The girl broke no law. The mother only found out about the situation once the family was back in the UK. Not adhering to the facts of the story is disingenuous.
@@petrabrown4232 It does not matter when the mother found out; she still went out of her way to get the boy in trouble over something that was consensual. Moms actions is not factoring in the accountability/culpability of the child she raised in this situation. Technically the girl did break a moral law in Dubai. If the boys face is plastered all over the news so should the girls.
@@petrabrown4232 - My understanding from what I read is that she would have been imprisoned too because she was under 18. No one is disingenuous. Despite what you are saying what the mother did was spiteful her daughter was a consenting party.
Ah you answered my question. Racist indian mother. Well i have news fot indian parents, many of their daughters are going with black boys, many. Without their knowledge
It is not Brown or White issue. Poor Mother knows no Indian family would accept a Girl who has had pre-Marital sex. Indian culture is not same as British or African culture.
It is not Brown or White issue. Poor Mother knows no Indian family would accept a Girl who has had pre-Marital sex. Indian culture is not same as British or African culture.
It’s always been this way, the racism of Asian people towards black people is deeply ingrained. I’m probably much older than everyone here - back in the 80s when I was at University I became quite friendly with an Indian girl in my class. There was no relationship nothing sexual - we just used to sometimes walk home together as we lived in the same area. All it took was for one of her extended family to see us together, they told her parents, who then forbid her to attend Uni. It was about 6 weeks before she came back to class….we never walked home from class after that, although she still wanted to, but it just wasn’t worth the grief she would get from her parents.
It’s astonishing to me how much lack of compassion people have for this boy. Yeah he’s is 18, but only just coming into adulthood. The mum is upset that her daughter slept with a black boy end of. The mum is evil. Her daughter participated.
@@lally4869 We shouldn't make it about race unless we are sure that that is the case. Asian parents generally don't want their children to be active outside of marriage irrespective of the race of the individual.
It’s not about lack of compassion ….it boils down to the law of the land…. Why go to other peoples country and break their law… how would you feel if it was your son …. He broke the law she was under age…. Yes the girls mother is a B but of that was my daughter I’d be livid… black me need to stop thinking dem is entitled…. If they let people off for breaking the law then what’s the point of a law? I’m not saying he should get locked up it’s sad but he broke the law….
Your children will turn out like the kids they are discussing. Vicious cycle continues in the black community with this irresponsible opinionated parenting. Un-African.
Dubai is a great place to visit....BUT ITS NOT THE WEST. Remember, that part of the world has alleged questionable human rights issues. This should serve as a brutal wake up call to Black folks going to that country. All that glitters is not gold; Racism is real, and is a international phenomenon.
@@gamingwithangel582 and @sharonakumiah Absolutely. Some of us move like Racism won't effect us. We flock to the bright lights of Dubai assuming we will have the same rights there or even better than where we have come from. This young man's humanity has been ripped away from him in the plink of an eye!...no mercy has been given, and no political support provided, even though our Foreign Secretary is a black man.They treat their own people of colour little better than salves....we should be prepared for what might happen if we are deemed to have broken laws in their country. Our fate will not be the same as a white person/national...this situation is proof...BLACK TRAVELLERS BEWARE
Black people need to spend their money where they are welcome. Laws in Muslim countries are not the same as here. The writing is on the wall. stick to your own and spend your money where it is appreciated and you feel at home. She knew what she was doing when she done it. She did not report him until she was back here with her daughter and they couldn't do nothing to her. The Government should extradite the daughter to Dubai to face her judgement too.
😂 exactly, it’s laughable. He’s married to a white woman isn’t he! He most certainly wouldn’t have got to where he is if he had indeed ‘stood’ in his blackness
Most of the black females are unloveable. (Especially things that grew up in the west.) Sincerely a black male still looking for a black female to love loool
Most black men are married to black women. However black women are no better when it comes to being vindictive. Lets start teaching our young black men to beware of females. Reason it was the female and the snake/dvil that got on.
I am sorry, one of the ladies is right! Always explain and educate our children about respecting and other people’s cultures! We travel to Egypt and Morocco once a year, and I always tell my girls what wear, how to conduct themselves! Because as black people, we never know who is watching us, who may want to set us up! The girls mother is evil, point blank, she just hated the her precious daughter slept with a black boy!
Egypt and Morocco are black countries, but invaded by the middle east Muslims colinised Africa, Egyptian black kings and queens , built the pyramids which stands today of black history
I'll be honest, even if we weren't black. I'd tell my girls to wear appropriate clothing anyway, cause the men in Egypt and Morocco.....argh you don't want to be hounded. Let me not get in to it.
Next time time teach the kids tell them go to the Carribbean or Mediterranean, for a holiday, or decent British holidays, not the middle east islamic countrys, if you know your history back in the biblical days the those Muslim countries was the first to enslave the blacks , making them all colinised with their Muslim culture, then the Europeans finished the slaved trade, so the blacks are Hebrews or the Israelites , those people have mixed up with their racism and corruption
This is a wake-up call to everyone who's planning to travel to another country. They should try and learn the dos and don'ts in those countries so that they don't find themselves in such predicaments.
The parents were very ignorant, you dont and tell a Indian family that my black son just slept with your daughter. What the hell were they thinking. They slept together, and they are teenagers, why did the parents go tell. Poor boy. Thanks to ignorant parents
Africans who believe that everyone loves them like they love everyone who hates them. The parents were approaching them as parents all she saw was a Black and acted accordingly.
