I can't take ford seriously without remember his voice actor is the same person who said the "I DONT WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE!?" line
Fun fact: in the book of bill chaining someone up in a pyramid, singing to them,and torturing them until they beg for mercy is his idea of flirting. Considering that's literally what he did to Ford it kinda puts this scene in a new light
@@TheAbsoluteCYNical Bill straight up suggests doing this until they're so mentally broken that they confess their "true" feelings, and now I can't stop thinking about Bill apparently deciding that the best way to get that equation was by seducing Ford 💀
This is why I love Bill, his character is incredibly well designed. Like, this is what a villain should be. I get chills from how good the acting is, too, both in terms of voice acting, and how the animators/writers made him act.
The fact that this is Bill's idea of making someone love you shows how messed up and how down bad he was for Ford. He really is a possessive ex boyfriend.
@@Figaroma Yes!! Asexual actually, romantic oriented yes. But yeah I always knew Bill had something for Ford. He always "loved" him in his own disturbing way
@@AlicePBrigoleit’s mentioned in the new book “book of bill” in the part Bill talks about ways to flirt, one of the ways is literally what he did in this scene of the show
I’m pretty sure he said that to make himself look useful in front of bill, because if he didn’t have the equation bill wouldn’t see any use of him and would probably kill him
They have never been weird to me! Their relationship makes the most sense compared to other ships in the fandom. Before the betrayal, they were best friends, Ford trusted Bill, was devoted to his God to the point of obsession. I believe his feelings were mutual, but Bill's understanding of love is very twisted, so he manipulated Ford and used him for his own gain.
Before The Book of Bill: Oh, Bill's torturing Ford for information! Makes sense! After The Book of Bill: Love cage... What is going through that two-dimensional brain of yours, Bill...
@@Saiya_the_endcat Will this do... 🔫(ꏿ﹏ꏿ;) This is bringing back memories when I had a crack ship of Bill and another character from a piece of media unlike gravity falls... (^～^;)ゞ scary times...
@@scrp6638 “A-X-O-L-O-T-L, my time has come to burn! I invoke the ancient power that I may return!” The final (unreversed) words Cipher says before getting erased
Honestly, the moments like Bill smiling at telling Ford about the human couch, calling him Fordsy, offering Ford enough power to be basically a god, the brainiac nickname and the Ill make you talk 2:27 line with the context of the Book of Bill now seems more gay than it was back in the day.
@@eggi4443 or when you keep finding a book made by him to the point you write a note of warning and tell him to go choke on glass and that you're leaving him on read.
It would be a funny easter egg if bill actually referenced this to ford. It wouldn't be out of character for bill to break the fourth wall with his powers
2016: "Fordsy" Bill, that is a strange nickname to give to your mortal enemy. 8 Years Later: Oh, it all makes sense now and the context of this entire scene has been completely changed in a VERY STRANGE way, because of a certain book.
@@i_Have2BrainCells What happened, you ask? Gay divorce, that's what happened. There's actually a new Gravity Falls book out, It's called the Book of Bill, you should read it if you've watched the show, it's genuinely awesome.
@yashvibhardwaj9608 i am not into gay comics. Wait, they were in RELATIONSHIP??? SO thats what ford was doing inside that portal for all those years?!?!
@@i_Have2BrainCells OH HELL NAH It's, uh... complicated. First off, the Book of Bill is NOT a gay comic, the whole thing I'm talking about isn't even confirmed, just heavily implied, and there's no real stuff happening, and it's only in small parts of the book. Most of the book is about Bill and his attempts to trick you. As for what Ford was doing in the portal, uhm, he was HUNTING Bill down, I suggest you read Journal 3, it explains everything, and do some research on The Book of Bill (if you want)
@yashvibhardwaj9608 okay may try someday. Thanks for letting me know about all that, i was completely out of touch till now. Again, Thanks for your time for explaining all this
In The Book of Bill, it basically describes word for word this exact scene as an example of Bill's idea of flirting: "If your date is still somehow unimpressed by your screaming and smells, then simply trap them in a massive stone pyramid and sing an increasingly shrill song until they're mentally broken enough to confess their true feelings!" He also labeled this section "The "Love Cage"",, do with that information as you will
I'm glad people have picked up on it now bc of Bill's book, but idk why more people didn't sooner? Like he's literally serenading him with a song about romance. How else were people interpreting this before 😭
"Sixty degrees that come in threes. Watches from within birch trees. Saw his own dimension burn. Misses home and can't return. Says he's happy. He's a liar. Blame the arson for the fire. If he want's to shirk the blame. He'll have to invoke my name. One way to absolve his crime. A different form, a different time."
Wow, looking back at some of the scenes between Bill and Ford with the added context of their past "partnership" from reading the books really made me realize that Bill wasn't acting close with him just to be weird or funny, nah that traingle was HORNY for that dude
@@alastorsrealwife-z6win the book of bill he explains imprisoning someone in a giant pyramid and singing an exponentially creepy song until they give up and confess their love is his idea of flirting💀 the ppl who said he was gay years ago were missionaries
It is humorous knowing playing the piano is Bill's way of 'flirting', no matter how you perceive Ford and Bill's relationship, it's interesting how he never tried to kill Ford here despite everything, he cares but won't ever admit it. plus this scene has a different context regardless of the human torture moments😅
Bill: Everyone has a weakness, tough guy. I'll make you talk. It's only a matter of *TIME.* Ford: *Screams* Man, that is frightening! I know he said he knew the equation and all, but I really feel bad for Ford here... I feel he really was forced to *pay* for everything he's done.
I know I'm going to sound like a hypocrite here, but I'll be honest. I only said he messed up because I was afraid people would come after the comment if I didn't. I do believe Bill would have killed him if he said he didn't know it. I mean, Bill technically did that when he turned him into gold. He only reversed it because he needed him. That was a huge lie on my part. Sorry about that
Stanley dressed up as Stanford as Bill was chasing Dipper and Mabel, so Bill thought Stanley was Stanford. Stanford also used the memory gun, made by Fiddleford McGucket, to erase Bill from the world. But while doing so, Stanley also lost _his_ memory too. But Stanley recovered his memory in 1 week, which is good.
