ATTN: Square Enix. We need to talk about your "Harassment Policy".

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  • @sungrandstudios
    @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +527

    Was THIS on your Bingo Card for January 2025?

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 14 днів тому +20

      Bingo 6th bankruptcy card 😂

    • @ChaoticHoly
      @ChaoticHoly 14 днів тому +13

      Sadly, yes.

    • @Hareemakun
      @Hareemakun 14 днів тому +8

      Somehow yes.

    • @benrichardson8029
      @benrichardson8029 14 днів тому +11

      No but on my Bingo card it says you will reach over 100k subscribers!

    • @another1118
      @another1118 14 днів тому +7

      hmm, Nintendo will be next :3 on sue

  • @SP_TOOP
    @SP_TOOP 14 днів тому +927

    Ubisoft: I’m on the brink of bankruptcy.
    Square Enix: Hold my beer.

    • @user-if9pp4vg7g
      @user-if9pp4vg7g 14 днів тому +9

      They make way too much money off ff14 for that to happen.
      edit: I get it guys, ff14 isn't enough on its own my bad.😂😂

    • @airiksknifereviews9548
      @airiksknifereviews9548 14 днів тому +19

      "Hold my Budlight"

    • @Corrderio
      @Corrderio 14 днів тому

      @@user-if9pp4vg7g I dunno. A lot of people are tired of Yawntrail and there's a good chance they'll drop below 1M concurrent players soon.

    • @microplasticdiffusion
      @microplasticdiffusion 14 днів тому +14

      Square always finds a way to crash towards bankruptcy before they somehow pull themselves out of the hole

    • @AsaelTheBeast
      @AsaelTheBeast 14 днів тому

      @@user-if9pp4vg7g They actually had to sell a bunch of IP's to remain solvent just a couple months ago.
      In other words- no, they can totally bungle it even with what is effectively a money printer.

  • @Metalhawk182
    @Metalhawk182 14 днів тому +728

    Careful Square Enix, your next game may be your Final Fantasy.

    • @karamjnah976
      @karamjnah976 14 днів тому +39

      i see what you did there

    • @anotherbacklog
      @anotherbacklog 14 днів тому +20

      Let’s hope they can finish the ff7 remake at least

    • @akr12877
      @akr12877 14 днів тому +26

      Most of the people who made FF great already left. Future FF games are completely cooked.

    • @Synfuls
      @Synfuls 14 днів тому +31

      @@anotherbacklog Think you mean FF7 REWRITE because it's not the og story and from what I hear the second part has multiverse BS in it. Bought the first one collectors edition. disappointed they started telling a different story with it(also 3 parts across 3 generations of game console, and the random $50 DLC a few months after the launch) so I didn't bother with intergrade or part 2, May sail the high seas for it idk yet. After seeing this possible lawsuit bs it may not even be worth my time. Grew up with a lot of square soft (Tactics, FF1-10, tactics etc, Legend of dragoon, jade cocoon, etc)

    • @vincentgraymore
      @vincentgraymore 14 днів тому

      @@Synfuls Yea it is "multiple realities" within the lifestream crap. Literally characters alive that should be dead, multiple versions of people (even if we go by dead people being in the different worlds, Elmyra and Marlene are, as an example, existing in both the "terrier" and the "beagle world", and the party being killed or at least unconscious in the terrier world). Btw the "beagle" world is the one we play in remake and the terrier world is the initial one with Zack created at the end of remake (there are like 7 worlds yet revealed and like 5 of those have Zack). A lot of people see this as interesting. I see it as pure garbage. ops I guess I am on SE naughty list now.

  • @KiraCoil
    @KiraCoil 14 днів тому +715

    This was an absolutely mental PR move. This kind of policy gives activist community reps the kind of power that lends itself to abuse and destroys what good faith a company has left.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +104

      It was not very good from them, was it?

    • @KiraCoil
      @KiraCoil 14 днів тому +38

      I learned to read playing old Squaresoft games. They have broken my heart, Sir.

    • @Dieci-9
      @Dieci-9 14 днів тому +28

      Exactly and, given the kinds of behaviors these people have when you give them power, it's not even a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 14 днів тому +15

      @@KiraCoil That company is long gone. It has been a downward spiral ever since Hironobu Sakaguchi left and Squaresoft became Square-Enix.

    • @yhariberg
      @yhariberg 14 днів тому +5

      We have started a Retro FF marathon. We are good for a few months

  • @thatHARVguy
    @thatHARVguy 14 днів тому +194

    "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."
    -George R.R. Martin, A Clash of Kings

    • @PherPhur
      @PherPhur 13 днів тому +1

      Yea I mean lets be fair, they could just be real depressed and troubled about what people might say, not that it goes against some malicious plan they have, or that their ego is too fragile.
      But the community should be the ones to determine and take care of this. And they do, if you're out here baselessly or real aggressively attacking stuff, people step in, and they don't let that stuff slide usually. But if it does have some merit, and people are just a bit salty... well... you just gotta accept that for what it is.

    • @dra6o0n
      @dra6o0n 11 днів тому +1

      The threat interactive discord server imploded cuz the owner mass banned everyone, I assume is a mental breakdown.

    • @onojioboardwalk9748
      @onojioboardwalk9748 7 днів тому

      @sungrand studios - YOU remain calm, full of apathy - When whats needed from others who know better is to actually TRY something that WORKS. Not just doing nothing while the left goes to claim EVERYTHING. We do not give respect to the wicked, & We KNOW that gaming like other things are NOT ''For everyone.''

  • @Mike138Todd
    @Mike138Todd 14 днів тому +1000

    So many people want respect and empathy.. but seem rarely able to give it.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 14 днів тому

      The whole foundation of the activists' worldview is based on hypocrisy. They demand acceptance while trying to exclude others. They claim to be against prejudice while being prejudice themselves. They claim to love science while ignoring scientific findings. They claim to love democracy while demonizing people who vote differently from them.

    • @NorthpoleShuffle
      @NorthpoleShuffle 14 днів тому +9

      Odd habit, that one...