The scary thing is that he's been put in a high security prison with actual grapists, life deleters, and terrorists.. He's never going to walk out that prison being the same person he was when he went in.....
The mother of this girl is a disgraceful vindictive human being and they should be named and shamed. She waited to get her daughter back to the UK then called the Police. This is pre meditated. How can you do this to somebody else's child???? The parents of the boy approached the mother of the girl to discuss what had happened thinking they were doing the right thing. I feel for this poor boy and of course his parents. David Lammy, please do something to help this poor family.
If Marcus parents had a daughter, would they allow her to be sleeping around with a boy she just met on holiday??? Race has got nothing to do with it!!! Self respect and self esteem matter in the Indian culture and to many other cultures. As a black mum, I would have reported him too.
The swearing is not needed but I agree that people should stop going to Dubai! Parents need to pre warn their kids about travelling to other countries and abiding by their laws.
Can we stop making everything a race issue!? Firstly, why aren't we looking to teach our children to be better? Why is it being normalised for teenagers to engage in sexual acts? Why do we condone unacceptable behaviour and expect the world to be given because of race? At the age of 18, you are an adult - and you need to respect the laws of the land. These 18 year olds are very aware of things as they have access to all information online. Otherwise, why are the parents not teaching their children the rights and wrongs? These 'aunties' are the ones who fail to hold people accountable because of race and want the world to give all the freedoms. FACTS - at the age of 18, you have no business poking around another human. Focus on your education and being a better man/woman Sorry, this is the real world. Certain countries/cultures don't condone certain behaviours, respect it!
Thank you!!! Normalising bad behaviour. If the girl got pregnant and became a single mum, these same people would treat her like she and the baby are invisible "benefits" scammers! As a mom of a black daughter, I would report him too - which kind holiday romance??? We normalise nonsense and wonder why the world is upside down and our children have mental health issues 😮
@@ivye1826it's the fact it's two unmarried people sleeping together so she should be prosecuted too. The mum knew she would agi h is why she reported it when back in the uk.
How is it the mother’s fault… this young lad knew what country he was in and he knew the laws of that country… he is the one to blame actually and he alone…. he should’ve controlled himself and his desires and waited til he got back to his home country… that’s all he had to do… he could’ve avoided this whole messy saga… but instead he gave in to his carnality… the boy did wrong… there’s no skirting over that fact… and so A 1 yr custodial sentence… That’s the punishment you receive for breaking the law in Dubai… those laws apply to all not just to some… this lad is not above the law… and now he must serve the time… Simples !!
Thank you!!! I feel like there is a lack of accountability on his part. I wonder if he was a black girl if people would be so quick to coddle?!?! Our black boys need to have discipline in terms of their bodies and sexual behaviour. Too many black boys see sexual prowess as an achievement. Let’s also not pretend that her racial background isn’t important here. There are countless stories where this dynamic is a “rebellion” for some girls re race and black boys take the bait, and stop thinking with their brain. This tendency to allow boys “to sow their wild oats” etc is dangerous. You go everywhere trying to have as much sex as possible, and you don’t even think about the country you’re in?!?! I’m sure if this was a black girl, everyone would be saying “she should have known better”. We spend so much time policing black girls & women, but the boys are allowed to just be outside and do whatever. Sorry, I didnt mean for my reply to be so long!!!! 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️❤
As foreigners travelling to different countries, it is our responsibility to research the laws of those countries. If we don't abide by those countries' laws, we must suffer the consequences. Unmarried sex and underage sex are not lawful in Dubai. It may be tolerated in some cases but they can enforce the law. Both parents should be held accountable for not schooling their kids on this.
No They are decent people and tried to do the right thing but the girl’s family is just nasty . Just know that regardless of race we are all following this case closely and are on the side of the victim ( the young man) . He will be set free .
Like why?!?!?! Why?!?! They’re Asian, and you’re still in Dubai at this point?!? Makes no sense, but maybe that’s why this boy’s decision making was ridiculous, maybe everyone is dunce 😂😂❤
📌Dubai law IS DUBAI LAW, PERIODD. You lot going on about why it was not fair is bizarre. The boy and his parents are ALL at fault. All they can do now is appeal for Dubai to show grace.
How many people are sitting in jail due to a result of "doing the right thing". That being said, the old saying "Snitches get stiches"may be valid in the eyes of many
Too right! Swearing totally unnecessary! First time watching/listening and certainly won't be doing that again. Precious time spent listening to crude words. A hard lesson at such a young age. We shd teach our children to value self first and not be so quick in accepting.... May Creator grant him strength among harden, evil men in that harsh environment.
We need to teaching our children values and morals. When will black people understand that there are different laws and rules for us in comparison to others. Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. You need to know the laws of other country and respect it period.
The struggle Lammy had to get to this point is enormous. He fought for those who were punished by the government, when few did. Nobody is a police force to dictate how anyone chooses to fight for. Respect is due to Lammy, who knows what he may have tried to do in the background!
Why do we need to know the Mum's name? Yes I agree she totally weaponised the law against this boy but what do you expect from a community that doesn't like us. At the same time, people need to know how to behave when they go abroad. People see Dubai as glitzy but fail to understand that it is still a strict islamic country. It's a Western problem thinking people can go anywhere and behave how they want. Also it's too bad there aren't enough males teaching other males about discipline. Should have kept it in his pants mate. He was on a family holiday not a boys holiday. I don't see the men in uproar and starting petitions. This isn't our problem.
ALL OF THIS!!!!! He though it was a conquest and now look. Sometimes it’s ok to keep it in the pants, you don’t have to F everyone you come across, have some self control
The girl is the minor in this case, and if she is Asian she has brought shame on her family. Therefore, they will do everything to conceal the name and image.
