While not a great comparison. I have Grx 2x Di2 on my gravel and SRAM 1x eagle AXS on my xc bike. Gotta say I prefer the Di2. The battery last longer and the shifting is smoother. The wires weren’t as bad as I thought. And once it’s done it’s done. Di2 for road is also lighter
shimano di2 for sure while i dont like the way sram functions and the DOT oil is not kinda my thing😂 mean while in china a set of 7170 cost under 1000k so why not🎉
Very nice setup :) One aspect you might want to think about is TPU tubes in place of the latex, Latex are very nice, light, fast nd comfortable. TPU though I have found are more puncture resistant, even lighter and you don't have to pump up the tyres as often
Ride a 2018 Allez Sprint Comp size 58, have it for almost 4 yrs, 28c tires are a game changer and its still lighter than my Felt carbon TT bike. just found your channel, enjoyed the vid
@@shinn43 The Allez Sprint rim brake uses a single bolt caliper versus the dual pivot bolts. This adds a little more tire clearance for 28s. You may however need to deflate the tires a little for mounting.
@@PatrickLino dependent on the groupset and generation, I’m using dura ace r9000 which is a dual pivot caliper. Was hoping to see other Sprint rim owners experience with fitting 28mm tires (alongside what external rim width they’re running)
Great video! I have the same bike and love it for everything. Crits and centuries on the same machine. Surprising how well it behaves on the open road. Sub’d!
@@PatrickLino true story they also have a second shape "arc" which has more curve at the wings. the standard 143 doesn't work well for me but the arc does.
@@rwillems0000 With the power (no pun) of UA-cam and local riders, I found someone will to donate their 143 Power to me for the time being. Gotta love the cycling community!
I did an experiment going from 172.5 to 165 cranks, and the shorter cranks were easier to do higher cadence and worked fine, but as far as my fit goes, My long-ish femurs like how the 172.5s feel better and I get a little bit more power compared to the short ones.
@@PatrickLino yeah I felt with 165 that it was smoother and easier to do the high cadence where it might start feeling a little awkward with the longer crank. My slight issue was that I was just putting out less power overall with the shorter crank and that my saddle would have needed to be super offset to try to counter that
I have both ultegra 12 speed di2 and sram red..I have them both on my sl7 tarmacs pro and S-works.. I honestly prefer the di2 ultegra..the sram is cool because of the comfort spot of the 10/33 cassette but the Ultegra just seems to be built stronger and it seems alot snappier..
Thanks Reinhold! Yup 48/35. Probably could use a 50/37 for chain efficiency, but so far so good. The gearing is great for climbing and solid on the flats.
@@PatrickLino lol… yup… I had the regular power saddles for years… switched after my fitter suggested it and one of my friends put one on his Venge… the price is a mofo, but I haven’t regretted it one day… Some of our roads out here are 🚮, so it’s been a relief having it… one of your LBS should have that saddle tryout program… see if that’s one of the ones available… one thing the regular saddle did early on was got me to stop buying cheap bibs!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@astrayagrarian The only people who hate Specialized seem to be the people that have never ridden them... I've owned plenty of different brands of bikes, and Specialized is one of the best. Do all of their products hit? Absolutely not, but denying that they're bikes are good is just being contrarian for the sake of wanting to stick your nose in the air at everyone else.
@@TheCyclissimoAmong the many brands I've worked on, I always find Specialized bikes to be the best to work on, but this doesn't apply to every single one of their models. As good as their products are, their increasing prices make it harder for me to recommend them to others, unless they have too much money to spend.
Thanks for watching! I haven't ridden the gen 2 T1550. Winspace changed the geometry which doesn't work for me sadly. But I would get it over the Allez Sprint.
congrats on the new update setup the power saddle have a reg version which is 143mm i find allez 3d printed they are hard to setup and when its tighten it cause the headset rotation to have more drag the shimano di2 12speed is bombproof FD shift way faster compare to sram. assioma is great option PM specially since it have shimano now too look keo ceramic require a lot of service if ride in bad weather n develop creaks n premature wear
Based on pure excitement: My old Allez Sprint for sure. That bike always wanted to go fast haha! This new one is more refined, and I needed to make the jump to disc brake in order to keep reviewing new wheels.