    • @The_Primary_Axiom
      @The_Primary_Axiom 14 днів тому

      I’ve never seen Square once say anything negative to gamers. Isn’t this a Japanese company ? I have yet to see them once get online and attack gamers or argue with them. Why are people so against square ? What have they done that’s so bad? I also don’t understand the controversy. Do you know how many companies here in the US ban people every day for saying negative things when they are on line? Hundreds of people get banned every day on call of duty. Literally every Microsoft multiplayer game bands people. Every western life service game, bands people. But all of a sudden it’s controversial of square does it? I don’t understand.

    • @Sonic8577
      @Sonic8577 14 днів тому +32

      @@NorthpoleShuffle Tony Soprano: Those who want respect give respect.

    • @The_Primary_Axiom
      @The_Primary_Axiom 14 днів тому

      I don’t understand this controversy. Doesn’t Microsoft and so many western companies do the same thing inside of their game? I’m sure hundreds of people today alone got banned in call of duty. Every live service western game bans people for this stuff

  • @geekmastermind
    @geekmastermind 14 днів тому +87

    If there "may" be overreach, there absolutely *will* be overreach. Every time.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +29

      Exactly. That's the problem with setting this precedent the way they did.

  • @noahspencer7012
    @noahspencer7012 14 днів тому +594

    This is not an anti-harassment policy, this is an anti-criticism policy to silence anyone who speaks ill of them. Also suing and threatening to sue consumers is a good way to get kicked out of storefronts like Steam (as Digital Homicide Studios can attest). But hey, if they are still pushing NFT's in 2025, then why not push anti-consumer practices as well?

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 14 днів тому +45

      And there is plenty to criticize about Square. Every few months, they have some kind of massive blunder. That's what happens when the company is run by self-indulgent leads who are all leaning on accomplishments from decades prior and take nearly a decade to put together a garbled mess of a game (Guess who I'm talking about!)

    • @uservenny84
      @uservenny84 14 днів тому

      This is absolutely an anti-harassment policy.
      You do realize that's legal asscovering against Japanese schizos, right? East Asia as a whole has a problem with consumers freaking the fuck out and either breaking into office buildings or sending bomb/terror threats (KyoAni-style), multiple gacha devs have had similar incidents in the past couple of years. That policy is the same shit idol companies like Cover have to protect their personnel. That's why it has the "trespassing" and "advance notice of wrongdoing" clauses.
      Do some research before jumping on bandwagons.

    • @microplasticdiffusion
      @microplasticdiffusion 14 днів тому +16

      Square has put out some amazing games and has a lot of beloved properties, but over time they've just gotten worse, especially their management and executives.

    • @XCodes
      @XCodes 14 днів тому +8

      @@microplasticdiffusion Square is a strange company and you gotta find out who actually manages Square games to get insight into whether they're any good or not. There are some great producers with great studios at the company who have clearly strong-armed the idiot suits into leaving them alone because those few studios are carrying the whole-ass company, but the idiot suits DO still mess with the other, less prestigious studios and ruin a bunch of projects because they barely have the self-awareness to leave those few ace producers alone.

    • @gloweye
      @gloweye 14 днів тому +8

      OTHER anti-consumer practices. NFT's already count as one of those.

  • @gloweye
    @gloweye 14 днів тому +32

    "You have unknowingly used marginalized people as a shield."
    Wow, that's a lot of optimism right there. That they didn't know, I mean.

    • @skizzoidsgames1188
      @skizzoidsgames1188 14 днів тому +3

      yeah company throws people under the moving train... oh shit was that a moving train we didn't know

  • @JClark840
    @JClark840 14 днів тому +1556

    I hereby ban myself from future purchases of square enix games.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +227

      We got banned.

    • @williamyoung9401
      @williamyoung9401 14 днів тому +60

      Square is looking to sell, too. They're on the verge themselves. If you look at their upcoming titles, you'll see why.

    • @WildWildWeasel
      @WildWildWeasel 14 днів тому

      ​@@williamyoung9401 Maybe that's good, they finally get what they deserve

    • @IKvASS
      @IKvASS 14 днів тому +41

      Its crazy, because they are sitting on some of the best IP's. Would love to see remake of Vagrant Story.
      At this point I am hoping they would sell and someone is a better steward of their games.

    • @grwnganzon7873
      @grwnganzon7873 14 днів тому +40

      Just pirate it, there are some good games there.

  • @Coconut-219
    @Coconut-219 14 днів тому +129

    If they thought FF7 Rebirth "sold poorly", then they're in for a very *fun* time with what all their future sales figures are about to be...

    • @MaxLittleBuddy
      @MaxLittleBuddy 14 днів тому +16

      They were expecting FF7R1 or FF15's number. PS5 is holding their back
      They didn't know people who have PS4 mostly just switched to PC when they couldn't buy PS5 at MSRP (it was like $1000 from the scalpers in 2020) + currently $80 a year just to go online

    • @pawnzrtasty
      @pawnzrtasty 14 днів тому +19

      ⁠people will consume the slop. There are tons of UA-camrs saying ff7 rebirth is their game of the year for 2024. Seems I’m the only one talking smack about that boring bloated game.

    • @renatoramos8834
      @renatoramos8834 14 днів тому

      ​@@MaxLittleBuddythe product being garbage holds it back more than anything.

    • @casual1118
      @casual1118 14 днів тому +6

      ​@@pawnzrtasty dont get me wrong i dont think any game is perfect, but im personally enjoying it. Havent finished it yet, there is a lot to do. Its really the only games i get from them, and ff16 isnt that great of a point in the series

    • @pawnzrtasty
      @pawnzrtasty 14 днів тому +3

      @ everyone has their own opinions. It should’ve been shorter. The maps are big with very little to do besides fetch quests. And whoever created the piano mini game needs to be fired! Lmao it’s not horrible I’ll give you that it’s probably because I grew up playing the old games.

  • @yendayo
    @yendayo 14 днів тому +258

    "Do not ask question, just consume!"

    • @CommDante
      @CommDante 14 днів тому +18

      Or as the meme / original quote goes:
      "Do not criticize product and just consume product. Then get excited for next product."

