Thank you!! Thank you! for making this video!!! I suddenly don't feel weird anymore! Plus, I don't know why, but, can't stop smiling! You guys are so crazy!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
@@EpicLightMedia THANK YOU! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I was literally shocked when I saw my name pop up on the screen this morning. Today was a good day! I still can't stop smiling! Thank you for making my day!!!
Good initiative, I wish we had more test footage! Also not a 3.33x squeeze! 2x1.33 = 2.66 squeeze! The squeeze factors multiply each other, not add onto each other! :P
I want to see what the image circle looks like with both the lens and adaptor are oriented vertically with a taller sensor...could look pretty great & not as tight of a letter box!
There’s only one combo you can add instead of multiply and it comes out right. 2X & 2X! Haha, math joke… Jack Saunders explored a 4X anamorphic option last year with pretty cool results. ua-cam.com/video/f0ST1LCOArQ/v-deo.htmlm01s
Fun experiment idea: mount both the 2x lens and 1.33x adapter sideways on a camera with a 16:9 sensor and then turn the camera sideways so that the lenses are squeezing the horizontal field of view. You have a much larger image and a 1.5:1 aspect ratio
What's the limit to the anamorphic effect? I'm sure there's a point where the compression stops, but it would be nice to see it represented visually. (Pretty please)
It would have been interesting to see how much more oval-ish and extreme the bokeh got, shooting with this ultra double scope squeeze and then utilizing the power of the 12k to just crop back into 2.39 again.
You can approximate the major to minor axis ratio of the ellipse by using the anamorphic factor: eg, 2x is 4:1 height to width before uncompressing, and 2:1 after. Since the full stack was 2.67x, the bokeh will be 7.1:1 (compressed) and 2.67:1 (uncompressed).
"Hey man, I put twice the FOV on your double FOV so now you can see the gaps between electrons changing states in matter". Me: "The Bokeh is really quite nice."
This is a cool idea but it’s about 20 seconds of the stuff we came to see and 7 minutes of other stuff. Would’ve loved to see more detail about what happens to little details, maybe more comparisons to the 35. Might want to balance that out a little more in the future.
Alright, new challenge for ya: Turn the camera 90° and then turn the camera mount 90° as well. This way, you can turn the sideways 9x16 image into a 18x9 image. Then put the 1.33 adapter onto it making it into 24x9 image, or a true widescreen image, without giving up a single pixel! 😂 (I jest, but for real though, pillarbox anamorphic footage is awesome. You should try it out)
YES PLEASE,..you guys must do this experiment.... have not seen it yet on UA-cam... (I have done this at home though..) .. You will be pleasantly impressed
You could get the same result if you did a 2x scope on a 16mm sensor. There’s been some test footage on UA-cam of people doing 2x on the original BM pocket.
A pretty new company is selling an Anamorphic lens + anamorphic adapter combo. I think they are called "Great Joy" which is a pretty trustworthy name for a cinema lens manufacturer in my opinion 😂
Combined, you get 2.67x which makes a 16:9 image become 4.74:1 (128:27) or a 1.90:1 image become 5.06:1 (2048:405). By rotating it, you get 1.5x. 16:9 and 1.90:1 turn into 2.67:1 (8:3) and 2.84:1 (128:45), respectively.
1. Not funny; 2. We are not here to see how much money you have or what gear you can afford; 3. Showed absolutely nothing of what can be done with that gear. Unwatchable.
You clicked on my ridiculous thumbnail and expected something watchable? This is UA-cam and I make stupid videos to screw with people. I don’t know what you expected….
This is like that family guy episode where they found the original release of some film and that shit was ultra dookie wide to the point that it was a thin stripe across the screen.
I like the drunk effect, and I like how you behave like I might around all the ridiculously expensive gear you never could afford, I'm the same. I've bought a steadicam and I'm frightened to put the cinema camera on it in case I send it spinning off into orbit or hit my subject instead of filming them! The wobbly arm is the scariest part, lol!
Why not go Pro and ask for COOKE lenses ? Or get a Panavision Rental .... ATLAS ANAs are the "FIAT 500" car, used, from 30 years ago.... in comparison..