Hey, enjoyed your video. I'm recently in to this sport, and I mean to be serious in some degree. And Allez Sprint seems to be the bike for me, but I want to know bit more from who own the bike. How far do you think it can go in a single ride? Do you think you can do the 'epic miles' with Allez? Online says that its race geometry after all, so I'm little bit concerned in case of long rides.
Everything you mentioned is matter of having a good bike fit and using comfortable components that work for you. No matter what bike you use. Frame geometry is a personal choice.
I think you have had numerous other bikes since this one. Do you have anything to add related to the ride feel compared to the other frames? ( Both in terms of power delivery stiffness - AND - in long ride comfort.)
I've not really had a problem with perceived comfort on any of the bikes I've tested as of today 2024. My Giant Propel is just stiff as the Allez Sprint, but much lighter. And you can always mitigate road vibrations with wider wheels/tires and lower pressures.
I had a Power saddle but it didn’t work for me. I love a long nose for stability against my legs when cornering and descending. I use a Selle Italia super flow boost now.
How do you like the Elitewheels after all this time? The wheels i'm eyeing are the the EV Drive 65D and the HYPER D67. Don't know what to choose - the EV would cost me 989$, the Hyper 1170$.
@@PatrickLino Would you say that the hypers are worth the extra money - 181$? I have seen that some people have problems with the spoke resonance when braking, i guess you never had problems like that with your pair :)?
@@LordFilbo Truthfully it's worth the $181 if you value stiffness. I have 10% off discount for both Elite and Winspace. Spoke resonance was a small concern on the previous Hypers, but not these new ones.
Very nice bike Sir, interesting you said its a comfort bike. Thanks for the info and the video. Im guessing all your comfort come from the wheels. And not from the seatpost, aero seatpost is an ass killer 😂 even its a carbon seatpost
hey Patrick, weird question but how much do you weigh? I got the same bike and 28mm tubeless on hooked hyper wheels. I wanna go lower PSI but I'm worried since I weigh like 89KG/196lbs. So I run my tires at max out of caution haha
I’m pretty sure that’s going to be my next bike. My cannondale caad12 is great overall but when I sprint I feel like it’s going in all different directions.
I had an alloy bike before that was a good bit heavier but it sprinted and climbed so nimbly compared to my Cdale. I’m 180 so I’m going to have to go with a heavier frame in order to not twist it around when I manhandle it.
@@PatrickLino how much do you weigh? I have a specialized power saddle and a cheap full carbon aliexpress saddle, and I prefer the carbon saddle. Wouldn't ride it if I'd weigh above 75kg though
I have the same color but 52 size sprint with carbon Hyper D45 wheels, aluminum stem, aluminum aero handlebars. The most comfortable bike I’ve ever ridden (and I’ve ridden a lot of them in all kind of materials). Allez Sprint is my first choice for any longer ride unless it involves off-road or carrying bike packing stuff. I’ve done a couple of rides over 150 miles on it and lots of centuries. It’s much better than my “relaxed geometry” professionally fitted carbon all-road/gravel. Everyone on UA-cam just keeps repeating the same nonsense that aluminum is so harsh, carbon is so fast and comfortable, titanium and steel - are almost like full suspension fat-bikes, racing geometry only good for 20 miles rides, etc. But materials does not matter as much as the right geometry and your personal body compatibility with that geometry, and, maybe, the right saddle. This carbon seat post makes zero difference and it’s stiff asf compared to any aluminum 27.2 round one, the same as any other carbon part. You only really can feel the wider tires with lower pressure affecting the ride quality.
Sadly I sold mine 3 weeks ago. I couldn't justify keeping it after I bought my Tarmac SL8. Im sure the Allez Sprint and I will meet again....for the 3rd time.
