Toyota's NEW Mini LandCruiser is a Suzuki Jimny Killer
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2023
- Did you know Toyota is developing a LandCruiser Mini to DESTROY the Suzuki Jimny?
That's right, Toyota - famed for their off-roaders like the Land Cruiser 300 Series and Land Cruiser 70 Series, have seen just how popular the Suzuki Jimny offroader is and they want a piece of that lucrative, money making pie! Here's everything you need to know about the all new LandCruiser Mini!
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Usa dealers will increase this great car to 50k, where most can't afford
There is no way Toyota delivers this for less than 40k. The Jimny has nothing to worry about.
Yeah but the jimny is like 35k from dealers now days...
The new Chr tops at around 62k, so I would expect the new baby cruiser to be similarly expensive.
@@Citsym8 Yeah, over priced for what they are, but they keep selling. I don't think this new Toyota and Jimny will really be competitors.
Jimny is like poor man's jeep Wrangler, which has proper front and rear solid axles , which Toyota does not.
Will be 50k by the time scalpers get there hands on it
Long time 4th gen owner here . There are a lot of areas the Jimny could be improved . But nothing can touch the jimnys charm
Agree on this. It's perfectly imperfect.
If Suzuki with years of experience still have these improvements to make them imagine the issues Toyota will have considering they don't have any experience in compact 4X4's
@@craigsparks1442 well. Toyota is still producing lc76 and lc79 series which are solid axles. Which the Jimny's charm lies on. Toyota has the engineering to do it but they won't compete with the Jimny as it will surely kill off Suzuki as a brand. It is a Jap thing perhaps. They keeping the competition alive as it will attract scrutiny (due to monopoly?) .
@@craigsparks1442 3 door Rav 4?
@@nivs123 you mean a 2 litre engine 3 door Rav 4? Far from anything like a Jimny and nowhere near as capable, Toyota teamed up with Suzuki because they don't have small vehicle technology capabilities
My wife and I slept in the Jimny for the first time last weekend. Just dropped the seats and put two pieces of 120mm thick foam down from the steering wheel to the back door. While driving they both fit in the back with the rear seats dropped with room for 3 big boxes on top.Felt just like a double bed, very comfy. I slept passenger side because I am 180cm and was fine. Wife slept passenger side and she is 167cm.
All our gear we stowed under the car in 3 waterproof 40 litre boxes.
No roof basket needed. Doing it again this weekend. Only took 40 seconds to set up.
Hi...
Dude, what? You guys slept on 9.5 inches of foam in your Jimny? How did you bring that into you car? It would be huge and not foldable, since you said double 120mm of foam.
I'm genuinely curious and flabbergasted, cheers!
Pretty doubtful. The Jimny has areas it can be improved over, but for the price point, capabilities and overall charm it's incredibly hard to beat. I've got mine on order and cannot wait
There's a big gap from the jimny to say a jeep. This would fit in there real nice, I don't really see it as a jimny killer though, it's a step up.
I'd like to know where you can get a jimny for $27k...they were $39k when I enquired...that's if you wait a year, or $43k if you wanted the available demo.
Here it's (jimny) like €35k new, and only available as a van with no backseats, so guess that Toyota would be like €45k.
Where i am right now, the jimnys are being sold around $18k and i thought it was overpriced lol
I was quoted 37k drive-away for a manual. Sorry Suzuki, not paying 40k for. 25k car. ;)
In Australia, the Jimmy has gone up stupidly in price. It was once about $28K drive away.. now it’s about $37K, and that’s for a “Lite” which has less equipment. If Toyota wants to torpedo Suzuki, they need to get in at $35K. But they won’t, because Toyota has shares in Suzuki - 4.9%
I own a 4th gen Jimny, and if Toyota release a similar sized wagon with a decent power train it will be a no brainer to swap over to. I doubt they'll be able to compete close to the same price point however
I own the older model of the Jimny and I can simly say,it is the best car I ever had.It is 23 yers old and never ever had any problem with it.Even if it keeps running here on the icy and snowy ruged narrow roads on the Alps, I want to buy the new one with 5 doors. .....but... this model will not be available for the Eu market ! Cannot express my disapponintment. So now I am waiting for the new mini land crusier,hoping it will be available over here !
Suzuki has a big following in Australia as a car for Motorhome to tow behind so they have a car to site see once set-up in stead of having to pack up to drive motorhome to shops or tourist sites. There is a cue to get them specifically for this reason.
What all the car reviewers forget is most people are looking for price point, whats the best thing i can get for my money, not what is the best performance i can get in this car class. Same with for example the isuzu mux 4wd starting at 61k drive away vs the ford everest sport which is 81k drive away and thats only the mid range everest... id rather not spend the extra on stuff i dont need.
