The Tragic Story of Lemonhope from Adventure Time
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2023
- Join Lemonhope on an epic Adventure Time journey as he battles between freedom and responsibility. Explore his incredible story, vivid dreams, and the true meaning of heroism. Dive into the depths of his character and the lessons learned along the way. Experience this captivating two-part saga set in the Land of Ooo!
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Lemonhope was so chill, PB was like “so you wanna stay?” And he was all like “nah I’m good, I’m tryna be free. I f with y’all tho” and then dipped lmao
Bros so real for that
I always found it weird that he didn't seem to care that his people were just gone and he would likely never see them again but I guess thats just part of his character, Lemonhope would rather not care what others are doing he only came back to help them out of guilt.
Still sad to think about though.
Agreed. I think it does a great job at showing a totally new perspective on what it means to be a hero. Not everybody is like Finn, always willing to do good, and that's ok
I mean, he was a kid. Kinda difficult to put that burden on a kid and expect them to truly understand.
Strangely, a lot more of us are like him than we would like to believe. It's sort of in human nature to be selfish, and despite him not being human, that selfishness is portrayed in a very human way. People who get out of places like that, e.g. an extreme example like north Korea or some other oppressive country, or a toxic family, try to build as good of a life for themselves wherever they are knowing just how difficult it would be to try and help everyone back home. Ir they create a barrier arou d it in their mind that leads to that "uncaring" attitude, because survivors guilt is crushing. He was also being abused by so many people. Having been sheltered, he needed to experience life before he could worry about other people. Kinda like healing before you can address certain traumas. People are selfish, that's just how we are. You can't convince me anyone has never been selfish in that way, where you are helped by someone and don't feel any owing-ness to them until you use that help ro the point you can circle back. Think about your teachers, how they helped you and you chalked it up to it being their job. They get thanked when people come back, but not when they first leave.
Lemon Hope saw the failure of the kingdom leaders in OOO and wanted nothing to do with that. Also it's a massive burden to place on a child to save his people and run a kingdom, which he has idea how to successfully run one.
@@fungustheclown666Think if Harriet Tubman just got her freedman and never freed others using the Underground Railroad? That’s very selfish. You have to save and be loyal to your people.
I'd say lemonhope is the classic hero, and finn represents a bit more of a modern approach to heros in storytelling. Hope's got a kind of odyssean feel to him in my mind
I 100% agree. I would say Finn's hero story is less than 1% of people. The Lemonhope story sheds a light on the more realistic approach someone would take
Lemonhope is 100% the reluctant hero archetype, which at this point is more common than the classic hero archetype.
@@FullchristainnameWhat you refer to as the “classic hero archetype” is actually the modern hero archetype.
Ancient stories usually involve very down to earth heros. Heros who are reluctant and resistant to doing good. And heros who usually die in tragedy.
Modern heroes strive for good off rip. And their death is usually one of sacrifice and glory
I remember feeling like these episodes kind of dragged on and felt pretty exhausting to get through the first time i watched- but i can now appreciate the themes it’s going for and the adventure narrative it tells. I still wonder if it could have been executed in a bit of a more exciting way but I really admire the fact that Adventure Time was always willing to try something new when it came to storytelling
Definitely feel where you're coming from. These episodes were a lot different than most, but I just love the fact that it's so unique and tells his story in such a unique way.
Yeah whenever I rewatch I skip them
@cocococop1316Why would you think preaching like a schizo would work on random videos about cartoons?
Yeah whenever I saw these i would always skip them. It just never fully caught my attention
They’re thematically interesting episodes betrayed by bad writing. Great for analysis, not for viewing
PB: “Hey what’s your name”
LH: “My name is Badlemonnohope but you can call me Lemon Hope” 😭kills me every time
😂😂😂
I always felt flannel was pb in disguise and that's why they waited until lemonhope almost died before rescuing him, to show him the reality of his own decision instead of persuading him.
