AI Music is Good Now - So What Do We Do?! | UDIO AI

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  • Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
  • I tried out the new Udio Music AI - we need to talk. Drop a comment with your thoughts on this.
    As mentioned in this video, all the background music was made courtesy of members of the Producers Tier of the Digging The Greats Patreon for 2 recent Beat Battles. Find out more at / diggingthegreats
    Thank you to the following producers for the music in this video. Credits listed in order as they were heard in the video:
    “Optional” by ill.literate
    “Junkyard Strut” by C_CATS ATTACK - ccatsattack.bandcamp.com
    “B’s Magic Fingers” by ill.literate
    “Soundtrack for that montage scene in heist films where it cuts to each person doing their special thing to lay the groundwork for the big payoff” by C_CATS ATTACK
    “Untitled” by The Jackal / jakalbeats
    “Untitled” by Matalo linktr.ee/Matalo
    “G.E.B.” by Damion F.
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    TOPICS COVERED
    UDIO AI
    AI Music
    #aimusic #ai #udiomusic
    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Welp.
    05:05 What Are We Doing?
    08:54 So What's Next?
    11:20 What Do We Do?

КОМЕНТАРІ • 801

  • @TheInternetIsDeadToMe
    @TheInternetIsDeadToMe 17 днів тому +173

    We’ve optimised the joy out of life.

    • @nickk5948
      @nickk5948 12 днів тому +11

      But think of the value for shareholders 📈📈

    • @PaulBrunt
      @PaulBrunt 11 днів тому

      @@nickk5948 No, musicians might be panicked, but they'll carry on anyway because they love it. Shareholders, on the other hand, are in full-on panic mode. AI creates abundance, and abundance is the enemy of profit. In 10 years' time, when models like Udio are running locally on everyone's phone, what exactly will there be for companies to sell?!

    • @heavenseek
      @heavenseek 7 днів тому +4

      ...And Merit.... And Discovery.

    • @blakasmurf
      @blakasmurf 7 днів тому +11

      AI was meant to do the hard stuff, so we could enjoy the creative stuff... The companies got it a$$ backwards like do my chores and let me make music FFS not the other way around!

    • @lukeautosymbol2668
      @lukeautosymbol2668 5 днів тому +1

      And we've legislated away any possible solution.

  • @Cyke-One
    @Cyke-One 18 днів тому +212

    I’m 45 years old and have been listening to hip hop since I was 13, djing since 16, and writing graffiti for even longer. I’ve never made much money for djing and probably in the red from graff but I continue to do it for the pure love of it. I don’t get out painting as much but I’m still able to drop about 4-5 pieces every summer and love every minute of it. If you have something in your life that you love to do regardless of the money consider yourself lucky and keep doing whatever it may be. That drive and passion is the one thing that AI can’t replicate. Keep it movin. Salute!

    • @drewthehustler
      @drewthehustler 17 днів тому +1

      Facts. Exactly

    • @MATALOMUSIC
      @MATALOMUSIC 16 днів тому

      W comment

    • @Dilla4life
      @Dilla4life 16 днів тому

      Indeed!!!

    • @LFiers
      @LFiers 15 днів тому +5

      Very true and well said but this is about AI potentially replacing talented artists, taking away any potential monetary earnings and devaluing the craft even more than it already is. Lots of people make a living off this. This will change that for a lot of people and more cooperations will own all creative processes, make the money of us while cutting out the nodde man. This is deeper than just about hobbyists.

    • @johncitizen8828
      @johncitizen8828 12 днів тому

      WORD

  • @cedricjoshuapayne
    @cedricjoshuapayne 18 днів тому +173

    "resistence is futile'. That's a fitting lyric for AI music.

    • @billyalarie929
      @billyalarie929 18 днів тому

      STOP. FUCK.

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 17 днів тому +2

      lol the robots will never show their hand like that so he had to write that one himself

    • @cedricjoshuapayne
      @cedricjoshuapayne 16 днів тому

      @@CantTellYou I figured as much. A little nod to Star Trek. Pretty dope, haha!

    • @wormsali
      @wormsali 15 днів тому +1

      Humans did it first lol

    • @MrHarmonicminor
      @MrHarmonicminor 14 днів тому +1

      And that was the tune I directed last night, in Udio. ua-cam.com/video/pWOkk8oVWnU/v-deo.html. The spoken vocal literally becomes more borgish as it progresses and the lyrics get darker. Top Tip: Don't teach one AI to direct another AI.

  • @NiElsir
    @NiElsir 18 днів тому +124

    As an artist, having spent a lot of my life playing, learning and trying to scratch out a living with music, this is extremely depressing and demotivating to see happen so quickly and without any real control. Ouch

    • @TeagueChrystie
      @TeagueChrystie 18 днів тому +16

      Or even pushback.

    • @usz1444
      @usz1444 18 днів тому +16

      don't be depressed. ai music is soulless

    • @lobotomyscam1051
      @lobotomyscam1051 18 днів тому +8

      It's depressing for a former musician and music lover, too.

    • @anthonyanderson9771
      @anthonyanderson9771 17 днів тому +8

      It may make live music and musicians more in demand. AI can't make pictures, videos, or anything without it feeling surreal, like a fantasy or daydream. It's so perfect that it breaks the suspension of disbelief after a few moments. Human beings telling human stories is what's always brought people together or sold, and will always bring people together or sell. The cheap backing tracks, illustration videos, and art that doesn't take the foreground belong to AI it seems. But did those things really make us money? I don't recall anyone in any field saying it made more than a meal or two honestly. People will want more or something else for their music, and musicians will be there to provide it. Keep the love.

