Gary Taubes - 'The Case Against Sugar'

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  • Опубліковано 10 січ 2020
  • Gary Taubes is an investigative science and health journalist and co-founder of the non-profit Nutrition Science Initiative (NuSI.org). He is the author of The Case Against Sugar (2016), Why We Get Fat and What to Do About It (2011) and Good Calories, Bad Calories (2007), published as The Diet Delusion in the UK.
    Taubes is the recipient of a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation Investigator Award in Health Policy Research, and has won numerous other awards for his journalism. These include the International Health Reporting Award from the Pan American Health Organization and the National Association of Science Writers Science in Society Journalism Award, which he won in 1996, 1999 and 2001. (He is the first print journalist to win this award three times.)
    Taubes graduated from Harvard College in 1977 with an S.B. degree in applied physics, and received an M.S. degree in engineering from Stanford University (1978) and in journalism from Columbia.
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  • @johnnypenso9574
    @johnnypenso9574 4 роки тому +196

    Sugar is addictive, mentally and physically. It alters your hormones, spikes hunger signals etc. Sugar/processed carbs had me in it's grip until the age of 57. Going low carb, cutting out all carbs but for green vegetables and some nuts and avocados completely changed my life. Appetite control is automatic now, I eat 1-2x/day after eating 5-6x day for 15 years. Down to highschool weight again. Feeling like a million bucks.

    • @ldean8360
      @ldean8360 4 роки тому +20

      I was a fat triathlete...... Gary has something here.
      Artificial sweeteners seem to be addictive as well. My wife would rather divorce than give up her Mt Dew. It affects her sugar preferences too. My kids and I are reducing our sugar intake dramatically. My wife won't. Anything that is not totally sugar laden doesn't "taste good". The kids and I are easily adapting to lower sugar. She can't or won't. I think the diet soda has some role.
      It's sort of been the story of our marriage. I spend hours doing research to try to learn more. She shoots me down with no effort to find reliable data. Just two people with opinions. Guess which of us is lean and fit......... I tried arguing with our scale for years. Sometimes your opinion is wrong. The scale doesn't care.

    • @daisyj5837
      @daisyj5837 4 роки тому +14

      Sugar is added to everything Big Food can think off, because they know it's addictive, which is good for their profits. Big Pharma loves it, because it makes people sick with diabetes and cancer, which is good for their profits. If someone told me Big Food has shares in Big Pharma and vice versa I Would not be surprised. These 2 evils work well together.

    • @patkaczmarek7362
      @patkaczmarek7362 4 роки тому +7

      @@daisyj5837 Of course they do. They work in tandem with coordination from the FDA, which also enables and promotes their interests. If the FDA didn't enable and promote Big Food & Big Pharma's interests, sugar and it's likeness (artificial sweeteners) would've been banned a long time ago, and the cures for many diseases would've already been implemented. However, all three entities need a sick populace to retain and enhance their interests, which ultimately is money: which is the biggest reason the US healthcare system desperately needs to transform from a for-profit system to a non-profit, single-payer based universal healthcare system. Remove the profit, money and greed from the healthcare system and watch the good that happens.

    • @GBB70
      @GBB70 3 роки тому +9

      L Dean I’ve cut out sugar and processed carbs recently and have also been intermittent fasting. Dropped 25 pounds in 90 days, but wife has not or will not complement me on my progress. She is gaining and still thinks it’s about calories in/ calories out and still eats junk.

    • @OverlandTT
      @OverlandTT 3 роки тому +4

      L Dean have you sat through the many videos from Dr.Berg? He is a great inspiration and how to easily introduces some changes.
      Start with the older videos and work your way through... I'm 47 and have been doing mostly low carb, OMAD and a keto lifestyle for over 3 years. Before that I was mostly careful anyway. Losing my dad to cancer in Sept 2015 was a hit!
      My mom is a raging diabetic in denial who was told to have her leg amputated, gangrene and rot all caused through her illness. She too was a sugar, carb and artificial sweetener addict and still is... Mom lives in permanent nursing care here in the UK and is bed bound. Prior to nursing care she was hoisted around her house for a long time. He tipping point came in late 2015 which was her Avalanche I've just spoken of, in 2016 she spent 9 months in hospital with many, many weeks in intensive care and then to high dependency ward.
      If you want to see how one my moms legs was three years ago, let me know... I'll upload a private UA-cam video link or even send over a picture.
      Finally, sweeteners are VERY unhealthy, they have very strong links to cancer (especially considering the scientist did jail time for falsifying as safe an identical sweetener a decade before the nutrasweet revolution). You could put £100,000 on the table with a Diet Coke and I'd rather have nothing. One way of really making food taste good is OMAD, one meal a day - (start easy with it) but it really makes you appreciate food and it's true taste... I hope there is a little here for you to start with that will help you and the kids, as for your wife -I can hope!
      Best wishes,
      Peter
      Ps, leave a message on my channel if you would like to talk further, anything I can do to help... I will.

  • @C2yourself
    @C2yourself 4 роки тому +51

    If all sugar drinks, including chocolate milk were eliminated from public schools the childhood obesity epidemic would slow down

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 3 роки тому +6

      Absolutely true. It would make a very good start. Then the parents would make good start. We need to back these doctors up.

  • @writethisthat3613
    @writethisthat3613 2 роки тому +10

    A dozen years ago I asked my former doctor for dietary advice. I he folded his arms and took a step back. "Not from me. Go to the internet if you want advice about diet." The last few years, I've lost nearly 40 lbs through a mostly keto diet.

