Maybe it would have been a better comparison when comparing the G80/85 with the GX80/85 in terms of the product series but I guess you took these two because of the similar pricepoint?
Ugly Igor price point and just because I own them and have more experience with them really. Id love to do a comparison of the g80 I've coveted one for a while 😅
I bought the GX85 as a travel camera. Pair it with the Lumix 35-100 and you have everything you need. BTW if you look through the viewfinder with your right eye your nose won't touch the screen.
The annoying thing with the nose moving the focus point can be stopped by disabling touch pad Af in the touch settings menu. I also wear glasses but I have no isseus with the EVF. BTW I had both the GX80 and the G7 but I recently sold the G7 and replaced it with the Olympus em5. I find this a better combination. Keep the videos going , love them
A small tip for using the GX80 without nose issues: use your right eye and keep you nose and cheek away from the camera (so unlike a DSLR). Then, keep your thumb on the touch screen at all times to select the focus point. This for me has practically eliminated any issues I had with continuous autofocus as well as nose bumps. Maybe I should make a video about this. Happy shooting!
All your points are what made me want to love the gx80/85, but in the end the narrow hand grip and the location of the viewfinder had me go with the G7. I also felt the controls were too cramped. But it was a CLOSE thing!
It is also possible to assign a custom button to switch the touchscreen on and off. Plus I just discovered that pressing and holding a custom button allows you to reassign its function without diving through the menus!
Dope comparison! I started my similar micro 4/3rds hoarding with the G7, then the I got the GX85, then I got the G85. The GX85’s IBIS was well worth the extra cost, but I did end up missing the mic input and flip out screen on the G7, thus the G85. The G85 has served me SO well, and I still use it regularly for my UA-cam videos. I sold the G7 and I don’t really use the GX85 as much as the G85, since the G85 has more features for video. But the GX85 plus a pancake lens are SO fun for taking around to street photo/random shoots where I don’t want to carry around a bunch of crap with me. I typically use the GX85 for stuff like that + b-roll. Btw love your videos and your sense of humor!
I've been eyeing the G85 too. I have the GX85, and the G7 is super cheap atm, but if I'm getting a second camera, I'd prefer it to be more of an upgrade. Then the GX85 could be the second option.
Oh fancy seeing you here FredAqua!! Yeah man, I love her videos like I love yours! So I was debating picking up the GX85 but I wonder if I shouldn’t just pickup the g85 instead?!
@@lessonsfromafather3465 I picked up the gx85 recently. I will primarily use it for b roll and photos. The stabilization is butter. I would recommend the g85. I personally cannot get over not having a flippy screen and the mic input... I have a g7 and gx85. What did you end up going with?
Luke Learns I did buy a gx8 and used it for a while but realized it’s just not fitting for my hand, or style! I sold it and bought a sweet GH4 in excellent condition with 4 very good lenses for $1200...so I couldn’t pass it up! I keep the G7 on my zhiyun crane and have built a rig around the GH4 for tripod work. I’m very happy with this decision though! Eventually when I can justify the purchase I’ll upgrade to a GH5! Here’s a link to my company channel which I shoot all the videos using how I mentioned above: ua-cam.com/video/MbzbmvAzRoI/v-deo.html
The best comparison video. I had looked at 3 to 5 others before this one, and thought I had enough information to make my decision. Therefore, I almost closed this tab out before watching it, thinking I had enough information to make a decision . Thankfully, I went ahead and watched this video, and am so glad that I did, as Micro Four Nerds provided the best comparison. Before listening to this, I was content with going with the G7, and then realized that I could get the best of the the G7 and the G85X by going with the G85 with very little difference in price! Great job Micro Fourn Nerds!
Let me tell you the Gx85 has my heart right away and my G9 may become a very lonely camera until I’m doing serious photo work and even then it’s a awesome street photography camera. I forgot how much I love flip up screen versus a flippy screen for me. I can shoot ambidextrous with my eyes so do love the placement of the viewfinder on the Gx85. The compact size is a pleasure when it’s just casual or street photography. And that built in flash is handy. And dammit why doesn’t the G9 have a powered hot shoe so you can install the mini flashes powered from the camera battery like the Gx85. Never used the G9 video so don’t care about that. Would love to see a firmware update for the Gx85 on auto focus but it’s pretty good. I personally can’t tell the difference between the quality of photos when I printed a 8x10. Maybe with a 16x20 print? It’s unbelievable I’m finding myself loving this camera more than the G9 in many ways.
Always enjoy your videos. For me, although I have both of these, it is GX85 all the way, so much so I bought a used one that needed repairs, but now I have two. I still have the G7 but don't use it all that much since getting the GX85's and even upgraded from the G7 to a G95. Still have the G7 but may start using it for video only on a tripod, mainly because of the lack of IBIS. The G7 has tons of great qualities and I do break it out sometimes.
The G80 is best of both, apart from size obviously. But if I was buying a 2nd body, it'd be the GX80, would love one to just stick a prime on and leave it at that
Hi Emily, thanks so much for your videos and I really like that you share some workflow and many samples of lenses in action. I wanted to reach out because you've used both g7 and Gx85 extensively. I just picked up the g7 and am leaning towards it because of really the grip and flip screen that I think is easier for travel vlog and similar picture quality. Does the 5axis benefit mostly just video ? Or photo as well? I am coming from Fuji and want to make the switch to pany. Also for street and portrait what would be top 3 lenses you would recommend? My kit came with 14-42 and 45-150. Thank you! I love your Malta pictures.. would you consider doing post edit video? Your photos inspire me
I had the gx80 at first but ditched it for the g80 because it is the best of g7 and gx80 mixed together. If you sum up the advantages of both cameras you basically describe the g80. I got the body only for 600 euros, that's not too much difference to my mind.
I have a GX80 and a G7 and I wear glasses. I can see the EVF fine with or without my glasses although without them it is out of focus. Touching the touch screen with the nose is not a problem as you can use the LVF switch to inactivate it. I note your point about bending the GX80 flash upwards - I didn't realise that you could do it as you have to hold it in position and I worried that it would break off.
Bill Johnson I've bounced the flash a few times like that. It is springy so it feels secure enough to do. I'm not sure it is the intended use for it tho haha
As several have noted, you can absolutely disable the touch AF. I have trouble with SLR-styled cameras with my nose on the screen, but I've never had an issue with rangefinder-styled cameras with my nose on the screen because my nose is off to the left side of the camera when using the AVF. That said, I really haven't used the EVF much on the GX85. The rear screen is really good, especially for discreet street photography. A fully articulating screen is not quite as discreet as the GX85 tilt screen. I was also used to a Nikon DSLR, which was so heavy that I HAD to use the OVF just to stabilize the thing (three point stabilization), but the GX85 is so small and light, I find that I just don't need it at my eye to stabilize the shot.