0:57 My favorite picture of Bill. Just pause it there and look at it for awhile. If you stare, you can see a look of regret beneath those lies of hatred. Really puts things into perspective.
@@i_Have2BrainCells i haven't read it myself, but basically theres this page where bill goes over "dating tips" and one section is almost word for word _exactly_ what he does to ford in this scene. whatever the hell was going on between them the BoB heavily implies it to have been romantic.
Bill Cipher your not the only one..:/ You really want to know? Yes?OK fine. (Warning,If you are pine tree do not pass) I THINK I LIKE BILL AS A FRIEND!! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Blissi, blossom y koru That would explain why he poured soda into Dipper's eyes while in the latter's body. I always assumed he was abusing the body for fun again.
Now that I read the book, yeah I should've known Bill calling Stanford "Fordsy" was pointing to some amount of romantic relationship between them, at least for Bill.
Ok so like old man yaoi aside, i got into gravity falls very recently and i cant describe how... haunting this scene is. Something about bill cheerily singing on the piano while ford watches chained to the ankle is just perfect. honestly a very strong contender for the best scene in the show ngl
i hadn't realized it until i watched through the show again with my dad, but i'm pretty sure bill is the only one that calls ford "fordsy." he really is down bad lmao.
"Not so fast! You know the rules Bill." Damn I’m actually impressed that Bill would follow the rules even he could have entered Ford’s mind without following the rules.
@@GANTZ100pts Nothing, because he isn't ABLE to break the rules. It's not like a higher being is governing him, he just simply can't enter Ford's mind without shaking their hand. The same way I can't fly because I want to
@@StardustLegend Stanford has a metal plate built into his head to defend against Bill's invasions. Bill being unable to invade Ford's mind is individual and unique to Ford because of the precautions he took. Cipher is also a "dream" demon in the essence that he's able to sift through people's heads when they're asleep. This is how Bill worked his "muse" system throughout history when he would enter people's minds. Point being, Stanley was unprotected, unconscious, and the only way to act against Cipher is to follow him into people's heads.
This dialogue is one of my favourite TV moments I've ever seen. He truly is, the best Cartoon villain ever. As goofy as any Disney character but with the motivations of a total psycopath.
Things that I was not able to notice: -Time stops every single time Bill appears. - Everyone is asleep when he appears (except Weirdmaggedon, then he is real) because he is a "dream-demon", a demon that haunts your dreams, so you must be dreaming to encounter him - That time when Gideon summoned Bill, he summoned him in the real world, but not as a real creature, where as Stanford had summoned him in the mindscape, where he had no way of getting into their dreams. - He must shake hands with the person he wants to posses, otherwise he can only enter their dreams. At the end credits of the Weirdmaggedon episode where Bill kills the Time Baby , there is a code that, when decrypted, says " It will take 1000 years for the Time Baby to regenerate and when he will be back, he will be very angry. " and in an episode where Dipper and Mabel use a time machine to go in the future, they go to the year 3012, exactly 1000 years after the death of the Time Baby, when we can see him destroying a futuristic city.
Yes but, when gideon summoned bill, he did it in the mindscape too, if you look at the episode you can see that after Bill leaves everybody else opens their eyes, meaning that the ritual also put people to sleep in a radio.
What I do want to understand is what exactly his dimension was like. We just know if it's describe as a "flat mind with flat dreams". Also, when he described he powers, he said that he "always wasn't this way". So that would mean when he was born or created, without his powers. So what made him gain it? Ugh...mysteries. Why do they exist?
Alex Hirsh said that Bill is based on a book called: Flatland, in which the whole second dimension world is explained, I'll put it this way: you have to put a coin on a table and then look at the coin sideways and level your head to the table until instead of seeing a coin you only see a line. That's how bill's world looked like all the time, it's boring and very restricted. I'm sorry I'm not really good at explaining it, if you read the first pages of the book you'll understand what Bill meant by a flat world. And as far a i know Bill has always had his powers and magic but he couldn't use them in his dimension due to the limitations his dimension had.
i like to think bill acquired his powers by being contacted in a similar manner to A. Square. some space land entity pulled him out, and bill being probably a new equilateral triangle was treated well (hence the top hat and stuff) but was still limited in his society. being exposed to a new dimension of existence, he realised there was much more to life and probably led a rebellion of sorts in his own dimension, using new resources he found ways to break the reality of the second dimension, essentially destroying it in order to have some semblance of freedoms of the third dimension, while also preparing him to make the full move. thats just my theory, of course.
Chao Flaka if you are still want too know and haven’t read it yet, then read the „Flat Dreams“ fanfic it’s really good andexplains Bills backstory and insanity very well (Btw didn’t I saw you on PSMD videos too?)
Even as a kid I always thought that they were kindof….. giving him wine and compliments as you sing him a song from your piano about meeting someone long ago while offering him ( for the 2nd time) a position in his henchmaniacs and holding him in chains. ( especially with the neck chain pulling him forward) I shipped them so hard when I was younger so it’s funny that everyone else has started now too.
same, that was exactly my reaction when he said that, i agree with u +amydiddle0317, he's a special kind of stupid, smart books wise, but everything else is just.....*sigh*
this was too good but I still can't get over how the line at 0:51 "but I wasn't always this way" It sounds like the most expositiony phrase he could have said to segway into a backstory. "I HAVE THE POWER TO WARP REALITY ITSELF!!! "Here's some backstory btw"
@@mallk238 ikr, it would’ve been nice if they made a backstory for Bill. I have so many questions like. Did Bill have a family?? Why did Bill became evil?? Was his family abusive?? How did Bill gain his powers?? How did he meet his friends?? And lastly, what was his world like?? I know his dimension is literally a flat world but it makes me wonder how it looks like.