    • @tomaka121
      @tomaka121 14 днів тому +1

      Jay Bauman approves this comment

    • @skyuru
      @skyuru 11 днів тому +1

      Thats what even Capcom think about their customers.

  • @m.d.bishop4435
    @m.d.bishop4435 14 днів тому +85

    If I don't buy their games, I wont have anything to 'harass' them about. Problem solved!

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial 14 днів тому

      Bold of you to think they can't sue you for refusing to buy their product due to your discriminatory sexist nazism.

    • @skizzoidsgames1188
      @skizzoidsgames1188 14 днів тому +4

      yup

    • @phantom-ow4uf
      @phantom-ow4uf 9 днів тому +1

      That was very well stated. Thank you.

  • @AppleInk
    @AppleInk 14 днів тому +478

    The moment I heard about Squenix doing even more stupid stuff, I knew the suit would come soon after. It's like the Batman of game customers.

    • @ilari90
      @ilari90 14 днів тому +5

      was coming to comment section to say "suit is on" but you said it better.

    • @krissis00
      @krissis00 14 днів тому +9

      The Suit Man has been summoned. All hail the Suit Man

  • @SheonEver
    @SheonEver 14 днів тому +45

    This is the direction we're moving in -- corporations want to be legally above consumer criticism.

    • @RozeVermillion
      @RozeVermillion 14 днів тому +11

      They want to be feudal lords that rule over the peasants, in my opinion. 'Be quiet and consume what we tell you to, or else'. That or a legal mafia.

    • @9tailedyokai
      @9tailedyokai 14 днів тому

      So companies want a cyberpunk dystopia, I mean, I should be shocked, but I'm not shocked at all, greedy corpos will do anything to get their benjamins

    • @orga7777
      @orga7777 13 днів тому

      @@RozeVermillion The dangerous ones are a legal mafia at this point. Banking and investment firms like BR being the biggest mafias of them all.

  • @arthurchu4491
    @arthurchu4491 14 днів тому +181

    Square Enix: Customers' feedback is essential.......for us to sue them.

  • @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775
    @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775 14 днів тому +36

    Dear Square Enix,
    I have enjoyed your games, know that you carry the torch after the merger of Square Soft and Enix. Final Fantasy 1-9, Einhander, the Mana series, Paladin's Quest (Enix), the Front Mission games, so many to list that I love. You are the one of the number one companies I go to when it comes to story driven titles.
    But, the situation with this Harrasment Policy is ambigious and open to inneuendo. It can force your very customers into a defensive route, many that would never want to buy your products because they can likely be removed from any board that you deem as "Unsafe." There is no room to critique. There is no room to complain. It reduces your customers into one that will either pay for your product or not at all. There would be no room to figure out why, your customer base shrinks day by day, while the games never get fixed or adjusted. it leads to one of the most destructive concepts that affects companies, Toxic Positivity.
    Want to see an example of Toxic Positivity? Look at Ubisoft. Each day, the developers continued to make a product. Some know the game is flawed, but to criticize it, is one that can get you fired. The financiers see that charging customers +$100 for a game was too expensive, but they can't say anything. The consumers complain, but are silenced, harrased, or shoved out of the boards because the game is supposed to be perfect. Review boards give high praise as the game they play for 30 minutes is nothing more than a broken mess. Stockholders are fed lies, thinking that something they invest will result in reward only to watch their shares reduced to toilet paper. Eventually, Ubisoft can't figure out why their company faces bankruptcy as the very thing, the most important thing is lost: their consumers.
    Always remember that the customer is always right. A complaining customer is one that has some vested interest in your product. They can still buy what you make, but the worst type of customer is one that walks by and never buys your product. The customer is the foundation for buisness.

    • @linkimpark1
      @linkimpark1 14 днів тому +1

      "Always remember that the customer is always right." - in matters of taste, yeah. not in actual harassment. but yeah, their policy includes weird stuff like "denial of personality"(??) and "persistent inquiries". it's stupid.

    • @michaeldehart3253
      @michaeldehart3253 8 днів тому +2

      You used a whole lot of words to say “piss off.” In all seriousness, the people that made of the majority of their greatest games are long gone. People make great games, not a logo. I completely agree with your well written assessment.

    • @1Manimation1
      @1Manimation1 17 годин тому

      "customer is always right" is not the moral of this story. as someone who worked in retail, this moto is garbage. what you should've used is "take criticism".

  • @gnouhp004
    @gnouhp004 14 днів тому +603

    Hire DEI consultant -> make their own DEI department -> Toxic Positivity -> Suing Customer

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +135

      Weird flow chart. I wonder why so many companies are following that.

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 14 днів тому +35

      I think you missed the "Suing Customer->Bankruptcy" portion. To be fair, there can be a number of steps between, but we all know where this is going from historical examples aplenty.

    • @Flamberg7
      @Flamberg7 14 днів тому +10

      @@Sorain1 It's VERY big company, so they can tank a lot of reputation damage. And if they not 100% dumb, maybe (just MAYBE) they will learn from that mistake and do something right)

    • @TheNefastor
      @TheNefastor 14 днів тому +13

      ​@Flamberg7 "too big to fail" huh ? Well I see that as a challenge.

    • @CazaliEiben
      @CazaliEiben 14 днів тому +18

      @@Flamberg7 They have proven not to learn.
      Them trying to hide the interview with the Dragon Quest creators criticizing DEI policies of the West is proof that they don't even WANT to learn.

  • @AtlasNight
    @AtlasNight 9 днів тому +12

    With Square Enix's new harassment policy, this is just going to make people even madder and harass them even more I have Never Seen A Company want to lose Business so bad financially they can't sue and go after every customer for saying bad stuff to them they will go bankrupt paying lawyers and lawyers are not cheap 🤣😂.

  • @AlanQuaker-es9nz
    @AlanQuaker-es9nz 14 днів тому +287

    This channel is a beacon of integrity for the industry. We appreciate what u are doing Sir🙌 God bless u all.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +51

      Thank you. Let's make our voices heard in the games industry.