    • @michaelsimpson9175
      @michaelsimpson9175 16 днів тому

      @@anthonyanderson9771 *not yet. Give it a year

  • @ramsey4630
    @ramsey4630 18 днів тому +86

    Use it to make loops. And clearance free samples. And go for what ya know. In fact it could be A win samples are expensive , lawsuits for everything. But sample based producers can really get off with it.

    • @powderedtoastfacekillah734
      @powderedtoastfacekillah734 17 днів тому +9

      Yeah you can definitely use it to your advantage

    • @MATALOMUSIC
      @MATALOMUSIC 16 днів тому +3

      Ooo that's a great idea!

    • @powderedtoastfacekillah734
      @powderedtoastfacekillah734 16 днів тому +21

      Metro Boomin just did this with “BBL Drizzy”
      He sampled and chopped an AI created song that was supposed to sound like a Motown song and released it today for people to rap over and diss Drake
      As soon as I heard the beat I thought of this comment

    • @anemoia5549
      @anemoia5549 15 днів тому +2

      But won’t people just use that as a prompt rather than the process of chopping and selecting?

    • @sebp400
      @sebp400 15 днів тому +1

      it's not as fun as real digging tbf, you're missing the excitment. it's too easy.

  • @browndamon
    @browndamon 18 днів тому +31

    Great, nuanced take. The career crossroads is here for everyone.

  • @gabriel.cashez
    @gabriel.cashez 18 днів тому +51

    There's something that Ai can't take away from us, and that's the process

    • @cmartin6109
      @cmartin6109 16 днів тому +2

      damn that was deep and so true. That baby need to birth

    • @gabriel.cashez
      @gabriel.cashez 16 днів тому

      @@cmartin6109 Fr

    • @samthesomniator
      @samthesomniator 15 днів тому +2

      Usually buyers don't want the process to be long. They don't enjoy it, it just raises the price. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 14 днів тому +1

      its cant take our enjoyment of making music away, but it can take that being a profession to ern a living from away from a huge percentage of people.

    • @enlighten3507
      @enlighten3507 12 днів тому +1

      Thank you. AI can't take away the joy of playing an instrument, ai can't take away The Flow that I get from singing, or hearing a particularly awesome moment of vocal greatness.

  • @exloopy
    @exloopy 18 днів тому +24

    The only real defense against AI is community. Music and other arts were born in our desires to celebrate, mourn, dance, and be in awe together. To explore what it is to be human WITH other humans. AI is a logical progression for the extraction algorithm that is capitalism, where lonely rich asshats want to find the easiest way to get richer.
    Your passion and conviction here is inspiring. Do what you love. Yeah, pay the bills however you have to, but above all keep rockin.

    • @TeagueChrystie
      @TeagueChrystie 18 днів тому +1

      🔥

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv 5 днів тому

      You’re speaking as if a human-created creative technology must be “defended” against. Won’t you be surprised in 8 years when there’s a golden age of incredible human music based on extremely talented human beings using AI tools to help them imagine a more unusual human domain.. then perform that music themselves. (That’s what i’m doing, and i’ve been a professional composer since the 90s.)
      Go ahead and downvote me. I guarantee you i’m right.

  • @MusicFromAnotherTime
    @MusicFromAnotherTime 18 днів тому +61

    As someone who just started taking guitar and singing lessons 6 months ago, I think I'm a tad fucked. That being said, I feel like live performances will become all that much more meaningful moving forward.

    • @broghad8241
      @broghad8241 18 днів тому +10

      Trying to start a rock band in 2024 was alr fucked, buddy. Rock is dead

    • @jr.jamesfuller9282
      @jr.jamesfuller9282 18 днів тому +3

      I think anything live and/or including humans will be a luxury experience!

    • @anachronismic
      @anachronismic 18 днів тому +3

      I mean if you're at lessons stage just focus on learning and improvement and the internal part of it! 6 months in you shouldn't be focused on making money from it imo

    • @lobotomyscam1051
      @lobotomyscam1051 18 днів тому +5

      Concentrate on writing good songs and don't get caught up in being the most technical player, because you will never win that battle.

    • @BoogieBoogsForever
      @BoogieBoogsForever 17 днів тому +1

      Yeah if you get good, live guitar shows will continue...

  • @ItsDeniseRenee
    @ItsDeniseRenee 10 днів тому +2

    As a creative (I’m a writer and a musician) I think the opportunity for us in the face of AI is to develop our audience and, to take it one step further, a community. The beauty about today is that with the tools available to us, such as Patreon or UA-cam memberships, you truly don’t need millions of people purchasing your album when it drops. Just a few hundred people supporting you with a five or $10 membership every month can help you create a sustainable income based on doing what you love. The truly human skill to get good at now is building an audience.

    • @flickwtchr
      @flickwtchr 4 дні тому

      How pathetic this is what millions have been reduced to by just a tiny fraction of people on the planet who develop this tech.

  • @KalebPeters99
    @KalebPeters99 18 днів тому +3

    Yess I'm so glad to get your take on this, I knew it would be sobering but nuanced.
    Keep it up, you're one of the best real humans on here! ❤

  • @KKAkuoku
    @KKAkuoku 18 днів тому +86

    Nice as a novelty.
    Frightening as a potential replacement for creativity.

    • @diggingthegreats
      @diggingthegreats  18 днів тому +13

      💯💯💯

    • @RedmotionGames
      @RedmotionGames 18 днів тому +29

      Based on a mass robbery of copyrighted material.

    • @lionizedjunkie
      @lionizedjunkie 18 днів тому +14

      I disagree. Most mainstream music lacks creativity anyway. AI won't replace the masterpieces, just the radio nonsense most of us ignore anyway. The most creative people will find ways to use AI to enhance their art, and create things we never could've imagined.

    • @Kanyewestbiggestfan123
      @Kanyewestbiggestfan123 18 днів тому +1

      Perfectly said

    • @verygoodfreelancer
      @verygoodfreelancer 18 днів тому +3

      the interesting thing about music and art is hearing experiences from another human, however artificial. when it’s entirely a computer there’s no communicating happening, just regurgitating.