Yah, if I wasn’t left-eye dominant the position of the eye piece wouldn’t be an issue at all. But as I am, my tests with the gx85 showed the same issue, the focus point jumped all over the place. It was a bummer.
Wes Allen Huh. I never thought about dominant eye. I guess I'm right eye dominant. My first camera was a Canonette rangefinder, so I got used to sliding my nose along the left side of the camera. SLRs felt bizarre because my nose always smashed against the back of the camera.
I'm a novice looking for a camera. I saw one model that has a feature that shows you if you are over, under, or correctly exposed before you take the photo.From there you can figure out on your own if you need to adjust F stop or ISO. Pretty nifty. Do either of these have a feature like that?
Yes, I think most cameras will have this now. you can use the light meter which is usually at the bottom middle of Panasonic cameras to gauge the light and change settings accordingly 😊
I just discovered your channel and love it! Im looking to get a G7 to shoot guitar videos. What lens would you recommend I start out with? I'm new to photography/videography and am overwhelmed with choosing a lens..
Keith Saavedra Hello fellow guitar video maker and G7 user! Check out the Sigma 16mm 1.4. It’ll give you a 28mm full frame equivalent which is basically the same field of view as cell phone cameras nowadays. And it’s a great lens! I really need to pick one up again...
I also have the the g7 and just bought the gx85. I love my g7 but needed the stabilization offered by the gx85. Great vid! I also plan on owning a g85 as soon as my bank account allows it. I too am now a micro four nerd...
In answer to your question about wearing glasses and using the GX80 viewfinder, I find my glasses move my nose sufficiently away from the touchscreen so as not to cause 'nose auto focus'. Another way around the problem is to use the right eye, so the nose is nowhere near the screen. I suppose another alternative would be to decrease the sensitivity of touch on the screen, but that would affect everything else too, probably not a good idea. Incidentally, having jumped the MFT ship for a while last year, in favour of canon's dual pixel af, I'm now back in the fold. I missed the convenience of MFT, and now own a G6, that I picked up for under £130, a G80, and a GX80. The last two obviously have ibis, which I missed too much for video, so the writing was on the wall for the Canons. ......🤗
By chance, is there A method you use to get cameras easier? Maybe websites outside of B&H? They're more expensive. Edit: I'm only asking because I've also watched one of your videos where you mentioned one of your favorite cheap lenses and calling yourself cheap lol (So am I to an extent) so I figured you may have A easier way to get what you want. Regardless, keep up the great work
I’m a big fan of eBay and local personal selling apps like gumtree etc. You tend to find lenses hold their value but camera bodies plummet like stones. Lots of bargains to be found 😁
I'm a spectacle wearer, and have no trouble using the GX80 viewfinder. I don't experience 'nose af' either, because I use my right eye, so the nose is well away from the screen.
i love my gx80 but wear glasses and the evf is terrible to use, although i do my best i mainly end up using the screen. there seems to be an issue with a lot of these cameras with delamination of the evf over time, would be interested if this can be repaired or replaced and the costs involved.
Hey, I'm unsure which camera I should buy. I want a camera for using for family- and vacation-photos. So normally, I would tend to the GX80, because of the more stabilizers. Would you agree? The only thing, that's holding me back from buying is, that I'd like to make some UA-cam videos (indoor, miniature painting) and so I'd miss the audio line-in, that comes with the G7(0). But, maybe the whole UA-cam idea is stupid and I cut it ... so: If I'm not making any videos: Would be the GX80 the better camera? You know, for making a fast shot (cause my one year old boy, doesn't wait very long for me to take a picture)
If you can find a g80, rather than a Gx80, that would solve all your problems. Stabilised, weathersealed and great audio! It’s bigger style more like a g7
Very nice and humorous comparison :-) I own and use both, though I prefer the G7 in every situation where I don't need IBIS or smallest possible size (G80 + 20mm 1.7 pancake is a lovely combination). The G80's EVF is really poor - If i could put my old GH1's EVF into the G80 (or even G7), I would do it! It's so cool to film with my old adapted (Nikon) glass and have IBIS, but not really with a bad EVF. Emily, how would you compare the EVFs of G7 and GH5 (or, if you've ever tried, G85)? Thanks a lot!
Josef Weisleitner the Gh5 evf really is in a league of its own. Its bright, sharp and some how bigger. And I hear the g9 is even better! I've only had a brief look at the g85 in a store, and took some quick test shots. It had the build quality of the Gh5 but to my eye the evf looked quite similar to the g7. I didn't play with it for long tho so I cant be sure. The gx80 is the worst evf of the bunch
Thanks for the video and commentary. I am looking at the GX80/GX85 as a travel camera. Can you tell me whether there is any freez-up of the EVF between shutter snaps? In other words, does the EVF freeze for a period of time while the image saves to disk?
I’m not too sure to be honest I have mine blink then display a preview for a few seconds so I can review my work. If you turn off the preview I reckon it’ll just blink for a second and carry on. That’s what happens in burst mode as you can’t review each photo
I was just reading an old entry in David Thorpe's blog how a photographer friend of his missed a scoop because he didn't have a camera with him (back in pre-mobile phone days) and I quickly thought what a great combination the GX85 with its pancake zoom is as a everyday everywhere camera. I guess the newer choice would be the GX9 but for the mild difference in line and accent, somehow the GX85 is still the better looking one.
One more thing, I have had a serious GAS problem for a few years now, can't seem to get rid of any of my cameras and keep adding lenses and attachments. I did manage to give away a Canon Rebel to my daughter and another one to my Grand daughter so am M43 and Nikon only shooter only now.
I thought shooting in the Cinelike profiles wasn’t recommended because you lose data that you can’t add back in later since the bit depth isn’t high enough like the GH5?
FoodTechLife hmm I've got really good results from it so far. I kind of have to really because otherwise it wouldn't grade with my other footage and stick out
Speaking of features, have you ever tried the "Snap Movie" feature? Essentially, it lets you perform a precise and smooth focus pull with all those focus-by-wire lenses. Turn off all the fade-ins and fade-outs and all the other nonsense, just select 8 sec and the focus points. Works great and is a serious feature imho. It's like a heavily stripped down version of the GH5's focus pull feature (where you can select multiple focus points, adjust speed etc., all without a record limit), but it is still very useful!
The Good Ketchup The G7 has it. I don't know about other models, but would guess the G85 has it, too. It's the third item on the "motion picture" page of the menu, called Snap Movie.
Micro Four Nerds I think it is one hell of a feature that gets way too little attention. The snap movie feature on the G7 [menu>motion picture>snap movie] seems a bit gimmicky in comparison, but is nonetheless very usable.
