *subscribed✨*
i'm so glad the algorithm recommended this video to me! just subscribed
Subbed what a breakdown of not only the movie but redlining as well👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you for the intellectual prowess you display in this video. Had to subscribe the way you broke it down in some a in-depth way using society to reflect the true horror concepts is dope. ✌🏽 Blessings to you man you are brilliant.
im so happy i found your video and channel ive been looking for a black creator that talks about the stuff im interested in without sounding boring your thoughts on the movie were amazing especially when given more context from the real world history of gentrification in Chicago
Great analysis. Subscribed
This review was brilliant! It was a call to action , it was a look into american history, a longing for more then just source material. It was a beautiful telling of a ficitional horror that mirrors a real monster that very much walks the streets . Bravo my friend , well done .
My 400+ video Watch Later brought me back 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 I missed your videos. I forgot how soothing they are.
I’ve been looking forward to a Candyman introspection!
This was a wonderful essay. Immediately subscribed.
Thanks!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings!
Awesome video. I could curl up on my couch 🛋 with a glass of 🍷 and watch your video essays
Currently working on an anthology and your channel is always helpful in keeping me inspired 💜 Stay Awesome 😎
Good luck Sarah, I too am trying to hammer out an anthology ; mine is horror based.
@@88bombshell1 let me know when you finish :) I'd be glad to check it out
This was a amazing video!
That was clean af. Great job
this was my first video of yours, its giving pierre delacroix, you get a sub brother !
I did have fun watching this movie but noticed something was missing. Your video perfectly stated what that was. Personally, I hope that numbness at the end you described was what the filmmakers intended.
Thank you for yet another wonderful topic! I was thirsty for Halloween/Horror themed essays from you. Looking forward to more. 🌻
Watched this in January and it was a bore. It lacked nuance of black politics I wanted from this still very promising black woman film director. The kill scenes were well done!
This was incredible.
Wanted a film study, got a history lesson💀
excellent.
Insightful and entertaining media discussion with a chill-hop backdrop? Think I'll stick around.
underrated youtuber alert !!
I’ll acknowledge that this was the best follow-up to the original Candyman. Despite that - disappointing is the word I’ll continue to use in this film’s description. You’ll never hear me complain about movies being “woke” or “political” because that’s just about everything, but instead I’ll call this film hollowly constructed.
It felt like Peele, Da Costa, and the other writers camped on social media within the bunches of activists and academics and made a list of bullet points alongside their notes on The Forbidden and 1992’s Candyman. The aim was to have a conversation about gentrification, but there just wasn’t enough presented to make it a worthy convo. And the one they had, which was essentially the body of the movie, was that white people are bad and stupid. That’s just hilarious, sloppy, and screams “look at us call out these bad whites!!!!” 😂
A movie that should’ve knocked horror out of the park fell flat. I’ll focus on black people here - Candyman is absolutely OURS. The 1992 movie rang out so much, it made us avoid mirrors and avoid playing with his name. Rather than use our experiences with police violence and racism, this could’ve been a great opportunity to nail down the point of urban legends and the game of telephone. You could still touch on the socially wired happenings of the world in the movie without making IT the movie.
Candyman’s greatest quality is his poetic presence. The way he glided through the old films. The way he put his words together. The score and his voice…powerful stuff! In here, he was a mumbling ghoul, as the guys of Double Toasted called it. Nothing memorable about this version.
And where was Cabrini Green and it’s people? At least in the ‘92 version, the janitors at Helen’s school, the gang members, and Ruthie Jean and Jake -- all present to tell the neighborhood’s story authentically. Burke was there, but just didn’t feel apart (although Domingo was awesome as usual).
The ending was so unearned. So rushed. So nonsensical. No wonder Tony Todd wasn’t enthused about this before or after. This movie was a miss, man.
What a fantastic essay! Thank you. I loved *Candyman* (2021) and I was a big fan of the original, even though it had a lot of problems. And I love your fix for the latest film, like, they should bring you on as a consultant for the inevitable sequel (or prequel, depending lol)
Agreed, this added spin could have taken the message even further. However, I think about so many ruined sequels and remakes: this particular movie is great.