  • @Subjective_JoshNelson
    @Subjective_JoshNelson 18 днів тому +2

    So cool you used some of the beat battle folk's material and credited them above. F**king love this, Brandon!

  • @PrincePresto1
    @PrincePresto1 16 днів тому +1

    Absolutely love your work. The details are everything. I’m an old record store owner from Little five points Atlanta Georgia and I love music in all forms and your channel has been the most favorite thing I’ve come across in the last week or so.

  • @JamesWeaver-vk3wz
    @JamesWeaver-vk3wz 18 днів тому +2

    Amazing video, Brandon. Really covered a lot of my thoughts on this AI stuff going on - I loved your takes and I hope to be as positive as you, even through these weird, changing times!

  • @aronannerwallelb2891
    @aronannerwallelb2891 18 днів тому +1

    Nice words in the end man! Keep up the good work🙌🏽

  • @tonematrix
    @tonematrix 8 днів тому +1

    Been enjoying your videos but didn't realize I'd get an inspirational pep talk to keep on keepin' on with my passion. Thank you!

  • @mrdarryljones1
    @mrdarryljones1 18 днів тому +5

    It’s not just AI that’s eliminating every “middle” everywhere. Insightful to say “ machines don’t need to make art”. Crazy video! 👍🏾

  • @johnplaystheguitar123
    @johnplaystheguitar123 15 днів тому

    This was an incredible video thank you. I've been messing around with Udio for the past week or so and it's amazing and scary. Your video is the best video I've seen on it so far.

  • @castlewild
    @castlewild 18 днів тому +3

    Such a good and important video. Thank you DTG!

  • @tristanotear3059
    @tristanotear3059 9 днів тому +4

    There’s much wisdom in this video. It’s too bad that AI is not used solely on things that can improve people’s lives in immediate and concrete ways, as in medicine or science. It never should have been dropped on culture, where it has been used to trivialize or destroy human creativity. But it’s beside the point that some AI art is “good.” We can’t ever forget that the human imperative is that art is an interaction between the human creator and that creator’s human audience. Remembering this helps me bounce right back in, say, a situation that you illustrate here that I might actually enjoy an AI-generated song. I can say, immediately, that the song is no longer good, and that is because it violates fundamental principles of the artist/audience relationship. I create music and poetry not so much because I want it to be “good,” in which circumstance I might be tempted to adopt a machine to make my decisions. I create in order to, well, create. And this is where AI becomes such a Faustian bargain: It is the antithesis of creativity.

    • @SineEyed
      @SineEyed 9 днів тому

      _"... art is an interaction between the human creator and that creator’s human audience."_
      No it's not. That's just crazy talk. There are no "fundamental principles" being violated for a relationship which doesn't exist..

    • @Michaelkaydee
      @Michaelkaydee 4 дні тому

      Nah... people simply need to embrace change and technological progress... a story as old as time... don't think of it as a replacement but as an additional tool just as many before its time were viewed

  • @FireyDeath4
    @FireyDeath4 6 днів тому +3

    The main thing you should be a tad bit concerned about is how AI has the potential to eventually become an experience machine. Everything that separates human mentality from AI can be applied to AI, and they will probably do eventually. If we make new things, those things will shortly no longer be new and special. Eventually AI will be able to generate things much more procedurally, deliberately and methodologically, and eventually it will be able to innovate all by itself, which worries people because of how you know the singularity's there once it can do that, and that signifies some loss of control for all of us even in containment :P

  • @neuronichangfire
    @neuronichangfire 14 днів тому

    Thank you for your words of encouragement. I’ve always been in awe of the minds that do what you and other artists produce. We take for granted the enjoyment of the finished product but don’t understand the depth of time and work to get there. This new technology challenges humanity to adapt, improvise, and overcome. It will be a battle. The artist that keep going will struggle, but those seeking the humanity in the art will be driven them.

  • @DojoOfCool
    @DojoOfCool 18 днів тому +4

    Excellent views going beyond the basic AI talk that's going on. Thanks for being human and making great videos.

  • @jackietunes
    @jackietunes 18 днів тому +1

    Thanks for lifting my spirit 🙏

  • @puvendranpillay8802
    @puvendranpillay8802 18 днів тому +46

    Captcha type BEAT bruv....

  • @kirkolsen
    @kirkolsen 16 днів тому

    I have been using AI as a collaborative tool for a while, and watching every video I can find on the subject. While the beginning of the video taught me nothing new, the last five minutes, the story of your life, and your thoughts on our relationship to AI, is the best I’ve seen. I take it to heart.

  • @CantTellYou
    @CantTellYou 17 днів тому

    You are so SO forgiven for using AI on the Midnight Marauders one lol
    That might be my favorite DTG video & I’m probably gonna replay it on a yearly basis

  • @rossmar4609
    @rossmar4609 18 днів тому +2

    Thank you so much for this video 🙏🏿

  • @dodgerlohiss2517
    @dodgerlohiss2517 18 днів тому +1

    That’s a great video and quite opening. I am a big fan of the UA-cam show on BPM called E.Y.L and the new theme slaps and Dr Jared Ball said that was all A.I!You are absolutely right and it could lead to greater creativity for producers who decide to stick around.Being good enough doesn’t cut it and there are a ton of techniques out there from learning music theory other than western school,old school electronic techniques,using fx in innovative ways and so on.Honestly, I am optimistic although A.I will keep being and better.Great great topic!!🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @dmug
    @dmug 18 днів тому +32