Glasses: that is what the dioptric adjustment does- remove glasses, adjust wheel next to viewfinder. Lack of flash. Professional photographers use either a smart remote on the hot shoe or a pro flash on an L bracket. Why inflate the price on something rarely used. Great review - I have the GX85 and it is killer 4K video.
Thank you! Im considering getting a new body to go along with my Oly EM5 II. These two are options (mainly for the 4k video) I'm considering so your video is usefull to me. However since my current camera has a 16mp sensor Im thinking of getting one with a bigger sensor. Do you think that difference of sensor is important? Thanks again!
Tomas Hernandez hi! For video the sensor size won't make much of a difference as 4k is only 8mp anyway. For stills it is handy to be able to crop more in post production with the 20mp, but you still have plenty of wiggle room with 16mp😊
You've probably already figured out how to turn of the touch Af: Cusom>Touch Settings>Touch AF! I have both of these cameras, I've only had the GX85 for a month, and the EVF is a bit uncomfy, especially with glasses! I mainly just use the screen, not the EVF.
Micro Four Nerds how do you get Cinelike D in the GX80?? 1:29 The G7 was my entry into Panasonic-land (after hating m4/3 because of an Olympus...), now I rock a Gh5 and a GX80, but I'd love a flatter profile to shoot with. I know I won't get V-log, but... How did you get Cinelike D ?! :D :D Great channel BTW. Note: you mention tweaking at 4:20, have you made some video on "how to"?
Roger in Finland thanks! I had a similar experience starting with Olympus, then finding Panasonic and loving it. If you have a look on UA-cam to add cine d to the gx80, there are lots of tutorials. It's quite simple to do you can just follow along and set it up in minutes 😊
Just saw this video today, 4 yrs later, and just wondering what are you up to now, are you still heavily into photography, cameras and lens collection? Seems like I just arrived at the G/GX rave a bit late, I just got all 3 models with me to help me decide and I can’t really pick one. I do find myself using the GX85 more maybe because of its size, looks and feel, so that is the winner. The G95 wins in terms of features overload, but I don’t use many of those features often so that doesn’t matter. The whole 20 mega pixel is no advantage, images from the G95 look soft, dull, and not as sharp or crisp. I think the G85 is the happy medium between the two, a bit bigger than the GX but not as robust as the G95, better image quality than the G95 in my opinion. So, it is hard to choose one. The G95 is huge in size, but feels light and comfortable to hold. The G85 feels tiny and heavy, it hurts after a while. The G95 has a more mature interface, easier and more pleasant to use, but it doesn’t output pleasing image quality, lackluster results. The G95 is hard to hold and use, but produces very pleasing images. The GX85 lacks in every area, limited functionality, hard to use and hold, but it looks good, it feels good, you are more tempted to grab it, you use it more, and the final image results are excellent, although the 12-32 kit lens is not good at all. The 12-60 and the 45-150 are both excellent kit lens. So, there you have it. Six of one and half dozen of the others. For studio work the G85, for out and about the GX85, I would skip the G95. So, true that today 4yrs later, the GX85/G85 are both holding their resale price and value, but today the G95 sells new for the same price as the G85. That tells you it is not a good performer.
Micro Four Nerds, do you know if the screen rate(the both have 3inch screen) is the same for the both cameras ? I want to buy LCDEV and I found only for G7 and I thought if it fits on GX80...
I have the GX80 and I wear glasses. I've gotten used to it and have no problems anymore. I set the touchscreen that way, that it works like a joystick. So in viewfinder mode my face won't change the position of the focus point and I can use my right thumb to position the focus without it jumping to my thumb position. I bet someone described that before here, but I don't remember what the actual settings were, so I have no clue about that. :)
It can be viewed and controlled via the Panasonic app, and I do use my right eye - I still hit my stupid nose on the screen 😂 or maybe its my cheek actually?! Lol
I got my g7 body only off display unfortunately so I can't compare them. I do quite like the gx80 stock lens, great for a walkabout lens, though it doesn't hold up well in back-lit situations
Thanks! I really want to get the G7 but I've been told the 14 mm kit lens isn't wide enough (I'll be recording indoor music performances in small places). Do you know of any budget (around $300) wide angle lenses for MFT?
@@randrade89 Meike do a really nice 12mm f2.8 lens, I have a review on my channel somewhere of it. Its very sharp but is manual focus only, which can be a deal breaker for some people. Wide angle lenses that are affordable and fast are like unicorns for this system unfortunately!
On my G81 you can toggle the behaviour of the touch pad between absolute and relative positioning. Set it to relative and a touch won't bother you as long as you don't swipe across the screen. That solved it for me. Don't know if there is a similar setting on the GX80 though but if then you should give it a try.
I agree that the smallish view finder for those like myself who wear glasses, requires pressing up against the eye cup. But invariably, because of my oily nose and large pores, my touch screen can get funky fast. Gross.
I thought I had alot of lenses, but seeing your collection makes me feel less guilty. Never used the GX80 and don't really plan to. My G7 is my B cam for my G85 and hopefully within a few months will go to being a C cam/leave at home cam when I get a GH5. I really can't picture myself getting something without a mic input.
Yeah my nose bumps into the screen and changes the focus point by accident all the time but I just readjust it with my nose and it works well enough. ;)
First and foremost, that's some battle damage on that 17mm f1.8! Secondly, that's a nice comparison between the two, I'd almost be curious about a G85 vs GX85 comparison, even if certain aspects of that miiiight be a tad unfair ^_^ What would be really awesome is a rangefinder style body that's still nice and compact, weather sealed, and has a somewhat larger EVF so those with glasses can readily use it...
White Wulfe ha!! I was wondering if anyone would notice my battered lens! I dropped it recently in Malta and now it won't take filters anymore. So annoying!
Again, great video. I also had the same two cameras myself. I say "had" since I sold G7. And that's only because I have em1ii(similar look, size as G7). One thing I couldn't see until I had both in hands was the weight. Boy, that gx80 is noticeably heavier. At least to my impression. One comment. You can turn off the touch focus on gx80. I don't have the camera with me right now so I can't point out how, but I know because I turn it off all the time. One more comment of my gx80 experience. The mode dial turns by accident quite often. It didn't happen with G7 or em1ii, but gx80 was quite annoying in that regard.
I only have the GX80, so can't compare, but the biggest downside i have with it is the flat interface. I'm constantly changing the focus point on the touch screen by accident and I also find it hard to find back button focus button just by touch alone, I always have to take the camera away from my face to put my thumb over it again. If there was a lip around the screen like other cameras, i think it would be a lot better. This is just a minor issue though really as I really do enjoy using it.
Dave Arkanoid Gilbert When I use my right eye for the EVF I have no problem with my nose touching the screen. Also you can disable that function in the menue.