Yeah I agree. Especially because we never see flannel again
@@paxw37 & the fact that we see pb dress up as finn's dad in the tower to help him process his emotions in her own kind of manipulative-y kind of sweet way
Bro same here because when Flannel said all the political stuff I was wondering if that was pb
It was also officially spelled phlanel with a P, so they both have the same initials. And Boxingday and Bubblegum have the same number of letters and syllables!
the story of lemonhope part 2 made me spiral into this weird existential depression when I finally sat down watched through the series for the first time. Something about seeing the candy kingdom in disrepair and the feeling of coming back to a completely empty home messed me up lmfao
Yeah these episodes are so dark, but I can't help but love them
I feel like the song didn't help either making it more sad and dark
Gotta say that he has a dark and sad ending. living for so long that he has the entire world all to himself because everyone else has died. he wanders an empty and silent planet. pretty much arriving to a party long after everyone has gone home. no birds, no bugs, no people, it's all just himself. he's all alone now, waiting for when he dies too.
I wasn't expecting something like this from such a goofy and fun show.
Right? These episodes were so dark. But kind of soothing in a weird way. He didn't seem bothered by the lack of people in the land of Ooo. He almost seemed happy, when he finally laid to rest
The world isn't empty, the last scene takes place during the series finale 1000 years later. There are still people here.
@@gamerstheater1187 That is true, but the people that made Lemonhope into what he is are all long gone. And yet, as he lays down for the last time, in the place that he was born in and was abused in for most of his childhood, he smiled…
Lemonhope lived a full life, fuller than any of us probably ever will. He learned what it truly means to be free, and he lived the freest life possible…
@@gamerstheater1187Plus princess bubblegum and Marceline are still immortal and I'm assuming Bonnie's family is immortal to since they were still young looking
I never got that. He seemed relatively happy with his life, and he smiled before he died. He was satisfied with the life he lived, and the freedom he experienced.
Adventure time managed to touch so many different aspects of life that you don't really notice as a child, but re-watching it now, it's truly something wonderful.
Love your videos, man!
Right! It was so fun to watch as a kid. And is still so fun to watch as I grow up! Thank you!!!
I loved when adventure time got deep into human psyche and topics that required nuance. Like yesss give us that hard-hitting emotional turmoil and trauma 🙌🏻
Same 😂. One of my favorite episodes ever is Breezy. So good
Sounds less like him being selfish and more like others giving him survivors guilt.
Yeah that is a horrible burden to place on a child and Princess Bubblegum should clean up her own mess, she created Lemongrab who in turn essentially ran the OOO version of North Korea
Man every time I see the scene of him coming home when he's old only for everyone and everything to be gone along with that song in the background makes me tear up a bit. At least he seemed at peace despite the circumstances.
Same, it also gets me every time. And I agree, I think it's one of the only times, or the only time, he smiles
The ending has left me with a choking heartache. I don't know what about it makes me feel this way.
Perhaps it is that he comes back to the room that was waiting for him all this time ( and was very well kept, indicating that the lemonfolk had been maintaining it in good shape for a LONG time ), or maybe it's the fact that it happens in the future where pretty much everything we know from this show is gone. ( at least from what we know from watching the show chronogically ).
Kinda makes me wonder if our civilisation will ever go this barren, and whether or not some parts of it will seem as if they were frozen in place, like Lemonhope's room.
Also, the trauma that he has gone through, and the fact that it was guilt that motivated him to return to help. Later, he was finally able to come back and be at peace when everyone was gone - wothout anyone else, he didn't have to feel guilty and responsible anymore.
I also just realized that his trauma was also kinda holding him back from staying, as he feared any lack of freedom. Responsibility and staying with others also means sacrificing a piece of one's freedom, which Lemonhope was too traumatized to do. He preferred to stay free, at the cost of dying alone
I never knew how much biblical connections the story of Lemohope has. Being the chosen one to free his people from a tyrant like Moses, He escapes from his destiny like Jonah, Plays the lyre/harp like King David, and He also kills a gluttonous king like Ehud.
Im not sure I would call it a Biblical connection since the book you speak of is a compilation (including plagarism) of other stories. Its more of a story filled with *ancient themes* and human motifs.
Oh wow I need to maybe watch adventure time 😂 wtf I didn’t know it was so philosophical
@@Other-AllOfTheAbove oh wow! oh wow! 🙄
@@Other-AllOfTheAbove in the 2020s making allusions to the Bible is no longer making allusions to the Bible because that’s oppressive!!