    • @CR-wk2re
      @CR-wk2re 2 роки тому

      Hahaha that's great. Sounds like an honest man.

  • @pratekag
    @pratekag 3 роки тому +13

    I left white processed sugar 7 months back. No ice cream, no chocolate, no ketchup, no mayonnaise etc. I eat fruits. Dates are my sugar treat. Earlier it was a chocolate or icecream after every meal.
    First week was hell. Started exercising to overcome withdrawal symptoms. Overall very beneficial.

  • @toni4729
    @toni4729 2 роки тому +6

    The whole world should have seen this talk from Gary by now.

  • @TL-he7vu
    @TL-he7vu 4 роки тому +50

    An intellectually honest and excellently laid out talk.

  • @MrKen59
    @MrKen59 4 роки тому +61

    Why is it so hard to do what I know is true. Sugar has been so hard on me yet it’s in everything. My daughter has become an insulin dependent t1 diabetic and still drawn to this blasted substance. Oh My Gosh, and we obsess over opioids or vaping when sugar and HFCS has done more damage than any of that. Thank you for keeping up the fight for our health.

    • @Interestingworld4567
      @Interestingworld4567 4 роки тому +3

      Ken Checkeye get her on keto. Search Dr. BERG

    • @maryg6292
      @maryg6292 4 роки тому +7

      Please don't default to blaming yourself or sugar. My beautiful niece, at age 12, was getting close to Olympic gymnastics and seemed so healthy. Suddenly, she became an insulin dependent diabetic. The doctors blamed her mother for a bad diet, etc. But the mother kept looking for a doctor who knew what he was doing. He went in, hoping to find operable tumors on her kidneys. Instead, both kidneys were a unsalvageable mess of adenoma tumors that had not showed up on the scans- a congenital defect that had finally caught up with her. Her father gave her one of his kidneys. She is fine now. Not everything can be blamed on diet. Good luck. Mary

    • @MrKen59
      @MrKen59 4 роки тому +3

      Mary G Thanks Mary. I know T1 diabetes is autoimmune, but what gets me is the draw to this substance is so strong, that even with diabetes, and needing insulin for sugar, the cravings are powerful enough to make it hard to stop. Thanks for your kind remarks.

    • @johnnypenso9574
      @johnnypenso9574 4 роки тому +3

      It's addictive. It alters your hormones, spikes hunger signals etc. Sugar/processed carbs had me in it's grip until the age of 57. Going low carb, cutting out all carbs but for green vegetables and some nuts and avocados completely changed my life. Appetite control is automatic now, I eat 1-2x/day after eating 5-6x day for 15 years. Down to highschool weight again. Feeling like a million bucks.

    • @brothercaleb
      @brothercaleb 4 роки тому

      Ken Checkeye please consider keto as the other commentator suggested. There’s so much info now on ketogenic diet. It will change your lives

  • @larry89
    @larry89 4 роки тому +45

    Seems like it's been a long battle for Gary, glad you've been keeping up the good fight. We're turning it around!

  • @alphacause
    @alphacause 4 роки тому +21

    Thanks Mr. Taubes for maintaining a sustained critique over the years with regards to the oversimplified view that the dietary and medical community holds concerning calories. In no other area, where the topic of energy is discussed, is the type and/or source of energy considered irrelevant. Only in the world of diet do so many so called "experts" look at the energy value of a food and think that is the end all be all of the discussion. Could you imagine a mechanical engineer telling his boss that his machine needs X many units of energy, and then telling him that the fuel source does not matter because energy is energy? If I run a sports car on regular unleaded fuel, verses super unleaded fuel, it will make a difference in the efficiency of the engine, regardless if both types of fuel contain the same amount of energy. If I try to run a car on coal, when it is meant to run on gasoline, the car will not move despite the fact that you can amass enough coal to produce as much energy as gas.

    • @honprarules
      @honprarules 2 роки тому

      Someone had to say it.
      It boils my blood when people talk in calories.
      If we go by our 'experts' worldview, 100 calories of McDonalds equals 100 calories of baked beans, which is complete nonsense. This is another reason why I never bothered downloading those calorie counting apps. What am i supposed to learn by knowing the energy values of the food?

  • @martinirving3824
    @martinirving3824 4 роки тому +48

    Around 38:00 Taubes is saying he doesn't blame the sugar industry for what they did. I'm not so forgiving. Corporations are always ahead on what the science actually shows. The sugar industry knew the evidence was pointing to them. They put a lot of effort into making sure fat was implicated and remained so.

    • @clandestinereactionary1842
      @clandestinereactionary1842 4 роки тому +1

      Martin Irving if that's true why didn't the meat industry do the same?

    • @pqodbenliah
      @pqodbenliah 4 роки тому

      @@clandestinereactionary1842 What do you mean by "the same"?

    • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166
      @ellenorbjornsdottir1166 3 роки тому

      @@clandestinereactionary1842 They don't make a lot of profit and they DO make profit from the lean craze

    • @trekkeruss
      @trekkeruss 2 роки тому +7

      I d not blame the sugar industry wholly. Sugar has been around for hundreds of years. When it became a cheap commercial crop, it was used more. There was little science then pointing to it being a terrible drug.
      Sugar will not likely be regulated. So at the end of the day, people have to educate themselves and be responsible for their own health.

    • @vincewhite5087
      @vincewhite5087 2 роки тому

      Actually Governments are the real ones to blame.it’s ALWAYS governments. Corporations just show up & do as the governments say.

  • @robinlillian9471
    @robinlillian9471 4 роки тому +42

    "Staying away from the doctor was good advice." It often still is.