It's not my nose that moves it. It's my hand or fingers when using the function buttons or just generally holding it. Because of the flat back to the camera your hand just naturally touches the screen. I may end up disabling the touch function. Cheers :)
hi Emily. i hope that you are fine and well. I enjoy watching your videos and i really like the way you explain different things about photography and m43 system. if you don't mind, i need a recommendation from you. i have an olympus e-m10 mark ii. as the time passes, i noticed some missing parts that i need. as the winter season arrived, i need a weather proof camera and i also need an external mic input for quality recording. at the moment, there is a bargain for Panasonic g85 with 12-60 and 45-200 lenses in bhphoto. is it possible for you to recommend this package in order to fulfil my needs?
The g85 is an absolute beast. I was about to recommend it before you mentioned it haha and if there's a good deal on it then that's even better! The g85 will have eveything you need.
@@MicroFourNerds it's great to hear that i made the right choice. it looks like, i am learning from the master 😊 i will be waiting for your new educational videos. take care of yourself
I think you might have got the hint now that you can disable the touch screen facilities on the gx80 thus avoiding the nose wandering focal point issues. =)
As someone who wears glasses, I can't even begin to tell you how much of a pain in the butt it is. I tried it out before buying it and I could see RGB dots all over the panel. I almost bought it online without testing the EVF first, so I'm glad I did get to test it first. Thankfully the GX8 has a better viewfinder, so the RGB dots issue is non-existent. Although it was twice the price of the GX80/85, I went with the GX8 and I don't regret it one bit. Side note, I also owned the G7 for a short period of time and it didn't have that RGB dots issue either, so it must be a GX80/85 issue.
paul not a dummy at all! It means, in theory, you could get a steady shot 5 stops darker than an unstabilised camera. Except the shot won't be darker. Meaning you can use a longer shutterspeed and the image will come out stable. For instance on the gx80 you can shoot at 1/10th of a second quite easily, but on the g7 that would come out blurred
If the G7(0) had IBIS, i would pick it for sure. But sadly, without a gimbal, the footage is nearly unusable, when doing quicker movements. I have the G70 and i had borrowed a friends GX80 and i dislike alot of things about it. I dont like how it lays in your hands, i dont like how you access the menu ( i think there were less control buttons), the viewfinder is not very nice to use... but the IBIS just is such a big deal for videos, so if i had the choice again, i dont know if i would go for the G70, although with stabilization, it would be one of the best beginner cameras.
Hey Emily, I am thinking strongly about upgrading my G7 to a G85 or a much pricier GH5. I also have a GX8, but I strongly prefer the dslr body over the rangefinder. I shoot mainly product and run and gun style DIY videos for my company, for example: ua-cam.com/video/K80DBMOCONc/v-deo.html If you wouldn’t mind watching the video, I would love to hear if you think I would benefit from upgrading to the GH5 over the cheaper G85. I do use a zhiyun Crane V2, but after years of construction and tree work I have very shaky hands I think I would really benefit from the stabilization upgrade alone of the G85. What do you think?
Hi! For Stabilisation both the g85 and gh5 would be fantastic upgrades. I'd only go for the gh5 if you feel like you'd benefit from 4k at 60 frames a second. 4k in slow motion is very handy because you can crop into it 4x so I love it. Witb out that both cameras are quite similar especially for Stabilisation
I started to watch this but soon switched it off, comparison tests are meaningless, each of us purchase the camera that suits our requirements. Making a video regarding which camera is better than the other is totally pointless, there is no such thing as the perfect camera and if someone buys a camera that is missing something that the person really needed than that proves that he or she didn't research the camera.
So which one do you prefer, and why? And on a scale of 1 to 10, how over the top is it to own both 😅
Micro Four Nerds I'm a huge fan of the G7. As far as a pack and go camera, it's my favorite I've ever owned.
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Maybe it would have been a better comparison when comparing the G80/85 with the GX80/85 in terms of the product series but I guess you took these two because of the similar pricepoint?
Ugly Igor price point and just because I own them and have more experience with them really. Id love to do a comparison of the g80 I've coveted one for a while 😅
You can use mine for a test when you want but you have to pick it up in germany i guess ;)
I bought the GX85 as a travel camera. Pair it with the Lumix 35-100 and you have everything you need. BTW if you look through the viewfinder with your right eye your nose won't touch the screen.
The annoying thing with the nose moving the focus point can be stopped by disabling touch pad Af in the touch settings menu. I also wear glasses but I have no isseus with the EVF. BTW I had both the GX80 and the G7 but I recently sold the G7 and replaced it with the Olympus em5. I find this a better combination. Keep the videos going , love them
A small tip for using the GX80 without nose issues: use your right eye and keep you nose and cheek away from the camera (so unlike a DSLR). Then, keep your thumb on the touch screen at all times to select the focus point. This for me has practically eliminated any issues I had with continuous autofocus as well as nose bumps.
Maybe I should make a video about this. Happy shooting!
All your points are what made me want to love the gx80/85, but in the end the narrow hand grip and the location of the viewfinder had me go with the G7. I also felt the controls were too cramped. But it was a CLOSE thing!
Wes Allen it is close isn't it! They're both awesome in their own way
To disable evf nose touch:
Menu / Custom / Touch Settings / Touch Pad AF --> Off
It is also possible to assign a custom button to switch the touchscreen on and off. Plus I just discovered that pressing and holding a custom button allows you to reassign its function without diving through the menus!
or you can use your right eye
Thanks, Emily. Though I have no interest in the G7, your video was still helpful in identifying GX80/85 features.
I wear glasses and the viewfinder on the GX85 is a little difficult to view when wearing them. Coming from Nikon dslr’s it is definitely noticeable.
Dope comparison! I started my similar micro 4/3rds hoarding with the G7, then the I got the GX85, then I got the G85. The GX85’s IBIS was well worth the extra cost, but I did end up missing the mic input and flip out screen on the G7, thus the G85. The G85 has served me SO well, and I still use it regularly for my UA-cam videos. I sold the G7 and I don’t really use the GX85 as much as the G85, since the G85 has more features for video. But the GX85 plus a pancake lens are SO fun for taking around to street photo/random shoots where I don’t want to carry around a bunch of crap with me. I typically use the GX85 for stuff like that + b-roll. Btw love your videos and your sense of humor!
I've been eyeing the G85 too. I have the GX85, and the G7 is super cheap atm, but if I'm getting a second camera, I'd prefer it to be more of an upgrade. Then the GX85 could be the second option.
Moon Think the G85 is a combo of the best features of the GX85 and G7. Highly recommended!
Oh fancy seeing you here FredAqua!! Yeah man, I love her videos like I love yours! So I was debating picking up the GX85 but I wonder if I shouldn’t just pickup the g85 instead?!