@@lucre113 I know! Its shocking to pay attention to history books and world mythology. They didn't have copyrights back in the day,, but oh boy would that be some case to take.
Nice work... Lemonhope's story is definitely philosophical. Adventure time in general is highly Philosophical. Lemonhope had an existential crisis until he chose freedom. I can relate with Lemonhope. We have our own responsibilities but sometimes we really choose to be happy with our freedoms but guilt is sometimes what makes us responsible.
Thank you! Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself!
"Sometimes, we have to take responsibility for our own happiness."
He was my favorite character. He was more like Lemongrab than he wanted to be, with even worse trauma. The depiction of how parental abuse affected him is very accurate and I can understand his wanting to run away from that.
Once I saw the ending, where he came back for the final time and I realized what just happened, I ugly cried.
Same. Such a touching episode for a kids show
His story is not a tragedy, but a classic well articulated hero's journey tale. Tragedy would have been if didnt manage to find himself and take on his responsibilities.
Well though he didn’t want to be a hero he did want to be an explorer and he did save his people and now he is free to be an adventurer
This show honestly is really deep in its analysis and of the complexity of child psychology.
It really is
A lot of appreciation towards your work man. Adventure Time delves into a lot of significant moral topics in creative ways and it's a pleasure to see someone analyse them like that. Keep it up
Ty!!
This was a pretty heavy episode to drop in a kid's cartoon
I just finished this episode and didn’t realize what was happening at first with the cut to years later. It really hit me when I realized that.
Stories that go out of their way to show the effects of the passage of time have a really powerful effect on me for some reason. All of these characters are likely completely gone and forgotten by the Land of Ooo in this cut forward. It makes me appreciate every episode so much more when a story gives that kind of setting.
It’s really easy to get lost in just the present time of a story. You hardly ever think about things like historical implications or what the world will be like years after these people have passed away. Not many stories show that kind of thing but when it’s done correctly it’s a real treat.
I haven’t finished AT yet so obviously I don’t know how each character’s story ends, but seeing this really makes me curious about how it will.
Yeah I love the way Adventure Time story tells. You're going to love Adventure Time
Lemon hope gives me hope
But imagine being able to feel No responsibility
He was truly free
This right here,this was the true ending to the show in my opinion. I remember even first viewing this episode as a kid and being convinced that's how it all really ends.
I liked the Lemonhope story. I think you laid out the theme nicely.
This is irrelevant to the video but I've heard a lot of speculation about what happened in the Candy Kingdom 1000+ but I have my own theory. Maybe someone's said it before, Idk, but we wonder what happened that the Kingdom was abandoned.
In the last episode, during the intro, when we see the Candy Kingdom, there are these arcs w a "G" in them, somewhat similar to the Gumbald design. Now, seconds later, we see Gibbon at the top of the tower. So, many ppl think its G for Gibbon or Gumbald but I have a 3rd theory. So, during BMOs song, we get a special look at Golbs demons at the Candy Kingdom but we also get a special look at 2 forgotten characters. I believe the G stands for Goliad. Why show Stormo and Goliad fighting when we havent seen them since the ep that event occurred?
So, in the Lemonhope story, PBs song, to support this, when you see the candy streets, on the left, theres a pink sign that sorta looks like a lollipop- or, Goliads eye stalk. I strongly believe Goliad was released from the conflict w Stormo, in a similar manner to how Uncle Gumbald returned- off screen, during Elements.
That is pretty interesting. I always thought them showing Goliad and Stormo was just a way of showing them off in the final episode. But you're right, surely at some point, they had to have been interrupted
@@paxw37 I think so- it would explain the presence of the Prizeball Guardian, why its seeking Candy citizens and the pink handed incarcerated figure in the last ep intro. To protect the citizens, they're collected and induced to sleep. Otherwise, Goliad would mind control them- as Goliad probably has to others by this point.
Another power house would be awakening again, by the time 1K begins- I've heard theories about why much of future Ooo is covered in ice, mostly related to Orgalorg Ice King. My favorite theory suggests he returned to his IK ways of stealing princess as he outlived and grieved Turtle Princess. However, Gibbon's possession of the crystal eye suggests something far more malign. But I have a simple speculation about the expansion of Ice Kingdom- Patience St. Pym.
