Hey Hey Chris, Danke, für deine schönen Bilder aus Norwegen im Winter, wenn deine Schneeketten diese Anfahrhilfen waren mit denen du die kleine Steigung auf dem Zeltplatz raufgefahren bist so solltest du bedenken, das es Anfahrhilfen sind, aber ich glaube das du Weist was du machst und richtige Schneeketten bei dieser Witterung benutzen tust... Halte deine Stoßstange sauber ! 👍
Hey Thomas, gerne geschehen! Ich weiß wohl, dass es Anfahrhilfen sind - wollte mal probieren wie sie sich bei der Fahrt auf der Straße machen ... können nach meiner Erfahrung wie Schneeketten benutzt werden. Die vertragen auch nur Tempo von ca. 50 km/h. Grundsätzlich brauchen wir aber Ketten oder Spikes nur zum Rausfahren von Plätzen. Den Rest erledigen die sehr guten All Season Reifen! Viele Grüße von Chris & Chily
@@chris-brandt Servus, wollte nur mal fragen welche AllSeason Reifen du drauf hast. Ich habe die Conti VanContact welche im Winter richtig gut sind aber, zumindest bei mir, sehr schnell und stark verschleißen. Überlege jetzt (17.000 km) mir neue zu holen. Evtl. aber andere Marke. Daher würde es mich interessieren was du so fährst und wie deine Erfahrung damit ist. Gruß aus Bayern. Holger
@@chris-brandt Chris, da hattest du, bzw. ihr ziemlich viel Glück gehabt, denn wenn eine dieser Manschetten gerissen wäre und sie hätte sich um die Antriebsachse des von euch benutzten und Front getriebenen Fahrgestelles verfangen, so hätte eine große Gefahr durch ein Abreisen oder Beschädigung des Antriebs bei diesem Wetter für euch bestanden, aber zu Glück warst du Hier her der Lage.
Oh jaaaa ... wir lieben das winterliche Norwegen !! Wir waren im November/Dezember mit unserm Camper in Skjervø .... einer unserer SCHÖNSTEN Touren 😀. Deine Aufnahmen im Film gleichen irgendwie den unseren ☺☺☺... Schöne Grüße von Elke und Micha
Seeehr schön … das war wirklich eine wundervolle Zeit! Ich kann gut nachempfinden, das es eure schönste Tour war. Toll, dass ihr euch durch unsere Aufnahmen zurückversetzt fühlt 😉 Viele Grüße von Chris & Chily
Fahrt ihr einen ML T 4x4 oder einen frontgetriebenen Hymer ML T? Norwegen ist schon ein TRÄUMCEN, auch im Winter und die Lofoten, sind das Sahnehäubchen. Ich war in meinem Leben schon elf mal in Norwegen und immer begeistert, ich war auch auf den Lofoten in dem einzigen Dorf der Welt, welches nur einen Buchstaben hat, Ä.
Moin Mayfly, wir fahren einen frontgetriebenen MLT. Ging wunderbar damit und Norwegen ist wirklich traumhaft, sowohl im Winter als auch im Sommer. Elfmal in Norwegen ist schon toll, dass schaffen wir auch noch😉! Dann ist auch das Dorf Å dran… waren wir noch nicht…
"....all season winterreifen...." Something like that does not exist. Summer and winter tyres has totally different composite and qualities. A set of tyres can not live up to both requirements at the same time. Norwegian law requires that you have proper winter tyres. Even what is called "winter tyres" in central Europe is insufficient because they are not made for low temperatures as in Scandinavia. This is needed both for your own safety and others on the road. There are to many examples where things go wrong and cause severe accidents (including deadly ones) because of foreigners come with insufficient equipment.