@@lessonsfromafather3465 I picked up the gx85 recently. I will primarily use it for b roll and photos. The stabilization is butter. I would recommend the g85. I personally cannot get over not having a flippy screen and the mic input... I have a g7 and gx85. What did you end up going with?
Luke Learns I did buy a gx8 and used it for a while but realized it’s just not fitting for my hand, or style! I sold it and bought a sweet GH4 in excellent condition with 4 very good lenses for $1200...so I couldn’t pass it up!
I keep the G7 on my zhiyun crane and have built a rig around the GH4 for tripod work. I’m very happy with this decision though! Eventually when I can justify the purchase I’ll upgrade to a GH5!
Here’s a link to my company channel which I shoot all the videos using how I mentioned above:
ua-cam.com/video/MbzbmvAzRoI/v-deo.html
The best comparison video. I had looked at 3 to 5 others before this one, and thought I had enough information to make my decision. Therefore, I almost closed this tab out before watching it, thinking I had enough information to make a decision . Thankfully, I went ahead and watched this video, and am so glad that I did, as Micro Four Nerds provided the best comparison. Before listening to this, I was content with going with the G7, and then realized that I could get the best of the the G7 and the G85X by going with the G85 with very little difference in price! Great job Micro Fourn Nerds!
Let me tell you the Gx85 has my heart right away and my G9 may become a very lonely camera until I’m doing serious photo work and even then it’s a awesome street photography camera.
I forgot how much I love flip up screen versus a flippy screen for me.
I can shoot ambidextrous with my eyes so do love the placement of the viewfinder on the Gx85.
The compact size is a pleasure when it’s just casual or street photography.
And that built in flash is handy.
And dammit why doesn’t the G9 have a powered hot shoe so you can install the mini flashes powered from the camera battery like the Gx85.
Never used the G9 video so don’t care about that.
Would love to see a firmware update for the Gx85 on auto focus but it’s pretty good.
I personally can’t tell the difference between the quality of photos when I printed a 8x10. Maybe with a 16x20 print?
It’s unbelievable I’m finding myself loving this camera more than the G9 in many ways.
We have the G7 at work and I love it, its a lovely little all-around camera, though compared to my personal G9 it feels ridiculously light!
Daniel Stott haha yes! it is so so light it's unreal!
This video is basically saying to get the G80/G85. Excellent, unbiased video btw.
After this I'm super happy that I chose the G7!!! Thank you for confirming I made the right choice!
The Gx80 is a better camera overall, but i depends what youare looking for
Always enjoy your videos. For me, although I have both of these, it is GX85 all the way, so much so I bought a used one that needed repairs, but now I have two. I still have the G7 but don't use it all that much since getting the GX85's and even upgraded from the G7 to a G95. Still have the G7 but may start using it for video only on a tripod, mainly because of the lack of IBIS. The G7 has tons of great qualities and I do break it out sometimes.
My next camera will be the g7!!! I just subscribed to your channel and I love it
Another outstanding video. I have 2 of each of these and love using them.
I have gx80
I wear glasses
I hate the VF.
I love the camera!
Thanks!
Idem!
The G80 is best of both, apart from size obviously. But if I was buying a 2nd body, it'd be the GX80, would love one to just stick a prime on and leave it at that
Uncaged the g80 is the g7 and gx80 fused together basically
Hi Emily, thanks so much for your videos and I really like that you share some workflow and many samples of lenses in action. I wanted to reach out because you've used both g7 and Gx85 extensively. I just picked up the g7 and am leaning towards it because of really the grip and flip screen that I think is easier for travel vlog and similar picture quality. Does the 5axis benefit mostly just video ? Or photo as well? I am coming from Fuji and want to make the switch to pany. Also for street and portrait what would be top 3 lenses you would recommend? My kit came with 14-42 and 45-150. Thank you! I love your Malta pictures.. would you consider doing post edit video? Your photos inspire me
I had the gx80 at first but ditched it for the g80 because it is the best of g7 and gx80 mixed together. If you sum up the advantages of both cameras you basically describe the g80. I got the body only for 600 euros, that's not too much difference to my mind.
nimr0d85 bargain! Yes you're very right. The g80 is really cool. And weathersealed. Awesome option for sure
I have the G7 and really wish that it had ibis.
g85 = G7 with ibis
Just ordered a GX80 because of your videos. Definitely convinced me! ;)
+Ferdy Francis haha excellent!! I hope you love it :)
What lens are using on the camera recording this? Great video. Great info. Thanks!
I have wanted a comparison between these two cameras for some time! Thank you!! greetings from Argentina (translated with the Google translator)
Ryu Tokugawa so glad I could help 😄
I have a GX80 and a G7 and I wear glasses. I can see the EVF fine with or without my glasses although without them it is out of focus. Touching the touch screen with the nose is not a problem as you can use the LVF switch to inactivate it. I note your point about bending the GX80 flash upwards - I didn't realise that you could do it as you have to hold it in position and I worried that it would break off.
Bill Johnson I've bounced the flash a few times like that. It is springy so it feels secure enough to do. I'm not sure it is the intended use for it tho haha
As several have noted, you can absolutely disable the touch AF. I have trouble with SLR-styled cameras with my nose on the screen, but I've never had an issue with rangefinder-styled cameras with my nose on the screen because my nose is off to the left side of the camera when using the AVF.
That said, I really haven't used the EVF much on the GX85. The rear screen is really good, especially for discreet street photography. A fully articulating screen is not quite as discreet as the GX85 tilt screen. I was also used to a Nikon DSLR, which was so heavy that I HAD to use the OVF just to stabilize the thing (three point stabilization), but the GX85 is so small and light, I find that I just don't need it at my eye to stabilize the shot.
Yah, if I wasn’t left-eye dominant the position of the eye piece wouldn’t be an issue at all. But as I am, my tests with the gx85 showed the same issue, the focus point jumped all over the place. It was a bummer.
Wes Allen Huh. I never thought about dominant eye. I guess I'm right eye dominant. My first camera was a Canonette rangefinder, so I got used to sliding my nose along the left side of the camera. SLRs felt bizarre because my nose always smashed against the back of the camera.
Nathan Davis yah, it’s amazing how a few differences in how people are wired can shift the ergonomic feel in dramatic ways.
I'm a novice looking for a camera. I saw one model that has a feature that shows you if you are over, under, or correctly exposed before you take the photo.From there you can figure out on your own if you need to adjust F stop or ISO. Pretty nifty. Do either of these have a feature like that?
Yes, I think most cameras will have this now. you can use the light meter which is usually at the bottom middle of Panasonic cameras to gauge the light and change settings accordingly 😊
@@MicroFourNerds Ah I see. Thank you very much for your reply!