A thought came to me while listening to your review, and I thought I'd share it.
Instead of having either of the two black men be the villain of this story, one tragic and one grief stricken, why not have it be the system of gentrification itself that is the villain of this narrative, making this story a cautionary tale about the inability of those who seek to modernize able to understand past generational trauma within itself? Because in listening to your talk about the trauma of that Burk endured, being the cause behind the other man's death, it made me realize that this trauma itself can be passed on to any nationality and ethnicity that marginalized, and yet because of that his personalized actions in the story can be rendered as just the actions of a grief stricken man who, in the grand scheme of a modernizing world, is unimportant and uninspiring, because there's always going to be another 'accident' in the form of someone saying the wrong thing at the wrong time and a black man being killed; just look at the videos that pop up on UA-cam about 'Karens' calling the police on black men because they are 'afraid' are a dime for a dozen, and at this point we've all gotten so used to seeing them that there's a collective numbness to seeing it happen again.
But on the other paw, if the story was about gentrification causing an unearthing of the Candyman's burial ground, and the remnants of that lingering animosity - the hatred for an unjust murder brought about because of loving the wrong person, and the desire to be known by those who have forgotten the tragedy of a life that was snuffed out too soon - festering and causing the new residents to begin behaving in ways that make them fearful/hateful/jealous of one another until those emotions manifest into actions which collectively bring back the Candy*an in the form of passing along his murders until they became a new legend within themselves, that would make the story much deeper than it is, because it would then be about passing along trauma that may never be truly healed, but instead can fester inside the ignorant individuals who step upon grounds that they know nothing about, or may have ignored by an Anne-Marie. We can especially see that if we see the frustrations mounting by a collective group of individuals who, in the entirety of the narrative may just be background noise, but in the aspect on what the story wants to say, be a perfect vessel for cautioning the viewers on entering into what they think is a new world, but instead just be a painted over version of a place that's filled with an emotional/spiritual refuse that has festered into wounds that end up scaring them. If the movie was a bit more subtle, it might even have people constantly complain about bees within the neighborhood constantly stinging people, and we see a city meeting about removing certain trees going around in circles because those in public office are worried about costs/ordinances/worker rights and so on.
Another thought that hit me a lot when you were speaking was about Anne-Marie herself; as a woman who experienced the trauma of dealing with a vengeful spirit who was after her son, it would seem like a proper point to make her someone who is staunch in not wanting to see Candy*an raised in any manner in the future, to the point where it makes her son distance himself from her because of her obsession with this past legacy that he can't or won't accept because he has grown up in a world of high tech pseudoscience that demands the suppression of imaginative ideals like curses and spirits and evil. Anne-Marie on the other paw could have spent thirty years agonizing over this truth because it comes to her in recurrent nightmares of that burned corpse reaching out for her while telling her say his name so that she never forgets, an allusion to how that horror is something she can't speak about and so has buried itself deep within her mind to the point where she literally becomes paralyzed with fear at the sight or mention of the bees I suggested introducing earlier. This could be especially haunting for her considering that she is seeing so much of the Cabrini-Green Homes being torn down, residents dying or being forced to move away, and her being left alone with the weight of a secret that she's never been able to overcome or truly bear. This could lead her to protesting the gentrification of the area, and her being arrested again and again and again after refusing to leave the area where Candyman was burned, as a way to symbolize how she, as both an elder in her own right being around her mid 50s, stands as the last testament to a torturous legacy, and how the ignorance of a city's desire to develop and profit can unleash a terror that goes past simple physical understanding. In this way the supernatural element can be seen as more of a cautionary understanding of psychological trauma that can exist inside a place and a person at the same time.