I think you can go deeper. Squeezing horizontally and then vertically essentially gives you a complicated wide angle adapters. But you keep the dept of field and bokeh of the taken lens. How about you do the 1.33x and 2x wide squeeze but then rotate the camera by 90° to have more sensor height. When you unsqueeze that you end up with a useable aspect ratio for video again, but you also have anamorphic characteristics and a virtual large sensor. This is a focal reducer but better. Finally you take an rear anamorphic adapters, to undo part of the stretch of the anamorphic front adapters. Resulting in a useable aspect ratio, a reduced focal length, full sensor usage and only the wanted anamorphic effects. Ignoring all optical issues and money as usual.
I can see how squeezing the image optically and desqueezing it with a special lens could work but when doing it digitally, wouldn’t you essentially be stretching the pixels? How bad does it effect the sharpness compared it if was done on film?
I thought this at first too, then realized you can squish it down, not upscale it to its squeeze ratio. So if you shot 4k, you might end up with 3.7k or something. I'm too tired to math
You should try shooting with the camera vertically.... I wonder how much of a normal horizontal rectangle you would get, but with heaps of stretched blur?
Thank you for making every video interesting and fun to watch. I have to complain a bit though, your tip with the sigma vs the tamrom g2 zoom lens with os was not on point (24-70mm), the tamron g2 is sharper wide open and has less ghosting/chromatic aberration. will exchange my sigma soon. Other than that, I still enoy your videos and keep it up!!
It’s a 2.66X squeeze. Making your Ursa 12k which is 27.03 x 14.25 become a 72 x 14.25 sensor. Actually slightly wider than IMAX 70MM on the horizontal but not as tall. Flip the camera sideways and it becomes a 38 x 27.03 sensor larger than full frame on both sides.
By flipping the 1.33x adapter you didn’t unsqueeze the Orion, you however stretched your vertical or 14.25 by 1.33x into a 19mm making your new sensor size 54 x 19mm which is almost Alexa 65.
if the lens is PL-mount try turning the camera sideways in portrait mode. This will make the sensor 9x16, and put the lens sideways plus the anamorphic adapter and you should get something interesting
Thank you!! Thank you! for making this video!!!
I suddenly don't feel weird anymore!
Plus, I don't know why, but, can't stop smiling!
You guys are so crazy!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
Can You sleep now? hahaha
@THE180DEGREERULE LOL I literally just woke up from a long nap! 😁😆
@@FharishAhmedPortfolio hahaha glad to know that man!
This video is dedicated to your brain!!
@@EpicLightMedia THANK YOU! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I was literally shocked when I saw my name pop up on the screen this morning.
Today was a good day!
I still can't stop smiling!
Thank you for making my day!!!
Neat, but I would have loved more than 10 seconds of sample footage, haha
Yes pls do a followup, so mysterious ~
I’m pretty sure I put 9 seconds actually
they should shoot a whole super wide short film with it
Call it "The big wide short"
@@alex0589 "The big wide short" - That's what she said?
"This cheap camera from Blackmagic"/ WHAT THE F*** DO YOU MEAN BY "CHEAP"?!
*cries in poor
Bro, do this experiment outside!
who am i subscribing to this week? only reason I fallow this channel.
Video starts at 4:50
And it ends at 4:59
Good initiative, I wish we had more test footage! Also not a 3.33x squeeze! 2x1.33 = 2.66 squeeze! The squeeze factors multiply each other, not add onto each other! :P
Count on Tito to come through with the fact checking!
I want to see what the image circle looks like with both the lens and adaptor are oriented vertically with a taller sensor...could look pretty great & not as tight of a letter box!
There’s only one combo you can add instead of multiply and it comes out right. 2X & 2X! Haha, math joke…
Jack Saunders explored a 4X anamorphic option last year with pretty cool results.
ua-cam.com/video/f0ST1LCOArQ/v-deo.htmlm01s
That wobbling elf effect is actually just Premiere's Warp Stabilizer.