    Social proof like live demonstrations is going to be the future for art.
    I’m mostly been pretty negative about the AI creative space but there is potential, say I score a nice horns section, perhaps an AI assisted sampler could spit it out rendered with much better articulation instead of just using key switches and individual horns, and I could give it a few descriptive words to assist the tonality “late 1960s, tape, saturated, soul”.
    Also, the biggest hit so far from this service is “I glued my balls to my butt hole” so there’s that…

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 17 днів тому

      Yes!!! I glued my balls to my butt hole made me realize how a catchy song can be made very simply

    • @andrewsmith9440
      @andrewsmith9440 17 днів тому +6

      Most shows just have a computer or something playing a backing track anyway. Look at Taylor Swift whose midi controlled piano started playing itself early before she was sitting in front of it pretending to play the song. It's already all smoke and mirrors with live performances of music

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 17 днів тому +7

      @@andrewsmith9440 depends on who you go see live

    • @anthonyanderson9771
      @anthonyanderson9771 17 днів тому

      Hey Dmug, I hope you're good!
      Live has always been the way to make money anyway. Live is the human experience across genres and artforms. You can't escape the real world in real time.

    • @pierrebroccoli.9396
      @pierrebroccoli.9396 День тому

      @@the-engneer I remember walking in on a White Stripes set at a large festival, timed unbeknownst near the beginning and I had not heard them before, an hour later after the set was done, I walked out with great appreciation. Just like I did with Basement Jax and their set later in the evening. The vocalist Jazz Scatting over their DJing was great as were the rest of the musicians they had performing with them.
      There is live and then there is Live.
      I'm all for digital instruments in the process but not when tech is used to cover up one's lack of ability as a performer.

  • @lyleabrahams
    @lyleabrahams 12 днів тому +4

    Im a producer / beat maker/ engineer / mc / painter / illustrator / designer.... I have been doing this stuff for decades.... Ive been telling those that ask what will we do moving forward... and the only answer I have is paint / illustrate live (which I do).... and perform live (which I do). I hope there is something that is done moving forward where everything that is AI related HAS to be included in the art created.... from music. painting, stories, designing, fashion, film and so on. There needs to be something in place letting all people know what has been created by humans and what has been created by machines. Do it for the love homies... and pray the outcome leans in our favor. UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME

  • @lewjones3
    @lewjones3 18 днів тому +11

    I believe the best way to sell music now is to up charge it a lil bit, then offer something physical, with the digital download

    • @BoogieBoogsForever
      @BoogieBoogsForever 17 днів тому +3

      That would be wild if we get back to people buying records large scale.

    • @lewjones3
      @lewjones3 14 днів тому +1

      @@BoogieBoogsForever I agree...

  • @metadaat5791
    @metadaat5791 5 днів тому

    you're a legend :-) wish I could like this video more than once, especially the last part

  • @saximus81
    @saximus81 17 днів тому +3

    Brilliant take on this topic mate - love it. Only way forward is to embrace our humanity.
    People will still want to see what other humans do. As Norwegian producer Thomas Kongshavn puts it: "People still watch people playing chess, even with the knowledge a machine could beat them in no time" - loosely translated that one, but it is the best analogy I've seen so far.
    Cheers mate - keep up the good work - I'm off to prompt up some ridiculous loops for my sets🤟😄

  • @MontyHicks
    @MontyHicks 17 днів тому

    I LOVE your passion for music.

  • @thatguysince1974
    @thatguysince1974 18 днів тому

    sir...starting at 11:20...you're speaking directly to me.
    i needed this today.
    thanks.

  • @williamgeorge2580
    @williamgeorge2580 18 днів тому +1

    Aye. I've been saying all of this to my peers in the comic book/ nerd art fields and they've been absolutely refusing to listen. I'm glad someone in a different medium has seen what's happening and the shape of the road ahead. My departure point from you is that I'm pretty sure the tools will get good enough that no amount of levelling up will allow the "lower class" to compete for the few dollars still flowing around.

  • @tmbarral664
    @tmbarral664 15 днів тому

    that's the channel for me. So, so true. Brilliant job. again. ;)

  • @djse
    @djse 18 днів тому +7

    I recently had my first client asking me to rebuild an AI generated track (I'm doing ghost production, mostly edm), it gave me this weird feeling of being replaced, but at the same time asking myself "should I refuse the job or should I do it and take the money while I can (and kind of be ok with that) ?".
    Music made by people will never disapear, just like paint or photography, because people enjoy doing it, not even always for the result, but just the process. And I know I will always make music because I love doing it (even though its my job, I still doing it on the side as a hobby for my own project), but professionally, I'm not sure anymore, all the "make music for money" part will be replaced by those tool (it"s kind of already happening and the quality is not there yet; but it's not going to be worst than what it is today).
    Strange time to be alive, technology was supposed to replace the boring job, not the fun one :/

  • @nicolesherman8974
    @nicolesherman8974 18 днів тому

    Digging the Greats Friday… need something to watch lol 🔥🔥

  • @basedmerf
    @basedmerf 18 днів тому +1

    I started uploading 3x pers week last January. In the past year my hobby of making beats gradually started to make up more of my income. Looks like by next year it might be back to being fully a hobby again 😬. Mad timing, however i made beats before and i made beats after. Will just need to shift gears. In some sense greatful I didn’t get to the point i had more to lose before the ai stuff reached this point. Interesting time to be alive either way. Great video as always 🧡

  • @vanessaadams3500
    @vanessaadams3500 15 днів тому

    Very well said...thanks for keep' n it 💯

  • @At.mos.fEarProduktionz
    @At.mos.fEarProduktionz 18 днів тому +36

    I don't use AI to make music...but it is fascinating. Now the industry will get flooded with not so talented producers using AI how could one verify if the beat is generated rather than actually made by a person. Everyone will be doubted.