    • @uservenny84
      @uservenny84 14 днів тому

      You do realize that's legal asscovering against Japanese schizos, right? East Asia as a whole has a problem with consumers freaking the fuck out and either breaking into office buildings or sending bomb/terror threats (KyoAni-style), multiple gacha devs have had similar incidents in the past couple of years. That policy is the same shit idol companies like Cover have to protect their personnel. That's why it has the "trespassing" and "advance notice of wrongdoing" clauses.
      Do some research before jumping on bandwagons. Integrity my ass.

    • @yorkipudd1728
      @yorkipudd1728 14 днів тому +1

      Indeed. Chivalrous.

    • @AdrianGrave
      @AdrianGrave 13 днів тому +1

      careful don't jinx it..

    • @AlanQuaker-es9nz
      @AlanQuaker-es9nz 13 днів тому

      @@AdrianGrave Ignorant.

  • @montyabbas6619
    @montyabbas6619 14 днів тому +19

    Worst part is there is no NEED for dei

  • @thejcxshow4426
    @thejcxshow4426 14 днів тому +171

    The problem with Square Enix and any other game studios is that, they are not just losing gamers, they just losing customers, and mostly RESPECT from us gamers.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +30

      That's right. They are really destroying the respect their customers had for them.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 14 днів тому +11

      They've been losing my respect for years now due to their massive disappointments disguised as video games (FF7 Rebirth might be the worse modern JRPG I've ever played)

    • @ariefwijaya7868
      @ariefwijaya7868 14 днів тому +1

      @@sungrandstudios and what about some shippers who attacking ,harrassing, sending death threats to ffvii devs?

    • @Acuas
      @Acuas 14 днів тому +6

      @@ariefwijaya7868 As said, there is always bad apples on the trees, but you don't take down the whole tree because there is a few bad apples.

    • @mac19999x
      @mac19999x 14 днів тому +2

      @@ariefwijaya7868 what about them? Make your point and stop hiding behind vague questions.

  • @ZeoHidra
    @ZeoHidra 14 днів тому +24

    Naughty Dog, Rocksteady, Square Enix, how many more companies that I loved will be corrupted by the vocal minority that claims to be the "modern audience"? 😢

    • @lemming9984
      @lemming9984 14 днів тому +5

      Geurilla, Sucker Punch...the list grows ever larger.

    • @acewolfgang276
      @acewolfgang276 14 днів тому +5

      CDPR as well

    • @SilverSidedSquirrel
      @SilverSidedSquirrel 13 днів тому +1

      pro tip: love the game, not the company

    • @rremnar
      @rremnar 11 днів тому +3

      @@SilverSidedSquirrel You may love the game, but doing business with the company you hate only rewards their behavior.

  • @burnttoast26
    @burnttoast26 14 днів тому +155

    The unfortunate thing is that, because of JP defamation law, the execs probably *do* consider criticism harassment

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH 14 днів тому +31

      If they like to take western principles like the woke and DEI maybe they should learn that freedom of expression is also one of them.
      Personally hearing from a corporation "you can't criticize us" i think is a joke. I was gonna buy Rebirth but no more, i am black listing all their games and am still gonna criticize them. What are they gonna do. Ban me from games i don't play?

    • @rustedemotions
      @rustedemotions 14 днів тому +11

      Its to protect the rich mostly and there companies

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 12 днів тому

      People think the US is bad... It is, but Japanese consumer law is extremely draconian.

  • @jeremygonzal8603
    @jeremygonzal8603 14 днів тому +7

    I really like his approach here. He's not being snarky and witty with his opinion. Instead, he dresses up properly and talks formally and respectfully addressing his concerns and even stating this is directed to Squenix. This is a video that executives would not be ashamed to watch and consider unlike so many opinionated pieces making a show of how "stupid" their decisions are and mocking them. And this is all very much on brand because I don't remember him on any video getting unhinged for whatever reason.
    Good show, ol' chap.

  • @RunaE37B
    @RunaE37B 14 днів тому +224

    If it was not enough companies insulting customers, they are threatening too. Just wow...

    • @kesamek8537
      @kesamek8537 14 днів тому +5

      You don't think you live in China, but you do.

    • @erinkemp1004
      @erinkemp1004 12 днів тому

      And there's some people who threaten some gaming companies. So, think a little about why this is being taken

    • @ghb323
      @ghb323 10 днів тому +1

      You don’t want customers? Ok, we no longer your customers.

  • @ericneo2
    @ericneo2 14 днів тому +15

    It's obvious to everyone that this policy's sole purpose is to allow Square-Enix to silence people who are not going to like their upcoming DEI changes in games. They want to release games like forespoken and silence reviewers and online talk about how bad the game is under this policy.

    • @skizzoidsgames1188
      @skizzoidsgames1188 14 днів тому +5

      again I really want them to start suing youtubers because they will have no legal ground will spend a bunch of money and become fiercely hated, probably more than ubisoft

  • @jlindien8972
    @jlindien8972 14 днів тому +97

    They really are digging their own grave.

  • @janematthews9087
    @janematthews9087 13 днів тому +4

    The way harassment works in Japan is: ",It doesn't matter whether what you say is true or false, if we deem what you say negatively impacting our reputation, then we will treat your criticisms as harassments"
    No seriously, there is no concept of fair and balanced criticism over there. You either praise stuff over there or you grab a mask, a voice modulator and a burner account and start criticising there.
    Japan has no concept of free speech

    • @BigSneed404
      @BigSneed404 11 днів тому

      If they want to approach the Western market, than they will have to make concessions to appeal to our way of life. The West is a punitive-guilt culture, not a punitive-shame culture like those in the East. If their marketing department does not understand the fundamental difference between those two terms and yet still wishes to do business internationally, they are too incompetent for their positions and must be replaced.

  • @trevorpearlharbor5171
    @trevorpearlharbor5171 14 днів тому +216

    I miss when SquareEnix was SquareSoft and they actually cared about their gamers.

    • @thejcxshow4426
      @thejcxshow4426 14 днів тому +15

      Same here.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 14 днів тому +23

      It ceased to be that when Hironobu Sakaguchi was forced out of the company in shame after Spirits Within flopped.

    • @miledeep3810
      @miledeep3810 14 днів тому +14

      Enix never made a game they held contests and stole from creators... Square i would agree is the better.