Nice review. I do not have both but I have got gh4 and 5 and gx80. Always a good reason to add a camera to your collection.
robbyboyo very nice combo 😊 yes there's always a reason for more cameras haha
I just discovered your channel and love it! Im looking to get a G7 to shoot guitar videos. What lens would you recommend I start out with?
I'm new to photography/videography and am overwhelmed with choosing a lens..
Keith Saavedra Hello fellow guitar video maker and G7 user! Check out the Sigma 16mm 1.4. It’ll give you a 28mm full frame equivalent which is basically the same field of view as cell phone cameras nowadays. And it’s a great lens! I really need to pick one up again...
I would have bought the GX80 if it had the flip screen and mic input. 100%.
I was so close to switching to m4/3 just for it. But I didn’t.
What did you buy?
I also have the the g7 and just bought the gx85. I love my g7 but needed the stabilization offered by the gx85. Great vid! I also plan on owning a g85 as soon as my bank account allows it. I too am now a micro four nerd...
In answer to your question about wearing glasses and using the GX80 viewfinder, I find my glasses move my nose sufficiently away from the touchscreen so as not to cause 'nose auto focus'. Another way around the problem is to use the right eye, so the nose is nowhere near the screen. I suppose another alternative would be to decrease the sensitivity of touch on the screen, but that would affect everything else too, probably not a good idea. Incidentally, having jumped the MFT ship for a while last year, in favour of canon's dual pixel af, I'm now back in the fold. I missed the convenience of MFT, and now own a G6, that I picked up for under £130, a G80, and a GX80. The last two obviously have ibis, which I missed too much for video, so the writing was on the wall for the Canons. ......🤗
I have a G7 and really love it, use it more now than my 5dmk2. I find it can be quite handy using my nose to move focus points when using viewfinder
Steve I've never thought of actually using it to my advantage! I will give that a try
whats your les?
By chance, is there A method you use to get cameras easier? Maybe websites outside of B&H? They're more expensive.
Edit: I'm only asking because I've also watched one of your videos where you mentioned one of your favorite cheap lenses and calling yourself cheap lol (So am I to an extent) so I figured you may have A easier way to get what you want. Regardless, keep up the great work
I’m a big fan of eBay and local personal selling apps like gumtree etc. You tend to find lenses hold their value but camera bodies plummet like stones. Lots of bargains to be found 😁
I'm a spectacle wearer, and have no trouble using the GX80 viewfinder. I don't experience 'nose af' either, because I use my right eye, so the nose is well away from the screen.
i love my gx80 but wear glasses and the evf is terrible to use, although i do my best i mainly end up using the screen. there seems to be an issue with a lot of these cameras with delamination of the evf over time, would be interested if this can be repaired or replaced and the costs involved.
Hey, I'm unsure which camera I should buy.
I want a camera for using for family- and vacation-photos. So normally, I would tend to the GX80, because of the more stabilizers. Would you agree?
The only thing, that's holding me back from buying is, that I'd like to make some UA-cam videos (indoor, miniature painting) and so I'd miss the audio line-in, that comes with the G7(0). But, maybe the whole UA-cam idea is stupid and I cut it ... so: If I'm not making any videos: Would be the GX80 the better camera? You know, for making a fast shot (cause my one year old boy, doesn't wait very long for me to take a picture)
If you can find a g80, rather than a Gx80, that would solve all your problems. Stabilised, weathersealed and great audio! It’s bigger style more like a g7
Very nice and humorous comparison :-)
I own and use both, though I prefer the G7 in every situation where I don't need IBIS or smallest possible size (G80 + 20mm 1.7 pancake is a lovely combination).
The G80's EVF is really poor - If i could put my old GH1's EVF into the G80 (or even G7), I would do it!
It's so cool to film with my old adapted (Nikon) glass and have IBIS, but not really with a bad EVF.
Emily, how would you compare the EVFs of G7 and GH5 (or, if you've ever tried, G85)?
Thanks a lot!
Josef Weisleitner the Gh5 evf really is in a league of its own. Its bright, sharp and some how bigger. And I hear the g9 is even better! I've only had a brief look at the g85 in a store, and took some quick test shots. It had the build quality of the Gh5 but to my eye the evf looked quite similar to the g7. I didn't play with it for long tho so I cant be sure. The gx80 is the worst evf of the bunch
Thanks for the video and commentary. I am looking at the GX80/GX85 as a travel camera. Can you tell me whether there is any freez-up of the EVF between shutter snaps? In other words, does the EVF freeze for a period of time while the image saves to disk?
I’m not too sure to be honest I have mine blink then display a preview for a few seconds so I can review my work. If you turn off the preview I reckon it’ll just blink for a second and carry on. That’s what happens in burst mode as you can’t review each photo
Planning to buy. Which one would you recommend for portrait studio sessions?
Possibly the g7 just because the gx80 is a bit small and feels a bit small when you add triggers and flashguns to it
I was just reading an old entry in David Thorpe's blog how a photographer friend of his missed a scoop because he didn't have a camera with him (back in pre-mobile phone days) and I quickly thought what a great combination the GX85 with its pancake zoom is as a everyday everywhere camera. I guess the newer choice would be the GX9 but for the mild difference in line and accent, somehow the GX85 is still the better looking one.
One more thing, I have had a serious GAS problem for a few years now, can't seem to get rid of any of my cameras and keep adding lenses and attachments. I did manage to give away a Canon Rebel to my daughter and another one to my Grand daughter so am M43 and Nikon only shooter only now.
Hi, what lights do you use (every lights, leds, and softboxes or circle lights etc) i like the ambiance of your main shot very much
I'm currently using a Aputure Tri 8c as my main light. It's so cool because it's dimmable and you can change the temperature as well. Love it!
@@MicroFourNerds a bit expensive xD
I thought shooting in the Cinelike profiles wasn’t recommended because you lose data that you can’t add back in later since the bit depth isn’t high enough like the GH5?
FoodTechLife hmm I've got really good results from it so far. I kind of have to really because otherwise it wouldn't grade with my other footage and stick out
Micro Four Nerds Ok good to know - thanks.
I use natural with reduced contrast/saturation and it looks almost as flat as CinelikeD, is good for grading and has nice colors!
Speaking of features, have you ever tried the "Snap Movie" feature? Essentially, it lets you perform a precise and smooth focus pull with all those focus-by-wire lenses. Turn off all the fade-ins and fade-outs and all the other nonsense, just select 8 sec and the focus points. Works great and is a serious feature imho.
It's like a heavily stripped down version of the GH5's focus pull feature (where you can select multiple focus points, adjust speed etc., all without a record limit), but it is still very useful!