She assuredly avoided many of the events as a super charged, pure ice elemental. Theres apparently some kind of elemental conflict arising once more in Ooos future and I'm certain Patience had something to do w it.
But as for Goliad, Gibbon is probably something like a figure head or a "high priest", or at the least, a general, who Carrie's out Goliads commands. Obviously, Gibbon has something against the pup descendants and is afraid of their power, so he extinguishes their powers. But, it's also obvious that the pup descendants are a force in Ooos future. Goliad may endorse this after recalling her interactions w Jake- Goliad was visibly frightened by Jake, when he was yelling at the candy kids. And the pup descendants are powerful.
Ugh, I end these commentaries like this often but we need AT 1k lol
Adventure time had no business being so deep 🫤
Agreed. But I also love that they do.
Kind of disappointed that we didn't see any connection or side stories on LemonHope because I was was waiting for something on DistantLands like a small hint on him there.
Agreed
I remember these Ep.s, just a lil boy who wanted to be free and then at the finish comes back home to end his story where it started.
So many feels it leaves you with, just so very many of them.
Of all the Adventure Time stories, this stuck with me the most. I randomly watched the episode when I turned on the cable TV for some background noise while I was cooking. The theme was really drawing my attention, I guess you could say it struck a chord in me.
😂😂 good one. But yeah I love this episode too. I think it dives into deeper concepts and I love those types of episodes
Anyone else thought that old man was just PB In disguise in order to teach lemonhope how to be a hero
This episode was a very sweet homage to the legendary movie Brazil.
Im watching through all of Adventure Time for my first time rn. I just saw these episodes and dude theyve really stuck with me. I've rewatched them a couple of times now and its just so good. The writing for Adventure Time is truly incredible.
Couldn't agree more. These episodes just hit a certain way that not many other shows can hit. Especially a cartoon
Love that I've kept watching this into adulthood and discovering the lessons and themes over time
Can we just agree that the toilets in the lemon kingdom just a torture device, i mean jeez that looks like it would hurt to sit on. 0:32
It's a juicer
Nice analysis, but I'm still clinging to the idea that Princess Bubblegum would rather harass Lemonhope for the rest of his life to follow through on her plan rather than admit it failed, thus she created that cloud machine and that new getup.
You know, because she is the ultimate narcists in modern TV who's crimes second only to Reagan
Thank you! Maybe she is still alive 1000 years later then... 👀
@@paxw37 Actually I think that she is still a live. If you paid close attention to the intro to Come Along with Me, you can see who I think is Marceline scouring the ruins of the Ice Kingdom looking for something. And if you look for a particular prison wall on the right, you can see someone stuck behind a set of bars. I'm thinking that someone captured PB at some point and Marcy has been trying to find her ever since
I remember hearing a theory that Boxingday might not _just_ be Bubblegum in disguise, but also in an alter ego persona not too dissimilar from Finn’s Davey, since he/she has a similar mustache to Davey.
3:43 "Lemonhope finds that sweetspot between Freedom and Dude" ah yes the two choices in life
The downside to freedom is its emptiness and and lack of attachment.
I really think Lemonhope way of leaving is the best way to live.
I mean, I guess it makes sense that he didn’t want to rule over his people, he was just a kid. After he helped his people, he felt free to explore on his own, free from his responsibilities, I can tell his freedom was very important to him.
Finally somebody talked about lemonhope
I cant watch the scene where PB is singing and lemonhope goes to sleep at the end... that shit makes me cry like a bitchh
Of all the stuff in that episode its the MUSIC at the end of it really hits home So beautiful and depressingly haunting all in a bundle of emotions
When I first watched these episodes, I was convinced Boxingday was Princess Bubblegum in disguise, trying to get through to Lemonhope using a different, albeit it more manipulative tactic. On reflection though, I wonder if this could have been a relative of hers from the mothergum, like Neddy. After all, there were a lot of other faces in that gum, and PB did say that she missed the company. Maybe she kept in touch with some of the others who struck out on their own
the feeling of returning home is so nice to see , no more haunting night were same burden feelings
I cant measure how much I cried when I first saw that song in the end of the episode
is it just me or does lemonhope share a weirdly vague resemblance to idk, gabriel from the bible??