Continuing on with this idea, we get a chance to see how Cabrini-Green Homes are fully demolished and the new area built up around it via a quick time skip that happens for the audience in seconds/minutes, and then get to meet the new residents, with Anne-Marie now much older and still protesting everyone being here. In this way she's become what people would look down upon as 'the old crackpot' that seems to fester within urbanized development, while also being the spiritual negro, "yes, I know some hate the idea, but here it really works because of the circumstances", who tries again and again and again to keep warning people of what's happening, all the way up until the murders begin. This leads to a culmination of the police arresting Anne-Marie and trying to pin the murders on her, since she knows what's going on but won't give a name to the killer, because if you say his name... and her son coming to see about her. It would even be cool if said son was an artist turn lawyer who not only could defend his mother from the legal system but could help the police with the crimes because of his knowledge of art, and since the Candym*n is an artist himself, as he was said to be in the original movie, it could also put said son in the position of having to face this vengeful spirit as it grows in power from committing more and more murders, yet still not fully empowered since nobody knows its name.
The climax of the story could then be left on a questionable note, with said son confronting the CandyM** and then coming to defeat by way of binding him to himself, in this way there's thing lingering tension of when/if such murders would begin again with the son making a new painting in red, since this would tie back into the original movie's idea of this spirit looking for someone to connect himself to, as what happened with Helen when she became immortalized with him.
You gave more insight than any other film critic on this whole movie I appreciate it
24:41 off topic question: why does Marvel’s deaging effects work so much than LucasFilms?
Because seriously, if they are going to do more Young Luke, just hire an actor.
I liked this film a lot of course i hadnt remembered much of the original i remember being fascinated by todd but being turned off by the sheer focus it had on a white woman talkinf about poc rather than the poc themselves. I loved hearing your thoughts on this, and personally. I took him wearing peoples visage as a means to make victims see the faces of those taken by violence however, you have helped point out to me that it does fall... a little flat when said victims, are at thend of the injustices hes trying to make a face for and not individuals who felt more deserving.
Really enjoyed your video! I was so hyped for this too. I loved the first film but saw the clear problems it had because it could never be a 1-to-1 adaptation without considering the specificity and context of its fundamental changes. And oh my the sequels are terrible, with Candyman haunting his white, blue-eyed, blond-haired female descendants. But the 2021 film felt half-baked or unfinished; it’s 90 minutes then it ends, like they didn’t finish shooting it or cut a lot. DaCosta/Peele would’ve been better rebooting, divorcing itself from those under-considered elements.
I'm scared of scary movies but I love some good analysis
I hope its ok but I need to share this on my IG
I really like your idea of what this movie should've been I think it should be explored by Jordan or someone on his team I'd really want to see that
If you did want to make your version I'd wanna help out Imma good camera woman
I found the whole movie fascinating. It was spoiled before I seen it and they like its so bad don't watch it. I'm like it sounds awesome to me and made me want to watch it more lol. The multiple candymen. The urban legend or different tailings of the candyman legend is so cool. Hoe they shot this was amazing. The music spectacular. Love how candyman is only visible through mirrors lol. Was cheering for candyman a few times in the movie especially at the end lol. Such a rich history lol. Plus awesome beginning love that candyman song during opening company logos lol. Love how all the candymen look. If anything wish we seen more candymen lol. Be cool see how different they all look in the different eras they're from lol. Plus the puppets parts are incredible lol. Loved every second of this movie lol. I definitely wanted more lol. They could have done more candyman movies exploring more of the history and different legends of the candyman lol. I wanna see the whole hive lol. And wanna see the movie with any they took out back in lol like in trailer they showed the church with the face on wall with the hole in the mouth but there's piers and only person you see sitting there looked like Helen but she may be burned up cause its her spirit or her version of candyman lol. Probably other scenes too they took out that'd be interesting lol. Love all the themes in this. All the art. The opening credits the ending credits especially when all the candymen rose up together lol. That was awesome lol. Like a avenger moment lol. Love Tony todds cameo lol. Love everybody parts in all this lol. Puppets so cool lol. Candyman is almost like a superhero in this. Maybe anti hero like the punisher lol. They either actually did something to dervse candyman killing them or for them to be dumb enough to call on him in the mirror lol. Everyone deserved to die in this except the candymen lol. I could see a comic book on this lol. Wanna see more candymen lol. What happened to Helen did she become a candyman too or something similar lol. Halloween ends did a similar thing like candy man where there's different versions of the story ultimately its still Laurie fault why Michael was out killing people but a couple people was saying different stories of how she provoked Michael or they did that to Corey too just assuming they know what happened
Lol when they really dont. They just playing telephone and its changing as its passed from person to person lol. Michael is a legend himself like candyman lol. Both of them are boogeyman lol.