@@ftumusiclover1239 bill's world that he comes from is based on a book called "Flatland" by edwin abott.I know they never get into his story in the show, but if you're interested in what his world was like, that's a book to read to give you an idea! (frankly yeah I think it is understandable that he'd go nuts if that was the place he grew up in lol)
@@eliteknight2137 two reasons: 1) bill did get permission to enter stan's mind. It was from Gideon! Demon laws aren't too picky about who lets them do what...the point is more gaining permission to interact with our world rather than an individual person. Think of how Bill offered to help dipper if he gave him a puppet. Dipper didn't OWN any of the puppets, they were mabel's, but in giving his permission to let bill use A puppet, he could get away with whatever he needed to do! (shown when he uses the dipper sock puppet at the end of the episode to speak to the twins) *BASICALLY* Gideon gave bill permission to interact with our world, but ONLY if he did it to enter stan's mind, and ONLY to get information; and in exchange he would gain a favor from Gideon to be redeemed later 2) Ford got a metal plate in his head. It keeps bill out of his brain. I can't remember if that meant it keeps him out entirely or if it just means he has a stronger defense against bill...but the metal plate helps. Also Ford knows about bill and can fend him off, stan was asleep and defenseless because he didn't know about bill.
honestly. this could be evidence bill will return. "we'll meet again" obvious. "don't know where, don't know when" meaning he doesnt know where or when he'll make his return. "some sunny day" hmmm. hinting twords abother summer. we may see bill cipher in alex's new show.
He’d be able to control everything kinda dimentio from mario style. Anything will be possible dimensional laws will no longer exist as he’d destroy them after transcending them. We could’ve had this outerversal deity, but instead he got stopped
@@azzydreamurr5677 Dimentio couldn't really control *everything,* even as Super Dimentio he merely had control over the Void, and claimed he would create new worlds after destroying them.
He'd never reach Outerversal. Outerversal means to transcend dimensionality itself. And the Gravity Falls verse doesn't have qualitative dimensionality as 2d planes can harm 3d stanford and 11d aliens die in a 3d spave crash. So these higher/lower dimensions aren't infinitely superior/inferior to 3D. Thus, Bill can never be more than 3D.
The way he keeps saying that the world will be "free" when his projection clearly shows him massacring everyone is messed up. Like he's so insane that he actually thinks people will enjoy that.
it's interesting because rather than bill owning up to what he's done he doubles down and becomes even worse. Even if it secretly disgusts him to his core. that's why he wants to take over 3d, it's literally just a coping mechanism. He lies and says he doesn't care about anyone and anything but you can actually see his real emotion that briefly at 0:54
i bet the second dimension is really uncomfortable especialy when you become aware of the third dimension and realize the freedoms you don't get to enjoy. Not to mension it wouldn't be aestheticly pleasing to look at. i can't imagine what the first dimension would be like.
Take a laser pointer and point at the wall the point you see from a 3D perspective is placed on a 2 dimensional plain and shows you a 1 dimensional life forms perspective which is 0D point a single point that gets brighter when you get close to your line segment comrade and dimmer as you move in the opposite direction from which you came
Three things: 1. In the book of bill, Ford dreams of showing he was attracted to logic. 2. Ford became Bill’s enemy after he closed the portal between dimensions. 3. Bill wanted Ford to tell him the equation. Not feelings for him. So, I’d hate to kill the vibe, but the only parts of this that WERE flirty were Ford being chained, Bill singing, and Ford being called “Fordsy”. Bill treats Ford in a way a man treats his wife in his perspective, but it’s not very romantic. But I will admit, Bills cover of “We’ll meet again” was awesome. It was the first time I heard the song.
0:54 The book of Bill makes this line way more disturbing and tragic. Bill honestly tried to liberate his reality from a two dimensional existence, but as result he accidentally destroyed it. Apparently, he ended up covered in blood, hearing all of his species scream, and shaking in fear at the realization of what he had done. But the event was so traumatic that he blocked that memory (he even blacks out when he tries to remember it), and being unable to accept the truth, he convinced himself that he had indeed "liberated" his dimension. He is literally insane and lost in his own delusion.
Just imagine if everyone left gravity falls on the spot, no defeating Bill just like getting out of there he cant follow us anyway. And then Bill and his weirdmagedon is trapped inside the barrier with no chance to leave forever. Stan probably finds a way to turn it into a tourist atraction with helicopter flights and stuff
Resurrecting a thread, but... anyone would go to this tourist trap, why? What I honestly imagine is if Ford and Stan WEREN'T able to pull off that trick, Bill would've just killed every last person infront of him, and just torment him for the rest of his days until he finally got him to talk. Either way, Ford's a mortal, so there's only so much Bill would be able to do to get him to talk..
@@souptikchakraborty2004 it would be a funny premise though. Like everyone writes off weirdnagetin as a landmark or maybe even an 8th wonder while bill is silently building up his way to escape gravity falls.
Honestly gonna miss Bill.
That insane, three sided demonic triangle.
Remember:
I INVOKE THE ACIENT POWER THAT I MAY RETURN
+Fearless Tyler159 We all do (i think)
yup );
+Various Scare yes your right
Won't we all? I will.
Bill is such a well written villain, like he's so evilly charismatic but his false charisma is really him being sinisterly evil holy shit
Yet at the same time.... he seems to act like an insane teen girl.
Fuking
he'll you. Swere
anime fan Is it a shame if i prefer Toffee than Bill?
anime fan And super charming! Gotta give him that!
like Aku
I can't take ford seriously without remember his voice actor is the same person who said the "I DONT WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE!?" line
Blake the Dweeb yess! portal 2!
DEMAND TO SEE LIFES MANAGER
I
WANT
SPIDER-MAAAAAAN
NOT MY FUCKING TEMPO.
Can you pay me in advance?
Fun fact: in the book of bill chaining someone up in a pyramid, singing to them,and torturing them until they beg for mercy is his idea of flirting. Considering that's literally what he did to Ford it kinda puts this scene in a new light
WHAAATTT!?!!! 😭😭😭
@@TheAbsoluteCYNical Bill straight up suggests doing this until they're so mentally broken that they confess their "true" feelings, and now I can't stop thinking about Bill apparently deciding that the best way to get that equation was by seducing Ford 💀
CRINGE!
I love how we all know that from the Bill book
Alright, CRINGE
This is why I love Bill, his character is incredibly well designed. Like, this is what a villain should be. I get chills from how good the acting is, too, both in terms of voice acting, and how the animators/writers made him act.
I completely agree with you.
funnily he's acted by alex hirsch himself
Hes "OverPowered" done right.