Hi Dan, I must have made a mistake in the description - of course there are no "all season winter tires" but only all season tires. I already realize that summer and winter tires are fundamentally very different. The ADAC writes about Norway: There is a general winter tire requirement for heavy vehicles in Norway. The regulation applies from November 15 to March 31 of the following year for motor vehicles and their trailers, each with a permissible total weight of over 3.5 tons. So-called all-season or all-weather tires also qualify as winter tires, provided they have an M+S marking. The tires must have a minimum tread depth of 5 mm. Since the 2020/21 winter season, tires must have a mountain pictogram to be considered winter tires. We had snow chains with us as well as brand new tires with over 5 mm of tread. Accordingly, customs had no objections because of our tires. They still gave us a warning and that was the right thing to do. If you drive sensibly, it is also possible with all season tires, as our journey proves. Regards, Chris
@@chris-brandt Listen to your own video at 05:45 where you put out your claim how "wonderbar" those "all-season winterreifen" are. I just stumbled over your video and have seen nothing else of your's. You seem to never have driven on Nordic winter tyres studded or non-studded. This in order to have a reference how really bad all-season-tyres are. As said in previous comment is it not possible to combine good capabilities for both summer and winter tyres. While all-season-tyres are not good on summer conditions are they more or less helpless on winter conditions. So your van would be like a 3,5 ton Bambi on ice. If the custom warned you about your set of tyres it's because they know that such tyres are not good for winter conditions. But they have no authority on the technical things with a vehicle ....that is under the road authories (Statens veivesen). ADAC can write whatever they want but as you know they have nothing with Norway to do. Norway are obliged by EU rules to accept poorly equipped vehicles when it come to tyres. I don't know what kind of marking you have on your tires (MS ...M+S...or...) but they are not winter tyres. What ADAC don't tell you is that Norwegian law requires that you must be equipped and drive according to road conditions. Hence you can drive as long as you are on naked asphalt with your set of tyres. But if you were stopped in a control when it was snow and ice on the road you would not be allowed to drive further. To quote one representative from Statens veivesen, doing such controls: " If you cause an accident because you are ignoring the requirement of law to be equipped according to conditions (which you are not with your all-season-tyres) you would be in deep trouble". You can claim to have snow chains with you but that does not help anything as long as they are not used. Driving with such snow chains cause you to drive slow and thereby creating further problems for others when overtaking you. To have good grip on the road surface, at any time and on any condition is the only safety guaranty you have. Your camper van is on the limit ....if not over 3,5 ton in total weight. That makes road grip even more important since the van is so heavy that it can cause severe damage to others. Laws of physics are nothing to mess with. It makes no exceptions for you even if your excuse for not having proper winter tyres is probably that tyres are so expensive. I can add that it is mandatory for getting a driver licence in Norway to have a course in driving on ice track and learn to handle the car under such conditions. I don't think such is part of the training for driver licence in Germany. I will give you an example from my own experience. I was passenger in car (Mazda 323) in the late 1980-th ....on a normal winter road with snow and ice. It was day time hence no visibility problems. Like shot out of a canon came reindeer out from the wood and crossed the road just meters in front of us. Even if the speed was only around 60-70 km/h (and it was a small car weighing less than 1 ton ) and the panic braking saved us so we could avoid a crash with the animals, but it created that we did a 360 degree pirouette in the middle of the road (while standing on all four wheels) before the car wanted to see if it could fly. Off the road we went flying down a steep slope and ended 20 meters lower down in a "wonderbar" soft snow. We were incredible lucky and the car was fine ....it only needed to be lifted up on the road again. ....and special notice: we were driving with studded tires. Without those tires it would have been unfall...unfall....and mass slaughter/crash with at least 15-20 reindeer. Having them crashing trough the front windscreen could be a serious threat to our lives. I must say that as a user of Norwegians roads I want to see everybody a safe travel. But serious accidents happens, which easily could have been avoided with proper tyres. Such recklessness scares me. So yeah I find it irresponsible to drive with the so called all-season-tyres. Your travel with such tyres "proofs" nothing else than that you were lucky....certainly not that the tyres were good for the winter conditions. You see...it's like ....it goes good .... until it goes bad ....but then it is to late to regret....right....
Was für eine krasse Tour. Spannend ist es allemal! Danke für's zeigen.
Sehr gerne!
Unglaubliche Stimmung. Mit normalen Winterreifen? Wie sieht‘s da oben mit dem Tankstellennetz aus? Gutes Weiterkommen!👍💪🚐👏
@@Viking-II Mit All Season Reifen, hat gut geklappt. Tankstellen gibt es massig, kein Problem. Viele Grüße, Chris
Wahnsinn 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰bin echt begeistert......ich liebe Norwegen 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Das freut uns sehr Jacqueline, wir lieben auch Norwegen!!!