No car is perfect, that being said Jimny is just too good, I don't think any car in the same segment can beat Jimny. I already have 5 door here in India for year now and it's equally capable as 3 door in offroad and better in so many other ways. When i see it in the videos, the car always seem to look disproportionate in length to breadth ratio but i see it in person and it's definitely not. I'm loving it so much
the jimny already exists so there's no need to reinvent the wheel. i'd prefer if they built a yaris-cross sized offroader that's monocoque and have 4-wheel independent suspension like pajero, but smaller. kinda like a crosstrek but with good approach angle. crosstrek has ridiculously bad approach angle
I have high hopes for Toyota's Landcruiser mini. I hope it doesn't look like the photos I have seen. I do hope that it will be about 174 inches long, 72 inches wide, 66 inches long, have 9 inches of ground clearance, a 108 inch wheelbase, weigh less than 3,500 pounds, be powered by Toyota's own 2.5 litre engine that makes about 185 horsepower, uses an 8 speed automatic but could come with a 6 speed manual, could get a combined fuel economy of 28 mpg (26/33). Those are reasonable numbers in today's world. As far as exterior design goes, how about combining some G Wagon front and Range Rover rear?
And cup holders….lots of cup holders 👍
Inches?
They absolutely should be bringing back the short wheel base vehicles. I miss the shorty patrol and landcruiser and think the market for cars is far worse off without them.
Love the idea but even if Toyota release it in 2024 there is going to be the standard Toyota 2 year wait. I know two people who didn’t buy Corolla Crosses due to the ridiculous wait times.
I hope they hit the mark on this! The point of the smaller 4wd is to keep it cheerful! Toyota are very good cars but I don’t know about cheerful..
That thing is huge compared to the jimny!
If it shares anything with the hilux it will drive like crap.
Believe it when it's actually here, and available.
Hey Matt, If $5k or so more, I'd still buy the LC mini. The 2.7 ltr petrol engine used in petrol Hilux and also made in Thailand.. That would be a great motor. 122kw & 245nM
New year is coming, and there will be new hope !!! I will pray for this new mini Toyota land hopper that based on the Suzuki Jimmy come into fruition !!!
I'm interested in what type of body chassis they're using especially with that price. A ladder frame isn't cheap and some news saying it's might be a unibody. I wonder if it's a hybrid body chasis (partial ladder frame on unibody), like the 7 seat Daihatsu Terios also called Toyota Rush, considering Toyota had own most of Daihatsu ownership stock.
Where the hell are you finding a Jimny for under $30k?
That’s what I want to know
I hope it will have solid axles like the jimny
Its in another class of car mate, both in price and application
I live in the U.S.A. I hope this comes with full time 4WD or AWD. I also hope it comes with a 2.5 Liter gas engine with 2 electr 5:36 ic motors. If so, I want one !
Luka Doncic doing car reviews in the off season? 😂
Please, not even Suzuki can kill the Jimny.
Where are you getting these jimny's for under 30k?
I was just at a dealer that was asking 40k for an ex demo if and when one becomes available, with no new supply for over year and used private sales even higher.
Five minutes of bla bla delivering five seconds of information. This is the pure beauty of youtube.
Well, the actual competitor for this is more the GWM Tank 300 and in the US the Ford Bronco. As obscure as that sounds, they are a similar size, similar engines and similarly priced.
Suzuki in the only compact 4wd with solid front Axel, best for flex
Jimny has nothing to fear as Toyota and Suzuki do these sorts of things together and this could well have so much in shared technology with the Jimny
ill be the first to admit I am compromised as all hell when it comes to the Jimny, my girlfriend was looking for a Terios about 2 years ago and bought a Jimny instead and now I own two of the dam things lol a 2000 3rd gen and a 2007 both manuals(she still has hers, an 09 automatic), and its true...driving around normally on my bad roads the car skips all over the place so it takes focus to keep it tracking straight and to live with one as an only car does take some dedication (i also own a rav4 which makes this easier) but that aside one thing that a lot of these manufacturers always seem to miss is the community behind the cars, the Jimny has a massive following and aftermarket part support for all generations of Jimny minus the 1st gen
also the Jimny being dirt simple also lends it self well to being modded, which makes any old run of the mill Jimny... your Jimny and that again lends itself well to community as people come together to talk about what mods they run, what fixes they have had to do and what adventures they been on
and lets not forget that Toyota did have a competitor for the Jimny before in the form of the Daihatsu Terios/Toyota Rush and that never really went anywhere
They should just re release the bj70 or bj73 series again. It would go gang busters
We always refer to the Suzuki Jimny, but with the dimensions and engines announced, it is more to be compared to the Suzuki Grand Vitara. If so, I'm buying, I miss her.😀
Suzuki Grand vitara is the rebadged Toyota Urban Cruiser.