Fax
@@jpepito87 what makes Bill stand out is his wacky design, how such a entity could cause so much havoc is why many see him as a great villain
The fact that this is Bill's idea of making someone love you shows how messed up and how down bad he was for Ford. He really is a possessive ex boyfriend.
I always thought he was aro/ace. Welp, at least my ‘bill being ace’ headcanon still fits. Let’s hope that doesn’t change
@@Kat_dragon you can be aroace and want a relationship so it's fine
@meriewander Man, who knew this queer platonic relationship was gonna get THIS weird
@Kat_dragon someone else who headcanons him as aroace?!?!
@@Figaroma Yes!! Asexual actually, romantic oriented yes. But yeah I always knew Bill had something for Ford. He always "loved" him in his own disturbing way
can't believe this is canonically how bill flirts
Explain pls
@@AlicePBrigoleit’s mentioned in the new book “book of bill” in the part Bill talks about ways to flirt, one of the ways is literally what he did in this scene of the show
Book of bill just came out if you want to look for it@@AlicePBrigole
Guess infinite power also means infinite rizz-
Stolkholm syndrome is one of the most efficient ways to get baddies😏
ford’s pride is so funny because he would just not be in this situation if he lied and said he never figured out an equation
He's the stupidest genius ever and we love him for it
I’m pretty sure he said that to make himself look useful in front of bill, because if he didn’t have the equation bill wouldn’t see any use of him and would probably kill him
“Hank not to tell you your business but I’m not sure I agree”
@@Joudx13that makes sense. Though Ford is egotistical and might’ve not thought of that
Um iirc Bill can mind read. So trying to bullshit Bill is going to make things worse for Ford xD
The way Billford went from a weird niche ship to cannon with the BoB will never not be funny to me
Old man yaoi always prevails
@@Faithr606 as it should
RIGHT YOURE TELLING ME THAT BEFORE THIS YEAR MY FAVE SHIP WAS A RAREPAIR
@@Faithr606 These words must remain on Twitter and Tumblr, *BEGONE!*
They have never been weird to me! Their relationship makes the most sense compared to other ships in the fandom. Before the betrayal, they were best friends, Ford trusted Bill, was devoted to his God to the point of obsession. I believe his feelings were mutual, but Bill's understanding of love is very twisted, so he manipulated Ford and used him for his own gain.
How did i never noticed the bitter ex vibe that Bill has with Ford lmaoo
Love the pfp lmao
THE BOOK OF BILL HAS SO MUCH CANON EVIDENCE OF ONE SIDED BILLFORD
@@lc9571 Yet Bill used to be Fords center of the galaxy, his sun.
BROOOO, I hate these two soooo much. (/afc)
@@joutakujo9773 ughhhh ikr?!?
bill is such an ex like he even got drunk and cried over ford 😭
@@lc9571 he's so pathetic I love it 😭
Bill’s tips on how to flirt:
I’m using it
@@WANDWANDERSsame
Would it work?
It's soo funny to see the difference between the perspective of bill of this situation after i read the book lol
Before The Book of Bill: Oh, Bill's torturing Ford for information! Makes sense!
After The Book of Bill: Love cage... What is going through that two-dimensional brain of yours, Bill...
Sexual shaming fetishes?
frrrrr
HAHA, I basically came RUNNING here after reading his love advices 💀🖐
@@magicalboymlm explains the wine glasse-
After reading the book of bill, and seeing these two’s very…weird relationship
Someone get me the memory gun 💀
@@Saiya_the_endcat
Will this do... 🔫(ꏿ﹏ꏿ;)
This is bringing back memories when I had a crack ship of Bill and another character from a piece of media unlike gravity falls... (^～^;)ゞ scary times...
@@LpsRoseGold thx this made it slightly better
I always thought he was aro/ace. Screw billdip and billford, and the rest of those ships, he’s aromoantic asexual, fight me
I always knew there was something fishy about those cuffs man 😭
0:58
"Saw his own dimension burn. Misses home and can't return. Says he's happy. He's a liar. Blame the arson for the fire..."
But he said he liberated his planet.
@@stephenbyrne2170 denial
@@stephenbyrne2170 dimension
“If he wants to shirk the blame, he’ll have to invoke my name...”
@@scrp6638 “A-X-O-L-O-T-L, my time has come to burn! I invoke the ancient power that I may return!”
The final (unreversed) words Cipher says before getting erased
You do realize that this is the most we've ever gotten about Bill's origins.
either way if we got into detail im sure it would be as complex as star wars lore
@@417Owsy Not that much. His origin is as simple as a twisted mind bored of its simple two-dimensional world, with too much power on his own hands.
there was the other book too
the one with the Axolotl
Soft World Building is honestly the best.
It encourages people to ask questions to strive toward an understanding that in reality may be unobtainable.
@@mithril5155 Kinda late but it was saod that his hime life was worse than Stans.
We need a full piano concert by Bill!
IKR!!!!!
indeed
we'll meet again
don't know where
don't know when
oh i know we'll meet again some sunny days
we'll meet again
don't know where
don't know when
ooh i know we'll meet again
some sunny day
torvovenator that'd be amazing
Honestly, the moments like Bill smiling at telling Ford about the human couch, calling him Fordsy, offering Ford enough power to be basically a god, the brainiac nickname and the Ill make you talk 2:27 line with the context of the Book of Bill now seems more gay than it was back in the day.
when your ex is so toxic you install a metal plate in your head to keep him out of it 💀
@@eggi4443 or when you keep finding a book made by him to the point you write a note of warning and tell him to go choke on glass and that you're leaving him on read.
I love this comment
@@claudialuquepazos2934 or that you have to tell your entire family to also leave notes of warning just to be safe-
“I’ll make you talk” and that expression bills face is just thirsty as fuck
Well if only Bill had offered him photos of spiderman...
Just Saying pfft omg
I was two years late with this joke
It would be a funny easter egg if bill actually referenced this to ford. It wouldn't be out of character for bill to break the fourth wall with his powers
Or lemons
Or combustible lemons.
2016: "Fordsy" Bill, that is a strange nickname to give to your mortal enemy.
8 Years Later: Oh, it all makes sense now and the context of this entire scene has been completely changed in a VERY STRANGE way, because of a certain book.
what happened?