Exactly!!!! This is a culture that stresses purity, virginity, sex within marriage etc honour killings exemplify how serious they are about certain things. Also for her it’s really embarrassing that her mother knows she’s had sex. Who would his parents tell her mother?! They could have potentially put her in danger, (family angry etc) and now look, he’s the one now receiving the fulll consequences.
They both broke the rules. Would you at that age know the fing rules of Dubai? Neither the boy or the girl knew the rules. Whose responsibility was it to educate the young people of the rules? Hint: the parents
The Lady in the Purple makes the most points on this one! Why should we stop ourselves travelling, we just need to understand and follow and respect other country laws. It’s that simple! And as a mother I do feel for this young man but also him and that girl are too fast! Sleeping together in his parents bed..he’s very bright and out of order! They should have just waited till they reached back in the Uk, that was their arrangement apparently! This is a real shame!
Facts!!!! Toooooo dyam bright!!! We spend so much time policing black girls, yet the boys get to do whatever. No self control, no discipline, he probably thought it was an achievement to boast about with his mates. Sometimes it’s ok to keep it in your pants, what if she then said it was grape?!?! If he was a black girl there would be no sympathy at all.
The mother of the girl has embarrassed her daughter internationally by trying to malice a black boy. It’s not going to change anything because the act has happened. Not sure what she was hoping to achieve with her actions
Unpopular opinion: young boys it's not everyday holiday romance, you were on vacation with your family and couldnt discipline yourself to not think about nyash.
Poor boy! I know the girl must be feeling it. Supposing she decides to marry the boy after the jail term! What would her mum do? It’s so awful what the mother did!
She's done nothing black women don't to black men. Stop calling her names, she's a great mother. The boy is learning a lesson, he'll be back wise & careful.
Lammy has always been a wasteman. Just look who he surrounds himself with. But then again, he's "Labour" so.... As for the young boy, he did nothing wrong but this should be a lesson to stay with his own. Im not saying mistreat black women, but he (we) will never be accepted in certain groups so why venture. Message to the black youth. Build good working / cultural/ business relationships with good people from all walks of life, but when it comes to personal relationships...stick to your own.
For once I agree with Sade. Black people should visit and invest in Africa. Dubai is all fakery. They don't even respect us. We will only be respected when we respect ourselves.
Man said stay with his own 😂 I’ve met one south Asian parents that were fine with me dating their daughter, in fact we were friends before and they encouraged us to date, it’s my parents that have the problem with me dating out
Exactly. That's what black parents should be teaching their children. I wouldn't be surprised if this young man had said negative things about BW and only date non blacks. A devastating consequence, never the less.
Did you see him on question time get every answer wrong? He thinks Libya is next to Syria. He's a danger to us all and embarrassing. He is also that thick he thinks he's English.
UAE has an awful human rights records (most Emirati states do). We need to reject their marketing ploys and not go there. Horrid place. I hope this young man comes home soon.
As a Black British guy who lived in the region for a decade I do think we need to educate ourselves on certain destinations before travelling even if that means having that awkward conversation with our young before we travel. It's very easy to have a lax attitude while being in this Western European bubble to how other parts of the world operate. Now having said that I do believe the mother of the 17 year old girl was being vindictive. I noticed she reported the case to the Dubai authorities after they had left Dubai. The possible reason for this could be if she had reported the issue while in Dubai then the 17 year old girl would've also been arrested because of pre-marital sex under the local islamic law. Depending how damning the actual text messages were I could only think this should have been a misdemeanor at best as both parties are not there. I can only hope the British government can intervene and get this boy home. In short we need to be mindful of our surroundings.
We love Dubai such beautiful peaceful city I feel safe walking on streets , no knife crime.no girls get raped and killed. my mum just bought a villa there . Im so excited we are moving spring 2025.
The boys parents were too interested in being cool parents they knew the girl was sneaking around with there son from what I read the lesson is don’t entertain other people’s children because what is fine for yours might not be fine for others he’s parents put him at risk simple the same way you entertain the lil girlfriends coming over to hang out stop allowing children because until your buying your own ish your a child to do adult things simple his parents ignored the law saw it as nothing as black parents of a black son they were careless you see what gyal can do
David Lammy is a joker absolute joke Ever since taking up That role he appears so meek and mild like hes lost his voice. All the noise he made on LBC when he was presenting and and was crtical of the opposition look at him now. Take that MP seat away from him now!
When in rome do as the romans. When in Britain do as the british. When in africa do as the africans. The same goes for countries in the middle east . When in their countries eg the united emirates , learn their laws and obey them. Every country is not as soft as Britain.
Yes she knew what she was doing. Protected her girl and made sure the boy goes to prison . Her girl consented,it was not rape! The action of the girls mother should be shamed .
Lame lammy can’t do jack because it’s against the law in Dubai if the Indian girl was there she would get locked up too….they broke the law… black the boys mother….
I do think the programme would run better with less profanity,i get it i am from south london but on a professional level ladies,keeping it real dont mean reaching those levels
Consensual sex with a minor? Being 18 makes you an adult, 17!years you are a minor. “Ignorance of the law is no excuse”. UAE (Dubai) is a Muslim nation, I’m not a citizen of that country but I would presume before taking a flight from UK to UAE you would have a talk with your family on consequences of not obeying laws in foreign countries.
@@bolasworld5425Honestly he should have known better! You can’t travel to places like Dubai and not understand or abide by their laws! This is the consequence and it’s a real shame!