Hey Hey Chris,
Danke, für deine schönen Bilder aus Norwegen im Winter, wenn deine Schneeketten diese Anfahrhilfen waren mit denen du die kleine Steigung auf dem Zeltplatz raufgefahren bist so solltest du bedenken, das es Anfahrhilfen sind, aber ich glaube das du Weist was du machst und richtige Schneeketten bei dieser Witterung benutzen tust...
Halte deine Stoßstange sauber ! 👍
Hey Thomas,
gerne geschehen! Ich weiß wohl, dass es Anfahrhilfen sind - wollte mal probieren wie sie sich bei der Fahrt auf der Straße machen ... können nach meiner Erfahrung wie Schneeketten benutzt werden. Die vertragen auch nur Tempo von ca. 50 km/h.
Grundsätzlich brauchen wir aber Ketten oder Spikes nur zum Rausfahren von Plätzen. Den Rest erledigen die sehr guten All Season Reifen!
Viele Grüße von Chris & Chily
@@chris-brandt Servus, wollte nur mal fragen welche AllSeason Reifen du drauf hast. Ich habe die Conti VanContact welche im Winter richtig gut sind aber, zumindest bei mir, sehr schnell und stark verschleißen. Überlege jetzt (17.000 km) mir neue zu holen. Evtl. aber andere Marke. Daher würde es mich interessieren was du so fährst und wie deine Erfahrung damit ist. Gruß aus Bayern. Holger
@@chris-brandt Chris, da hattest du, bzw. ihr ziemlich viel Glück gehabt, denn wenn eine dieser Manschetten gerissen wäre und sie hätte sich um die Antriebsachse des von euch benutzten und Front getriebenen Fahrgestelles verfangen, so hätte eine große Gefahr durch ein Abreisen oder Beschädigung des Antriebs bei diesem Wetter für euch bestanden, aber zu Glück warst du Hier her der Lage.
Oh jaaaa ... wir lieben das winterliche Norwegen !! Wir waren im November/Dezember mit unserm Camper in Skjervø .... einer unserer SCHÖNSTEN Touren 😀. Deine Aufnahmen im Film gleichen irgendwie den unseren ☺☺☺... Schöne Grüße von Elke und Micha
Seeehr schön … das war wirklich eine wundervolle Zeit! Ich kann gut nachempfinden, das es eure schönste Tour war. Toll, dass ihr euch durch unsere Aufnahmen zurückversetzt fühlt 😉 Viele Grüße von Chris & Chily
@@chris-brandt wir arbeiten auch grad an unseren UA-cam-Filmen ... irgendwie leben wir gefühlt noch in unserem Urlaub 😀😇 .
@@ElMionTour-mr4mc kenne ich gut, das Gefühl 😂
Des Menschen WILLE ist sein HIMMELREICH. Die so was machen sind gute Menschen.
Gruß aus Sukosan/HR vom Konfuzius 🍺🍻🍷
Hallo Konfuzius,
da hast du wohl Recht 😉
Schönen Gruß von Chris
Toller Bilden! Welcher Winter reifen haben Sie?
Danke, freut mich! Wir haben die Continental All Season Reifen.
Fahrt ihr einen ML T 4x4 oder einen frontgetriebenen Hymer ML T?
Norwegen ist schon ein TRÄUMCEN, auch im Winter und die Lofoten, sind das Sahnehäubchen. Ich war in meinem Leben schon elf mal in Norwegen und immer begeistert, ich war auch auf den Lofoten in dem einzigen Dorf der Welt, welches nur einen Buchstaben hat, Ä.
Moin Mayfly, wir fahren einen frontgetriebenen MLT. Ging wunderbar damit und Norwegen ist wirklich traumhaft, sowohl im Winter als auch im Sommer. Elfmal in Norwegen ist schon toll, dass schaffen wir auch noch😉! Dann ist auch das Dorf Å dran… waren wir noch nicht…
"....all season winterreifen...." Something like that does not exist. Summer and winter tyres has totally different composite and qualities. A set of tyres can not live up to both requirements at the same time. Norwegian law requires that you have proper winter tyres. Even what is called "winter tyres" in central Europe is insufficient because they are not made for low temperatures as in Scandinavia. This is needed both for your own safety and others on the road. There are to many examples where things go wrong and cause severe accidents (including deadly ones) because of foreigners come with insufficient equipment.