@@PatrickLinoThat’s right SL8 is the only respectable replacement for Sprint 🫡. All the rest is just business ;). Maybe SL7 too… Wow, you really replying almost to everyone right away!👍.
Twenty plus years ago people had the same perception about road bike materials, wheels, weight, etc. And I can say having ridden over 100k miles on the road that all of it is overrated and over hyped. Fit and geometry are 99% of your experience. Not to say new materials aren't nice...but saying a aluminum bike is "heavy" is so 2001.
SRAM eTap vs Shimano Di2? Let me know!
While not a great comparison. I have Grx 2x Di2 on my gravel and SRAM 1x eagle AXS on my xc bike. Gotta say I prefer the Di2. The battery last longer and the shifting is smoother. The wires weren’t as bad as I thought. And once it’s done it’s done. Di2 for road is also lighter
@@thecappy This is precisely what I wanted to know. Thank you!
shimano di2 for sure while i dont like the way sram functions and the DOT oil is not kinda my thing😂 mean while in china a set of 7170 cost under 1000k so why not🎉
@@zhoujustin1954 SRAM Force eTap is currently on sale too!
@@PatrickLino yea thats true but i prefer shimano😄(although i really dig the designs from sram on those cranks)
Very nice setup :) One aspect you might want to think about is TPU tubes in place of the latex, Latex are very nice, light, fast nd comfortable. TPU though I have found are more puncture resistant, even lighter and you don't have to pump up the tyres as often
Thanks David, it's on the list to try soon!
Great review! My local specialized store is closing down and I was able to get the same frame & color for 50% off. Can’t wait to build mine.
Crazy deal! Shoot me an IG pic once the build is complete!
Clear and concise as always. Great review! But yes that's dam expensive.
But Specialized says it’s the fastest alloy frame in the world! 🤣
Man, I appreciate all the honesty and good information!
Thanks for watching Tim! Have a great week.
Ride a 2018 Allez Sprint Comp size 58, have it for almost 4 yrs, 28c tires are a game changer and its still lighter than my Felt carbon TT bike. just found your channel, enjoyed the vid
Thanks for watching! Yup I had the previous Allez Sprint in rim brake for almost 7000 miles. Sometimes I miss it haha
Allez sprint rim? How'd you fit a 28mm tire?
@@shinn43 The Allez Sprint rim brake uses a single bolt caliper versus the dual pivot bolts. This adds a little more tire clearance for 28s. You may however need to deflate the tires a little for mounting.
@@PatrickLino dependent on the groupset and generation, I’m using dura ace r9000 which is a dual pivot caliper. Was hoping to see other Sprint rim owners experience with fitting 28mm tires (alongside what external rim width they’re running)
@@shinn43 How are you running dual pivoti calipers, when the rim brake Allez Sprint is single bolt?
Nice informative review! I just did 100miles also on my allez sprint 2022 and it is fast and comfy to ride. Thanks for the review 👌👍
Thanks for watching!
When someone on UA-cam mentions free stuff, it’s always great
You should try it.
Great video! I have the same bike and love it for everything. Crits and centuries on the same machine. Surprising how well it behaves on the open road. Sub’d!
Thanks John!
I love watching your vids! Thank you for all the information you share.
Thanks for the support, I really appreciate it.
Great content .Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
Thanks for watching!
Great review man! I love my sprint as well
Sprint Gang: UNITE!
Hey, thanks for the video. Just so you know, Specialized makes the Power saddle narrower.
Man no one told me this hahaha
Yeah, they go down to 143mm
@@PatrickLino true story they also have a second shape "arc" which has more curve at the wings. the standard 143 doesn't work well for me but the arc does.
@@rwillems0000 With the power (no pun) of UA-cam and local riders, I found someone will to donate their 143 Power to me for the time being. Gotta love the cycling community!
@@PatrickLino esp with saddles right? The team is considering a saddle collection that you check one out to try.