"We slapped it on this CHEAP black magic camera" I wish I could say that lol
Fun experiment idea: mount both the 2x lens and 1.33x adapter sideways on a camera with a 16:9 sensor and then turn the camera sideways so that the lenses are squeezing the horizontal field of view. You have a much larger image and a 1.5:1 aspect ratio
Wow!! Good idea actually!!
if you added an addiotnal anamorphic, could you end up with it even wider?? and how many would would you need to make 9:16 video into 16:9???
@@xanderross366 True. If you added a 1.5x scope onto a 2x you get a 3x squeeze and roughly 1.69:1 squeeze. That’s very close to 16:9 (1.77:1).
@@connornyhan 🤯
What's the limit to the anamorphic effect?
I'm sure there's a point where the compression stops, but it would be nice to see it represented visually.
(Pretty please)
You guys should have done this test shooting vertically lol
To make fun of people who film vertically
full on troll, that very him
Duhh. That's how you get the Instagram Story High aspect ratio.
It would have been interesting to see how much more oval-ish and extreme the bokeh got, shooting with this ultra double scope squeeze and then utilizing the power of the 12k to just crop back into 2.39 again.
This, I was here for the crazy bokeh as well.
Shut up parker
Nah. You got a point though
Yes. Whats the point otherwise?
You can approximate the major to minor axis ratio of the ellipse by using the anamorphic factor: eg, 2x is 4:1 height to width before uncompressing, and 2:1 after. Since the full stack was 2.67x, the bokeh will be 7.1:1 (compressed) and 2.67:1 (uncompressed).
“I would never use this on a project because it looks weird,” what an underwhelming conclusion.
Love the .5 seconds we had to see the result
"Hey man, I put twice the FOV on your double FOV so now you can see the gaps between electrons changing states in matter".
Me: "The Bokeh is really quite nice."
This is a cool idea but it’s about 20 seconds of the stuff we came to see and 7 minutes of other stuff. Would’ve loved to see more detail about what happens to little details, maybe more comparisons to the 35. Might want to balance that out a little more in the future.
“we buy the stuff, but then we dont know how to take care of it”
LEMME DO IT FOR YAAAA
What a unique video, makes me wonder what a triple anamorphic would look like. Great content.
Interesting indeed but not complete... We need to see extra squeezed anamorphic flares!
oh man it husts me when you say a cheap camera from black magic
Alright, new challenge for ya: Turn the camera 90° and then turn the camera mount 90° as well. This way, you can turn the sideways 9x16 image into a 18x9 image. Then put the 1.33 adapter onto it making it into 24x9 image, or a true widescreen image, without giving up a single pixel! 😂
(I jest, but for real though, pillarbox anamorphic footage is awesome. You should try it out)
genius
YES PLEASE,..you guys must do this experiment.... have not seen it yet on UA-cam... (I have done this at home though..) .. You will be pleasantly impressed
Wouldn't your squeeze factor be 2 x 1.33 being 2.66 because the adapter would multiply the 2 squeeze?
i think
Yeah... light is exponential, not additive. So I guess it should be multiplied
Yeah 2.66 makes a lot more sense in my mind.
Or..use that "amazing" LETUS ANA LENS adapter on the widest Lens you can.... I wonder what you will come up with....
Love how the “1” from “12K” on the URSA still looks grey after previously being defaced. 😂 made my day.
You could get the same result if you did a 2x scope on a 16mm sensor. There’s been some test footage on UA-cam of people doing 2x on the original BM pocket.
Put the camera on its side and film the next SpaceX launch.
A pretty new company is selling an Anamorphic lens + anamorphic adapter combo. I think they are called "Great Joy" which is a pretty trustworthy name for a cinema lens manufacturer in my opinion 😂
Combined, you get 2.67x which makes a 16:9 image become 4.74:1 (128:27) or a 1.90:1 image become 5.06:1 (2048:405). By rotating it, you get 1.5x. 16:9 and 1.90:1 turn into 2.67:1 (8:3) and 2.84:1 (128:45), respectively.
1. Not funny; 2. We are not here to see how much money you have or what gear you can afford; 3. Showed absolutely nothing of what can be done with that gear. Unwatchable.