Poor marcus. Only made a decision with his own brain that was going to affect his whole life with a girl that he chose to be with. How dare anyone hold him accountable for decisions that he makes. Its absurd. Free him now there are loads of underage girls to be with in england that wont report him. Free marcus now. All he did was sleep with someone who was underage its not like he committed any crimes🤬 heart goes out to the family who obviously didn't protect him, hope they enjoy the gofund me😊
Don't mind them!! Then we wonder why the welfare state is at breaking point. Kids sexualised too early, wanting to play "adults" until a baby is on the way.... suddenly the boy's education is important and "not ready to be a dad"... abortion? Adoption? Single mum??? Then we wonder why society is all messed up and these so called " aunties" normalising bad morals! 😮
More information has come out the mother lied to the police over there saying it wasn't consential. It was they were intimate on more than one occasion. Rather than the mum accepting her daughter is active her contempt for the fact it was with a brother she saw red and took all her anger out on him. Its evil and another reminder that BAME doesn't exist.
I’ve seen a name, Mrs Davinder Kaur being spoken about as the girl’s mother who reported the young man to the police. I don’t know that’s correct. Don’t want to spread misinformation.
Lets be real here....a lot of you on these comments are saying the boy broke dubia law. How many of us read about the laws of tge countries before travelling 🤔. Stop being hypocritical. The lesson here is better not to be intimate with anyone until marriage or at least you know their back ground.
The mother brought her back to the UK before reporting it because she knew her daughter would have been imprisoned as well.
@@njemilenantan2269 Awful, The actions of the mother is truly vengeful and wicked
@@DottyGirl Yes they are. Her picture is out there. Karma never loses an address.
The girl broke no law.
The mother only found out about the situation once the family was back in the UK.
Not adhering to the facts of the story is disingenuous.
@@petrabrown4232 It does not matter when the mother found out; she still went out of her way to get the boy in trouble over something that was consensual. Moms actions is not factoring in the accountability/culpability of the child she raised in this situation. Technically the girl did break a moral law in Dubai. If the boys face is plastered all over the news so should the girls.
@@petrabrown4232 - My understanding from what I read is that she would have been imprisoned too because she was under 18. No one is disingenuous. Despite what you are saying what the mother did was spiteful her daughter was a consenting party.
The girl should be extradited back to Dubai to face charges too.
@@eon001 lol
She could have been. But the issue is she was 17 (under age) whilst it happened. So technically didn't commit any crimes in the eyes of Dubai law.
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@@uok6216 Not sure if that's true, but if it is, fair enough. I'm just sick of people say "Well he broke the law" when the BOTH did.
Her name is Davinder Kaur and she’s from Tottenham
yes!
Ah you answered my question. Racist indian mother. Well i have news fot indian parents, many of their daughters are going with black boys, many. Without their knowledge
It is not Brown or White issue. Poor Mother knows no Indian family would accept a Girl who has had pre-Marital sex. Indian culture is not same as British or African culture.
It is not Brown or White issue. Poor Mother knows no Indian family would accept a Girl who has had pre-Marital sex. Indian culture is not same as British or African culture.
It’s always been this way, the racism of Asian people towards black people is deeply ingrained. I’m probably much older than everyone here - back in the 80s when I was at University I became quite friendly with an Indian girl in my class. There was no relationship nothing sexual - we just used to sometimes walk home together as we lived in the same area. All it took was for one of her extended family to see us together, they told her parents, who then forbid her to attend Uni. It was about 6 weeks before she came back to class….we never walked home from class after that, although she still wanted to, but it just wasn’t worth the grief she would get from her parents.
It’s astonishing to me how much lack of compassion people have for this boy. Yeah he’s is 18, but only just coming into adulthood. The mum is upset that her daughter slept with a black boy end of. The mum is evil. Her daughter participated.
@@lally4869 We shouldn't make it about race unless we are sure that that is the case. Asian parents generally don't want their children to be active outside of marriage irrespective of the race of the individual.
Facts
I agree with the Black Sis Turkey 🇹🇷 and Dubai is not for us
It’s not about lack of compassion ….it boils down to the law of the land…. Why go to other peoples country and break their law… how would you feel if it was your son …. He broke the law she was under age…. Yes the girls mother is a B but of that was my daughter I’d be livid… black me need to stop thinking dem is entitled…. If they let people off for breaking the law then what’s the point of a law? I’m not saying he should get locked up it’s sad but he broke the law….
Problem is they break their own laws all the time and get no consequences for it!@@tahliah6691
Hearing these black
Women defend this black child is beautiful ❤❤❤
Stupid more like. He ignored every blk girl and went for Pooja Kaur.
Child! he's a man.
I agree
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He's a man, not a child.
Your children will turn out like the kids they are discussing. Vicious cycle continues in the black community with this irresponsible opinionated parenting. Un-African.
Dubai is a great place to visit....BUT ITS NOT THE WEST. Remember, that part of the world has alleged questionable human rights issues. This should serve as a brutal wake up call to Black folks going to that country. All that glitters is not gold; Racism is real, and is a international phenomenon.
Facts! We need to educate ourselves. Even in Africa, some countries have some harsh laws. Just know the Middle East is on a whole different level.
@DottyGirl This is a harsh reality. Whoever goes there must understand the culture and law for their own good.