Very informative 👌🏾✊🏾👊🏾
Thanks bruh!👌🏾✊🏾👊🏾
I did an experiment going from 172.5 to 165 cranks, and the shorter cranks were easier to do higher cadence and worked fine, but as far as my fit goes, My long-ish femurs like how the 172.5s feel better and I get a little bit more power compared to the short ones.
Did you "feel" a difference in cadence to do the same power output? And was it sustainable?
@@PatrickLino yeah I felt with 165 that it was smoother and easier to do the high cadence where it might start feeling a little awkward with the longer crank. My slight issue was that I was just putting out less power overall with the shorter crank and that my saddle would have needed to be super offset to try to counter that
@@PatrickLino I also did the bigger jump so that I could feel the difference instead of going for a really small change that would be harder to notice
@@BrianMcDonald Makes sense. Thank you for sharing your experience 💪🏾
@@PatrickLino You want some cheap 165 sram force cranks? haha
I have both ultegra 12 speed di2 and sram red..I have them both on my sl7 tarmacs pro and S-works.. I honestly prefer the di2 ultegra..the sram is cool because of the comfort spot of the 10/33 cassette but the Ultegra just seems to be built stronger and it seems alot snappier..
Excellent to know, thanks Jay!
I’ve spent over 10k miles on the Romin Evo Gel. Never had a problem (other than occasional creaking over time)
That saddle is on the list!
Nice component mix and wheelset and unique looking frame color but my favourite color would be Navy blue or black,are your front chainrings 48/35?
Thanks Reinhold! Yup 48/35. Probably could use a 50/37 for chain efficiency, but so far so good. The gearing is great for climbing and solid on the flats.
Hey man, great video enjoyed it very much ….. I have also rode aluminum and like it.
All hail alloy!
Hey PL… the Power Mirror saddle(s) are game changers for comfort… pricey af tho, but worth the investment… 🍻
Not too squishy, or soft/firm in all the right places?
@@PatrickLino lol… yup… I had the regular power saddles for years… switched after my fitter suggested it and one of my friends put one on his Venge… the price is a mofo, but I haven’t regretted it one day… Some of our roads out here are 🚮, so it’s been a relief having it… one of your LBS should have that saddle tryout program… see if that’s one of the ones available… one thing the regular saddle did early on was got me to stop buying cheap bibs!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@CycoWarriorx Ahaha a local dude is selling his for $300. Sheeeesh!
@@PatrickLino expensive…
Have the green in a rim,also have a tarmac & a emonda,the allez rides like a formula 1 car best way to describe the ride
Fantastic description. Thanks for watching Joe!
You’ve driven a formula 1 car?
Looking fresh, bro! Is that frame heavier than your VB 168?
Much heavier like 400g. But significantly stiffer, responsive, and faster.
Once you go Allez, you won't betray.
Trust.
Allez Gang reporting for duty!
Once you go specialized, you become one of their fan boys who shill literally anything they put out.
@@astrayagrarian There are small lies, big lies, and then there's Specialized.
@@astrayagrarian The only people who hate Specialized seem to be the people that have never ridden them...
I've owned plenty of different brands of bikes, and Specialized is one of the best. Do all of their products hit? Absolutely not, but denying that they're bikes are good is just being contrarian for the sake of wanting to stick your nose in the air at everyone else.
@@TheCyclissimoAmong the many brands I've worked on, I always find Specialized bikes to be the best to work on, but this doesn't apply to every single one of their models.
As good as their products are, their increasing prices make it harder for me to recommend them to others, unless they have too much money to spend.
Hey thx for all the great content! Would you go w a Winspace 2nd gen T1550 over the allez sprint?
Thanks for watching! I haven't ridden the gen 2 T1550. Winspace changed the geometry which doesn't work for me sadly. But I would get it over the Allez Sprint.
Man! I love it too, although these welding rivets look like out of place.
Not the easiest frame on the eyes...
Left out the carbon bars adding to your comfort. Also, try the Bontrager Aeolus Elite saddle.