I was referring to the +/- 2006 model and beyond, with the rear door wheel.
I loved the FJ cruiser. This appears to be a worthy successor to it.
With its dimensions and price, Jimny has nothing to worry about.
At the price points, and we currently own a 2023 Jimny, I would buy the Toyota and keep my Jimny. It’s like I have more than one motorcycle. Different tools for different jobs.
Try $40k plus for a Jimny. In NSW anyway. Cheapest I can find on car sales second hand is $33k. Search done from 2020 onwards.
A mini Land Cruiser would be a huge seller in the U.K. as long as it’s a plug in hybrid to overcome our dumb emissions standards.
The only problem I have with Jimny is the $40k price as the $28k advertised is a massive scam. I went and got a 10YO Prado. Do love the colours but.
Yes, I have been shopping recently and found like you, the adverticement for $28k a JOKE. I decided to look at Tank 300, but if Landcruiser Mini comes in around the same price as Tank 300, I would buy Toyota ahead of Tank. Jimny has been priced out of competition ($AUD 40K) and is inferior to Tank and Toyopta
The Tank might be a future classic. People scoffed at Toyota and Nissan in the 70s. 🤔
@@bendgeddes The Tank 300 lifts it's rear wheels when you hard brake, I don't think it's better than a Jimny lol.
I wonder if they would be available in the USA at some point. It would be great if they were. Suzuki pulled out of the US market years ago.
Unfortunately yes they did I had a Grand Viagra that I loved! Never had any problems and it made it to 176000 miles!
Jimny owner here in South Africa. Love it. Would want the landcruser also.
Is it comming to the uk ?
Seems to me the problem with the Toyota is it wont be a basic relatively cheap vehicle. I am sure that will appeal to those with the cash but the Jimny is a great size and sufficiently basic to not have to worry so much about it. It also lends itself to modification. It’s the same issue with the Ineos Grenadier. It sounded great when it was first announced and now that it is here it is so expensive you have to be rich to use it as an off roader. For off roading you need a capable car you can easily repair at an affordable price. This is why i keep my old Land Rover Defender. It does the job very well, I can repair pretty much any of it myself, parts are relatively cheap and easy to source.
Solid front axle?
I wonder if they are using the idea from the FJ cruiser
Cheapest new/demo Jimny Lite on carsales drive away from a dealer in Victoria is AU$38,000, don't know about ordering from Suzuki because you have to request a quote/callback. So realistically a lot more than AU$27,000 + ORC
Expensive LandCruiser's waiting period is 4 years, this one will have waiting period of 8 years. They need to work on production quantity not cheaper cars. People will buy cheaper Jimny and modify it for cheaper.
It makes sense. You would have small, medium, and large Land Cruisers. With the 4Runner being the medium.
will it come to USA??
Will the Toyota IMV have locks and a transfer case?
I'll believe it when I see it. I just don't see Toyota selling a real 4x4 for $25K.
I wanna know where I can get a new delivered Jimny for the supposed recommended retail price.....Anyone?
Arent a lot of Suzukis rebadged Toyotas?
Theres already a 5 door version of the Suzuki Jimny that is sold in India, nonetheless nothing comes close to the Jimny when it comes to price for performance specially when its so easy to upgrade anything you can think of for a low price making it the perfect for those who love to customize their car.
Never seen a Jimny for 28k! 🤣
Its not only Jimney it is also Dacia Duster which btw is much better. But I don't think this sells to US or Australia.
Duster is not as pretty as Suzuki - I agree. I also want this Toyota boxy thing - cant wait to see it.
Toyota and Dihatsu both had small 4x4 before Suzuki did and had a 2.2 ltr diesel in the scout
Jimny was essentially killed here in Europe. I fear that this wont be released globally...if so, I will be the happiest little bird alive.
Here in South America most Toyota Hilux (made in Argentina) comes with a 2.4 Diesel, don't know if this engine is used in Thailand made Toyotas but I would think it woulb be a better fit for the Land Cruiser Mini.
Guarantee the Toyota mini will be over 50k drive away and not the projected $37k. Hardly a killer when it’s sold at a premium price.
It's called LandCruiser 250 and it has almost exactly the same frame as the new 300.
Also it's really big. Within 30cm of the 300.
Basically there's nothing mini about it.
Jimmy is based on a kei car sized vehicle. If Toyota was to challenge the Jimny, I would expect them to release it through their Daihatsu brand and then facelift it as a Toyota.