@@gamingwithangel582 and @sharonakumiah Absolutely. Some of us move like Racism won't effect us. We flock to the bright lights of Dubai assuming we will have the same rights there or even better than where we have come from. This young man's humanity has been ripped away from him in the plink of an eye!...no mercy has been given, and no political support provided, even though our Foreign Secretary is a black man.They treat their own people of colour little better than salves....we should be prepared for what might happen if we are deemed to have broken laws in their country. Our fate will not be the same as a white person/national...this situation is proof...BLACK TRAVELLERS BEWARE
@@gamingwithangel582Facts!
Exactly I’d never go there
Black people need to spend their money where they are welcome. Laws in Muslim countries are not the same as here. The writing is on the wall. stick to your own and spend your money where it is appreciated and you feel at home. She knew what she was doing when she done it. She did not report him until she was back here with her daughter and they couldn't do nothing to her. The Government should extradite the daughter to Dubai to face her judgement too.
Amen. Caribbean and Africa me please. Middle East can have their wickedness.
detained in dubai said she is one month younger. no one should be going to jail for that
For real!
Before her picture and name were released, i knew what kind of people would be behind this. It doesn't suprise me one bit.
They obviously don't know who lammy is if they think he 'should stand in his blackness.'
😂 exactly, it’s laughable. He’s married to a white woman isn’t he!
He most certainly wouldn’t have got to where he is if he had indeed ‘stood’ in his blackness
Lammey🥥🥥🥥🥥🥥 Badenock🥥🥥🥥🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
Dubai, Saudi and Pakistan are not for me as a woman.As a black woman I think I could be in even more danger. No thanks.
His parents failed him!
High time, we should speak to our younger black men to love their black women.
Most of the black females are unloveable. (Especially things that grew up in the west.) Sincerely a black male still looking for a black female to love loool
If he had sex with a black girl he would be imprisoned, because he would not be married to her, it's that simple!!
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@@abdulsesay5160 definitely. All this chasing and idolising of foreign women is not a good look.
Most black men are married to black women. However black women are no better when it comes to being vindictive. Lets start teaching our young black men to beware of females. Reason it was the female and the snake/dvil that got on.
I am sorry, one of the ladies is right! Always explain and educate our children about respecting and other people’s cultures! We travel to Egypt and Morocco once a year, and I always tell my girls what wear, how to conduct themselves! Because as black people, we never know who is watching us, who may want to set us up! The girls mother is evil, point blank, she just hated the her precious daughter slept with a black boy!
EXACTLY ….👍
@ericacosta987 - Agreed
Egypt and Morocco are black countries, but invaded by the middle east Muslims colinised Africa, Egyptian black kings and queens , built the pyramids which stands today of black history
Truth
I'll be honest, even if we weren't black. I'd tell my girls to wear appropriate clothing anyway, cause the men in Egypt and Morocco.....argh you don't want to be hounded. Let me not get in to it.
He's learning the hard way young.
BLACKS IN DUBAI .............A BAD COMBINATION !
Exactly, if you're black, think carefully about where you travel and how that country treats ethics minorities.
Well if you can’t behave yourself and respect the culture of the land then I guess it will end in tears
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What utter rubbish, loads of white people have been locked up also should they stop travelling?..
Lessons should be learnt but black people are always pushing up on these people and it's a fact Asians don't like black people
It's going to be such a long journey for that young lad. My heart goes out to him
It's a nightmare
In an actual prison with grown criminals
Might become a bit heartless when he is out
Next time time teach the kids tell them go to the Carribbean or Mediterranean, for a holiday, or decent British holidays, not the middle east islamic countrys, if you know your history back in the biblical days the those Muslim countries was the first to enslave the blacks , making them all colinised with their Muslim culture, then the Europeans finished the slaved trade, so the blacks are Hebrews or the Israelites , those people have mixed up with their racism and corruption
Her daughter should be in jail too!
@mamaify4809 The reason he is in jail is because she was a minor not simply because he had sex.
This is a wake-up call to everyone who's planning to travel to another country. They should try and learn the dos and don'ts in those countries so that they don't find themselves in such predicaments.
The parents were very ignorant, you dont and tell a Indian family that my black son just slept with your daughter.
What the hell were they thinking.
They slept together, and they are teenagers, why did the parents go tell. Poor boy.
Thanks to ignorant parents
Moo moos
Africans who believe that everyone loves them like they love everyone who hates them. The parents were approaching them as parents all she saw was a Black and acted accordingly.
Absolute stupid idiots, now they're all crying
Exactly 😂 When we’ll black folk understand that Indians hate us 😂 (most asians in general to in fact)
When you have an evil mother, that's how they operate.
We are feeling it for our boys but they want to venture into other cultures & don't know the consequences. Maybe we don't value our girls enough.
The PM was in the Middle East a few days ago, why didnt David make a call to the Dubai authorities?
What for? He broke a law now he's paying the consequence. End of.
Why should he be obligated to do that???
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Because he promised to help.
@@truezladye1893 Oh!
Disgusting, this happened to this young man. Thanks for highlighting this case. ❤ I pray they bring this young man home now!!🙏🙏🙏
Thats what upset me when some black people reach certain position they cant help there own people this is so sad that poor young man and his family
What help?? He went to another country and broke a law. There are consequences for that.
Black people helping "their own people" 👏👏👏
White people helping "their own people" 😱😫😭 Wagghhhh !! RRRAAYYYCISSMMS!!😱
The scary thing is that he's been put in a high security prison with actual grapists, life deleters, and terrorists..
He's never going to walk out that prison being the same person he was when he went in.....