Tobias Moeckel which camera has this? I've always thought only the GH5 has it since it wasn't never ever mentioned with another Panasonic camera.
You know, I only watched a promo video on this just yesterday, it looks awesome, and I use the A B focus pulling quite a lot on my Gh5
The Good Ketchup The G7 has it. I don't know about other models, but would guess the G85 has it, too. It's the third item on the "motion picture" page of the menu, called Snap Movie.
Micro Four Nerds I think it is one hell of a feature that gets way too little attention. The snap movie feature on the G7 [menu>motion picture>snap movie] seems a bit gimmicky in comparison, but is nonetheless very usable.
‘Camera hoarding issues’! Oh, dear! Can I ever relate to that! Thanks for the comparison.
Glasses: that is what the dioptric adjustment does- remove glasses, adjust wheel next to viewfinder. Lack of flash. Professional photographers use either a smart remote on the hot shoe or a pro flash on an L bracket. Why inflate the price on something rarely used. Great review - I have the GX85 and it is killer 4K video.
Thank you! Im considering getting a new body to go along with my Oly EM5 II. These two are options (mainly for the 4k video) I'm considering so your video is usefull to me. However since my current camera has a 16mp sensor Im thinking of getting one with a bigger sensor. Do you think that difference of sensor is important? Thanks again!
Tomas Hernandez hi! For video the sensor size won't make much of a difference as 4k is only 8mp anyway. For stills it is handy to be able to crop more in post production with the 20mp, but you still have plenty of wiggle room with 16mp😊
Micro Four Nerds gotcha, thanks!
Nice, you have a calm presentation, you should do more of these. Good work!
You've probably already figured out how to turn of the touch Af: Cusom>Touch Settings>Touch AF!
I have both of these cameras, I've only had the GX85 for a month, and the EVF is a bit uncomfy, especially with glasses! I mainly just use the screen, not the EVF.
Micro Four Nerds how do you get Cinelike D in the GX80?? 1:29 The G7 was my entry into Panasonic-land (after hating m4/3 because of an Olympus...), now I rock a Gh5 and a GX80, but I'd love a flatter profile to shoot with. I know I won't get V-log, but... How did you get Cinelike D ?! :D :D Great channel BTW. Note: you mention tweaking at 4:20, have you made some video on "how to"?
Roger in Finland thanks! I had a similar experience starting with Olympus, then finding Panasonic and loving it. If you have a look on UA-cam to add cine d to the gx80, there are lots of tutorials. It's quite simple to do you can just follow along and set it up in minutes 😊
Just saw this video today, 4 yrs later, and just wondering what are you up to now, are you still heavily into photography, cameras and lens collection? Seems like I just arrived at the G/GX rave a bit late, I just got all 3 models with me to help me decide and I can’t really pick one. I do find myself using the GX85 more maybe because of its size, looks and feel, so that is the winner. The G95 wins in terms of features overload, but I don’t use many of those features often so that doesn’t matter. The whole 20 mega pixel is no advantage, images from the G95 look soft, dull, and not as sharp or crisp. I think the G85 is the happy medium between the two, a bit bigger than the GX but not as robust as the G95, better image quality than the G95 in my opinion. So, it is hard to choose one. The G95 is huge in size, but feels light and comfortable to hold. The G85 feels tiny and heavy, it hurts after a while. The G95 has a more mature interface, easier and more pleasant to use, but it doesn’t output pleasing image quality, lackluster results. The G95 is hard to hold and use, but produces very pleasing images. The GX85 lacks in every area, limited functionality, hard to use and hold, but it looks good, it feels good, you are more tempted to grab it, you use it more, and the final image results are excellent, although the 12-32 kit lens is not good at all. The 12-60 and the 45-150 are both excellent kit lens. So, there you have it. Six of one and half dozen of the others. For studio work the G85, for out and about the GX85, I would skip the G95. So, true that today 4yrs later, the GX85/G85 are both holding their resale price and value, but today the G95 sells new for the same price as the G85. That tells you it is not a good performer.
I did my comparison video just some weeks ago.😀 I wear glasses and have to take them off when using the GX80s EVF and that is quite annoying.
Tea Jay Photography ooh I'll check it out!
Micro Four Nerds, do you know if the screen rate(the both have 3inch screen) is the same for the both cameras ? I want to buy LCDEV and I found only for G7 and I thought if it fits on GX80...
do the g7 have focus peeking when used with a native DSLR lens with a speedbooster?
Nikon 35mm 1.8?
I have the GX80 and I wear glasses. I've gotten used to it and have no problems anymore. I set the touchscreen that way, that it works like a joystick. So in viewfinder mode my face won't change the position of the focus point and I can use my right thumb to position the focus without it jumping to my thumb position.
I bet someone described that before here, but I don't remember what the actual settings were, so I have no clue about that. :)
Can the GX80's screen be viewed on a mobile through wifi, or be remote controled? Also use your right eye to look through the view finder ;-)
It can be viewed and controlled via the Panasonic app, and I do use my right eye - I still hit my stupid nose on the screen 😂 or maybe its my cheek actually?! Lol
What do you think of the kit lenses they come with? Which one is better?
I got my g7 body only off display unfortunately so I can't compare them. I do quite like the gx80 stock lens, great for a walkabout lens, though it doesn't hold up well in back-lit situations
Thanks! I really want to get the G7 but I've been told the 14 mm kit lens isn't wide enough (I'll be recording indoor music performances in small places). Do you know of any budget (around $300) wide angle lenses for MFT?
@@randrade89 Meike do a really nice 12mm f2.8 lens, I have a review on my channel somewhere of it. Its very sharp but is manual focus only, which can be a deal breaker for some people. Wide angle lenses that are affordable and fast are like unicorns for this system unfortunately!
Thanks! I'll have a look :)
On my G81 you can toggle the behaviour of the touch pad between absolute and relative positioning. Set it to relative and a touch won't bother you as long as you don't swipe across the screen. That solved it for me. Don't know if there is a similar setting on the GX80 though but if then you should give it a try.
Marc Roggenbuck-van der Heyde yes it is called offset on the gx85
What cheap camera do you currently recommend for mainly photography?
Gx85 I think. I still use mine a lot for photography and projects ☺️
I agree that the smallish view finder for those like myself who wear glasses, requires pressing up against the eye cup. But invariably, because of my oily nose and large pores, my touch screen can get funky fast. Gross.
I thought I had alot of lenses, but seeing your collection makes me feel less guilty. Never used the GX80 and don't really plan to. My G7 is my B cam for my G85 and hopefully within a few months will go to being a C cam/leave at home cam when I get a GH5. I really can't picture myself getting something without a mic input.