    • @DiogoJ1
      @DiogoJ1 14 днів тому +3

      I don't. SquareEnix was great for a good while. It was a step in the right direction. The problem lies in the more recent years.

    • @CazaliEiben
      @CazaliEiben 14 днів тому

      I miss the times when the industry was full of passionate developers instead of (white) men-hating hobby-destroyers.

  • @termagant425
    @termagant425 13 днів тому +4

    Especially your last words nail it best: There is no point in arguing or giving more feedback if you feel that it is not being valued and/or being taken seriously. Once that threshhold is reached, we as gamers literally have just one option: Not buy the product.
    It is a sad step to take and it becomes even sadder if good people loose their jobs should a product be a financial flop...but what other option is there?

  • @17th_Colossus
    @17th_Colossus 14 днів тому +77

    Square Enix is about to learn the full extent of the Streisand effect.

  • @alkie24
    @alkie24 14 днів тому +12

    It's a Sweet Baby Inc Protection Policy issued by Square Enix, that's just it. 💯

  • @DrBananananananananananananana
    @DrBananananananananananananana 14 днів тому +164

    This gentleman has invested heavily in a fine suit collection.

    • @Alberto-wu1mj
      @Alberto-wu1mj 14 днів тому +8

      He is a dapper man.

    • @sheikmuhammad3894
      @sheikmuhammad3894 14 днів тому +6

      And good suits can always be used for work and formal occasions.

    • @williamyoung9401
      @williamyoung9401 14 днів тому +3

      You know it's serious when he busts out the suit!

    • @user-if9pp4vg7g
      @user-if9pp4vg7g 14 днів тому +7

      @@sheikmuhammad3894 We men should bring back wearing suits as casual wear. Ever see videos of the 1980s? All the people look sharp AF.

    • @sheikmuhammad3894
      @sheikmuhammad3894 14 днів тому +1

      @@user-if9pp4vg7g Oh. Hell. Yes.

  • @TKUltra971
    @TKUltra971 14 днів тому +25

    What? Weren't they satisfied with all the media groups they have that downvote, poof comments and say repeatedly they "loved their (the) games" and have "thousands of hours" put into them without having ever touched them once? While discrediting voices saying they are "purists"? Oh Square-Enix, never change. Just make better quality games.

  • @CandleBroth
    @CandleBroth 14 днів тому +228

    Thank you for mentioning that these policies actually harm groups they're trying to protect. I've been so tired of people scapegoating on "Being inclusive" or "woke" without actually breaking down why something is bad. I hope somebody at Square Enix sees this. Great video.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +43

      Thank you for listening and showing support here. Let's make our voices heard and help steer the industry back onto a better path.

    • @ShadowMoses900
      @ShadowMoses900 14 днів тому +11

      Being inclusive in itself is good, but these policies are not and only end up hurting companies and employees in practice.

    • @uservenny84
      @uservenny84 14 днів тому

      You do realize that's legal asscovering against Japanese schizos, right? East Asia as a whole has a problem with consumers freaking the fuck out and either breaking into office buildings or sending bomb/terror threats (KyoAni-style), multiple gacha devs have had similar incidents in the past couple of years. That policy is the same shit idol companies like Cover have to protect their personnel. That's why it has the "trespassing" and "advance notice of wrongdoing" clauses.
      Do some research before jumping on bandwagons.

    • @rclaws3230
      @rclaws3230 14 днів тому +20

      @@ShadowMoses900 Being inclusive in itself is neutral, at best.

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 14 днів тому +12

      @@ShadowMoses900 I would argue it just leads to getting taken advantage of. Really no benefit for the people being told they need to do it.

  • @DarkTitanEnterprises
    @DarkTitanEnterprises 13 днів тому +7

    So sad Squeenix has gone this route. They were once an amazing studio and now I can’t stand most of the decisions they make.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  12 днів тому +2

      I feel similarly to you. What an absolute bummer for us, the gamers.

  • @FirstLast-rb5zj
    @FirstLast-rb5zj 14 днів тому +294

    I will never buy a square product again. Are they going to pursue legal action against me?

    • @probablywatches
      @probablywatches 14 днів тому +43

      They really really really wish they could

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 14 днів тому +30

      I guess me and all the other people who criticize Nomura's self-indulgent BS should be expecting a legal notice.

    • @dudebruh8534
      @dudebruh8534 14 днів тому +15

      Your laughing, but expect the Pickerton Detective Agency to arrive at your door asking why your discriminating against their client while holding firearms in their hands.

    • @Demonsouls1993
      @Demonsouls1993 14 днів тому +7

      the high seas is just growing at this point

    • @Shield.Maiden
      @Shield.Maiden 14 днів тому +6

      They do not have enough money to go after all the angry gamers. This will crush them financially

  • @DaenaMichelle
    @DaenaMichelle 14 днів тому +16

    Oh no, I became non-buy-nary again!

  • @djahman8501
    @djahman8501 14 днів тому +14

    It's kinda mind boggling how companies went from at least trying to make quality products and being proud of their products, to today were it's all about how much they can scam and/or be offensive to the customers. It's a weird world we live.. Also what happened to the saying --> ''the customer is always right''🤣

    • @FrostyTheDragon
      @FrostyTheDragon 14 днів тому +5

      ".....in matters of taste." People forget that part of the quote. It's supposed to be a counter to the whole "buyer beware" mentality that was around when the quote first came to be (and has definitely creeped back up now), not a substitute for a customer's common sense.
      Suing for criticism has a lot of repulsive tastes to it though - such as the fact that it shows a lack of confidence in the product. People can tell when something just isn't ready to sell.
      It actually doesn't boggle my mind how companies got away from making quality products. Let me sum it up this way: they stopped thinking about total money and put all focus on the here and now.

    • @djahman8501
      @djahman8501 14 днів тому

      @@FrostyTheDragon Thank you for your constructive comment, I appreciate learning new things👍

  • @NuchiAsaki
    @NuchiAsaki 14 днів тому +56

    I can't wait to be banned from FFXIV and sued for disliking the class balance.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +30

      That's the danger and problem with their policy. This can actually happen.