@@i_Have2BrainCells What happened, you ask? Gay divorce, that's what happened.
There's actually a new Gravity Falls book out, It's called the Book of Bill, you should read it if you've watched the show, it's genuinely awesome.
@yashvibhardwaj9608 i am not into gay comics. Wait, they were in RELATIONSHIP??? SO thats what ford was doing inside that portal for all those years?!?!
@@i_Have2BrainCells OH HELL NAH
It's, uh... complicated.
First off, the Book of Bill is NOT a gay comic, the whole thing I'm talking about isn't even confirmed, just heavily implied, and there's no real stuff happening, and it's only in small parts of the book. Most of the book is about Bill and his attempts to trick you.
As for what Ford was doing in the portal, uhm, he was HUNTING Bill down, I suggest you read Journal 3, it explains everything, and do some research on The Book of Bill (if you want)
@yashvibhardwaj9608 okay may try someday. Thanks for letting me know about all that, i was completely out of touch till now. Again, Thanks for your time for explaining all this
In The Book of Bill, it basically describes word for word this exact scene as an example of Bill's idea of flirting:
"If your date is still somehow unimpressed by your screaming and smells, then simply trap them in a massive stone pyramid and sing an increasingly shrill song until they're mentally broken enough to confess their true feelings!"
He also labeled this section "The "Love Cage"",, do with that information as you will
Everything makes so much more sense now.
Bill is FREAK freak 💅
bill
🎩
👁️
👅
"It's a simple equation that can collapse the barrier."
Since it's coming from Ford it might not be so simple
XD yeah
It’ll be a 200-page equation knowing Ford
@@mysticash7695 XD
Yea, he's ridiculously intelligent, its probably only simple to him
nothing a space demon cant understand
the people who saw this scene YEARS ago, and knew it was gay, from JUST this?? incredible. truly visionaries.
Me, i'm the people
@@Bellringgwhat’s it like knowing u had the biggest brain all along
I'm glad people have picked up on it now bc of Bill's book, but idk why more people didn't sooner? Like he's literally serenading him with a song about romance. How else were people interpreting this before 😭
Me✊
Ikr? They were unappreciated in their time fr
"Sixty degrees that come in threes.
Watches from within birch trees.
Saw his own dimension burn.
Misses home and can't return.
Says he's happy. He's a liar.
Blame the arson for the fire.
If he want's to shirk the blame.
He'll have to invoke my name.
One way to absolve his crime.
A different form, a different time."
Wyatt Szakacs
oh
Wyatt Szakacs omg. The Axolotl is so smart.
The Axolotl is so smart you know? WE ALERADY KNOW THİS from the film theory channel
what is this from
@@user-gf2sw8qk2n your right
The difference between the old comments and the new comments though
Now according to the book of bill he is in a better place.
Eternal Therapy
But to Bill it’s a nightmare
Doesn’t he go insane?
Theraprism lol
@@Insertthestranger Even more reason for him to get therapy
I still miss him though he was a fun shape 😢 maybe he’ll find a girlfriend and heal his wounds of self harm and he’ll come back.
Wow, looking back at some of the scenes between Bill and Ford with the added context of their past "partnership" from reading the books really made me realize that Bill wasn't acting close with him just to be weird or funny, nah that traingle was HORNY for that dude
"Did you find a way to undo it? "
"No"
End of Gravity Falls
It all would’ve been prevented if Stanley didn’t eat chips near Ford’s motion machine thingy all that time ago.
@@theonetruemilkman4894 LOL
@@theonetruemilkman4894😂or he can just fixed the machine and re-enter next year😂
It’s funny, if he lied than they’d probably end up losing the final battle. As bill wouldn’t care to make the deal that ended up killing him.
@@schmoovle7244not true since he would still not kill him, but would still know.
Everything makes so much more sense now…
EXPLAIN
@@alastorsrealwife-z6w Old man yaoi
@@alastorsrealwife-z6w In the new book of bill, bill is kinda zesty
@@alastorsrealwife-z6win the book of bill he explains imprisoning someone in a giant pyramid and singing an exponentially creepy song until they give up and confess their love is his idea of flirting💀 the ppl who said he was gay years ago were missionaries
I love reading the newest comments 😂
Me too!
samee AHHAHAHA
Fr it's all coming together
Same ❤❤❤😂😂😂
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It is humorous knowing playing the piano is Bill's way of 'flirting', no matter how you perceive Ford and Bill's relationship, it's interesting how he never tried to kill Ford here despite everything, he cares but won't ever admit it. plus this scene has a different context regardless of the human torture moments😅
The human torture moments are part of Bill's flirting thing
Bill: Everyone has a weakness, tough guy. I'll make you talk. It's only a matter of *TIME.*
Ford: *Screams*
Man, that is frightening! I know he said he knew the equation and all, but I really feel bad for Ford here... I feel he really was forced to *pay* for everything he's done.
no he SAVED himself by saying he knew the equation
I know I'm going to sound like a hypocrite here, but I'll be honest. I only said he messed up because I was afraid people would come after the comment if I didn't. I do believe Bill would have killed him if he said he didn't know it. I mean, Bill technically did that when he turned him into gold. He only reversed it because he needed him. That was a huge lie on my part. Sorry about that
Stanley dressed up as Stanford as Bill was chasing Dipper and Mabel, so Bill thought Stanley was Stanford. Stanford also used the memory gun, made by Fiddleford McGucket, to erase Bill from the world. But while doing so, Stanley also lost _his_ memory too. But Stanley recovered his memory in 1 week, which is good.
And then he got raped
Temmie Flakes sorry...
This scene has an entirely different mood now upon reading the Book of Bill
I choked on my coffee when I read the love advice chapter💀 in hindsight, it should’ve been obvious
it's 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 now
what happened in the book?
0:57 My favorite picture of Bill. Just pause it there and look at it for awhile. If you stare, you can see a look of regret beneath those lies of hatred. Really puts things into perspective.
Yeah..l
“Says he’s happy, he’s a liar”
“Saw his own dimension burn, misses home and can’t return.”
I've never thought about that...
But yeah, it seems there is a slight inch of regret in his eye...