  • @theroguetomato5362
    @theroguetomato5362 4 роки тому +40

    I had Keto fried chicken for the first time!! Woohoo!! Dang, it was good. Get a bag of chicharroness (fried pork rinds). I used plain. You can use spicy, but make sure there are no carbs, because they often add sugars to the spicy kind.
    Crush the pork rinds in your hands down to the consistency of Panko. It crushes easily, takes only a few seconds. Add your spices. Dip the chicken in whipped eggs, then in the crushed pork rind, and fry. The chicken comes out REALLY crispy and delicious. Best fried chicken I've ever had, and not a carb to be seen anywhere.

    • @LemetriaWhitehurst
      @LemetriaWhitehurst 4 роки тому +1

      Great idea!! Fry in what type of oil?

    • @spaceghost8995
      @spaceghost8995 4 роки тому +15

      Don't fry in "vegetable" oils or it'll be poison.

    • @theroguetomato5362
      @theroguetomato5362 4 роки тому

      @@LemetriaWhitehurst Soy/Peanut oil. I don't like soy oil, but peanut oil is great for frying.

    • @theroguetomato5362
      @theroguetomato5362 4 роки тому +5

      @@spaceghost8995 We don't even have vegetable oil. Wouldn't touch it. And I wouldn't touch canola oil with an 11 foot pole. I use coconut oil, olive oil, and peanut oil. My wife uses that combination soy/peanut.

    • @yivmaiden
      @yivmaiden 4 роки тому +9

      @@theroguetomato5362 soy oil is poisonous. Please avoid it.

  • @micaonyx5301
    @micaonyx5301 3 роки тому +8

    Sugar cause so many health problems. I'm a former sugar junkie who thought I could eat all the crappy food I wanted because I've never been over weight. I've always ate healthy organic meats, and vegetables. I also suffered from horrible depression for years. My doctor put me on antidepressant meds that I stopped after two weeks because it made me feel like a zombie. I started noticing what I ate and when my depression came on and I realized it was after binging on cookies cakes ice cream for 3 or 4 days. I was hypoglycemic and almost passed out a couple of times because my sugar dropped too low. Now I eat sweets as a special occasions and not because I think working out mean it's ok. I can't remember the last time I couldn't get off the couch because I was too depressed. Btw when my daughter was a girl scout, most of her sales was from my fellow gym members 😄

  • @stevelancaster6303
    @stevelancaster6303 3 роки тому +12

    As a school food district director it is sad we are forced by the national regulations to serve 15 servings of bread.

    • @tommcelheney6920
      @tommcelheney6920 2 роки тому

      Golly, Mr. Lancaster, that's tough to read. Are you on Twitter? I have a lot to learn...

    • @those_eyes
      @those_eyes 2 роки тому +2

      Trying to kill the children with all that bread!

  • @musclesmouse
    @musclesmouse 4 роки тому +35

    50:25 gout is suggested here. I have gout and going keto has solved this problem for me. beef and other meats were red herrings. Mushrooms, asparagus, or any other high purine foods are also minor. Fructose from sugar/hfcs is the culprit and this chart shows a direct correlation. This is on orders hundreds to times higher than red meats and anything else I can eat. I bet there are no studies on this. Lets do a study where everyone has gout eats same amount of meat. one group eats with sugar/HFCS and one group does not. Count results. Then switch control and test group. Count results again. I bet everyone goes Keto once they realize that sugar and HFCS is the problem or at least no sugar/HFCS.
    53:40 zero studies on sugar.

    • @NicholasAndre1
      @NicholasAndre1 4 роки тому +2

      People always say “there’s no data to support that” and I’m like well let’s go ask the crowd of people who tried the diet for the purpose of resolving symptoms of a chronic disease who no longer have said symptoms anymore. Even if the placebo effect is responsible, who cares?

    • @marvinnelson5073
      @marvinnelson5073 4 роки тому +1

      I think we actually have everything in research, just there is a momentum based on teaching students, teachers largely teach what they were taught.
      One article that lists a fair number of pertinent references at the end is at www.news-medical.net/health/Why-Does-Added-Sugar-Influence-Gout.aspx

    • @janeallerton8567
      @janeallerton8567 Рік тому

      Read drop ACID BY David perlmutter

  • @toni4729
    @toni4729 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you Gary, brilliant. More please.

  • @chrissharkeyai
    @chrissharkeyai Рік тому +1

    This guy is fantastic! I'm going to buy his books

  • @caroldorsett8170
    @caroldorsett8170 4 роки тому +21

    Thank you for this great video! Follow the money as to why this was not called a pandemic and stopped. Diabetic disease and cancer are money makers.

  • @kayallen7603
    @kayallen7603 4 роки тому +7

    Excellent !! Thank you, Mr. Taubes.

  • @johnmadany9829
    @johnmadany9829 4 роки тому +9

    Thanks Gary, appreciate your work! I always Benefit from the refresher course on the scientific method.

  • @deendrew36
    @deendrew36 3 роки тому +12

    I wonder if Yudkin lived long enough to get the validation that he was right the whole time?

    • @sw6118
      @sw6118 3 роки тому +4

      No, he died in 1995. His work was republished in 2012....

  • @NicholasAndre1
    @NicholasAndre1 4 роки тому +9

    The miasma analogy for ultra processed food is spot on.

  • @Hoktoooey
    @Hoktoooey 4 роки тому +9

    Such a sweet story

  • @demiurge1608
    @demiurge1608 4 роки тому +2

    I met Garry back in 2012 and had a good conversation.. He used to focus on the carbs but a certain moment in time he left it out and joined Robert Lustig...