    • @JC20XX
      @JC20XX 18 днів тому +12

      We'll start screen recording our DAWs or sharing project files I guess? That doesn't sound so bad.
      Until those get generated too I guess 🤷‍♂️

    • @At.mos.fEarProduktionz
      @At.mos.fEarProduktionz 18 днів тому +4

      @@JC20XX scary… weird times.

    • @andrewsmith9440
      @andrewsmith9440 17 днів тому +2

      Sounds like a discussion in the teachers lounge, "how do we make sure the students aren't just copying and pasting from ChatGPT?" "Just give them a pen and paper and make them do all their work in front of you now."

    • @At.mos.fEarProduktionz
      @At.mos.fEarProduktionz 17 днів тому

      @@andrewsmith9440 that’s already happening. Kids have been called out for using AI to write reports.

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 17 днів тому

      @@JC20XX ​​⁠ lol I was gonna say, the “producer” using AI won’t have the multitrack session available to send over or edit / re-mix……. Yet, anyway..

  • @MattnUska
    @MattnUska 11 днів тому +2

    You said exactly what I have been thinking. I let my musical skills slack for several years but have been diligently working on them again. AI can regurgitate what we created in the past but it will never make something new. There will be plenty of people that will reject AI art. Those are the people that will be our audience. The mainstream has never cared about artists. We have to create for ourselves and music lovers. Not for people that passively listen to music.

  • @collins_channel8643
    @collins_channel8643 18 днів тому

    Great video man

  • @jamesdean5095
    @jamesdean5095 18 днів тому +1

    Thank you for this detailed take and demonstrating so clearly how we need to focus back on humans in the process. As you were breaking down the two paths forward for artists, I was thinking about what we need to do as a society. How can we advocate for and elevate human creativity and perspective. If creative industries are all about the quality of the output, then we're screwed. But if it's about the people behind the art, their stories and experiences, then we can continue to build human creativity.
    Also if I sign up for Patreon is there an extended, angrier, more man-yells-at-cloud version of that rant? Cause I need that in my life right now

  • @TimWrightDJ
    @TimWrightDJ 18 днів тому +1

    Regarding the class system, I'm a "lower class" artist. I came out of the music industry (as a producer) about 12 years ago but, during COVID, I returned to it, built a home studio I could only dream of (I had more disposable income since getting a "real job"), and started making music for fun and for myself. I've released several tracks and unofficial remixes over the past 4 years, one of which was signed to a great house label and even released on vinyl, and financially I made less than what I spent on getting the tracks mastered.
    As you say in the video, I'm one of those that makes music because it's something in me, and I enjoy doing it. This AI tool, and what will likely come next, will be something I utilise to create AI generated samples that I can use to split in a stem separation tool and then create the nu disco and disco-sampled house music I make, without worrying about artists suing me. I'm not a musician (although I'm learning) and this will give me sounds and ideas I can play with. Personally, I love it.

  • @PrincePresto1
    @PrincePresto1 16 днів тому

    Thank you for you deep dive digging 🤘🎧🤘

  • @johnc5258
    @johnc5258 4 дні тому

    The future of music is everyone making their own music. And if someone likes your music, that's a connection

  • @vega1925
    @vega1925 17 днів тому

    Great stuff mang

  • @Nickgulley
    @Nickgulley 18 днів тому

    Keep digging!

  • @ashtonsgotsauce9981
    @ashtonsgotsauce9981 18 днів тому +4

    remember when photography came around and expressionist/abstract work became the next big art movement? i feel like that a similar unintentional effect would happen with AI becoming more prominent in commercial art. unmistakably human art will become more popular. live performances? sculpting? thats me being as optimistic as possible while grounded in reality.

    • @flickwtchr
      @flickwtchr 4 дні тому

      Uh, "unmistakable human art" is being questioned on a daily basis.

  • @justinjones2595
    @justinjones2595 18 днів тому

    Appreciate your thoughts on AI as well

  • @ZestyKrisps
    @ZestyKrisps 18 днів тому +2

    I think it works becuase you still mold it and see what "accidently" creates "art" the deeper meaning of art not just "music" as noise to sell.

  • @TraxtasyMedia
    @TraxtasyMedia 18 днів тому

    great that you dig in the topic of AI music generating tools. I recently tested Suno and gave it the prompt to "create" me certain song in a certain genre and it pulled out a song very well leaned towards what I typed into it, so far so good, but when it comes down to mixing, it just gets even worse, due to the fact that it splashes the frequency ranges together and just sounds awkward. So if you seperate the audio tracks to stems there's a big chance that a filter ruins this completely. I had a song commision done by AI and I am tasked to do a well mixdown for this person, so here's my problem: my avaliable tools can't erase the filter used in the vocals to render a clean drum mix. I mean for insparational tasks like having a solid worked out drum sample or bass guitar sample, it works awesome, everything above gets really bad. So my opinion on this: don't prompt an AI to write a hit for you, it won't, because you'll have more work decompiling and analysing this thing deeper, than any rabbit hole, that exists on net.

  • @Frankenmuppet
    @Frankenmuppet 18 днів тому +6

    I'm reminded of your Random Access Memories video. AI may be able to create songs, but will they ever be able to tell a story over an entire album like the Robots did over a decade ago.

    • @paradogika5802
      @paradogika5802 15 днів тому

      easy i done it just use the same prompt style , or very similar and write the lyrics and you can come up with a whole album in very few days

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 14 днів тому

      But think of it this way the robots made one album and it was great, But AI can make a million, it's just a matter of finding that good one.