And some poor black girl gonna pick up the pieces
Wtf
😢 sorrows Prayers
F ing scary
The mother of this girl is a disgraceful vindictive human being and they should be named and shamed. She waited to get her daughter back to the UK then called the Police. This is pre meditated. How can you do this to somebody else's child???? The parents of the boy approached the mother of the girl to discuss what had happened thinking they were doing the right thing. I feel for this poor boy and of course his parents. David Lammy, please do something to help this poor family.
If Marcus parents had a daughter, would they allow her to be sleeping around with a boy she just met on holiday??? Race has got nothing to do with it!!! Self respect and self esteem matter in the Indian culture and to many other cultures. As a black mum, I would have reported him too.
I agree 100% .....Real African culture forbids what this Carribean boy did.....Its nothing to do with race....
His parents were foolish to say that their son got some from the daughter, what parents would like to hear that.
Stupid ones
Nothing but FACTS spoken here 🙌🏾
The swearing is not needed but I agree that people should stop going to Dubai! Parents need to pre warn their kids about travelling to other countries and abiding by their laws.
Agree 100
They can swear on their show.
People can express themselves as they wish! Who are you to tell people that its not needed?
Swearing just lowers the tone. You can express yourself without it, totally unnecessary.
Important topic though
@@Jae-by3hf I can express myself as I wish!
Doesnt matter that his black. Obey the law and respect the culture.
Can we stop making everything a race issue!?
Firstly, why aren't we looking to teach our children to be better? Why is it being normalised for teenagers to engage in sexual acts?
Why do we condone unacceptable behaviour and expect the world to be given because of race?
At the age of 18, you are an adult - and you need to respect the laws of the land. These 18 year olds are very aware of things as they have access to all information online. Otherwise, why are the parents not teaching their children the rights and wrongs?
These 'aunties' are the ones who fail to hold people accountable because of race and want the world to give all the freedoms.
FACTS - at the age of 18, you have no business poking around another human. Focus on your education and being a better man/woman
Sorry, this is the real world. Certain countries/cultures don't condone certain behaviours, respect it!
Thank you!!! Normalising bad behaviour. If the girl got pregnant and became a single mum, these same people would treat her like she and the baby are invisible "benefits" scammers! As a mom of a black daughter, I would report him too - which kind holiday romance??? We normalise nonsense and wonder why the world is upside down and our children have mental health issues 😮
Why isn’t the girl not getting any legal repercussions? Didn’t she consent?!
Lock Her Up!
He was 18, which is legal
She was 17, which is illegal
@@ivye1826it's the fact it's two unmarried people sleeping together so she should be prosecuted too. The mum knew she would agi h is why she reported it when back in the uk.
😂take responsibility keep your pants up he could be done for rape parents take responsibility talk to your children. He doesn’t know her before
How is it the mother’s fault… this young lad knew what country he was in and he knew the laws of that country… he is the one to blame actually and he alone…. he should’ve controlled himself and his desires and waited til he got back to his home country… that’s all he had to do… he could’ve avoided this whole messy saga… but instead he gave in to his carnality… the boy did wrong… there’s no skirting over that fact… and so
A 1 yr custodial sentence… That’s the punishment you receive for breaking the law in Dubai… those laws apply to all not just to some… this lad is not above the law… and now he must serve the time…
Simples !!
Thank you!!! I feel like there is a lack of accountability on his part. I wonder if he was a black girl if people would be so quick to coddle?!?! Our black boys need to have discipline in terms of their bodies and sexual behaviour. Too many black boys see sexual prowess as an achievement. Let’s also not pretend that her racial background isn’t important here. There are countless stories where this dynamic is a “rebellion” for some girls re race and black boys take the bait, and stop thinking with their brain.
This tendency to allow boys “to sow their wild oats” etc is dangerous. You go everywhere trying to have as much sex as possible, and you don’t even think about the country you’re in?!?!
I’m sure if this was a black girl, everyone would be saying “she should have known better”. We spend so much time policing black girls & women, but the boys are allowed to just be outside and do whatever. Sorry, I didnt mean for my reply to be so long!!!! 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️❤
Well said Natalie - I agree with everything you’ve said in your reply there buddy… Thank you…. wishing you a great and restful evening / weekend ;)’
As foreigners travelling to different countries, it is our responsibility to research the laws of those countries. If we don't abide by those countries' laws, we must suffer the consequences. Unmarried sex and underage sex are not lawful in Dubai. It may be tolerated in some cases but they can enforce the law. Both parents should be held accountable for not schooling their kids on this.
I just wonder whether a Black Mother would have called the police on this boy...ijs
Welp looks like Marcus' parents are a bit dumb too. They basically snitched on their son?
So dunce...
No
They are decent people and tried to do the right thing but the girl’s family is just nasty .
Just know that regardless of race we are all following this case closely and are on the side of the victim ( the young man) .
He will be set free .
Like why?!?!?! Why?!?! They’re Asian, and you’re still in Dubai at this point?!? Makes no sense, but maybe that’s why this boy’s decision making was ridiculous, maybe everyone is dunce 😂😂❤
With the opinion of these ladies, no wonder black kids in the London area are growing up without direction. This is irresponsible parenting.
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📌Dubai law IS DUBAI LAW, PERIODD. You lot going on about why it was not fair is bizarre. The boy and his parents are ALL at fault. All they can do now is appeal for Dubai to show grace.
How many people are sitting in jail due to a result of "doing the right thing".
That being said, the old saying "Snitches get stiches"may be valid in the eyes of many
The swearing in this video is so unnecessary. It takes away from the debate and just lowers the tone of the discussion.
