Love the channel, just move to the Andes in Peru from Texas and just ordered a ZFORCE for the area here . Wish you gents could throw one of those kits in
Really a nice SxS. The dyno tires are a good idea for comparing different machines too. Keep the variables as straight as possible. I like your tuner guy. He does a good safe tune.
Wholly cow, do I ever like this unit. Got to drive a sport 950. Was very impressed. I need to try the zforce 950 sport HO. And I wanna try the HO ex. I wanna be sure of my next unit.
Are those dyno tires the same overall diameter as the stock tires? I imagine if they're smaller that would mess with the configuration of the stock clutch setup
Have you guys thought about an E85 tune? Could gain a bit more with more aggressive timing….. just not sure what duty cycle the stock injectors run stock…. Just a thought 💭
@@RealTalkPowersports That would be fantastic. Usually aftermarket tunes are harder on fuel. It would be nice to be able to have a choice of when to be fuel efficient and when you simply want to have fun with your buddies.
I just did a top speed pull on a bone stock 950 trail after watching this. Me only at 190 pounds, 12psi tires,full windshield, full tank of fuel on a flat road was 77mph . I’m guessing part the slower speed was due to the bias plus having more roll resistance than those radial stags.That was fast enough on that 50” machine but yes more power would be good. How does the msc tune affect the warranty?
If I’m looking at the graph correctly, the stock run accelerated to top end faster than with the tune??? I see the tune kept it up after the midrange, but slowed it down from bottom to top?
I've seen these guys race the 950 trail and the 950 ho ex in stock form. The YT video shows the 950 trail pulling away from the 950 ho. Even with 5 hp less the trail version was a fair bit faster.
Thanks for the reply. Its so hard to decide between the 800 and 950 Trail for me. 80% of the time we just putt around, but for the winter its going to be ripping deep snow on ITP Cryptids. @@RealTalkPowersports
@@ryankennedy9414 FYI, I've already seen ads (can't remember where though) of dedicated aggressive winter tires for SxSs. I imagine that would be something worth looking into. It would definitely would be for me as I live on the Canadian East Coast. Edit: Found them! Here they are: Traxion Glacius Studdable Winter ATV/UTV Tire
Been waiting for this!
Me too lol
Finally got it dialed in
Thanks for responding. I live way up in Northern Maine. About a half hour to an hour to the Canadian border
Love the channel, just move to the Andes in Peru from Texas and just ordered a ZFORCE for the area here . Wish you gents could throw one of those kits in
Nice video! Awesome job 👏
Thanks brother
Awesome Video!
Glad you enjoyed it
That orange Zforce has my mame all over it! Good video bud
Thanks dad!!
I can hold you one lol
Really a nice SxS.
The dyno tires are a good idea for comparing different machines too.
Keep the variables as straight as possible.
I like your tuner guy. He does a good safe tune.
Yes sir I agree.. and yea Dave is a perfectionist and will not release a tune until it is absolutely the Best performing and safest it can possibly be
This is a fun unit to drive! Even better with the Tune
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Wholly cow, do I ever like this unit. Got to drive a sport 950. Was very impressed. I need to try the zforce 950 sport HO. And I wanna try the HO ex. I wanna be sure of my next unit.
I have a 959 ho ex. Great machine.
Msc stage 3 clutch installed.
Hey guys love your channel ! I just bought 1 of these machines. My question is with this new tune up do you still have the stock clutch set up in it ?
Yes this unit is bone stock
@@RealTalkPowersports sweet ! I just took delivery of this machine, haven’t gotten it dirty yet! Lol I’m definitely gonna get the ecm upgrade.
Would it pick up anymore with a stage 3 trail clutch kit installed too? It would be nice to see that as well! The tune and clutch together on the dyno
It would absolutely pick up more. Maby Blake can get us a video of it. Team Msc evu tune and clutch kit is a very powerful kit.