Lemongrab and the lemon people are my favorite kingdom. Lemonhope is my hero.
Nah while I appreciate where you're going for the problem is that The message only works if you ignore the victim blaming gas lighting that is going on here.
When you shred away the obfuscation it becomes clear that this is just a leisure activity on bubble gums part. She's literally using hope as a pawn to construct a narrative of a hero overcoming the opressor and then becoming the benevolent ruler.
Introspective dreams have been shown in the series to have two sources either someone with magic or the cosmic owl. The problem is because if the dreams are honestly introspective the cosmic owl would be somewhere in them and they only start after he gets taken by bubble gum. They are clearly artificially created by her in an effort to guilt him into doing what she wants which is really messed up. She choose to make fake peace treaties and leave Lemongrab broken just like she chose to use a child for her own amusement.
I do agree with you. I think PB isn't a great person, and she obviously forced her believes onto him, even though that's not something he wanted. But the Cosmic Owl actually had the choice to enter one of those dreams Lemonhope had. We see that in the episode "Hoots" when the Cosmic Owl goes dream searching for the bird woman, he swipes by Lemonhope's chain dream that he had. But, these still could be Lemonhope's own dreams, but they are caused by the pressure that he feels from PB and that's not right, which I do agree with.
@@paxw37 The thing is I believe the dreams are artificial as are clearly tailored To be overt with their messaging were most other prophetic dreams worth more abstract and were influenceable Not to mention you only get one repeating prophetic dream instead of multiple different ones
@@emeraldpichu1 Cosmic owl is in prophetic dreams not introspective.
@@teamacio9043 That’s a distinction without a difference the dreams are meant to teach you some thing like with Jake to accept death or for Finn to not be a creep.
@@emeraldpichu1 its a pretty big difference, prophetic dreams mean they'll come true and have meaning/relation to the outside world that a normal dream cant have. introspective dreams are just dreams
To me, it never made sense how they saddled him with the duty of freeing the castle. If the Proncess and him wanted to play interventionism, they should have done it themselves.
I love how this guy talks like fin
0:30 The lemon citizen when they use the toilet-> 🍋🧃
Is no one gonna mention how future lemon hope has balls 💀💀
you made me rethink my oppinon on the Adventure Time, now i'll certainly give it a second try!
Such a good show! Trust me
It's funny how Lemongrab and Lemonhope are two sides of the same coin. Lemongrab was one of Princess Bubblegum's very first mistakes. He's sour in a kingdom full of sweet. He's the only one of Bubblegum's creations that does not need to be coddled and cared for like a small child. He's a "mistake" because the only person he can tolerate is himself and finds things others find repulsive to be acceptable.
Lemonhope is a sweet, relatively normal and talented lemon person who makes music and is considered a freak by Lemongrab the same way that Princess Bubblegum considered Lemongrab to be an abomination.
The real tragedy is for the lemon people. Take Lemongrab 2's final words:
"Lemon brothers! Stop! Stop and LISTEN! It has cost me much, but I have learned: Lemon need not squeeze Lemon to survive. Lemonhope, go forth! Grow strong and return for us!"
Lemongrab 2 only learned to be selfless because he's always had a companion in the original Lemongrab. He's compassionate because he's never been alone. The original Lemongrab can't change and, more importantly, _doesn't want_ to change. He's always been selfish and always will be selfish.
The lemon people poured their hopes into Lemonhope and defied their tyrannical ruler based on the hope that Lemonhope would one day return to free his people. But Lemonhope never had any interest in repaying that debt. His only goal is the freedom to make his own choices. He has no interest in ruling, as much as PB and Finn try to steer him in that direction.
Lemonhope does eventually return and defeat the tyrannical Lemongrab, but leaves soon after and is gone for well over 1000 years. By the time he returns, the Candy Kingdom is in ruins and the Earldom of Lemongrab stands empty. The lemon people were not saved. The Earldom never gets their benevolent ruler, as Lemongrab 3 is not as tyrannical as his predecessor but is in no way a selfless leader as Princess Bubblegum had intended Lemonhope to become.