  • @maxibake9323
    @maxibake9323 4 роки тому +3

    Excellent. Thank you muchly for sharing this very important information with us all. & Take care of yourself to. ❤🙂🐶

  • @lynnwood7205
    @lynnwood7205 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you Mr Taubes. I am within my BMI range once again because your work convinced me that I was not wrong in rejecting the officially recommended diet and returning to the nutrition and diet of my childhood and youth.
    Although I must say I was more than upset when you demonstrated that cold fusion as presented was wrong. We are at times strange animals.

  • @motomatta1
    @motomatta1 4 роки тому +2

    Excellent Podcast 🙂👍

  • @kathymeyer5974
    @kathymeyer5974 4 роки тому +8

    I'm off the hard stuff (sugar), but I had to give up anything with sweetness -- including sugar, sweeteners, and fruit. It wasn't easy, and it won't be easy for you, because sweetness is very addictive. It really took months, with the first thing to do was stop making "keto treats" and sweetened fat bombs. And then I even weaned myself off of 85% chocolate and the handful of berries. It was the only way to stop cravings and to move to a place where I don't want anything sweet now. And who wants to work that hard and go back? Good luck if you want to do this, as the whole health care, pharmaceutical, advertising, and big food corporations are working against you. But it's possible.

    • @rowdy.rockers
      @rowdy.rockers 3 роки тому +1

      I joined a keto group on social media and all they talked about was imitation "keto" sweets and breads and goodies. When I pointed that out as a possible trigger I was ostracized.

  • @dicktracy3787
    @dicktracy3787 4 роки тому +21

    I agree with this talk whole heatedly, however the government is highly responsible for the diabetes epidemic. The government should not be involved in this debate. Whenever government gets involved in science, science ends and politics takes over.

    • @patkaczmarek7362
      @patkaczmarek7362 4 роки тому +4

      My friend, if you live in the US, your government bought the science and doctors a long time ago. Your FDA has been working in tandem with Big Pharma and Big Food for generations, putting their collective interests (shareholder returns) before the health of the general populace. If your government is 'highly responsible' as you claim, to which I don't disagree, then they must be included in this debate. I see no way around that.

    • @kaydenl6836
      @kaydenl6836 2 роки тому +1

      And it doesn’t get taken over by corporate interests either? Publicly funded research is much safer

    • @maricamaas2326
      @maricamaas2326 8 місяців тому

      Huge problem is government's subsidising the production of certain products, which makes them super-cheap...

  • @robinlillian9471
    @robinlillian9471 4 роки тому +6

    First step to clarity: Obesity is a symptom and NOT a disease. If obesity caused Type 2 Diabetes, there wouldn't be skinny people with Type 2 Diabetes, and there are. Most symptoms have more than one cause. Insulin resistance has weight gain as a symptom, but so does Hypothyroidism, which is notoriously under-diagnosed and poorly treated. Other diseases that cause weight gain: Certain bacterial and viral infections, Cushing's Syndrome, Lipedema, Praeder-Willi etc etc.

    • @deendrew36
      @deendrew36 3 роки тому

      Robin Lillian Robert Lustig addresses this. I believe he calls it “skinny fat”.

  • @geoff761
    @geoff761 4 роки тому +18

    Watch The Magic Pill on Netflix. Great movie about Keto cures.

    • @paulgee3411
      @paulgee3411 4 роки тому

      Thanks. I have been full on keto for 9 months and have Netflix but had not spotted this!

    • @williamkirkland2222
      @williamkirkland2222 3 роки тому +4

      look, I've been keto for years, but the magic pill is crap, take a person off a diet of 100% goldfish, and put them on ANY other diet and they are going to show improvements in their health. take a person off a diet of bread and jam and put them on any other diet and they will show improvements in their health.

  • @mcse-nv2ou
    @mcse-nv2ou 4 роки тому +47

    Refined SUGAR is not a food..................................

    • @YouTuber-ep5xx
      @YouTuber-ep5xx 4 роки тому +9

      It is a poison. A slow working one. It'll get you there, six feet under, in the end. Got my uncle yesterday at 72. Ruined his last 15 years.

    • @KETODiamond
      @KETODiamond 4 роки тому +2

      So true

    • @Now_lets_get_this_straight
      @Now_lets_get_this_straight 4 роки тому +3

      You Tuber, refined added sugar is not a slow working one. Not when children are obese and now an epidemic of diabetes are affecting them. The “slow working effect” is the overconsumption of carbohydrates which can cause insulin resistance to those that are old or are generically prone which will eventually lead to diabetes.

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 4 роки тому +1

      @@Now_lets_get_this_straight Insulin resistance takes years though. A fast acting toxin is when you put it in your mouth and it acts pretty immediately, or within a few days. Otherwise I agree with your sentiments.

    • @YouTuber-ep5xx
      @YouTuber-ep5xx 4 роки тому +2

      @@Now_lets_get_this_straight Agreed on all. My point is that it won't kill you NOW, today, like the poisons with skull and crossbones on the container. Hurt you, yes. And then it'll kill you one day unless something else gets there first. And lower quality of life long before that.

  • @marilyngandhi4213
    @marilyngandhi4213 4 роки тому +9

    Children can be free thinkers, the ones next door to me throw the bread out the window.

  • @marvinnelson5073
    @marvinnelson5073 3 роки тому +3

    100 calories of green beans and 100 calories of beer are obviously the same, how can you question it?

