If the C-HR had the 2 litre hybrid as Europe gets and also the Lexus UX hybrid. It would be a great little car. Bring it here Toyota Australia! Great review as always Tom!
I appreciate these kinds of reviews, as much as Dealers/Manufacturers I reckon woudn’t. Not that we should care much what they think. Here’s hoping for a CX-30 vs CX-5 or Sportage vs Seltos soon!
Hey Tom, thanks for another thorough test. I have been running RAV4 GX AWD Hybrid on the fleet for 8 months now and having no problems to date. I like the GXL, but it’s too pricey for renters. Waited 5 months for delivery last year and the wait is longer this year for RAV4, Yaris Cross, Kluger and Camry Hybrids which we also run. I can however say its worth the wait for the RAV4, which is is a quality product with good resale.
I had a C-HR 2019 and now bought a RAV4 GX 2022 model. C-HR is fancier inside and out with more features but 1.2 turbo didn't help much with the drive since liked a bit more power to start with. Space was another concern. RAV4 is 2.0L FWD and not as powerful as the 2.5L ones I have driven before. However now 2.5L is available only in higher grade models. On RAV4 kids can see the outside properly, unlike in the C-HR. For a family of 4 need some boot space so RAV4 is the better option.
As much as my ideal would have been the RAV4, the parking space I have in the Uk/ France (two countries I live in) are too small. So far my only regret with the chr is the boot size, but the fuel economy I’m having with it is so huge it doesn’t matter anymore! Would not trade my CH-R for anything!
Its nice to hear it does good on the contry roads as well. I do 80% of my driving at 120km/h and about 35000km per year. I am considering the GX Hybrid.
I averaged 5.9 Litres per 100 klm in my 2021 GX fwd hybrid and that was a 1,250 klm round trip fully loaded mostly highway driving at 110 km/h so I’m pretty happy with the fuel economy
@@johnchapman2451 I have mine 5x months and 22000km on the odo. Over that period, my true average is 16.5km/ ( the car claims 17.3) Truly happy with that.
This video would of been useful a month ago when I was seriously considering one of these. RAV4 is definitely best value for money you can get under $50,000 in my opinion. CH-R was nice but rear was very claustrophobic. Didn’t end up buying either of these though😂
We got new RAV4 petrol when it first launched at the beginning of 2020 and it is a great SUV but the one thing I would have done differently if I could at the time was to go for the hybrid for the extra power (when it first launched there was a 4-month wait on the hybrid)
Great review, well done! I was surprised to learn the C-HR was designed in Italy. I does look European, and the Koba in particular feels very luxurious. I have owned a RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser AWD since September 2020 and my average combined consumption is 5.2 litres. I coast a lot before I brake and am always very gentle on the accelerator. I would consider the C-HR for two adults and lots of urban or country road driving, but for road trips the RAV4 Hybrid would definitely always be my first choice. I could not be happier with the RAV4 Hybrid, but do go for the Cruiser!
Put a Rav4 GXL hybrid on order her in NZ around a month ago - it should arrive in late January or early February. I know a lot of new competing models are coming for 2022 but it's hard to ignore the benefits of the hybrid system. I personally am drawn to it for the additional power as we live in rural NZ and drive on a lot of hills, especially if heading into Wellington. The better fuel economy is just a great bonus. As much as the new Sportage or Outlander look interesting, they just don't compete on value IMO, especially here in NZ where if you aren't going for the top spec models, you really do miss out.
Agree Tom the CHR has dynamic depth and finish I appreciate but can understand choosing the larger car if you need the room - in base 1.2 turbo form CHR a joy to drive so gets my vote 👍
Would be much more volatile if they allow the rear seats to be adjusted more against the boot size. Imagine having more room by just push back the seats when necessary.
I wouldn’t say get a chr because you’ll be waiting for the rav4. I’m in WA signed on the line in April for a chr Koba hybrid, not being built in Japan until July and I will not get it until end of sept so wouldn’t say it was the speediest option.
Very Good Review, I thought C-HR was made by Lexus? My question is how would the C-HR take Golf Clubs, I drive a CX3 at the moment but thinking of upgrading to a C-HR
For these family cars, are you able to show fitting a larger child seat? Eg the britax safensound bfirst? It’s always hard to tell otherwise. I was surprised to find this seat actually fits in my ISF.
I agree, i would love to see something like "does it fit a car seat" or "does a full-size pram fit in the boot" with cars like the RAV4 that are clearly aimed at families. P.S. We have a new RAV4 and yes it takes a Britex safe'n'sound just fine although I would like the rear doors to open wider but that is a minor pet-peev.