  • @enilenis
    @enilenis 3 дні тому +2

    I'm a musician who loves AI, despite it making my old techniques obsolete on the spot. I save time, so now, if a song doesn't work out, it no longer results in weeks of wasted effort. I can iterate. Start with just one rhyme and let AI give me plot and rhyme options. It's really just like working with a helper or a mentor. I guide AI and it guides me. We work hand in hand. Musicians are worried about the loss of revenue. And I was always worried about revenue from clips getting claimed over seconds of borrowed audio. 5 second song playback in a 10 minute video? All revenue goes to the audio owner. Is that fair? Nope. Now with AI I never have to rely on external tunes. I dress my own compositions now and my efforts get adequately rewarded. Sure, AI made my $100K recording studio virtually obsolete, but all I care about is the music, the mood and the messages I can convey. I don't care how it gets there. I don't care if it's recorded on tape, vinyl, in digital bits or whatever. I want to make more stuff within my limited lifespan and I'll use any help I can get, even if it's from an algorithm. Even if that algorithm takes away my job. I do not care. Getting paid to be an artist was always a silly idea to me. Art for money is not art. It's a commercial product and it's just been outcompeted by a freaking pitch-modulated speak-n-spell.

  • @KirtanFi
    @KirtanFi 11 днів тому

    Great video thanks man! ❤

  • @SayceBuckleyFreak
    @SayceBuckleyFreak 9 днів тому

    great video ! great presentation !

  • @analog-dEVA
    @analog-dEVA 18 днів тому +4

    I recently got a channel suggestion where it turned hip hop songs into 70s "classics" using AI...F*CKED ME UP!!!!!!! Definitely needed this perspective to validate the thoughts I've been having. It's a moral dilemma for me...

    • @Knick_Fury
      @Knick_Fury 17 днів тому

      Same here…my tl started suggesting these AI songs recently …the first time I encountered one, it took me a minute to figure it out…a 70’s soul tune…the lyrics were somewhere between cringe and offensive, which was the first clue and then the “cover art” failed on closer inspection. Afterwards, I started noticing even more of these fakes showing in the suggestions. What concerns me is why…I think we’re starting to get too dismissive of “the algorithm” as being JUST an “echo chamber”…when considering the possibility of something more intentional and manipulative, the combination of “the algorithm” and this particular type of AI is problematic.

  • @Kanyewestbiggestfan123
    @Kanyewestbiggestfan123 18 днів тому +64

    The music industry is cooked if AI keeps advancing at this rate

    • @freshestinclass763
      @freshestinclass763 18 днів тому +12

      It's technically not even a industry..it's a cool table not even elected by real people in the first place. It's been cooked... the food getting cold... why so many vultures if the talent over there?

    • @BoogieBoogsForever
      @BoogieBoogsForever 17 днів тому +2

      ​@@freshestinclass763What does this mean? Cool table? Why are there vultures if there's talnt?
      Is this translated?

    • @otakudesuka7376
      @otakudesuka7376 17 днів тому +1

      Have you seen this youtube video of Lupe Fiasco using Ai to assist him writting lyrics ? We are done. We are the last organic generation. But I am doing beats so if there is a Ai which could mix it well, I may try it for a minute.

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 17 днів тому

      I am curious though.. with the technology how it is at the moment, do similar prompts ever end up with very similar sounding “songs”?

    • @20thingsgoing62
      @20thingsgoing62 16 днів тому

      @@CantTellYouyes actually and its very revealing to what it was trained on. Take an abba lyric and point your prompt in a abba direction and you hear some strangely familiar things

  • @coldlyanalytical1351
    @coldlyanalytical1351 17 днів тому +4

    You are essentially saying that only the best-of the best can survive in the world of AI .. which means that the mediocre journeymen are doomed.
    I think that this applies to software developers and other domains too.
    That said, I doubt that we can stop all this, so major social changes lie ahead of us.

  • @slipbeat
    @slipbeat 18 днів тому

    20 hours total for just you, or 20 man-hours including your buddy Ace and some other folks (including any images or sounds you license from sites that provide that)? Are you a one man show for every component of these videos other than handmade text? If so, that's truly astonishing. I'm not trying to audit you, I just want to know how impressed to be. Thanks for the free content, been watching these from the start and I'm stoked your channel is blowing up so fast. Inspiring.

  • @AndrewDasilvaPLT
    @AndrewDasilvaPLT 16 днів тому

    I've been playing with udio for a few weeks some of the things it has made is insane.

  • @hiphopcongressnational
    @hiphopcongressnational 4 дні тому

    Thank you for this discussion! As a grassroots network of artists around the world we appreciate your breakdown(s) always!

  • @postmanpogger
    @postmanpogger 18 днів тому

    Thank you, dude

  • @odencore
    @odencore 18 днів тому

    Great video. Everything was well said. I hope that the positive of all this is that artists lean more into niche sounds and techniques to really stand out from the generic flood that's coming

    • @diggingthegreats
      @diggingthegreats  18 днів тому +1

      That’s why I’m hopeful - humans pushing their own boundaries to make something that’s never been made, on a level we’ve never seen 🔥

    • @odencore
      @odencore 18 днів тому

      @@diggingthegreats adversity into innovation🙌

    • @flickwtchr
      @flickwtchr 4 дні тому

      @@diggingthegreats And then AI will just replicate that as well. That's where this is all headed. I loathe the AI revolution.

  • @iancpowell
    @iancpowell 18 днів тому

    We were talking about mechanically generated music in 2001, and that I think at least on writing instrumental has been sort of a thing since the 30’s if I remember right. Electronic music history class in college. This current wave of stuff even goes back to the failed Microsoft song writer thing from about a decade ago, and Digitech’s trio pedal. It’s all a lot of gray area, and using things as tools to inspire the creation of human generated art should always win out over using a tool and not having it be transformative in a way that only a person who is thinking can do. Algorithms can only spit back what it understands we might want

  • @Remember-Death
    @Remember-Death 16 днів тому +1

    1:56 - Not gonna lie, that "Jazzy Hip Hop" made my mouth drop wide open.