@@rimfire8217 "Blame the arson for the fire"
after the book of bill i see this scene so different
what happened in the book?
@@i_Have2BrainCells i haven't read it myself, but basically theres this page where bill goes over "dating tips" and one section is almost word for word _exactly_ what he does to ford in this scene. whatever the hell was going on between them the BoB heavily implies it to have been romantic.
Hello gravity falls fans 8 years ago. I wonder how yall feel now knowing billford is canon
на седьмом небе)
I wish your kind wasn't flooding the comments :)
@@Buto.7103 its a fictional pairing its not that serious ❤️
@@Buto.7103 cry
@@Buto.7103to bad its canon so cry about it
Am I the only one who thinks Bill is a great singer and should play in concert he would be so awesome I would totally go see him perform
Bill Cipher your not the only one..:/
You really want to know? Yes?OK fine. (Warning,If you are pine tree do not pass)
I THINK I LIKE BILL AS A FRIEND!! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
True, me too.
Coming from the Dorito himself
he dose
Wait a minute here...
...just look at how he drinks...with his FUCKING EYE!
Blissi, blossom y koru
That would explain why he poured soda into Dipper's eyes while in the latter's body. I always assumed he was abusing the body for fun again.
"Aaarrgghhhh Do you know how long it takes to regenerate that?!
+Allison Shriener OH YEAH
Blissi, blossom y koru When he ate Earth with a mouth on his eye.
Snoi Med lol
The projection that Bill did at 1:52 representing the thought of Ford having infinite power represents how i feel in this moment.
Now that I read the book, yeah I should've known Bill calling Stanford "Fordsy" was pointing to some amount of romantic relationship between them, at least for Bill.
"I'm InSaNe EiThEr WaY bRaNiAc!" best Bill Cipher line ever.
How romantic
2:13 that sassy sitting 😭-
Ok so like old man yaoi aside, i got into gravity falls very recently and i cant describe how... haunting this scene is. Something about bill cheerily singing on the piano while ford watches chained to the ankle is just perfect. honestly a very strong contender for the best scene in the show ngl
calling him “fordsy” bro is down bad 😭🙏
IKR-
i hadn't realized it until i watched through the show again with my dad, but i'm pretty sure bill is the only one that calls ford "fordsy." he really is down bad lmao.
The fact this is how Bill flirts is giving this scene a whole new perspective
"Not so fast! You know the rules Bill."
Damn I’m actually impressed that Bill would follow the rules even he could have entered Ford’s mind without following the rules.
Then again what would have happened to him if he did break the rules?
@@GANTZ100pts Nothing, because he isn't ABLE to break the rules. It's not like a higher being is governing him, he just simply can't enter Ford's mind without shaking their hand. The same way I can't fly because I want to
@@alexasin5691 but he was able to literally invade Stanley’s mind for the safe combination. What’s the difference here?
@@StardustLegend Stanford has a metal plate built into his head to defend against Bill's invasions. Bill being unable to invade Ford's mind is individual and unique to Ford because of the precautions he took. Cipher is also a "dream" demon in the essence that he's able to sift through people's heads when they're asleep. This is how Bill worked his "muse" system throughout history when he would enter people's minds. Point being, Stanley was unprotected, unconscious, and the only way to act against Cipher is to follow him into people's heads.
He can't, just as how he can't escape Gravity Falls and rule the universe.
This dialogue is one of my favourite TV moments I've ever seen. He truly is, the best Cartoon villain ever. As goofy as any Disney character but with the motivations of a total psycopath.
The one of best villians you mean
@@daniapfel9673 he is arguably the best. + hes my second favorite
@@DeadPixel_ Ok dude
@@DeadPixel_ Ok dude
Wouldn't call him a total psychopath personally, depends on how exactly you define the term ig
Things that I was not able to notice: -Time stops every single time Bill appears. - Everyone is asleep when he appears (except Weirdmaggedon, then he is real) because he is a "dream-demon", a demon that haunts your dreams, so you must be dreaming to encounter him - That time when Gideon summoned Bill, he summoned him in the real world, but not as a real creature, where as Stanford had summoned him in the mindscape, where he had no way of getting into their dreams. - He must shake hands with the person he wants to posses, otherwise he can only enter their dreams. At the end credits of the Weirdmaggedon episode where Bill kills the Time Baby , there is a code that, when decrypted, says " It will take 1000 years for the Time Baby to regenerate and when he will be back, he will be very angry. " and in an episode where Dipper and Mabel use a time machine to go in the future, they go to the year 3012, exactly 1000 years after the death of the Time Baby, when we can see him destroying a futuristic city.
Yes but, when gideon summoned bill, he did it in the mindscape too, if you look at the episode you can see that after Bill leaves everybody else opens their eyes, meaning that the ritual also put people to sleep in a radio.
@@casmartle Yes they were, at the end of the scene you can see them opening their eyes just like gideon.
O yea, also with Dipper’s Guide to the Unexplained with the mailbox, it said that the world will end in 3012
old man toxic yaoi
SO TRUE BESTIE
REALL
REAL HOW DID WE NOT SEE THEM BEFORE THEY'RE SO OBVIOUS 😭
No
REAL
I didn't know that Doritos could play the piano
When all is said and done you will believe ford is a woman by Ariana grande 1:54
He is now a dorito pyramid
Same
HES NOT A DORITO
@@lauriidoesstuff he’s a magical Dorito.
What I do want to understand is what exactly his dimension was like. We just know if it's describe as a "flat mind with flat dreams". Also, when he described he powers, he said that he "always wasn't this way". So that would mean when he was born or created, without his powers. So what made him gain it? Ugh...mysteries. Why do they exist?
Alex Hirsh said that Bill is based on a book called: Flatland, in which the whole second dimension world is explained, I'll put it this way: you have to put a coin on a table and then look at the coin sideways and level your head to the table until instead of seeing a coin you only see a line. That's how bill's world looked like all the time, it's boring and very restricted. I'm sorry I'm not really good at explaining it, if you read the first pages of the book you'll understand what Bill meant by a flat world. And as far a i know Bill has always had his powers and magic but he couldn't use them in his dimension due to the limitations his dimension had.
i like to think bill acquired his powers by being contacted in a similar manner to A. Square. some space land entity pulled him out, and bill being probably a new equilateral triangle was treated well (hence the top hat and stuff) but was still limited in his society. being exposed to a new dimension of existence, he realised there was much more to life and probably led a rebellion of sorts in his own dimension, using new resources he found ways to break the reality of the second dimension, essentially destroying it in order to have some semblance of freedoms of the third dimension, while also preparing him to make the full move.
thats just my theory, of course.