Too right! Swearing totally unnecessary! First time watching/listening and certainly won't be doing that again. Precious time spent listening to crude words.
A hard lesson at such a young age. We shd teach our children to value self first and not be so quick in accepting.... May Creator grant him strength among harden, evil men in that harsh environment.
We need to teaching our children values and morals. When will black people understand that there are different laws and rules for us in comparison to others. Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. You need to know the laws of other country and respect it period.
The mother name is ravinder kaur
The struggle Lammy had to get to this point is enormous. He fought for those who were punished by the government, when few did. Nobody is a police force to dictate how anyone chooses to fight for. Respect is due to Lammy, who knows what he may have tried to do in the background!
Praying for the young man"s early release and that God deals with Davinder Kaur as he feels fit.🙏
Thats why google and Wikipedia is free 😂😂
Know the law of the country you going to its not about blackness
Why do we need to know the Mum's name? Yes I agree she totally weaponised the law against this boy but what do you expect from a community that doesn't like us. At the same time, people need to know how to behave when they go abroad. People see Dubai as glitzy but fail to understand that it is still a strict islamic country. It's a Western problem thinking people can go anywhere and behave how they want.
Also it's too bad there aren't enough males teaching other males about discipline. Should have kept it in his pants mate. He was on a family holiday not a boys holiday.
I don't see the men in uproar and starting petitions. This isn't our problem.
You sound lonely and unpopular.
ALL OF THIS!!!!! He though it was a conquest and now look. Sometimes it’s ok to keep it in the pants, you don’t have to F everyone you come across, have some self control
Ladies, please stop talking over each other 🤐😬😬
The mum is wrong she knew her daughter would of been jailed. He should not be in prison.
Taking big wood, that made me bend up laughing 😂
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The girl is the minor in this case, and if she is Asian she has brought shame on her family. Therefore, they will do everything to conceal the name and image.
with all this publicity is not concealed anymore. She just made things worse. Now everybody will know. They even know her name now.
Too late their name and location soon out...I bet.
Hypocrites! The Rochdale children were defiled by whom, I guess the usual suspect that like to do unto others but not unto themselves.
Exactly!!!! This is a culture that stresses purity, virginity, sex within marriage etc honour killings exemplify how serious they are about certain things. Also for her it’s really embarrassing that her mother knows she’s had sex. Who would his parents tell her mother?! They could have potentially put her in danger, (family angry etc) and now look, he’s the one now receiving the fulll consequences.
Are they just ignoring that the man broke the law in Dubai?
Yes but so did the indian girl
They both broke the rules.
Would you at that age know the fing rules of Dubai?
Neither the boy or the girl knew the rules. Whose responsibility was it to educate the young people of the rules? Hint: the parents
Why are you not blaming the bois mum who reported?
BW have immunity
Not the "big wood" 😂😂
Too black and African is the reason he was reported I reckon.
He's CARRIBEAN
Why are our people still going to these places?..
If this girl ever starts dating/engaged/married that surely isn't going to be a day of joy because mummy will have flash backs to what she's done.
The Lady in the Purple makes the most points on this one! Why should we stop ourselves travelling, we just need to understand and follow and respect other country laws. It’s that simple! And as a mother I do feel for this young man but also him and that girl are too fast! Sleeping together in his parents bed..he’s very bright and out of order! They should have just waited till they reached back in the Uk, that was their arrangement apparently! This is a real shame!
Facts!!!! Toooooo dyam bright!!! We spend so much time policing black girls, yet the boys get to do whatever. No self control, no discipline, he probably thought it was an achievement to boast about with his mates. Sometimes it’s ok to keep it in your pants, what if she then said it was grape?!?! If he was a black girl there would be no sympathy at all.
The mother of the girl has embarrassed her daughter internationally by trying to malice a black boy. It’s not going to change anything because the act has happened. Not sure what she was hoping to achieve with her actions
Unpopular opinion: young boys it's not everyday holiday romance, you were on vacation with your family and couldnt discipline yourself to not think about nyash.
Poor boy! I know the girl must be feeling it. Supposing she decides to marry the boy after the jail term! What would her mum do? It’s so awful what the mother did!
Malicious Mothers ruining poor black boys lives - same old story
She's done nothing black women don't to black men. Stop calling her names, she's a great mother. The boy is learning a lesson, he'll be back wise & careful.
Lammy has always been a wasteman. Just look who he surrounds himself with. But then again, he's "Labour" so....
As for the young boy, he did nothing wrong but this should be a lesson to stay with his own. Im not saying mistreat black women, but he (we) will never be accepted in certain groups so why venture.
Message to the black youth. Build good working / cultural/ business relationships with good people from all walks of life, but when it comes to personal relationships...stick to your own.
For once I agree with Sade. Black people should visit and invest in Africa. Dubai is all fakery. They don't even respect us. We will only be respected when we respect ourselves.
Man said stay with his own 😂 I’ve met one south Asian parents that were fine with me dating their daughter, in fact we were friends before and they encouraged us to date, it’s my parents that have the problem with me dating out
@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise exception my guy, not the rule! ✌🏿
Exactly. That's what black parents should be teaching their children. I wouldn't be surprised if this young man had said negative things about BW and only date non blacks. A devastating consequence, never the less.
Did you see him on question time get every answer wrong? He thinks Libya is next to Syria. He's a danger to us all and embarrassing. He is also that thick he thinks he's English.
UAE has an awful human rights records (most Emirati states do). We need to reject their marketing ploys and not go there. Horrid place. I hope this young man comes home soon.
Don't go to dubai & turkey.