  • @YoungFlav1
    @YoungFlav1 17 днів тому +2

    I like it, a creative person, this will make them more creative, but it's more to entertainment or being an artist than just music , aesthetics, passion, drive, stage presence, resilience, .....

  • @davido3109
    @davido3109 14 днів тому

    Thanks thanks thanks for this channel and for the video...
    No joke , very interesting conversation on ai...
    One year ago I was making illustration with ai... It was nice experience...
    Namaste Asewe Haribol!!!

    • @davido3109
      @davido3109 14 днів тому

      That beat was like Timbo beat? Wow... Kali Yuga
      Terminator is here???

  • @Darthimpakk
    @Darthimpakk 18 днів тому +7

    As a beatmaker that finds samples, chop samples and put in the work I find this a bit disheartening. On the other hand, I can see a bunch of "producers" and "beat makers" using this and claiming it as their own. Not gonna stop MY grind.

    • @oscard9429
      @oscard9429 День тому

      Sounds like it just made your job easier, I will definately be sampling my ai creations

  • @carcolevan7102
    @carcolevan7102 2 дні тому

    Your insight that AI music will be a force that increases income inequality among musicians seems spot on, yet your video is the first time I've heard that particular take on AI. You've given me something new to think about.

  • @planetmuskvlog3047
    @planetmuskvlog3047 10 днів тому +1

    I appreciate your video. You may be missing the boat on one essential point… I am sure I am not aline in this… I have prompted and written music using Ai that is meaningful, personal and specific to my life story, music that would never have come out like that prompted or curated by anyone other than me. How is THAT “not real music”. How can “not real music” pull tears out of me? Its real.

  • @pastense
    @pastense 18 днів тому +1

    One way I can see AI can help creatives is with the notorious writer’s block. Perhaps messing around with AI could help spark an idea. As great as AI can get, I highly doubt it’ll ever match human ingenuity. A tool is a tool. And using it wisely and effectively is key.

  • @Remember-Death
    @Remember-Death 16 днів тому +1

    @ 1:37 - I definitely sense a bit of A Tribe Called Quest/Q-Tip production.

  • @ABoyCalledRic
    @ABoyCalledRic 2 дні тому

    Great take!

  • @Guacamole1000
    @Guacamole1000 16 днів тому +3

    tbh the AI songs sounded really low fidelity like UA-cam videos uploaded in 2008 low bitrate type stuff. Not to say it isn’t still nuts that it can create whole songs out of natural language prompts, but I would never put that on even as “background” music. There’s too much other music in the world already available for free on the internet to listen to for me to want to sit down and listen to anything AI generated. Now if we’re talking AI generated crate digging ie, “Jazz song from the 1970s with soulful lyrics” and then chop that up for a royalty free foundation to a hip hop song that you produce the rest of, that could get interesting.
    Regardless, really cool video. What a weird time to be alive. People have been saying that forever but technology is actually mind blowing rn.

    • @pierrebroccoli.9396
      @pierrebroccoli.9396 День тому

      Even crate diving some 70's "Loft Classics" Disco would be great for chopping up. The instrumentation and improvisation was great.👍

  • @joannalewis5279
    @joannalewis5279 10 годин тому

    Brilliant take

  • @woodch
    @woodch 18 днів тому +27

    I think this is a great tool for any musician stuck with writer's block. You throw some song ideas in there, maybe give it some genre hints, see what it spits out, and then use that as inspiration for your own song.
    It doesn't hurt that it can be loads of crazy fun to just mess with, too.

    • @raptor6053
      @raptor6053 18 днів тому +8

      Nah honestly, I don’t see listening to ai generated music will make me inspired or give me any new ideas or motivation

    • @lobotomyscam1051
      @lobotomyscam1051 18 днів тому +3

      nah

    • @SquareWaveHeaven
      @SquareWaveHeaven 17 днів тому +2

      As someone who suffers writer's block from time to time, I realize that's simply my mind's way of telling me to refill the well. This march towards "more production" has to have an end point. The world doesn't need 900000000 new musics every day.

    • @sebp400
      @sebp400 15 днів тому +1

      @@raptor6053 I could play you band songs I generated last week to try Udio and they sound like real bands.

    • @raminbeatz
      @raminbeatz 12 днів тому +1

      Why not just listen to real music in this case instead of this Ai shit? Where’s the benefit?

  • @JvariW
    @JvariW 15 днів тому +1

    The jazz rap beef with a little ‘funkiness’ here and there was perfect. An artist will take that, tweak it, and use the ‘offness’ as a feature. Jazz is perfect because as long as it’s in key and syncopated it’ll work. The artist just needs to make sure their cadence is consistent enough that the listener knows it’s intentional

  • @blairelton
    @blairelton 15 днів тому +1

    “If it’s out of the bag then it’s out of the bag. And that is a powerful cat.” Aesop Rock

  • @cucciolo182
    @cucciolo182 2 дні тому

    Thanks to your video, I just saw the future. Pioneer + AI music LLM + the voice recognition feature (GPT-5)

  • @zaph1rax
    @zaph1rax 9 годин тому

    There are bound to be some musical equivalents to six fingers, hands, extra limbs, and impossible positures, etc. That's part of the charm of working with AI; you can work around these problems with experience.

  • @TheRealNativeSun
    @TheRealNativeSun 5 днів тому

    This is how BBL Drizzy was made. 😂. I kept seeing content creators make stuff like “Sexy Redd 70s version” now it makes sense. The secret is out. Thank you brother!

  • @leronharrison1110
    @leronharrison1110 18 днів тому

    Would love to see you collaborate with your friend in the LA Phil and draw on your days playing classical bass while bringing your bass playing and beat making together.

  • @gaysasuke5618
    @gaysasuke5618 18 днів тому +3

    Ignore these idiots telling you to delete the content because its Ai, we need to be informed and you're the perfect person to tell us. Silencing a voice is never the answer, we must enter the abyss lest it swallow us whole.