Just a girl with books so that’s why he said that he is not always that way coz of the limitations? I see make sense..
Chao Flaka if you are still want too know and haven’t read it yet, then read the „Flat Dreams“ fanfic it’s really good andexplains Bills backstory and insanity very well
(Btw didn’t I saw you on PSMD videos too?)
So gravity falls can
I still cant believe this ship is canon
Holy shit
Even as a kid I always thought that they were kindof….. giving him wine and compliments as you sing him a song from your piano about meeting someone long ago while offering him ( for the 2nd time) a position in his henchmaniacs and holding him in chains.
( especially with the neck chain pulling him forward)
I shipped them so hard when I was younger so it’s funny that everyone else has started now too.
It's a sham Bill Cipher is dead, he's my favorite Disney villain
Mine as well.
He's alive somewhere out there
The Critisized Fool he is my favorite
THAT'S THE SHAM TOTAL, IT'S A TOTAL SHAM.
CobbleChez Videos There are rumors of a spinoooooof...
Theres something really funny about this technicaly being a scene about a toxic ex trying to get his relationship back
Ah yes Bill
This is "Flirting"
great now I have to kinkshame a frickin triangle
XD
what?!
OH... I'll turn your page If ya know what I mean....
+Sansy Fresh are you a fan of undertale? cuz you're name has sans in it
Jennifer Romro
Ye bruh
+Sansy Fresh OMG me too bruh!
Honestly i adored whenever these two talked, there arguments and understanding of one another was always so good
there's a simple equation that could collapse the barrier - but I will never tell you!
...
*facepalm*
He's a special kind of stupid. Smart books wise, everything else. *sigh*
Hey, that's not true!
It was only this time.
same, that was exactly my reaction when he said that, i agree with u +amydiddle0317, he's a special kind of stupid, smart books wise, but everything else is just.....*sigh*
I don't think he's stupid.
Did you forget, that Bill knows *everything*?
After bill's book, now I understand everything.. 😰
this was too good but I still can't get over how the line at 0:51 "but I wasn't always this way"
It sounds like the most expositiony phrase he could have said to segway into a backstory.
"I HAVE THE POWER TO WARP REALITY ITSELF!!!
"Here's some backstory btw"
@@lydiarodriguez1255 Its been two years since this comment and I'm still low key mad we never got bills backstory
@@mallk238 ikr, it would’ve been nice if they made a backstory for Bill. I have so many questions like. Did Bill have a family?? Why did Bill became evil?? Was his family abusive?? How did Bill gain his powers?? How did he meet his friends?? And lastly, what was his world like?? I know his dimension is literally a flat world but it makes me wonder how it looks like.
@@ftumusiclover1239 bill's world that he comes from is based on a book called "Flatland" by edwin abott.I know they never get into his story in the show, but if you're interested in what his world was like, that's a book to read to give you an idea!
(frankly yeah I think it is understandable that he'd go nuts if that was the place he grew up in lol)
I don't understand when ford say that he must let bill in his mind but previously he didn't need permission to go into stan's mind
@@eliteknight2137 two reasons:
1) bill did get permission to enter stan's mind. It was from Gideon! Demon laws aren't too picky about who lets them do what...the point is more gaining permission to interact with our world rather than an individual person. Think of how Bill offered to help dipper if he gave him a puppet. Dipper didn't OWN any of the puppets, they were mabel's, but in giving his permission to let bill use A puppet, he could get away with whatever he needed to do! (shown when he uses the dipper sock puppet at the end of the episode to speak to the twins)
*BASICALLY* Gideon gave bill permission to interact with our world, but ONLY if he did it to enter stan's mind, and ONLY to get information; and in exchange he would gain a favor from Gideon to be redeemed later
2) Ford got a metal plate in his head. It keeps bill out of his brain. I can't remember if that meant it keeps him out entirely or if it just means he has a stronger defense against bill...but the metal plate helps. Also Ford knows about bill and can fend him off, stan was asleep and defenseless because he didn't know about bill.
It's so funny seeing the new comments after the book of bill
Ikr
40% Glazing Bill
40% "why did ford do that"
20% old man yaoi
When did that book out even?
honestly. this could be evidence bill will return.
"we'll meet again"
obvious.
"don't know where, don't know when"
meaning he doesnt know where or when he'll make his return.
"some sunny day"
hmmm. hinting twords abother summer. we may see bill cipher in alex's new show.
:'0 I hope sooooo
whoa, i didnt even take that as evidence, ur smart dude :)
+Imaan Ahmed
Thanks!
ThatBlueMate TM
ur welcome
hopefully not...
THE SUBTITLES AT MINUTE 0:41-
Lol
Bet this person feels real vindicated LOL.
fordsy 💕
I SHIPPED THESE TWO A LONG TIME AGO I KNEW IT!!! 🎉
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YESS
Whyyyyy
Better than shipping billdip though😭 @@the_cloaker
@@the_cloaker because I need a ship that includes Ford and incest is off the table
This is so funny after knowing that Bill really is just Ford's very clingy and desperate ex
1:26 probably the best moment of Bill Cipher
He’d be able to control everything kinda dimentio from mario style. Anything will be possible dimensional laws will no longer exist as he’d destroy them after transcending them. We could’ve had this outerversal deity, but instead he got stopped
@@azzydreamurr5677
Dimentio couldn't really control *everything,* even as Super Dimentio he merely had control over the Void, and claimed he would create new worlds after destroying them.
He'd never reach Outerversal. Outerversal means to transcend dimensionality itself. And the Gravity Falls verse doesn't have qualitative dimensionality as 2d planes can harm 3d stanford and 11d aliens die in a 3d spave crash. So these higher/lower dimensions aren't infinitely superior/inferior to 3D. Thus, Bill can never be more than 3D.