    • @skizzoidsgames1188
      @skizzoidsgames1188 14 днів тому +5

      @@sungrandstudios i really want to see that court case

    • @sataniaterumi9122
      @sataniaterumi9122 13 днів тому +4

      same this is because everybody’s criticising the new character in ff14 and the player base is dropping

    • @rremnar
      @rremnar 11 днів тому +2

      I quit playing FFXIV but for different reasons. But this shit will keep me away. Frankly, I don't give a fuck what happens to my long invested character now.

  • @BlulesBlue
    @BlulesBlue 14 днів тому +6

    one of the FF voice actors is recieving constant death threats, but is this the right way to deal with that? I still think they should sue whoever threatened their employees but not a whole program for it

  • @thomaswilson8022
    @thomaswilson8022 14 днів тому +51

    If only they would actually listen. This channel brings out the suit, it's solid legitimate advice that would benefit the industry as a whole for all parties. Why, why is it so hard for the truth to be agreed with

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +24

      That's a good question. It's almost as if some entity is giving big companies major monetary funding in order to push the policies of "Identity Supremacy".

    • @jontaehall2740
      @jontaehall2740 13 днів тому +1

      @ Not only is it unprofessional, but it's also emotionally and mentally immature.
      If you made a song. How would you know how your music after can be improved if all you want is praise? You wouldn't be able to tell if the hook was off or the tempo was quite right. Maybe the song didn't feel as impactful as your song before that one. You wouldn't know because all those people with genuine critiques are being put in with people simply saying, "This song sucks," and considering it harmful. Open-minded thinking is an underleveled stat amongst creators.

  • @akiramasashi9317
    @akiramasashi9317 14 днів тому +10

    Final Fantasy 14 gets a 3rd party stalking plugin
    Square Enix: "This is fine, nothing wrong with that :-)"
    Players having criticism about a video game
    Square Enix: "Activate order 66."

  • @nobehoddy9064
    @nobehoddy9064 14 днів тому +30

    Thanks for bringing this to light, i will never buy a Square Enix game again.

  • @RedwindAndBeyond
    @RedwindAndBeyond 14 днів тому +7

    The “policy” was probably created to excuse their laziness of actual game balancing, adjustment and feedback in general.

  • @Gmancontact
    @Gmancontact 14 днів тому +228

    I am glad they are doing this; I had too many games in my Steam Whishlist.

    • @ChaoticHoly
      @ChaoticHoly 14 днів тому +30

      Yep! Now they're on my high seas hunt list.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +60

      Now THAT'S a glass half full.

    • @Goremize
      @Goremize 14 днів тому +11

      All these studio's making it easier to get through our 100 game backlogs because they not making anything worthwhile to play

    • @IKvASS
      @IKvASS 14 днів тому

      Yarrrrrrrr!

    • @Gmancontact
      @Gmancontact 14 днів тому +6

      @@sungrandstudios I am from Venezuela. When You come from a dictatorship, You NEED to look for the best outcome out of each situation. Thanks for your videos, man.

  • @Spidder81
    @Spidder81 9 днів тому +2

    Another one to put on the avoid list. Though if they did try to sue, i highly doubt it will stand up in court where someone said they hate one of thier games.

  • @gaberiando
    @gaberiando 14 днів тому +79

    Gabe here:
    I Missed the suit.
    Listen to him Squarenix. make yourself a favor... is not too late

    • @Alberto-wu1mj
      @Alberto-wu1mj 14 днів тому +4

      You know Jerrel is serious when he has the full suit.

    • @ilari90
      @ilari90 14 днів тому +1

      @@Alberto-wu1mj "Why so SERIOUS?!" -Heath Ledger

    • @Survivor-od1xy
      @Survivor-od1xy 14 днів тому +1

      Thanks Gabe.

    • @thefinalday5858
      @thefinalday5858 14 днів тому

      It is indeed terminal
      Cancer has taken over the brain

    • @Zymemaru
      @Zymemaru 14 днів тому

      If it's gotten this bad is probably is too late

  • @JamesGodbane
    @JamesGodbane 14 днів тому +10

    Bankruptcy is their destiny.

  • @Ku6epIIe4eHe7
    @Ku6epIIe4eHe7 14 днів тому +37

    You are setting the standard of swift responses, Jerell!

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +8

      Thank you. Let's make our voices heard in the games industry.

  • @JohnAlthaus-jz8bo
    @JohnAlthaus-jz8bo 13 днів тому +3

    All of those in favor of being banned by square enix, please raise your hands. 🙋‍♂️

  • @Alberto-wu1mj
    @Alberto-wu1mj 14 днів тому +33

    Criticism itself isn’t hate or harassment. The first amendment/freedom of expression allows criticism. In contrast, the company threatening legal action just because someone says something you do not like may be considered harassment. I have no interest in buying from a company that takes this approach. Gamers first.

  • @side7oldtype298
    @side7oldtype298 14 днів тому +4

    As the old saying goes: "Never bite the hand that feeds you."

  • @Speak4thedead
    @Speak4thedead 14 днів тому +35

    Sir, you are one of my heroes now. Thank you for that

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +10

      That's an incredible compliment. I will do my best to deserve that.

  • @27jayway-yc9nl
    @27jayway-yc9nl 14 днів тому +3

    I am so glad someone like you is with among us.

  • @teenybopper598
    @teenybopper598 14 днів тому +55

    Damn, this one of your best yet as far as being clear, concise and objectively correct information. Thank you for your continued efforts in encouragement, information and accountability!

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +9

      Thank you for listening and showing support here. Let's make our voices heard in the games industry.

  • @TheSlackrguy
    @TheSlackrguy 14 днів тому +2

    I go back and forth on your channel & cannot always tell when you are joking, but you have a great tie knot so subscribing for a bit.

  • @j.r.warren5794
    @j.r.warren5794 14 днів тому +39

    I've found that certain people tend to abuse systems like that. Swatting is an extreme example.

  • @ricardotaut7498
    @ricardotaut7498 14 днів тому +2

    What a great speech, just fantastic! Let's hope the right people see this.