  • @hikerJohn
    @hikerJohn 4 роки тому +6

    There are FOUR in the cluster . . . increased blood pressure, high blood sugar, excess body fat around the waist, and abnormal cholesterol or triglyceride levels.

    • @YouTuber-ep5xx
      @YouTuber-ep5xx 4 роки тому +4

      You've listed the five markers of metabolic syndrome - high BP, high blood sugar, visceral fat, high trygs and low HDL.

    • @hikerJohn
      @hikerJohn 4 роки тому +1

      Well they are counting an abnormal lipid panel as one issue.

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 4 роки тому +5

      not cholesterol by itself... not LDL or total cholesterol, but ratio of triglycerides and HDL.

    • @YouTuber-ep5xx
      @YouTuber-ep5xx 4 роки тому

      @@dana102083 I've read that the goal is sub 1.8x. I'm trying to get my trigs/HDL down to 1.0. It was 6 a year ago, down to 62/45=1.4 lately, thanks to keto. HDL is a bit resistant to change!

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 4 роки тому +3

      @@UA-camr-ep5xx sorry im dyslexic, I erased. It varies from country to country but frankly I dont worry about my numbers when I know what Im eating. I know Im treating my body the best I can. I try to eat carnivore most days.

  • @cmj5281
    @cmj5281 Рік тому +1

    I pray for the day when no one will say I am sick.

  • @RedPillVegan
    @RedPillVegan 4 роки тому +7

    Gary is a great storyteller

    • @ninehigh99
      @ninehigh99 4 роки тому

      Red Pill Vegan His stories are ridiculous. Unless you like to believe everyone else always gets it wrong, but only people like you know the truth.

    • @josephsmyth832
      @josephsmyth832 4 роки тому +5

      Red Pill Vegan Why do you have such an EGO to try and dismiss anything that doesn’t fit your own narrative? Should you not be interested in getting to the truth? Should you be throwing rocks from a glass house?

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 4 роки тому +7

      @@josephsmyth832 Vegans are lacking the fatty acids and cholesterol required for higher thinking processes in the brain. It's moot to fight them; I understand though, it's tempting!

    • @josephsmyth832
      @josephsmyth832 4 роки тому +1

      dana102083 True.

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK 4 роки тому

      Slightly Vegan Yes, most people get nutrition wrong.

  • @dennisbauer3315
    @dennisbauer3315 2 роки тому +1

    Since I have been low Carb High Fat for, since end of 2016 it is now 2021, I have not had to have any Bi-polar or Olanzapine for last 3 years, and no medication at all what so ever, no pain killers, nothing. last 3 years. There are many other benefits, but not having psychotic episodes, first time since young, is in some terms, a miracle. But no, it was sugar. caused, pure and simple, no doubt in my mind, unless more scientific evidence .

    • @SB-zi4db
      @SB-zi4db 2 роки тому

      Amazing story! How did you figure out it was safe to stop your maintenance medication?

  • @habeeburahmanareacode3920
    @habeeburahmanareacode3920 3 роки тому +1

    great

  • @OIOnaut
    @OIOnaut 4 роки тому +7

    18:38 lol I am watching this and eating 99% lindt chocholate and did not know this. It is my powertool. Being a sugar addict for life, it most likely saved me. IMO this is the best fatty non selfmade stuff since it has no sweet taste at all. Pure cocoa and no bitterness. I was a TOFI now hopefully TO(ti) Good luck to ya all at your personal fight against sugar addiction and habits promoting it. Lind99% did it for me. Now I am addicted to it! DOUgh! Have to cut down on it and at least start making my own.

    • @paulgee3411
      @paulgee3411 4 роки тому +1

      If you are in Europe, try 85% Cocoa (Moser Roth - from Aldi).

    • @maricamaas2326
      @maricamaas2326 8 місяців тому

      So expensive, yet at last supermarket visit all lindt chocholate were sold out...

  • @billthomas8994
    @billthomas8994 3 роки тому +2

    Good information and starting to see some results with keto myself but I believe the only real long-term permanent solution to obesity in a food plentiful calorie dense environment will be when we have wearable biomedical feedback devices that send blood chemistry data to smart food dispensers

  • @mcse-nv2ou
    @mcse-nv2ou 4 роки тому +22

    Wheat flour is sugar. Potatoes are sugar. Rice is sugar . Bread is sugar. Fruit is sugar.
    Berries are good :) Intermittent Fasting is great.
    Look up intermittent fasting on UA-cam.

    • @thalesnemo2841
      @thalesnemo2841 4 роки тому +2

      @mcse9073
      Go carnivore! Meatrx.com

    • @paxvobiscum9859
      @paxvobiscum9859 4 роки тому +6

      mcse9073 Berries not so good... high in sugar, phytoestrogens and contain anti nutrients such as goitrogens and oxalate.

    • @sotam1973
      @sotam1973 4 роки тому +5

      Moderation is good

    • @YouTuber-ep5xx
      @YouTuber-ep5xx 4 роки тому +9

      Exactly. What the gubmint calls 'healthy whole grains' and encourages you to eat, is in reality just sugar.

    • @backfru
      @backfru 4 роки тому +1

      @@paxvobiscum9859 can you point me to the peer reviewed evidence for the claim that berries are not so good?

  • @zebonautsmith1541
    @zebonautsmith1541 4 роки тому

    “Lets go downtown and git this guy, “Sugar”....”

  • @sovereignruler
    @sovereignruler Рік тому

    You can go out to eat and feel sated, yet there's always room for the sweet stuff.

  • @michaeldillon3113
    @michaeldillon3113 Рік тому

    Hail Dr Yudkin 👍.