    • @TeagueChrystie
      @TeagueChrystie 18 днів тому +2

      I'm saying delete the walkthroughs and product demos. We can talk about AI - I agree with you: we must, it's the approaching abyss - but that doesn't mean we have to comply with it in advance.

  • @charlieerekuff2334
    @charlieerekuff2334 6 днів тому

    Good stuff man

  • @MrHizman
    @MrHizman 18 днів тому +1

    Been working closely with AI and few things are very quickly becoming apparent. The human element will be required in some form, be it in critical thinking or truely innovative creativity. Some jobs are going to go...that is a given. However, new jobs are going to be created in every industry as a result of AI (think of electric cars.... traditional mechanics may demise but new software jobs, car electricians jobs are being created). You are spot on the music industry is going to change and it is also really important to level up. I would also add it is also important to level up with AI and understand what it can do and what it can't. Find out which jobs are going to disappear, which will change and require new skills and which jobs are going to be created. As longs as individuals are ready to be flexible and upskill themselves, they will be fine in this brave new world.

    • @mach489i
      @mach489i 18 днів тому +1

      Upskill. The point is AI doesnt require any skill of the end user

    • @MrHizman
      @MrHizman 17 днів тому +1

      Like I said, I have been working closely with AI for work and upskilling is essentially. Due to AI, I needed to up my Python programming, learn about a whole bunch of regression models and visit various boot camps to ensure that I could determine when AI models are providing correct information. According to the world economic forum, jobs in Data Science and Data analytics are going to grow massively due to AI, while other clerical jobs will slowly disappear as AI can do them more accurately and quickly. AI is not the only disruption either. Green and sustainable technology industries are growing too so there is going to be changes there too with an increase in demand for civil engineering jobs.

  • @vas8203
    @vas8203 11 днів тому

    The neo soul rough on was actually crazy trippy in a good way lol

  • @dcraigcorbett
    @dcraigcorbett 15 днів тому

    Your concluding remarks evolved from presenting sage music advice into expressing a positive approach to life in general.

  • @prettypoet08
    @prettypoet08 18 днів тому

    Great video

  • @ShawnWhiteMusic
    @ShawnWhiteMusic 18 днів тому +2

    Ngl that "jazzy hip hop" @ 1:57 sounds pretty good

    • @PiriakaTrackwrecker
      @PiriakaTrackwrecker 17 днів тому +2

      Have a go at it, it nails pretty much any genre you wanna throw at it, from fingerpicking folk, through to UK Garage and Dnb. It's uncanny. The odd dud, but you can always regenerate it, and odds are it will have a good crack within a few attempts.

  • @J.Whiting
    @J.Whiting 17 днів тому

    Amen to the epilogue!

  • @JulianLuckeeSouth
    @JulianLuckeeSouth 3 дні тому

    Damn son that was real talk. Love your attitude - and no AI gonna have that human mana for a long time or ever is my guess. Jury still out on that
    (please don't send the T1000s to eliminate my doubting ass future robot overlords)

  • @pickD4prez
    @pickD4prez 17 днів тому +1

    You we're super simple with the prompts. You can add endless tags to it & I haven't had nearly as many bad ones. I tried all sorts of genres, even complex unorthadox stuff & it did good probably 85% of the time.

  • @mammoo93
    @mammoo93 15 днів тому

    This makes me appreciate records that much more.
    This AI music generator is going to be great for finding copyright free samples. Made to order, really.

  • @thebookofive
    @thebookofive 18 днів тому +15

    >Drop a comment with your thoughts on this.
    Techbros will be the end of us all.

    • @ultimadum7785
      @ultimadum7785 16 днів тому

      I think techbros gonna tech no matter what, the real problem is the major label oligopoly getting huge dollar signs in their eyes after they realize they can no longer have the "burden" of paying AN ACTUAL HUMAN ARTIST to make music for them.

    • @samson7842
      @samson7842 14 днів тому

      They’ve always wanted to do this. Going back to the 2000’s. They hate how we can make one song and get paid in to perpetuity every time that song gets played or a copy is sold.
      I remember getting into huge arguments with the guy who owned Techdirt about it. I think his name was Mike Messniak or something like that. I stopped posting there because every time I’d dismantle one of his “music wants to be free” arguments, my posts would miraculously disappear. … lol
      Jokes on them, now. Because AI will be taking coding jobs away, too. They didn’t see that one coming.

    • @thebookofive
      @thebookofive 14 днів тому

      @@samson7842 I like how the argument is framed around "music wants to be free", but totally disregards that the system isn't built for that.
      Personally, I don't have a gripe with ordinary people in tech (even if some of them like AI or capitalism too much), because at the end of the day they're a part of the working class as well, my problem is with the company CEOs and Execs who will not be affected and who are the ones actually benefiting from the whole thing

  • @PiriakaTrackwrecker
    @PiriakaTrackwrecker 17 днів тому

    I had a good play with Udio, it's pretty damn impressive. Great hooks, harmonies and grooves, at least when it gets it right. Honestly the songs I made got solidly lodged in my brain for a week or two. It's not so great for arrangement, or at least I couldn't figure out the prompts for repeating chorus'. I've been seriously weighing up sampling them, or at least properly arranging them. But I'm stuck on the No Music made by No People thing, it's a real headscratcher.
    Across a variety of genres it totally nailed it, total bangers, with amazing musicality (at least for No Musicians!), and only a few were properly identifiable as borrowing from artists, predominantly the hiphop tracks. Some of the vocals sound a bit slurred too, and when it just sings gobbledegook it's pretty hilarious.
    Weaver Beats (where I first heard about Udio) has a video where he's identified some blatant copying, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's largely pulling on copywrited music, but it's such a vexed area!