  • @Ozaryk
    @Ozaryk 14 днів тому +24

    One major problem with their policy is that it allows them to do the things in it to others and if they get any push back, they can claim foul and go after that person. I'm pretty sure I recall companies doing this in the past and it didn't go well for them... I can't think of any names right now though.

    • @Ozaryk
      @Ozaryk 14 днів тому +2

      There are more major problems that the one I presented.

  • @braveagentg
    @braveagentg 13 днів тому +2

    Imagine finding yourself in a situation in which complaining about a strand of hair found in your dish makes the staff ask you to leave the restaurant.

  • @MichaellaHermosa-hn7vh
    @MichaellaHermosa-hn7vh 14 днів тому +46

    Shame of Square Enix

  • @JokerJK-jg1gi
    @JokerJK-jg1gi 14 днів тому +11

    Ah yes, the "LALALALALA I can't hear you!" maneuver, a classic. I shall respond with the closed wallet technique.

    • @Flamberg7
      @Flamberg7 14 днів тому +4

      they will parry this with classic "this game is not for you"
      .
      .
      .
      But after the flop YOU will be guilty)

    • @Sairiui
      @Sairiui 14 днів тому +6

      @@Flamberg7 and then countered by "Oh no!
      Anyways." as they fall into bankruptcy.

  • @toastedchoom4347
    @toastedchoom4347 14 днів тому +3

    After reading through the announcement and notes myself the only line that concerns me is "Defamation/slander, denial of personality, personal attack (including email, contact in contact form, comment or post on the internet), advance notice of wrongdoing, advance notice of obstruction of business". Especially the comment or post on the internet, like what does that even mean? Where is the line drawn between telling Dev's to game end themselves and just saying you think FF14 is utterly shocking at the moment.
    A lot of what is in it sounds more to due with Japanese customers harassing employee's in the SQX head offices.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +1

      Good comment. That is a fair concern. They did not make it clear what is punishable.

    • @Revkor
      @Revkor 14 днів тому

      @@sungrandstudios frankly I see that as thin skinned dummes. how did their legal not see the potential lawsuits coming from this.
      people NEED to be fired after this blunder

  • @ggamemaster1689
    @ggamemaster1689 14 днів тому +11

    This guy has more class and maturity and manners than Alyssa Mercante and Sweet baby Inc.

  • @CritCuts
    @CritCuts 14 днів тому +2

    Couldn't agree more, also, I can't believe how much some people have raised the bar on their sensitivity. I've had comments get deleted that had nothing that I could find bad in them. No cursing, no violence. Still got deleted though. I figured I made too much sense

  • @stormstrider
    @stormstrider 14 днів тому +38

    Man, I love how eloquently you word these garbage situations.
    Guy is like the Wise Beard Man of GamerGate

  • @thant0s
    @thant0s 14 днів тому +3

    Agreed, except for "unknowingly". We're not so foolish as to presume they had any benevolent intentions here.

  • @zoowai
    @zoowai 14 днів тому +55

    Square Enix has been living of its former shell for the past 10 years

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +16

      I used to buy and play every Final Fantasy game, but it has been a long timr since then.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 14 днів тому +17

      I'd argue 15, maybe 20. Let's be honest, the golden age of Square ended after FFX.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 14 днів тому +3

      Ff9 was the end of the Golden age

    • @ZefraSol
      @ZefraSol 12 днів тому +1

      they're just blasting remakes

    • @TheGhostFart
      @TheGhostFart 11 днів тому

      XIV has been keeping them afloat

  • @natese8406
    @natese8406 14 днів тому +4

    It's over for square. You can't come back from threatening gamers. And if they think gamers will be scared off, you're sorely mistaken.

  • @dudebruh8534
    @dudebruh8534 14 днів тому +36

    You know, its honestly impressive that these are the companies that go out of their way to hire phycology experts to make their game but then they tell gamers "Don't do this or we'll get mad!" then they get surprised as gamers do exactly that but harder.

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 14 днів тому +11

      Because those experts aren't being consulted on anything but how to extract money from them as rapidly as possible.

  • @Kirsdarke
    @Kirsdarke 14 днів тому +2

    Everything about this video is great. Everything you say here is well intentioned and accurate and I hope to high heaven someone at Square sees it and takes it to heart!
    “Gamers first” - awesome line and solid rallying cry.

  • @spACEmanJ7
    @spACEmanJ7 14 днів тому +8

    Man, I just love how you can make your points in such a calm, clear, and proffessional manner, on a platform full of channels seeking attention via riduculous behaviour and deliberate outraegously presented shock and outrage, your videos are just so refreshing🙂

  • @RedHoodRubyRose
    @RedHoodRubyRose 13 днів тому +1

    Customer: "I don't like your game."
    Square Enix: "SUE AND BAN THEM!"

  • @demonpride1975
    @demonpride1975 14 днів тому +19

    i would never resort to name calling and such, i will fight square the one way i know how, to just not buy their products.

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  14 днів тому +7

      We will fight this the right way. Let's vote with our wallets.

  • @SoldierSpiderx
    @SoldierSpiderx 14 днів тому +3

    That lawsuit threat is just huge "Don't buy our games" sign

  • @minzy421
    @minzy421 14 днів тому +10

    Good luck to Square Enix trying sue someone from Russia and China when they get criticised

  • @formdusktilldeath
    @formdusktilldeath 14 днів тому +5

    We seem to have progressed from particular developers voicing their disdain for their customers, now it's company policy. Hooray for progress, I guess?

  • @darcidious99
    @darcidious99 14 днів тому +17

    Oh shit he put the suit on... shit's going down.

  • @postmodernmining
    @postmodernmining 14 днів тому +4

    Remember when game companies just tried to make the best games and weren't d bags to their companies? Good times.

  • @SherKhalSaad
    @SherKhalSaad 14 днів тому +9

    I am no attorney, but my firm belief in the law of unintended consequences tells me that this is a can of litigation worms that squeenix may very well come to bitterly regret opening. Its all fun and games until the discovery process starts.