  • @robinlillian9471
    @robinlillian9471 4 роки тому +1

    IMHO Excess Fructose=More than YOUR body can handle, which could be very different for each individual, although everyone has an upper limit.

  • @Lennythewinner
    @Lennythewinner 4 роки тому

    Gary, in your reference to the Fitz et alia studybased on the Massuchusetts Hospital, you fail to mention whether Fitz was referring to autoimmune onset (so called Type 1) or to insulin resistance-mediated (so called Type 2) diabetes. As a Type 1 myself, I find this conflation vexing; even if not your intention, it is confusing if not misleading. If I myself have missed something and misunderstood, please accept my apologies. Please clarify this matter in any future talk you present on this history. Thanking you with respect, Len.

  • @melz266
    @melz266 Рік тому

    Does anyone know if Ansel Keyes is related to Israel Keys?

  • @josephgreenwald
    @josephgreenwald 3 роки тому +2

    Ultimate carbs low fat and protein is better becauseall carbs are sugar because your body break or convert most of them into sugar glucose

  • @emustaro
    @emustaro 4 роки тому +4

    "People don't eat many french fries" Last week I was in the buslting downstairs lobby at Wayfare Tavern in SF hallway at the end of the lunch hour; a worker rolled by me with a three tiered cart, each tier piled high with large white frozen bags of something...
    I asked the deliverer, "What is in all those bags? French Fries?" I guessed.
    "That's right, Ma'm, he answered, and they will all be consumed at this evenings dinner hour"...
    Aghast, I remarked, "Really?"
    Without hesitation, he replied, "Without a doubt, yes."
    My my my......

    • @KenJackson_US
      @KenJackson_US 4 роки тому +4

      Wouldn't be so bad, if they were fried in beef tallow instead of vegetable oil.

    • @emustaro
      @emustaro 4 роки тому +1

      @@KenJackson_US Good point, that is true.....

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 2 роки тому

    Most keto people feel the odd real piece of fruit (not juices, flavouring, HFC) but actually eat an apple or some berries.

  • @yoso585
    @yoso585 4 роки тому +2

    It’s the gawdam potato chips! That’s what it is, for sure.

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 4 роки тому +4

      part of the problem, not all of it. potato chips often have the double whammy of being starch and being fried in polyunsaturated oils, which oxidize easily in the blood and damage our blood vessels.

    • @C2yourself
      @C2yourself 4 роки тому

      They're dangerous! I'm KETO now but only ate Cape Cod brand made with potatoes, sea salt and oil

  • @mcse-nv2ou
    @mcse-nv2ou 4 роки тому +22

    It's the sugar. We aren't designed to live off carbohydrates, processed sugars, high sugar fruits.
    We need meat, a few berries, few green leafy....
    We are hunter gatherers...
    The reason people don't want to hear this is that bread and cookies and pies and etc etc etc have to give it up... forever....
    Can't have a little hear and there because I deserve it.

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 4 роки тому +4

      Carbs are there for times of famine when we are desperate. Although our world population is unsustainable with any diet, I think there's room for balance if its determined better one way or the other; but I believe we should be nearly carnivore.

    • @mcse-nv2ou
      @mcse-nv2ou 4 роки тому

      @@dana102083 oh baby

    • @thalesnemo2841
      @thalesnemo2841 4 роки тому +1

      @dana102083
      Time to bring back the RUMINANTS!

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 4 роки тому +1

      @@thalesnemo2841 we could do stomach stapling...and use the remnants to someone wanting to ruminate! 😂😂😂 someone suggest that to a vegan..please haha

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 4 роки тому

      @@mcse-nv2ou ;)

  • @johwson6005
    @johwson6005 3 роки тому +2

    Sugar and salt are substitutes for good quality meat. PERIOD!

    • @aliendroneservices6621
      @aliendroneservices6621 3 роки тому +1

      Paul Mason recommends consuming 10+ grams of table salt per day.

    • @personontheinternet2164
      @personontheinternet2164 2 роки тому

      The highest quality meat in the world would still taste unappealing if you don't cook it with salt.

  • @susanhopemason
    @susanhopemason 4 місяці тому

    I do believe that sugar is a primary cause, but I don't believe it is the only one. I believe that seed oils, trans fats, grains, and starches, and plant toxins like oxalates should be indicted right along with sugar. Any food made up of glucose or fructose molecules which spike blood sugar and insulin is a bad food...including starches. And, any inflammatory food is also bad.

  • @Anyula
    @Anyula 4 роки тому +1

    Need subtitles in spanish, pls.

  • @x.y.7385
    @x.y.7385 4 роки тому

    Hi, can someone here who has had success with a LCHF diet please post how much and what you eat daily...thank you

    • @pqodbenliah
      @pqodbenliah 4 роки тому +6

      Typical for me is sausage/bacon and 3/4 eggs, and an avocado if I'm real hungry for breakfast. And coffee (if I need fat I'll throw in butter and coconut oil). Sometimes save it for lunch and skip breakfast.
      Later it's a tbone/ribeye and a bunch of brussel sprouts or asparagus. Or I make chicken wings. Save the bones in a freezer bag and make stock when they add up. Great for soup or something to sip on.
      Was meat only for 3 months and been keto for about a year now. Best choice I've ever made.