You clicked on my ridiculous thumbnail and expected something watchable? This is UA-cam and I make stupid videos to screw with people. I don’t know what you expected….
It looks like a panoramic photo, I could find some uses for that
I tried this idea two years ago with schneider anamorphic adapter + isco red star + Jupiter 135mm + gh5s
Haha. "I know I act all tough..." "That's not nice." Great video - as usual.
wouldn't a 1.33:1 adapter over a 2:1 lens equal about a 2.66:1 ratio? If so, it explains why a 100mm is roughly equivalent to a 30mm....
This is like that family guy episode where they found the original release of some film and that shit was ultra dookie wide to the point that it was a thin stripe across the screen.
Hahahhaha you guys do some of my favorite cinematography videos.
But it ended up measuring the same as the width of your sensor didn't it? Same width as a 16:9 but shorter in height right?
Would have been cool to see how movement in the frame and various b-roll compositions would have looked instead of just dead centre interview shot!
I like the drunk effect, and I like how you behave like I might around all the ridiculously expensive gear you never could afford, I'm the same.
I've bought a steadicam and I'm frightened to put the cinema camera on it in case I send it spinning off into orbit or hit my subject instead of filming them! The wobbly arm is the scariest part, lol!
Why not go Pro and ask for COOKE lenses ? Or get a Panavision Rental .... ATLAS ANAs are the "FIAT 500" car, used, from 30 years ago.... in comparison..
You are so handsome Thomas.... uffff... all my favorite things: camera, lighting, film, handsome men. Life complete.
I think you can go deeper. Squeezing horizontally and then vertically essentially gives you a complicated wide angle adapters. But you keep the dept of field and bokeh of the taken lens.
How about you do the 1.33x and 2x wide squeeze but then rotate the camera by 90° to have more sensor height. When you unsqueeze that you end up with a useable aspect ratio for video again, but you also have anamorphic characteristics and a virtual large sensor. This is a focal reducer but better.
Finally you take an rear anamorphic adapters, to undo part of the stretch of the anamorphic front adapters. Resulting in a useable aspect ratio, a reduced focal length, full sensor usage and only the wanted anamorphic effects.
Ignoring all optical issues and money as usual.
I can see how squeezing the image optically and desqueezing it with a special lens could work but when doing it digitally, wouldn’t you essentially be stretching the pixels? How bad does it effect the sharpness compared it if was done on film?
I thought this at first too, then realized you can squish it down, not upscale it to its squeeze ratio. So if you shot 4k, you might end up with 3.7k or something. I'm too tired to math
You should try shooting with the camera vertically.... I wonder how much of a normal horizontal rectangle you would get, but with heaps of stretched blur?
Kicking off the day with a video from Epic Light is almost better than coffee.
Shout out to The Nerdwriter and the best video essays in the game.
Put one more anamorphic adapter on
I know the feeling when you buy the stuff and don't know where to care it lol XD
How dare you forget one of the main tests of this video the “FLARE”
Reminds me of this joke on family guy
ua-cam.com/video/NaHIFAZ8fz8/v-deo.html
please shoot more on this, just the widest wide of wides
Very interesting. I couldn’t stop cringing that there was no lens support. I’m crying for the lens mount on your camera.
"and we slapped it on to this cheap camera from Blackmagic.." - Ouch :(
Hilarious to think that the blackmagic camera is only worth 1/4 what the lens is worth.
@@PiercingSight what's even more hilarious is that it's not even a fraction of the price of a real lens, such as an Arri Signature Prime.
@@jeffmichaels7584 *nods* Film making is an expensive hobby.
@@PiercingSight It sure is! But it's worth it 🙌
If you got a pretty of money you could possibly experiment whatever you could image.
Should’ve tried the lens adapter with the new Sirui 50mm x1.6 since it’s not a full x2…
What if...
You put an anamorphic lens adapter... onto an anamorphic lens adapter... onto an anamorphic lens??? 0.o
Please put a gym mat, or a yoga mat, or SOMETHING on the floor before I have an aneurysm.