    • @skizzoidsgames1188
      @skizzoidsgames1188 14 днів тому +2

      yeah i really want them to start actually suing because shit is go be fireeeee

  • @malomodo
    @malomodo 14 днів тому +2

    Square Enix is not a person. You can't harass them any more than you could harass a rock. Individuals that post their opinions in public spaces are opening themselves up to criticism just like everyone else. Anyone that sells a product to the public are open to criticism from their customers, that's what keeps them honest. Without that transparency we can only assume dishonesty.

  • @charlesduke9750
    @charlesduke9750 14 днів тому +3

    A wonderful speech. I doubt anyone in that place will listen to it though. Square Enix, another developer to avoid like the plague.

  • @RonDFK
    @RonDFK 12 днів тому

    Sessir! Saw you donned the suit and knew this would be an incredible speech. Thank you!

  • @Jay34k
    @Jay34k 14 днів тому +30

    The only thing keeping SE relevant is *drum roll*...
    r34 animations with models from their games

  • @cereal9285
    @cereal9285 13 днів тому +2

    Small correction you should make. Criminal proceedings is not correct. > Civil matters are not criminal matters, they are civil matters. A corporation may come after you with civil proceedings. Losing a civil suit does not add to a criminal record nor will it have jail or prison time.
    The other thing is I don't know what sqenix thinks they can do with this. Speech and expression is a constitutionally protected freedom in a lot of countries they sell games in (to varying degrees) and in almost every 'case' they could ever have, they will never actually have a case.

  • @SilverSonic2099
    @SilverSonic2099 14 днів тому +28

    The Squaresoft we knew and loved has died a long time ago and Square enix has been turning to crap more and more over the last couple of years. As far as I’m concerned I’m quite happy never spending another cent with them.

  • @terrykrugii5652
    @terrykrugii5652 12 днів тому +2

    Haven't considered Square Enix to be very good at game making in a long time tbh. I won't cry when they go insolvent

  • @KSTR.B
    @KSTR.B 6 днів тому +3

    I remember Square Enix mostly care about Japanese workers or players and money in Japan. I thought like Japanese people can be work each other but in Japan real life they just care mostly themselves and money.
    I remember when I was a Square Enix fan I had played alot of Square Enix games and the SE Aracdes in Japan. But when I found one of the problem from the Square Enix. I had use Twitter to tell about the Problem of the Square Enix in the back but the Japanese players thought me I am a spy and I got bully but I am not I am just telling a truth what happen in SE. I made me cry and hurt my feeling. Even I played one of the Dissidia AC is one of the JP world best players Goma and cherry had bullying me that I'm really sucks in Dissidia. I can't believe fan of SE Japanese players had treated me like this almost 8 years. Even I am a girl they are treat bad. 😿
    Until now they will just forget and no apologize. I remember past years few of the Japanese players did say sorry to me before but still alot of the Japanese players won't because just will just pretend won't know about this what SE are. One of my Japanese friend that he told me that alot of SE JP workers had retire or Career change to oversea game company I am surprised. So I think I shouldn't had cheer to SE. So I had quit all of the SE games and I had done with it for 20years. 😾💦
    But now I am really did make a new Japanese friends from PSO2NGS online it did make me a funny feeling like this game is much better from FF14. 😸✨️

  • @tonbuhd
    @tonbuhd 10 днів тому

    A quote from Ed Sabol “Treat everyone with respect like a gentleman, not because they are, but because you are.” You nailed it on the head.

  • @nonamenoname9550
    @nonamenoname9550 14 днів тому +7

    I have a suspicion that alienating marginalized groups even further was their plan from the beginning. There is no way a lot of people make so much similar mistakes for a really long time. On the other hand, lying about their goals? Happens all the time.

    • @Leturane
      @Leturane 14 днів тому +2

      Sometime I have this nagging idea as well. It almost feel like these people want alienating to happening. Just look at how people react to games with slight hint of woke. Yes, to be fair it’s pattern recognition because these woke game most of the time suck one way or another. Anyhow you are not alone in thinking that maybe there is agenda behind all this.

  • @kimochi-kun6729
    @kimochi-kun6729 14 днів тому +7

    Thank you Square Enix, it's been fun. Thanks for the memories, Final Fantasy was one of my favorite IP, but this is the point where i will move on from you.

  • @MmntechCa
    @MmntechCa 14 днів тому +2

    This was 100% in response to them getting caught working with SBI. Problem with these companies is they eventually get so big, they start thinking they don't need their customers, and start viewing them with contempt. Sounds like this leaves the door open for suing content creators for just giving a bad review. That's very speech chilling. Guess I won't be buying their games again.

  • @thenecrophymm6591
    @thenecrophymm6591 14 днів тому +6

    Such policies NEED to be EXTREMELY SPECIFIC, or they WILL be abused at every opportunity. Criticism is NOT, nor has it ever been, harassment.

  • @gortys3929
    @gortys3929 14 днів тому +2

    There is the difference between critic and death threats and we all know that there is enough crazy people who write the latter in social media.

  • @judgem0rt1s23
    @judgem0rt1s23 14 днів тому +5

    God forbid a company treats its customers with respect. I have never understood this mindset they have where they think their customers are stupid sheep who will buy anything they put out regardless of quality.

  • @friedrichjunzt
    @friedrichjunzt 14 днів тому +1

    "industry leader" and "responsibility" are words that hardly ever can be used in one sentence...

  • @xezee
    @xezee 14 днів тому +6

    I wouldn't worry about it. If anything it's a sign of hilarious things to come. If Square indeed goes after someone who said "Your game is trash." on Reddit, it will blow up in their face so hard there won't be anything left to laugh at.

  • @BrodieBr0
    @BrodieBr0 12 днів тому +1

    Ironically I am getting healthier in mind and body every time your wonderful suit comes on becuase I reallocate funds ment for video games to my other hobbies of gardening, hiking, nature walking, and classic car restoration. Every time the suit comes on, is another compan that has lost my respect, and the opening of my wallet. These companies are their own doom, and the suit is here to warn them yet they do not listen. But I listen, and thank you very much for these videos my friend!

    • @sungrandstudios
      @sungrandstudios  12 днів тому

      Let's enjoy stuff outside like hiking and camping!