That was good idea u said. Of the kid that showed Helen around to be more focused on. Cause the idea of the kid that grew up to be the guy at the cleaners. Who has no relations to the first one made me scratch my head. Not saying what they did with him was useless. It just it would have made more sense to do it with the kid from the first one. Seeing something could have changed his mind about not bringing candy man back. And he would have a deeper connection to Anthony. And it would give more reason to have Anthony moma involved in the story more. And to include the others from the past candy man. And hear they thoughts on what happen. Would have made the movie so much more interesting. And so many black actors could have brought that out. Lastly in my opinion it was a missed opportunity.
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Quick question: Why is the video called Jordan Peele's Candyman when Nia DaCosta is the one that directed it?
Nia DaCosta's Candyman not Jordan Peele
I dont know why I read Jordan Peterson but this is much better. I’m excited to hear more black commentary on black issues
This movie is sooo good.
first one? yes
@@nalday2534 also the second one
@@jesterparty6947 lol sure
@@nalday2534 just because you can't handle the truth doesn't make it a bad movie...
@@jesterparty6947 lmfaooo what truth bruh
Jake did have a family 😂 he still in the police station
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I like it but there was so much left on the table.Needed 2 see the kills & not enough of Anthony as Candyman. Definitely missed a opportunity with the Jake character
They stole ya whole flow word for word line for line check Atlanta ;this just jokes I think they both touched on a good subject that’s very unique and they definitely had to have drawn inspiration from y vids a lil bit
Whoa......Readus.....the ending really got me. Like, I knew about redlining, but put into the context of white people being overly and overtly racist to that extreme, it just hurts, and it ignited a fire in me yearning and desiring for more change, and getting off my butt to do it.
CandyMan would work better as a series.
The Candy man is coming for sweet revenge.
The issue is that Candyman WANTED Helen. Focusing on any other character makes little sense narratively no? Also, I’d like a original Candyman story closer to the story ya know? Back in Liverpool and bring in elements of English urban legends and tribalism. This new addition was a mistake.
A little weird for you to say it’s Jordan Peele’s movie when it’s actually Nia Dacosta’s movie…..
The title is such a read 😂
One other thing that's not important but still annoyed me is the "humor." Not a single "joke" landed in the film, which is weird considering Peele co-wrote the script. It also made a case for why they could have skipped the attempt, which wasn't needed anyway.
i was so disappointing after watching it
If candyman wants to be remembered then why does he kill people who say his name? I don’t get it
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That rally could have worked, lik show the gentriication and burke and later reveal in a montage wher ehe dranged telly what he lot, and he is fairly optimistic at th start, and it hors gentrification and him loosing more and more and broken promises , that gives him the idea, influenced of coursed really down by another of the residents driven away. But we see only th irst in a document and hopeful burke. Thats not him who i bad but the betrayal and loosing his community by gentrification and killed black men by the police . As mystery character , or thy see him and he tells them whn they research an ask around, showing what he misses. And an inner conflict. but every time something happens h gives more in.
You can even have that with a jourrnalist protagonist and anthony , hell maybe its even her ignorance of incuding the efect on the resisdence that really pushes him over.