I think Great Joy 60mm T2.9 Anamorphic Lens + Adapter already does it kinda
lol from where i live you cant associate " cheap " to " blackmagic " have some respect dude !!!
Christopher Columbus was not the first but European said he was. You don't have to be the first, just do it better.
Why is this not getting thrown from the roof? That 10,000 Dollars lens needs to pass the roof test.. Who agrees?
goddamit why you made only ONE shot with this set. And its as ordinary shot it can get. Walk around house with this thing i wannt see more
wouldn't it have been the widest if you used the atlas orion 32mm instead of the 100mm?
About to try this with the new 1.6 siriu and my aivascope 1.5. Wish me luck.
I would love to see a stupid video about the DJI 4D camera ;);) has to be fun !!!
Thank you for making every video interesting and fun to watch. I have to complain a bit though, your tip with the sigma vs the tamrom g2 zoom lens with os was not on point (24-70mm), the tamron g2 is sharper wide open and has less ghosting/chromatic aberration. will exchange my sigma soon. Other than that, I still enoy your videos and keep it up!!
"This video is sponsored by nobody because this channel is in decline."
Fuck you, subscribed.
Fun video man, loving your super sensitive side, didn't subscribe though. 😁😉
What about putting the adapter on backwards, so it gets unsquished and squished before it gets to the sensor?
A bit extreme but is there an anamorphic lense that will let me shoot in exactly 4:1 ratio?
Now attach the Atlas PL mount sideways, then repeat the same expirement
This is the only time ive watched a channel telling me not to sub but your content is too good not to 😅
Wow, shouting out other UA-cam channels now. Really cool idea actually.
If you want to know what a real film scientist was check out Val Del Omar.
this lens idea goes cheaper with the great joy anamorphic 60mm.
I think that guys security Pedro paskal is what I think!
Dude I love your channel, you think like me, has anyone tried it yet? No, lets do it!
aint you became sad when BM dropped 12k price to 6k ??
Subbed because you told me not to sub. You can't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad. 😤
Now put both of them on an angled 9:16 image and make it 4:3 or what would be the output? 🔥
Why not add a rear anamorphic adapter to get even wider?
Did he say cheap camera from Black Magic? When I hear Black Magic, I don't even pay attention.
Why? Everyone has to start somewhere.
Shouldve put a light bulb in the back to test out the bokeh shape.
It’s a 2.66X squeeze. Making your Ursa 12k which is 27.03 x 14.25 become a 72 x 14.25 sensor. Actually slightly wider than IMAX 70MM on the horizontal but not as tall. Flip the camera sideways and it becomes a 38 x 27.03 sensor larger than full frame on both sides.
By flipping the 1.33x adapter you didn’t unsqueeze the Orion, you however stretched your vertical or 14.25 by 1.33x into a 19mm making your new sensor size 54 x 19mm which is almost Alexa 65.
And if the math is right, then your 100mm actually becomes about 38mm
No worries. I got you. Unsubscribed two times!
Oh my! What manner of thing have you done here you madman!
You got me. I liked and Subscribed. 😁
2:55 when you ask siri and she has no answer
this is such a sad episode! im crying and bawling and screaming
What if you use that combo but shoot with the sensor in a vertical position, then getting a 9:16 sensor deliver a 1.85:1 image😂
Oh we made a whole video about that haha ua-cam.com/video/K19Yd83iirY/v-deo.html
I enjoy this channel to mutch, so mutch that i need to unscribe
if the lens is PL-mount try turning the camera sideways in portrait mode. This will make the sensor 9x16, and put the lens sideways plus the anamorphic adapter and you should get something interesting
well apparently I'm late with this suggestion..
But I can’t afford it… ELM…. Sucks for you!! Lol love it😂
What if the sensor is vertical, but the lens is not?
what shelves!!?? looks so good
We need this but with the bokeh so we can see what it looks like!
That outro made me subscribe even harder
Damn your optics are dirty 4:18 ewh
- That makes me saaad. :(
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And what will happen once everyone Unsubscribed from the channel? 🤔
It will be finally over and we will close down for good
cannel in decline ? glad it was on recommended
Holy this is ultra wide for a 100mm 😅