I run the Aeolus Elite on my Winspace T1500 👍🏾
congrats on the new update setup
the power saddle have a reg version which is 143mm
i find allez 3d printed they are hard to setup and when its tighten it cause the headset rotation to have more drag
the shimano di2 12speed is bombproof FD shift way faster compare to sram.
assioma is great option PM specially since it have shimano now too
look keo ceramic require a lot of service if ride in bad weather n develop creaks n premature wear
Thanks for watching ❤️
Hi Pat, comparing the elite you using with the lun WINDSPACE, what wheels should be better?
And , that helmet you have what brand is? Grts bro!!!
The Elite Drive are lighter. The Winspace Hypers are stiffer. Choose one 😀
@@PatrickLino thank you!!!
Which one u like better Pat? Old allez or this new one? Thanks for replying Par
Based on pure excitement: My old Allez Sprint for sure. That bike always wanted to go fast haha! This new one is more refined, and I needed to make the jump to disc brake in order to keep reviewing new wheels.
I have been using old allez sprint for almost 4 years now.. and i still looking for approval hahaha.. keep making awesome videos Pat!
@@davidgoon1978The first-generation Allez Sprint will always have my approval, that's one of my favourite bikes ever made. Are you on rim or disc?
I'm a bit late on the video but I wanted to ask you where you bought that 3d printed stem "cap"?
Had it printed locally by a generous buddy of mine.
I'm waitting for the new color before deciding if I should buy one or not.
@@zhuyufan1186 that new white looks great
Hey, enjoyed your video. I'm recently in to this sport, and I mean to be serious in some degree. And Allez Sprint seems to be the bike for me, but I want to know bit more from who own the bike. How far do you think it can go in a single ride? Do you think you can do the 'epic miles' with Allez? Online says that its race geometry after all, so I'm little bit concerned in case of long rides.
Everything you mentioned is matter of having a good bike fit and using comfortable components that work for you. No matter what bike you use. Frame geometry is a personal choice.
@@PatrickLino Thanks mate! I'm feeling much better now.
I think you have had numerous other bikes since this one. Do you have anything to add related to the ride feel compared to the other frames? ( Both in terms of power delivery stiffness - AND - in long ride comfort.)
I've not really had a problem with perceived comfort on any of the bikes I've tested as of today 2024. My Giant Propel is just stiff as the Allez Sprint, but much lighter. And you can always mitigate road vibrations with wider wheels/tires and lower pressures.
@@PatrickLino Thank you
I had a Power saddle but it didn’t work for me. I love a long nose for stability against my legs when cornering and descending. I use a Selle Italia super flow boost now.
Those Selle Italia super flows look good!
1st black fan cyclist on youtube I had to subscribe🥳
Let’s gooooooooo
How do you like the Elitewheels after all this time? The wheels i'm eyeing are the the EV Drive 65D and the HYPER D67. Don't know what to choose - the EV would cost me 989$, the Hyper 1170$.
Elite Drive are lighter. Hyper D67 are stiffer. I love them both, slight edge to the Hypers. Choose wisely 👍🏾
@@PatrickLino Would you say that the hypers are worth the extra money - 181$? I have seen that some people have problems with the spoke resonance when braking, i guess you never had problems like that with your pair :)?
@@LordFilbo Truthfully it's worth the $181 if you value stiffness. I have 10% off discount for both Elite and Winspace. Spoke resonance was a small concern on the previous Hypers, but not these new ones.
Did the picnic bench dude have a follow up question about junk after the camera turned off?
Haha nah but he legitimately asked me afterwards: "Hey are you on UA-cam?" - I'm not joking.
@@PatrickLino did you reply, "Nah...OF"
Very nice bike Sir, interesting you said its a comfort bike. Thanks for the info and the video. Im guessing all your comfort come from the wheels. And not from the seatpost, aero seatpost is an ass killer 😂 even its a carbon seatpost
Anecdotally speaking, I haven't found aero seatposts to be uncomfortable. If anything, the added carbon aids in vibration dampening. I think LoL...
hey Patrick, weird question but how much do you weigh? I got the same bike and 28mm tubeless on hooked hyper wheels. I wanna go lower PSI but I'm worried since I weigh like 89KG/196lbs. So I run my tires at max out of caution haha
It’s always best as a starting place to run pressure based on your rider weight, internal width of the wheels, and observed width at the actual tire.