So here is what i think happensles with the lich. In dnd you can become a lich if you make some type of a ritualistic chananigans. Whathever The Lich did had something to do with the bomb so he gained imortality and great power.
Lemonhope part 1 and 2 are my favorite AT episodes, they hit specially hard for me for some reason
Love the video! Keep it up!
Thank you!!
Selfless=acting without regard to self, selfish=acting with only regard to self. Hope that helps
Thank you. Yeah I totally messed up and realized that right after I posted it
I really wish these episodes didn’t throw in the weird Finn stuff into them, because the lemon hope stuff is really good
I swear this whole kid's story was a mindfuck
What about "Kitten" Gunther's magical cat child? After all considering he's orgalorg and we know he's existed before there was time or anything at all.
Thus this child would probably still exist in Ooo's distant future, makes you think of the possibilities with that.
I think you meant selfish my guy. It's an easy mistake to make, the two words have no business being that similar. But selfless and selfish are about as opposite as two sides of a coin.
Yup, haha I realized that right when I uploaded it
yOOO glad I'm catchin this early on, your vids own dude
Thank you bro I really appreciate it!
Hey did you know you have the vocabulary of the show and it's just amazing
Haha, thank you!
Red doors also symbolize protection and the blood of Christ from Passover. Once you step through the red door you are walking into "Holy Ground".
The fact that he tries to peek on the other side before answering is beautiful.
I love that you talk like someone from the show in this video
Ty!!
Phlannel Boxingday has the same amount of letters as Princess Bubblegum… is pink… I don’t know what this means yet tho… (I know that’s not how to spell Flannel… but it is how they spell it in the voice credits….)
He gets the same lesson… but from a male form of gum? It is possible there are other Gum peeps…
I never put that together. That they both have the same amount of letters in their names. So interesting. I think you might be onto something here...
Lemongrab...Leningrad...oooohhhhhh....
He was selfish felt guilty and did what he was supposed to in the end and that’s all that matters
this is my favorite character
I think you need to look up what "tragic" means. Because his story is more inspiring than sad.
Feels like a parallel
Great video bro
Thank you so much!!!
I love how the whole script is in Finn's dialect.😂 awesome video
Thank you!!
lemonhopes story was so good 8 year old me literally cried
Great video👍
Ty!!!
Lemonhopes suit that had balls on it was hilarious
😂😂
Lemon goat 🐐
Yeah. Freedom is a choice ❤
We need to get this guy to 10k subs
🙏
Speaking of heavy load that lemon juicer toilet in the beginning makes me feel uneasy.
No one seems to notice that Boxingday is another gum person
He’s Lemonhope because he’s a lemon of a hope
As in, a car you throw money at that never stops being a pile of junk kind of lemon
“I want both cupcakes!”
I wonder what the dead world looks like at the end there
7 year old me had no fucking clue what was going on in that episode lol
You're still talking about Adventure Time? Ok. Great vid. Subbed. Thanks. ❤
Thank you so much!!!
I dont remember liking this storyarc,but the ending shock me..
How did the ship get into the desert though???
My favorite theory on this is that Phlanal BoxingDay is really princess bubblegum. PB -> PB
The way you talk reminds me of Finn and Jakes way of talking in the show.
@2:17 looks like the fool from tarot
I think lemonhope is a metaphore of cocaine
His story brought me disappointment and sadness. Love it all 💯, but yea 😢
What’s the acoustic guitar song?
@2:08 oh man I forgot all this happened....Also what happened to the candy kingdom?
I remember bubble gum put her people in a mobile gumball guardian..but why?
Edit: *looks at your other videos*... those were some good ideas man.
Haha 😂
You sound like an adventure time character (compliment)
instantly thrown off by you saying "selfless" jerk instead of "selfish"
Yeah lol, I noticed that right when I uploaded it 😂
Bro got his harp destroyed like 4 times in 2 mins 😂
😂😂
Did lemonhope return home long after fin and jake passed away?
Yes. Finn died around 80? Jake died long before that. By the time Finn was 30 Jake was dead. Lemonhope is shown 1000 years after all that.
The dude who saved lemonhope was bubblegum...bubblegum can speak German and that guy also spoke German also they're both pink ...I'm pretty sure there are other clues I forgot