The Jimny is successful because it is so AFFORDABLE. Owners of the Jimny ( or at least a great portion of owners) are satisfied with the lack of power, lack of luxury and, in particular, the lack of space because it is so well set off by the affordability. The only way any competition will be able to compete, is if it matches the Jimny in price. If it is small to a similar extent to the Jimny but not as affordable, then there would be no point and purpose to the vehicle and nothing for Suzuki to worry about.
The 2001 trios i have is amazing,... Well it would be if there was a crawler gear.
Yeah I've been hanging out for Toyota to bring out their version of Jimny, as Jimny doesn't have long range tanks & Jimny is a tad to small for my leg room 👍
It will be more independent suspension shit. If it isn't solid axles it's a soft roader. Lets just hope the Jimny Ute comes out soon.
Jimnys are on FB market for like 35k+
Im looking to update my car in 2024 and want a 4wd. I'm waiting for more details on this, but if it comes in the diesel variant for around the $50k mark, I'd be very interested!!
No way this will be in Australia before 2025
Update, or replace?
Will the La cruiser mini have a solid front axle?
Doubt it, it'll end up being bigger, floppy front end and a lot more expensive than the Jimny once it hits the dealers in Aus.
The problem with the Jimny is too light on the highway. It comes in like a 1945 WILLY that is also too light for highway driving. The front end float and they are only good below 40 mph on a farm.
If Toyota manufacturers this new Land Cruiser Mini in India it would sell in great numbers, a market of 1450 million people that wants a durable, reliable, efficient, affordable SUV, even Suzuki Jimny is exclusively manufactured here in India, it would be unwise for Toyota to manufacture this new mini Land Cruiser in Thailand as that would essentially mean giving up on the biggest compact SUV market in the world.
Toyota needs to build this Mini Land Cruiser in India or Local Champion (Rising)Mahindra would eat Toyota's market of utility vehicle everywhere.
Building this Mini Land Cruiser in India would also reduce the world wide unit price of this car as Toyota would already have a giant market with a growing population to profit from.
Can even make a pickup truck out of this concept, that would open another market segment for Toyota.
The 2.8 litre Diesel will make it quite fast considering its size.
18k for this hell yeah I wish we had this in Texas
Very nice but I want a smaller ute
2024 release? Where? US? What about Australia? Jimny market is like the vehicle: TINY. Why would Toyota rush to convert to right-hand drive for a tiny market? You can expect this in Australia sometime between 2025 and never.
Similar to a Jimny but with four doors. Did they model it after Bluey's parents' car?
My money is that Suzuki is making this vehicle for Toyota
For toyota to meet the price point you can bet the comfort features will be missing from the land cruiser mini as well
Why are the side mirrors so big! Really annoying if you want to look out or take photos to the side. Especially as the reason you go off road is to see things such as wild animals , spectacular scenery.
I sometimes wonder about Toyota really..if they going to bring out a mini then why not continue with the 3 door they had before it was a great vehicle or the Rave 3 door that was such a beautiful car but they discontinued them for what purpose I have no idea but hallo now they bring one back ...crazy
What a choice between a Suzuki Jimny and a Toyota mini Land Cruiser l do like Suzuki and Toyota well l would never buy a 4X4 but it will be a toss up for small 4X4 buyers
Why has no one identified the vastly popular Raptor range to genuinely compete with?
I am hoping comes to Europe also !!
And like the Jimny probably won't be offered in the US unfortunately. I'd love for Jeep to have competition again, they're getting way too comfortable charging $40k+ for Wranglers.
It'll be a Land Cruiser FJ. Not a going to be Jimny competitor. The small LC will be set above the Jimny.
In South Africa Toyota rebrands suzuki in some models. This they got a contract with suszuki. So all it will be , it will be a rebranded jimny. Just badge, grill etc chande as with lots of models is South Africa.😊
Suzuki won't allow Toyota to rebrand either Swift or Jimny. 😊
HONDA HR-V 1.6 AWD GH series is my love ❤
Imma buy 1
A little ev/hybrid 4wd like a Jimmny would be insane fun
Failed with Diihatsu - why a winner now ? Dream on mate
I hope it comes to the US.
Can’t seen the Toyota being priced under $30,000. Even $40,000 might be a stretch. Suzuki will still hold its market if it can maintain its price.
Toyota as pensé of Suzuki probably would base their product on the 4 door jimny but give it the power always need (yes the 1.6 turbo *de-tuned*) that Suzuki platform with 180-240hp wider track and a baby land Cruiser body pannels, otherwise development and built would be to expensive to fit the market
uh, most likely , it will get Independent rear suspension and Monocoque body. basically a Renegade.
they're completely different cars mate, you're comparing a 2 door petrol SFA 4wd with a 4 door turbo diesel IFS wagon
it aint a jimny killer if it aint in the same price range. the jimny is just more loved and iconic.