The way he keeps saying that the world will be "free" when his projection clearly shows him massacring everyone is messed up. Like he's so insane that he actually thinks people will enjoy that.
@@bradleyadams5252and they will. Its just not everyone.
Ford spilling his life's work to bill in the worst situation. classic
it's interesting because rather than bill owning up to what he's done he doubles down and becomes even worse. Even if it secretly disgusts him to his core. that's why he wants to take over 3d, it's literally just a coping mechanism. He lies and says he doesn't care about anyone and anything but you can actually see his real emotion that briefly at 0:54
"THINK, BILL, THINK! You can't enter my mind unless I shake your hand!!"
insteresting how the ending implies there is a rule that if the person doesn't know the rules, bill doesn't need a handshake to invade their mind
The handshake rule really only applies to Ford because of the metal plate in his head.
@@insomniacstacythat makes a lot of sense actually
Queermageddon
i bet the second dimension is really uncomfortable especialy when you become aware of the third dimension and realize the freedoms you don't get to enjoy. Not to mension it wouldn't be aestheticly pleasing to look at. i can't imagine what the first dimension would be like.
neffdigity dog
EVERYTHING IS A FUCKING DOT THE THIRD DIMENSION IS SO BETTER
Take a laser pointer and point at the wall the point you see from a 3D perspective is placed on a 2 dimensional plain and shows you a 1 dimensional life forms perspective which is 0D point a single point that gets brighter when you get close to your line segment comrade and dimmer as you move in the opposite direction from which you came
@@thesovietflaganthemguy2344 Ever heard of punctuation?
Blue yes and on the internet it doesn’t matter
@@thesovietflaganthemguy2344 It does when it makes your writing a pain in the ass to read
CAN AN ANT DO THIS FORD! CAN AN ANT DO THIS!
No, Ants can't do this. They're not smart enough.
NOW, DOES ANYONE HAVE PESTICIDES?
XD
I like how Bill switches from 2D to 3D everytime he appears on screen
after the book of bill... i think i see this in a different way
Same haha
As grim as this scene is, I laughed at 0:53 when poor Ford fell on his face. That was a straight Family Guy landing.
oh my god its insane that hes canonically freaky
A party that never ends with a host that never dies. Wow he sounds confident
This scene means different things to me now.
0:56 this scene hits differently after the Book of Bill....
0:45 the thing is this just shows how powerful Bill is at this point unlike most villans he acctualy won for multiple days
sorry😢
Honestly one of the best cartoon characters and villians ever
now that billford is mainstream, i'd just like to mention that at 1:45, each one of the henchmaniacs gets a planet while ford gets a whole galaxy
Me encanta que gracias al libro de Bill ahora se sabe que todo esto fué un intento de cortejo a Ford JSJSJD
Real JAJAJAJAJAJA
Mi cabeza explotó cuando me enteré-
Venimos por lo mismo jajajajaja
Se me cayó un ídolo
This hits different knowing billford is canon
This scene has a whole new meaning after reading the Book of Bill..
Am I the only one who thinks Ford is the hottest Old Guy ever to walk the faces of the earth...?
agreed
me too
and Rick
OMG YES JFC
Mint Willow yes.... and i hate that i do.
Carter Mason what?
Three things:
1. In the book of bill, Ford dreams of showing he was attracted to logic.
2. Ford became Bill’s enemy after he closed the portal between dimensions.
3. Bill wanted Ford to tell him the equation. Not feelings for him.
So, I’d hate to kill the vibe, but the only parts of this that WERE flirty were Ford being chained, Bill singing, and Ford being called “Fordsy”. Bill treats Ford in a way a man treats his wife in his perspective, but it’s not very romantic.
But I will admit, Bills cover of “We’ll meet again” was awesome. It was the first time I heard the song.
Wait if bill is "all knowing" than how come he dosent know the equation? i just out smarted a God.
Mary Barrios He lost his ability to know and see all when he obtained his physical form.
Mary Barrios They can't make anything too easy for him. They need conflict, not complete annhilation.
hmmmmmmmmm
Snoi Med In his AMA he admitted to lying about his power, and he was probably lying about his intelligence as well.
Snoi Med Like the devil in every book or show that has the devil and is actually good.
“You’re insane if you think I’ll help you”
“IM INSANE EITHER WAY BRANIAC”
0:54 The book of Bill makes this line way more disturbing and tragic. Bill honestly tried to liberate his reality from a two dimensional existence, but as result he accidentally destroyed it.
Apparently, he ended up covered in blood, hearing all of his species scream, and shaking in fear at the realization of what he had done.
But the event was so traumatic that he blocked that memory (he even blacks out when he tries to remember it), and being unable to accept the truth, he convinced himself that he had indeed "liberated" his dimension.
He is literally insane and lost in his own delusion.
Just imagine if everyone left gravity falls on the spot, no defeating Bill just like getting out of there he cant follow us anyway. And then Bill and his weirdmagedon is trapped inside the barrier with no chance to leave forever. Stan probably finds a way to turn it into a tourist atraction with helicopter flights and stuff
Resurrecting a thread, but... anyone would go to this tourist trap, why? What I honestly imagine is if Ford and Stan WEREN'T able to pull off that trick, Bill would've just killed every last person infront of him, and just torment him for the rest of his days until he finally got him to talk. Either way, Ford's a mortal, so there's only so much Bill would be able to do to get him to talk..
Bill can haunt dreams
He'd find ways to haunt people
@@souptikchakraborty2004 it would be a funny premise though. Like everyone writes off weirdnagetin as a landmark or maybe even an 8th wonder while bill is silently building up his way to escape gravity falls.
That's wat I was thinking of
Watching this from the perspective of them as exes really hits different
2:12 "You know the rules and so do i"
Bill makes the most awesome entrances
After reading the book its clear bill has some.... Intimacy for ford
YES
...
NO
@@HoppsVCastroyes
what happened in the book?
Ok but what if they kissed
Kissing mouth to eye😏
@@ScriptUser-pk9ix hot
@@ScriptUser-pk9ixWHY did you have to bring this image into my head?
I wonder if Bill was really serious about "you'd be one of us" considering his relationship with him..
Probably was, he thought Ford would come back to him eventually, and he likes being right.
maybe