The deal breaker for me are those welds on the top and downtubes. They look like a repair. what was specialized thinking?
Nice
I prefer a wider saddle because it supports my lower back on longer rides.
What size width?
I’m pretty sure that’s going to be my next bike. My cannondale caad12 is great overall but when I sprint I feel like it’s going in all different directions.
Dang what do you mean by all different directions?
@@PatrickLino it flexes so bad I feel like I’m going to pull it apart.
I had an alloy bike before that was a good bit heavier but it sprinted and climbed so nimbly compared to my Cdale. I’m 180 so I’m going to have to go with a heavier frame in order to not twist it around when I manhandle it.
I might have missed it but how tall are you?
6 feet tall 👍🏾
The power comes in a 143 too.
Whaaat? Oh man thanks for the heads up!
@@PatrickLino how much do you weigh? I have a specialized power saddle and a cheap full carbon aliexpress saddle, and I prefer the carbon saddle. Wouldn't ride it if I'd weigh above 75kg though
@@MarkBurghouwt I have a fully carbon saddle among a variety of other saddles too. It's comfy. I'm around 74kg with no issues.
Aluminum bikes last longer than carbon bikes right?
@@Kwicksand Yup
Welcome back….
DUNCAN!
Should I get the Allez sprint or just keep my Caad13?
Really comes down to geometry and aesthetics really.
what material was used for printing 3D?
Not sure, it was made by a local buddy. But it is stronger and more durable then typical 3D printed materials
What height would you say the 56 size is for?
@@Shreyas2202k The Specialized website has a friendly size calculator based on entering your height 👍🏾
What headlight do you have on there?
Bontraget ION
I have the same color but 52 size sprint with carbon Hyper D45 wheels, aluminum stem, aluminum aero handlebars. The most comfortable bike I’ve ever ridden (and I’ve ridden a lot of them in all kind of materials). Allez Sprint is my first choice for any longer ride unless it involves off-road or carrying bike packing stuff. I’ve done a couple of rides over 150 miles on it and lots of centuries. It’s much better than my “relaxed geometry” professionally fitted carbon all-road/gravel. Everyone on UA-cam just keeps repeating the same nonsense that aluminum is so harsh, carbon is so fast and comfortable, titanium and steel - are almost like full suspension fat-bikes, racing geometry only good for 20 miles rides, etc. But materials does not matter as much as the right geometry and your personal body compatibility with that geometry, and, maybe, the right saddle. This carbon seat post makes zero difference and it’s stiff asf compared to any aluminum 27.2 round one, the same as any other carbon part. You only really can feel the wider tires with lower pressure affecting the ride quality.
Sadly I sold mine 3 weeks ago. I couldn't justify keeping it after I bought my Tarmac SL8. Im sure the Allez Sprint and I will meet again....for the 3rd time.
@@PatrickLinoThat’s right SL8 is the only respectable replacement for Sprint 🫡. All the rest is just business ;). Maybe SL7 too… Wow, you really replying almost to everyone right away!👍.
@@IvanMalechko I have to respond hahaha. Viewer support is the only reason I'm able to do what I do ❤
What bibs do you recommend for longer rides?
Nevermind I watched the rest of the video😂
@@toastyant4702 Haha I was finna say 🤣
What stem length are you running ?
And how tall are you ?
3:16 mark
How tall are you to fit the 56 cm?
6 feet
Power comes in a 143 Also
I thought you refrained from penis jokes on this vid, but then you started talking about your crank reduction surgery
Hahaha dang
Twenty plus years ago people had the same perception about road bike materials, wheels, weight, etc. And I can say having ridden over 100k miles on the road that all of it is overrated and over hyped. Fit and geometry are 99% of your experience. Not to say new materials aren't nice...but saying a aluminum bike is "heavy" is so 2001.
Have a great week. Thanks for watching!
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