Instead go to Pakistan and Iran
As a Black British guy who lived in the region for a decade I do think we need to educate ourselves on certain destinations before travelling even if that means having that awkward conversation with our young before we travel. It's very easy to have a lax attitude while being in this Western European bubble to how other parts of the world operate. Now having said that I do believe the mother of the 17 year old girl was being vindictive. I noticed she reported the case to the Dubai authorities after they had left Dubai. The possible reason for this could be if she had reported the issue while in Dubai then the 17 year old girl would've also been arrested because of pre-marital sex under the local islamic law. Depending how damning the actual text messages were I could only think this should have been a misdemeanor at best as both parties are not there. I can only hope the British government can intervene and get this boy home. In short we need to be mindful of our surroundings.
Hmmm
She should be in prison too
We love Dubai such beautiful peaceful city I feel safe walking on streets , no knife crime.no girls get raped and killed. my mum just bought a villa there . Im so excited we are moving spring 2025.
The boys parents were too interested in being cool parents they knew the girl was sneaking around with there son from what I read the lesson is don’t entertain other people’s children because what is fine for yours might not be fine for others he’s parents put him at risk simple the same way you entertain the lil girlfriends coming over to hang out stop allowing children because until your buying your own ish your a child to do adult things simple his parents ignored the law saw it as nothing as black parents of a black son they were careless you see what gyal can do
definitely police have to check this three idiots backgrounds.
Sounds to me FAFO 😂
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He could of got 20 years, he got lucky
David Lammy is a joker absolute joke
Ever since taking up That role he appears so meek and mild like hes lost his voice. All the noise he made on LBC when he was presenting and and was crtical of the opposition look at him now. Take that MP seat away from him now!
Would it have been legal in Jamaica?
Now look, running to the government for help 😂. The fact that this panel is defending wrong behaviour, he broke the law of the land simple.
When in rome do as the romans. When in Britain do as the british. When in africa do as the africans. The same goes for countries in the middle east . When in their countries eg the united emirates , learn their laws and obey them. Every country is not as soft as Britain.
Lammy is the biggest time waster - him don’t care - the only thing lammy cares about is his profile and money 😡 I pray the young man gets out soon ❤
Why should the mum reveal who she is…Do you hear yourselves! What to receive abuse…The irony!
The people who play Victim also play Vengeance
Yes she knew what she was doing. Protected her girl and made sure the boy goes to prison . Her girl consented,it was not rape! The action of the girls mother should be shamed .
It's always the male's fault. That's the American Caste System
Lame lammy can’t do jack because it’s against the law in Dubai if the Indian girl was there she would get locked up too….they broke the law… black the boys mother….
Lol david lammy dont give a flying f about nobody black
I do think the programme would run better with less profanity,i get it i am from south london but on a professional level ladies,keeping it real dont mean reaching those levels
Brilliant discussion but not the swearing - please keep it professional👍🏻
Please realise her photos.
Woman with the brown hat is the only one that is astute. Ninja wake up call women
Consensual sex with a minor? Being 18 makes you an adult, 17!years you are a minor. “Ignorance of the law is no excuse”. UAE (Dubai) is a Muslim nation, I’m not a citizen of that country but I would presume before taking a flight from UK to UAE you would have a talk with your family on consequences of not obeying laws in foreign countries.
Soooo, no empathy for this young man eh?? None as all?
@@bolasworld5425Honestly he should have known better! You can’t travel to places like Dubai and not understand or abide by their laws! This is the consequence and it’s a real shame!
Poor marcus. Only made a decision with his own brain that was going to affect his whole life with a girl that he chose to be with. How dare anyone hold him accountable for decisions that he makes. Its absurd. Free him now there are loads of underage girls to be with in england that wont report him. Free marcus now. All he did was sleep with someone who was underage its not like he committed any crimes🤬 heart goes out to the family who obviously didn't protect him, hope they enjoy the gofund me😊
You guys are all talking at the same time. I can't understand.
Leave sex for marriage
Tell the west that
Don't mind them!! Then we wonder why the welfare state is at breaking point. Kids sexualised too early, wanting to play "adults" until a baby is on the way.... suddenly the boy's education is important and "not ready to be a dad"... abortion? Adoption? Single mum??? Then we wonder why society is all messed up and these so called " aunties" normalising bad morals! 😮
More information has come out the mother lied to the police over there saying it wasn't consential. It was they were intimate on more than one occasion.
Rather than the mum accepting her daughter is active her contempt for the fact it was with a brother she saw red and took all her anger out on him.
Its evil and another reminder that BAME doesn't exist.
He will be alright lol
Y'all can still make ur point without being disrespectful. Soo unprofessional. Wait? Sorry its a podcast.. anyone can be giving their point of view
Black oeople Definately need to be careful when travelling to Dubai
You only need to be careful if you intend to break the law! Been to the ME multiple times and didn't get arrested.
David Lammy, COCONUT
I’ve seen a name, Mrs Davinder Kaur being spoken about as the girl’s mother who reported the young man to the police. I don’t know that’s correct. Don’t want to spread misinformation.
Then you shouldn't spread it if you're not sure and risk putting an innocent unrelated person in harm's way.
That's her. Davinder Kaur (Mother) and Pooja Kaur (Daughter).
Lets be real here....a lot of you on these comments are saying the boy broke dubia law. How many of us read about the laws of tge countries before travelling 🤔. Stop being hypocritical. The lesson here is better not to be intimate with anyone until marriage or at least you know their back ground.
Well, now everyone knows
Davinder kaur
Is she still on social media?