Awesome deal I'd like to get a clutch kit and tune for my xl1000
Thank ya sir... and Team MSC definitely can fix you up with the best..
teammscparts.com/products/team-msc-ecu-tune-stage-3-clutch-kit-combo?_pos=14&_sid=dbc29c273&_ss=r&variant=45454407893300
Get Dave working on my 2021 uforce 1000 tune lol where’s Joe and what about the new shop did I miss something there
Are those dyno tires the same overall diameter as the stock tires? I imagine if they're smaller that would mess with the configuration of the stock clutch setup
We have a few different sets of dyno tires to take care of the different stock tire sizes so that’s not an issue for us
Have you guys thought about an E85 tune? Could gain a bit more with more aggressive timing….. just not sure what duty cycle the stock injectors run stock…. Just a thought 💭
We do have a tune for VP C12 race fuel.
My only complaint with my g2 800 trail is the clutching. I just want smooth takeoff and acceleration.
Team MSC sure can dial that in for you with a clutch kit and tune
@@RealTalkPowersports
Not sure about the tune but the clutch kit would be good
Do you do tunes on other makes and models?
Yes sir! We have several tunes for most all manufacturers… they are on teammscparts.com
Is this also available in the DIY kit version? I like having the ability to switch it back to stock if needed.
Not at this exact moment but it should be sometime soon.
@@RealTalkPowersports That would be fantastic. Usually aftermarket tunes are harder on fuel. It would be nice to be able to have a choice of when to be fuel efficient and when you simply want to have fun with your buddies.
I just did a top speed pull on a bone stock 950 trail after watching this. Me only at 190 pounds, 12psi tires,full windshield, full tank of fuel on a flat road was 77mph . I’m guessing part the slower speed was due to the bias plus having more roll resistance than those radial stags.That was fast enough on that 50” machine but yes more power would be good. How does the msc tune affect the warranty?
I’ve never seen or heard of the MSC Tune effecting any warranty
Ok well nice work and thanks for the video. I’m definitely going to be getting one
How many mpg do you lose with the tune?
So with those "dyno tires" is the number higher or lower than it would be with stock tires. Aka what people will usually be using
If I’m looking at the graph correctly, the stock run accelerated to top end faster than with the tune??? I see the tune kept it up after the midrange, but slowed it down from bottom to top?
What kind of side mirrors fit on my zforce 950 sport 2023
Has anyone developed a turbo kit for these? I really want one but I’d also like some more power
Not yet..
Segway tunes coming?
Yes sir!! Dyno Tuning videos are in the works
looks good, how do the numbers compare to the 950 ho ex ? aka which one has better or higher power numbers ?
They are very close!!! Maybe I can arrange to put them on the dyno with same tires and see how they compare
@@RealTalkPowersports that would be nice. Stock tune on both first
I've seen these guys race the 950 trail and the 950 ho ex in stock form. The YT video shows the 950 trail pulling away from the 950 ho. Even with 5 hp less the trail version was a fair bit faster.
How much torque did you gain? And at what rpm?
Is this engine the same as the Gen 2 950 Trail model, or is that one lower output?
They are the same engine
Thanks for the reply. Its so hard to decide between the 800 and 950 Trail for me. 80% of the time we just putt around, but for the winter its going to be ripping deep snow on ITP Cryptids. @@RealTalkPowersports
@@ryankennedy9414 FYI, I've already seen ads (can't remember where though) of dedicated aggressive winter tires for SxSs. I imagine that would be something worth looking into. It would definitely would be for me as I live on the Canadian East Coast. Edit: Found them! Here they are: Traxion Glacius Studdable Winter ATV/UTV Tire
I just ordered a stage 3 clutch kit and ecu tune for my 2023 950 sport G2. What should I clock the clutch to when installing?
You will clock our Stage 3 Clutch to B1
If this guy ordered a tune for a 950 gen2 sport 2023 how do I order it
How did you order this tune Ben
@RealTalkPowersports how do I order a tune for a 2023 zforce 950 gen2 sport they sahhy you don't h
How does it effect mpg?
Is there an aftermarket air filter yet?
not YET..
Mph indicated vs speedo?
So for 200$ you get 4 hp?
Im almost sold on buying a CFMOTO CForce1000 or ZForce 950. Almost....
What’s left to give you the confidence to go for it
I just bought the ZForce 950 sport for the money you can’t go wrong.
I have this exact model and its been amazing. Bought back in May.
If they would just make a 4 seater
They have a 4 seater
She stretched her legs in hi
Nice video. Not really worth doing for me.
You like to hear yourself talk? Common man, get on with it.
They do not have a tune for this machine disappointing