    • @FedericoDecara
      @FedericoDecara 3 роки тому +1

      X. Y. What Nate said, I also have 38% cream with espresso, about 1/3 cream, I make a protein shake w. 38% cream (about 60g-80g), 60g of pea protein powder, and water - drink fast before viscocity goes up, I make Caprese salad: mozzarella cheese cut in slices, on tomato slices, w. salt (directly on the tomato for best taste), pepper, herbs like basil or oregano, olive oil, vinager (only a bit, it has cabs). Remember to get “lots” of table salt and other electrolytes, and water. When on ketogenic diet, you will pee a lot more (and it will have a different smell).

    • @jogriffiths5766
      @jogriffiths5766 3 роки тому

      @@pqodbenliah Mmmmmmm...YUM !

  • @robinlillian9471
    @robinlillian9471 4 роки тому +1

    90 lbs/cane sugar/year=4 ounces/1/2 cup/cane sugar/day 4 ounces=24 teaspoons/day
    Starch consumption has NOT gone up.

  • @mreudeco
    @mreudeco 6 місяців тому

    Steve Jobs was not obese

  • @davidbradley3982
    @davidbradley3982 4 роки тому +1

    soooo ,... how to get off sugar ?.

    • @salemdesigns65
      @salemdesigns65 4 роки тому +5

      Stop eating it; pasta, rice, processed crap, grains, fructose, corn sugar, etc. Wean yourself off of it. It's not hard, it takes about 3 days. After that you won't crave it. Eat real food.

    • @wendysgarden4283
      @wendysgarden4283 3 роки тому

      Cold turkey. Plus, you have to cook to stick with it for life.
      I go further and grow all my own veg and fruits. (It has more nutrition than anything I can get at the store, though frozen comes closest, being frozen soon after picked ripe.) I suspect that craving nutrition might drive some "fake" hunger, or cravings, so I go for bright/deeply colored veg. Grocery list: cheese, butter or ghee, meat, plenty of eggs.

  • @robinlillian9471
    @robinlillian9471 4 роки тому

    Aha! So, that's where the BS about fructose making you eat too much came from. Someone (Tappy) just assumed that because fructose causes weight gain, and "everyone" knows that eating too much causes weight gain, that fructose must make people eat too much. Another mystery solved.

  • @Interestingworld4567
    @Interestingworld4567 4 роки тому

    46:05 what is "white meat" can someone tell tx

    • @kayallen7603
      @kayallen7603 4 роки тому +6

      Chicken and pork mainly is what is meant by white meat.

    • @AnimaLibera
      @AnimaLibera 4 роки тому +2

      Francisco Santos: In culinary terms, white meat is meat which is pale in color before and after cooking. A common example of white meat is the lighter-colored meat of poultry (light meat), coming from the breast, as contrasted with dark meat from the legs. Poultry white ("light") meat is made up of fast-twitch muscle fibres, while red ("dark") meat is made up of muscles with fibres that are slow-twitch. In traditional gastronomy, white meat also includes rabbit, the flesh of milk-fed young mammals (in particular veal and lamb), and pork. Wikipedia)

    • @salemdesigns65
      @salemdesigns65 4 роки тому

      White meat is leaner. Dark meat is fatty

    • @FedericoDecara
      @FedericoDecara 3 роки тому +2

      Kay Allen no, pork is red, from a nutritional standpoint. Lots of iron.

  • @maricamaas2326
    @maricamaas2326 8 місяців тому

    Looking forward to when Obesity will be ranked - not a cause, but a symptom - alongside increased Cholesterol production and High BP, and as an advantageous adaptive response of the Intelligently Designed body towards ensuring survival when under stress.

  • @emilymunton9978
    @emilymunton9978 3 роки тому +1

    With the theorizing that vegetable and seed oils are more likely culprits, what impact do refined carbs and sugar have on the body in the absence of these oils?

    • @hegeds
      @hegeds 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the comment, I was searching for this. I've also heard about the theory about a month ago that seed oil(linoleic acid) causes insuline resistance. Coupled with high intake of carbs we store more fat which causes more insuline resistance. I've found multiple articles about comparision between linoleic acid and oleic acid and it showed that linoleic acid does cause insuline resistance.(olive oil is rich in oleic acid) But I could not find any study (which was not epidemiology) that would compare linoleic, oleic and stearic acid concumption on insuline resistance.

    • @keithmadden9260
      @keithmadden9260 3 роки тому +1

      Yes yes, it's never sugar is it? It's,fat,it's artificial sweeteners,it's oil

  • @grantw7946
    @grantw7946 4 роки тому

    Chronic not Acute.

  • @rawmilkmike
    @rawmilkmike 3 роки тому +1

    I love Gary and his message, but he's not the ideal spokesperson for our cause. His logic is often sketchy, and he hem-haws around. Don't get me wrong he is a net plus. We need his help and insight. Maybe he could use a coach.

  • @douglivingstone4285
    @douglivingstone4285 4 роки тому +1

    Maybe he could explain why Vegan's who eat a diet high in carbohydrates have some of the lowest rates of obesity and type 2 diabetes.

    • @paulgee3411
      @paulgee3411 4 роки тому +1

      Some people are lucky enough to have a common genetic mutation that enables them to process carbohydrates more effectively. It is a mutation that came about when mankind started farming rather than hunter-gather. Google "Genetic diversity of CHC22" for the study.

    • @lucidmonkey3591
      @lucidmonkey3591 4 роки тому +1

      They just wither away and slowly go mental...

    • @pqodbenliah
      @pqodbenliah 4 роки тому +1

      Probably because, if you're vegan, you care about your health and eat organic whole foods. Ancestral genetics probably play a smaller role too.