Hi Dan,
I must have made a mistake in the description - of course there are no "all season winter tires" but only all season tires. I already realize that summer and winter tires are fundamentally very different.
The ADAC writes about Norway:
There is a general winter tire requirement for heavy vehicles in Norway. The regulation applies from November 15 to March 31 of the following year for motor vehicles and their trailers, each with a permissible total weight of over 3.5 tons. So-called all-season or all-weather tires also qualify as winter tires, provided they have an M+S marking. The tires must have a minimum tread depth of 5 mm. Since the 2020/21 winter season, tires must have a mountain pictogram to be considered winter tires.
We had snow chains with us as well as brand new tires with over 5 mm of tread.
Accordingly, customs had no objections because of our tires. They still gave us a warning and that was the right thing to do. If you drive sensibly, it is also possible with all season tires, as our journey proves.
Regards, Chris
@@chris-brandt Listen to your own video at 05:45 where you put out your claim how "wonderbar" those "all-season winterreifen" are. I just stumbled over your video and have seen nothing else of your's.
You seem to never have driven on Nordic winter tyres studded or non-studded. This in order to have a reference how really bad all-season-tyres are. As said in previous comment is it not possible to combine good capabilities for both summer and winter tyres. While all-season-tyres are not good on summer conditions are they more or less helpless on winter conditions. So your van would be like a 3,5 ton Bambi on ice. If the custom warned you about your set of tyres it's because they know that such tyres are not good for winter conditions. But they have no authority on the technical things with a vehicle ....that is under the road authories (Statens veivesen). ADAC can write whatever they want but as you know they have nothing with Norway to do. Norway are obliged by EU rules to accept poorly equipped vehicles when it come to tyres. I don't know what kind of marking you have on your tires (MS ...M+S...or...) but they are not winter tyres. What ADAC don't tell you is that Norwegian law requires that you must be equipped and drive according to road conditions. Hence you can drive as long as you are on naked asphalt with your set of tyres. But if you were stopped in a control when it was snow and ice on the road you would not be allowed to drive further.
To quote one representative from Statens veivesen, doing such controls: " If you cause an accident because you are ignoring the requirement of law to be equipped according to conditions (which you are not with your all-season-tyres) you would be in deep trouble". You can claim to have snow chains with you but that does not help anything as long as they are not used. Driving with such snow chains cause you to drive slow and thereby creating further problems for others when overtaking you. To have good grip on the road surface, at any time and on any condition is the only safety guaranty you have. Your camper van is on the limit ....if not over 3,5 ton in total weight. That makes road grip even more important since the van is so heavy that it can cause severe damage to others. Laws of physics are nothing to mess with. It makes no exceptions for you even if your excuse for not having proper winter tyres is probably that tyres are so expensive.
I can add that it is mandatory for getting a driver licence in Norway to have a course in driving on ice track and learn to handle the car under such conditions. I don't think such is part of the training for driver licence in Germany.
I will give you an example from my own experience. I was passenger in car (Mazda 323) in the late 1980-th ....on a normal winter road with snow and ice. It was day time hence no visibility problems. Like shot out of a canon came reindeer out from the wood and crossed the road just meters in front of us. Even if the speed was only around 60-70 km/h (and it was a small car weighing less than 1 ton ) and the panic braking saved us so we could avoid a crash with the animals, but it created that we did a 360 degree pirouette in the middle of the road (while standing on all four wheels) before the car wanted to see if it could fly. Off the road we went flying down a steep slope and ended 20 meters lower down in a "wonderbar" soft snow. We were incredible lucky and the car was fine ....it only needed to be lifted up on the road again. ....and special notice: we were driving with studded tires. Without those tires it would have been unfall...unfall....and mass slaughter/crash with at least 15-20 reindeer. Having them crashing trough the front windscreen could be a serious threat to our lives.
I must say that as a user of Norwegians roads I want to see everybody a safe travel. But serious accidents happens, which easily could have been avoided with proper tyres. Such recklessness scares me. So yeah I find it irresponsible to drive with the so called all-season-tyres. Your travel with such tyres "proofs" nothing else than that you were lucky....certainly not that the tyres were good for the winter conditions. You see...it's like ....it goes good .... until it goes bad ....but then it is to late to regret....right....