If I’m correct, candyman only kills people that’s not innocent. Like the teenagers that bullied the girl in the stall, the 3 racist white folks in the beginning and half of the movie, the sister and her friend which I’m pretty sure were shitty, and the police. Hints him saying “people may think you are innocent,” (then something along the lines of)” but I know you aren’t “
Candyman killed Helen's friend in the first one and she was an innocent
I hated this movie ripping off Freddy's revenge or the awful jason goes to hell replacing the slasher icon like Daniel Robitaille in this case with other candy men Sherman fileds it's as awful of halloween 2018 halloween kills and halloween ends Michael myers having a sidekick replacement with Corey Cunningham they should've just flat out reboot of Danielle Robitaille with a new black American actor than getting tony todd again
wasn't a fan of rebranding essentially an all consuming curse akin to the Grudge into an antihero. Candyman was our version of Freddy Krueger. He was our contribution to the horror genre. I prefer him to be neutral. He still kills several black ppl in the movie, but by the end they imply they're going to use him against racism. So a dark superhero genre? I'm not a fan at all. If they had an issue with the idea of a black ghost killing black ppl, they shouldn't have made the original film. I think the concept of racism in horror was better depicted in Tales from the Hood.
Tales From The Hood is phenomenal.
candyman is freddy kreuger cropsy dracula and bloody mary into one
I ain’t like it either. It came off as Candyman being a mad dog, anti-hero, hero for Blacks who are too poor, too scared, too oppressed etc to be their own hero and yet must self-sacrifice themselves (and others) to activate Candyman’s powers. 🤨
I see it more that his own personality merged with Candy Man and when the woman he loved summoned him not out of fear but hope that changed him. Candyman killing black people never made sense but I think it should have been rebooted rather than spun around the original.
Can I submit for consideration Tupacs coined term THUG LIFE …The hate you have little infants f’s EVERYONE. It’s not that he targeted his own, that’s just who was around. Ever heard of drill rap? THAT is Candyman.
I think you were expecting too much out of a modern day horror film.
Unfair I feel. There's a lot of modern day horror films that absolutely nail their message while serving us an entertaining watch. Not that Candyman 2021 wasn't good. I loved it
The A24 movies are pretty good
Bro, nice essay. However, be careful about your lips! Wipe them joint every now and then because the spit on the edges of your lips really distracted me...
I could have a conversation about this subject for hours lol.. the history really begins after the Civil war.. blacks were the OG republicans.. MLK and MX were republicans and saw right through the phoney "white caring liberal".. anyways lolol, cool vid
You mean when republicans where liberals and Democrats were conservatives? Like we get it tap dancing takes focus but please at least try to research.
There’s a difference between criticism and just saying why wasn’t this movie made near 30 yrs ago not held to todays standards. Just my opinion. I don’t disagree with your points I probably agree with you 99% of the time. But this is why ppl hate modern movies entertainment. Nothing is just that it’s all political. ✌️
Everything is political. Furthermore, a minority, especially a black person, is born politicized no matter what country we live in. We would love for it not to be the case, but we don't have a choice. I cannot even imagine what it'd even feel like to not have that over my head. If I could experience it just for a day, I think it'd bother me even more. No one is choosing this, but people who don't have any idea what it's like and only understand general concepts like "attention" think that that's what it's about. Like a child who falls and cries about the pain only to have their parent say, "They just want attention." Well, sure, attention does matter, but it shouldn't stop at attention. Action is needed. Healing is needed. Ignoring the pain doesn't make it fade; you're gonna feel it until it goes away. And emotional pain just buries itself inside you and changes who you are.
Everything is political. The literal water you drink is political. The air you breathe is political. Everything, everything, everything.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Cannot agree more. Thinks now are supposedly "political" or "woke" because they feature women in lead roles, POCs, the LGBTQ+, etc. It stands out because it isn't the "norm". The "norm", as you said, has always been political. It just wasn't seen that way because those people are part of it.
The original movie was entirely politic...but see this is why I love Candyman 2021 because y'all can't brush over the problems the movie brings up like you did with the original...
Regarding the original Candyman, well i disagree with you. The author or director may focus in whomever they want to focus. The original story and movie were not about the african american community and their marginalization. But a more personal story about myths and how they affect us. Of course the background about race relations in the USA certainly elevates the material, but not every horror tale has to be about oppressed groups, heck not every horror tale has to be about the same thing. BTW i liked this new "reboot/ sequel" and it's message. Still socia commentary doesn't neccesaraly equals quality, i still preffer the original by a wide margin. I am mexican BTW (not a mexican-american) and a chilango at that.