ALXMNR those three would be a killer lineup for sure
Good
Thank you ❤️
Yeah my nose bumps into the screen and changes the focus point by accident all the time but I just readjust it with my nose and it works well enough. ;)
what about video recording?
First and foremost, that's some battle damage on that 17mm f1.8!
Secondly, that's a nice comparison between the two, I'd almost be curious about a G85 vs GX85 comparison, even if certain aspects of that miiiight be a tad unfair ^_^
What would be really awesome is a rangefinder style body that's still nice and compact, weather sealed, and has a somewhat larger EVF so those with glasses can readily use it...
White Wulfe ha!! I was wondering if anyone would notice my battered lens! I dropped it recently in Malta and now it won't take filters anymore. So annoying!
Again, great video. I also had the same two cameras myself. I say "had" since I sold G7. And that's only because I have em1ii(similar look, size as G7). One thing I couldn't see until I had both in hands was the weight. Boy, that gx80 is noticeably heavier. At least to my impression.
One comment. You can turn off the touch focus on gx80. I don't have the camera with me right now so I can't point out how, but I know because I turn it off all the time.
One more comment of my gx80 experience. The mode dial turns by accident quite often. It didn't happen with G7 or em1ii, but gx80 was quite annoying in that regard.
blindkkj it is very heavy given its size isn't it?! It shocked me haha
I only have the GX80, so can't compare, but the biggest downside i have with it is the flat interface. I'm constantly changing the focus point on the touch screen by accident and I also find it hard to find back button focus button just by touch alone, I always have to take the camera away from my face to put my thumb over it again. If there was a lip around the screen like other cameras, i think it would be a lot better. This is just a minor issue though really as I really do enjoy using it.
Dave Arkanoid Gilbert When I use my right eye for the EVF I have no problem with my nose touching the screen. Also you can disable that function in the menue.
It's not my nose that moves it. It's my hand or fingers when using the function buttons or just generally holding it. Because of the flat back to the camera your hand just naturally touches the screen. I may end up disabling the touch function. Cheers :)
For those of us with bad vision in the right eye, it's not an option. :(
hi Emily. i hope that you are fine and well. I enjoy watching your videos and i really like the way you explain different things about photography and m43 system. if you don't mind, i need a recommendation from you. i have an olympus e-m10 mark ii. as the time passes, i noticed some missing parts that i need. as the winter season arrived, i need a weather proof camera and i also need an external mic input for quality recording. at the moment, there is a bargain for Panasonic g85 with 12-60 and 45-200 lenses in bhphoto. is it possible for you to recommend this package in order to fulfil my needs?
The g85 is an absolute beast. I was about to recommend it before you mentioned it haha and if there's a good deal on it then that's even better! The g85 will have eveything you need.
@@MicroFourNerds it's great to hear that i made the right choice. it looks like, i am learning from the master 😊 i will be waiting for your new educational videos. take care of yourself
I think you might have got the hint now that you can disable the touch screen facilities on the gx80 thus avoiding the nose wandering focal point issues. =)
Sam Bowen just about haha!
Thanks for this. Bought one of each. G7 for "always on a tripod" vid and GX85 for when I need to move.
Ha exactly the same for me 😁
nice job
So what do you recommend as a first camera? The GX85 or G7?
G7 with gimbal better than GX85?
How about a used G85/G80 for a little bit more?
what lens did you use @8:06?
Jor JorJor that was the lumix 35-100mm 2.8 😊
Micro Four Nerds okay thanks 😀
Great content - new subscriber here! :)
As someone who wears glasses, I can't even begin to tell you how much of a pain in the butt it is. I tried it out before buying it and I could see RGB dots all over the panel. I almost bought it online without testing the EVF first, so I'm glad I did get to test it first.
Thankfully the GX8 has a better viewfinder, so the RGB dots issue is non-existent. Although it was twice the price of the GX80/85, I went with the GX8 and I don't regret it one bit.
Side note, I also owned the G7 for a short period of time and it didn't have that RGB dots issue either, so it must be a GX80/85 issue.
please i'm being a dummy. what does 5 stops of stabilization mean?
paul not a dummy at all! It means, in theory, you could get a steady shot 5 stops darker than an unstabilised camera. Except the shot won't be darker. Meaning you can use a longer shutterspeed and the image will come out stable. For instance on the gx80 you can shoot at 1/10th of a second quite easily, but on the g7 that would come out blurred
Micro Four Nerds thank you... I hear this a lot with reviews of cameras but never quite understood it... Thanks :)
G7 vs gx80????
If the G7(0) had IBIS, i would pick it for sure. But sadly, without a gimbal, the footage is nearly unusable, when doing quicker movements. I have the G70 and i had borrowed a friends GX80 and i dislike alot of things about it. I dont like how it lays in your hands, i dont like how you access the menu ( i think there were less control buttons), the viewfinder is not very nice to use... but the IBIS just is such a big deal for videos, so if i had the choice again, i dont know if i would go for the G70, although with stabilization, it would be one of the best beginner cameras.
I’m a hoarder too
Grant Astro haha yes camera hoarders anonymous!
Micro Four Nerds I got the g7 first and then I was like hmm maybe I’ll sell it and get the gx85... i currently have both at the moment
Hey Emily, I am thinking strongly about upgrading my G7 to a G85 or a much pricier GH5. I also have a GX8, but I strongly prefer the dslr body over the rangefinder. I shoot mainly product and run and gun style DIY videos for my company, for example:
ua-cam.com/video/K80DBMOCONc/v-deo.html
If you wouldn’t mind watching the video, I would love to hear if you think I would benefit from upgrading to the GH5 over the cheaper G85. I do use a zhiyun Crane V2, but after years of construction and tree work I have very shaky hands I think I would really benefit from the stabilization upgrade alone of the G85. What do you think?
Hi! For Stabilisation both the g85 and gh5 would be fantastic upgrades. I'd only go for the gh5 if you feel like you'd benefit from 4k at 60 frames a second. 4k in slow motion is very handy because you can crop into it 4x so I love it. Witb out that both cameras are quite similar especially for Stabilisation
Do you regret purchasing the GX85?
I don't, it's a little beast for personal stuff, and very handy as a third angle for video work 😊
You're confusing everything
What do you mean?
@@MicroFourNerds 😂 got confusing which camera you were talking about 😂 idk
@@MYTHICALLY3D ooh ok haha I thought you meant I’d said some of the specs wrong 🙈 thanks for watching 😊
the 7 is plasticy and cheap feeling and sooooo ugly. I mean REAL ugly.
I started to watch this but soon switched it off, comparison tests are meaningless, each of us purchase the camera that suits our requirements. Making a video regarding which camera is better than the other is totally pointless, there is no such thing as the perfect camera and if someone buys a camera that is missing something that the person really needed than that proves that he or she didn't research the camera.