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 3 роки тому +3

      There are two types of vegan. One type looks after themselves very well, they will not get diabetes 2 but the other will because they continue to eat sugary foods, lots of cakes and breads and cookies and they don't care what they eat as long as there is no animal fat in it. It isn't animal products that causes diabetes, that is more than clear. If it was we would have been suffering from it for millions of years.

    • @keithmadden9260
      @keithmadden9260 3 роки тому

      Most of us can't deal with carbohydrates,it's causing an epidemic of obesity.The more our food has become carb rich the more obesity has risen

  • @1rockster
    @1rockster 4 роки тому +8

    You lose credibility when you show illogical dislike of President Trump. Stick to nutrition. 😀😀

  • @naturalhealing9970
    @naturalhealing9970 4 роки тому +2

    Love, love, love Trump!!

    • @deendrew36
      @deendrew36 3 роки тому +2

      Natural Healing yikes

  • @FindleyOcean
    @FindleyOcean 2 роки тому

    A teacher ate nothing but twinkies for months in a caloric deficit and lost weight to show that calories in calories out works. You cannot break the law of thermodynamics.

    • @PieInTheSky9
      @PieInTheSky9 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah but the body isn't a closed system. It reacts differently to different calories. Things like metabolic rate will change based on what you're eating and when you're eating it,and the type weight you gain or lose will be different (losing muscle vs losing fat vs losing water weight).

    • @michaelousley6552
      @michaelousley6552 Рік тому

      You can lose weight on Twinkies. That does not mean that it is a sustainable method of body recomposition and fat loss.

  • @doddsalfa
    @doddsalfa 2 роки тому

    It’s important to understand this guy is a con artist and a very bad reader of the science literature

  • @UchihaChikiru
    @UchihaChikiru 3 роки тому

    No offense to Gary but it sounds to me like excess consumption of both sugar AND fat is what caused the obesity epidemic. But god we can’t tell people that, then *every* Industry would be upset lmfao

    • @keithmadden9260
      @keithmadden9260 3 роки тому +1

      Nonsense! Our grandparents and great grandparents ate literal lard for breakfast and they weren't obese. FAT isn't the problem.

    • @keithmadden9260
      @keithmadden9260 3 роки тому +1

      They ate bacon,cooked with bacon grease.ate eggs galore. And were very healthy on a high fat diet

    • @aliendroneservices6621
      @aliendroneservices6621 3 роки тому

      So you're a breatharian?

  • @MikeFrame
    @MikeFrame 2 роки тому

    Taubes is wrong.

  • @douglivingstone4285
    @douglivingstone4285 4 роки тому +1

    He could literally have the same presentation and blame fat instead of sugar. He's a journalist not a nutrition expert.

    • @KenJackson_US
      @KenJackson_US 4 роки тому +6

      The metabolic processes are different, so the argument wouldn't work.

    • @paulgee3411
      @paulgee3411 4 роки тому +6

      He is a SCIENCE journalist. The EVIDENCE does not support a hypothesis that fat results in diabetes, high BP, etc. Understand?

    • @NFL1976
      @NFL1976 3 роки тому +4

      Silly comment. Just 100% wrong.

  • @mufinmakesmusic1210
    @mufinmakesmusic1210 3 роки тому +1

    What a waste of an hour

    • @deendrew36
      @deendrew36 3 роки тому

      Mufin Makes Music seriously? Have you read his book? This is fascinating!

    • @theskyehiker
      @theskyehiker 2 роки тому

      There’s one in every group.

  • @garyroberts3859
    @garyroberts3859 3 роки тому

    This guy has no idea about getting to the point...he just goes on and on ..so annoying if you’re looking for information

    • @theskyehiker
      @theskyehiker 2 роки тому

      Take notes if you are having a hard time keeping up.

  • @ninehigh99
    @ninehigh99 4 роки тому +1

    Frank Tufano is more convincing these days than Gary Taubes. Still interesting to see him try to raise funds for NuSI tho. He’s not giving up, nor changing his mind on any of this.

    • @dalin6275
      @dalin6275 4 роки тому +2

      Frank is not looking well recently. i hope he is doing well.

    • @josephsmyth832
      @josephsmyth832 4 роки тому +2

      Slightly Vegan Your comments don’t make any sense because you didn’t really make a valid argument just accusations. You shouldn’t be throwing rocks from a glass house.

  • @zamplify
    @zamplify 4 роки тому +2

    They should have really turned the cameras off when he praised Trump 🙁

    • @frankenz66
      @frankenz66 4 роки тому +12

      Carbs feeds TDS... no idea why.

    • @spaceghost8995
      @spaceghost8995 4 роки тому +8

      Trump is a complete embarrassment to us and to the world. Just an asshole in every way.

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 роки тому +16

      @@spaceghost8995 Unfortunately, he is the only leader offering any hope against the globalist agenda and "business as usual" which drives so much of these issues. The Dems are completely corrupt and idiotic on diet, science and climate change.

    • @fvtaxslave8283
      @fvtaxslave8283 4 роки тому +18

      Space ghost, Trump isn’t embarrassing, it’s the the people who blindly follow the Democrats, and the truly named fake media, the vegan no meat agenda, the lbgtqp gay agenda, the man made global warming agenda to tax us out of existence. Keep following the democratic agenda 21 world wide depopulation globalists right into a fema camp.

    • @jenrobinson3711
      @jenrobinson3711 4 роки тому +8

      Made me like him even more

  • @proudchristian77
    @proudchristian77 2 місяці тому

    Skinny people's already do ! Y strict vegetarian diet is a safe way to eat ! & delicious & low fat ! 🥦🥑🫛🐟