In other markets the CHR gets the 2.0 corrolla eng na and the in hybrid model it's 2.0 why do we in Aus miss out on the bigger eng instead we lumbered with 1.2 T that would pull the skin off a and require 95ron
In the UK we get the 1.8 and the 2.0 engines on the C-HR. Run a mile before buying the 1.8 as its flat as hell and will drive to up the wall with poor performance . The RAV 4 has become a monster sized SUV and far too big compared with the original version. Hopeless for city driving trying to find a parking space
Mate, I was supposed to have had my rav in august and now I’m pushed back to October. They should place more resources on ravs and stop sending the majority of them to other countries first!
chr is ki9nd of ugly to my eyes but the seats and ride are excellent as is economy and driving poise, chr is an excellent small suv but probablky not for a family
You can stop reviewing ice or hybrid cars now. EV is the future and should encourage everyone to buy EVs. I have decided to buy BYD E6 instead of rav4 hybrid.
We don’t work with manufacturers or dealers to sell cars, and Toyota had no idea this was going to be filmed. We are owned by an insurance company so we don’t have to do that stuff.
RAV4: 95 kW/t is quite acceptable using 4.8 L/100km (6 as tested) pushing 1745 kg thru a CVT 4wd C-HR: 62 kW/t is quite forgettable using 4.6 L/100km (5 as tested) pushing 1460 kg thru a CVT 2wd Where is that fuel going in the CH-R if it's not apparently making power and is considerably lighter? Weird.
The C-HR is using a little 1.2L engine matched to the hybrid drivetrain so it is going to be far less efficient at highway speeds which hurts the overall numbers. Or at least that is my guess.
@@CathodeRayNipplez given it has that older engine, and a larger, heavier wheel/tyre combo than the gen3 prius which weighs the same with thinner eco tyres, it’s actually good as that gen averages 5.1-5.4 real world (Fuelly.com) The new tech and efficiency in the rav4 is really leaps and bounds ahead of the chr given the weight disparity.
@@jdael2005 By older do you mean pre 2009? I'm not saying the C-HR fuel economy is bad, I'm saying that for that fuel use the power output is simply pathetic.
Is it because it is the GR version which has a bit different front and rear design? The Koba model is the same as I have seen from photos and videos in other countries
The RAV4 outsells the C-HR by 4 to 1 - let’s see if there’s a reason why.
It can't be on looks surely?
Size pretty much. Would you Yaris cross or C-HR?
The insurance for RAV4 shows as Volkswagen Golf. Just a feedback mate
who knows[?] - anyway. I'd opt for the Tuscon instead
how can it be outselling if there's a 12 month wait? :-(
In Europe we get the CHR with a 2.0 liter hybrid engine. The same engine from the Lexus UX250. Its a quite powerful 180hp powertrain for the CHR.
If the C-HR had the 2 litre hybrid as Europe gets and also the Lexus UX hybrid. It would be a great little car. Bring it here Toyota Australia! Great review as always Tom!
I appreciate these kinds of reviews, as much as Dealers/Manufacturers I reckon woudn’t. Not that we should care much what they think. Here’s hoping for a CX-30 vs CX-5 or Sportage vs Seltos soon!
I am surprised by the small price gap between the Rav4 and C-HR. The C-HR looks better, bht the Rav4 is more practical. Heart vs Mind...
chr is more fun to drive too, that makes it a tough choice for me.
@@shivamarya5225 i hear you.
Hey Tom, thanks for another thorough test. I have been running RAV4 GX AWD Hybrid on the fleet for 8 months now and having no problems to date. I like the GXL, but it’s too pricey for renters. Waited 5 months for delivery last year and the wait is longer this year for RAV4, Yaris Cross, Kluger and Camry Hybrids which we also run. I can however say its worth the wait for the RAV4, which is is a quality product with good resale.
My introvert teens loves the cave like dungeon back seat. 😁
I had a C-HR 2019 and now bought a RAV4 GX 2022 model. C-HR is fancier inside and out with more features but 1.2 turbo didn't help much with the drive since liked a bit more power to start with. Space was another concern. RAV4 is 2.0L FWD and not as powerful as the 2.5L ones I have driven before. However now 2.5L is available only in higher grade models.
On RAV4 kids can see the outside properly, unlike in the C-HR. For a family of 4 need some boot space so RAV4 is the better option.
As much as my ideal would have been the RAV4, the parking space I have in the Uk/ France (two countries I live in) are too small. So far my only regret with the chr is the boot size, but the fuel economy I’m having with it is so huge it doesn’t matter anymore! Would not trade my CH-R for anything!
Excellent relaxed and informative presentation, convinced us to go with CHR. Thanks
Its nice to hear it does good on the contry roads as well. I do 80% of my driving at 120km/h and about 35000km per year.
I am considering the GX Hybrid.
And I have it and I love it!
I averaged 5.9 Litres per 100 klm in my 2021 GX fwd hybrid and that was a 1,250 klm round trip fully loaded mostly highway driving at 110 km/h so I’m pretty happy with the fuel economy
@@johnchapman2451 I have mine 5x months and 22000km on the odo. Over that period, my true average is 16.5km/ ( the car claims 17.3)
Truly happy with that.
This video would of been useful a month ago when I was seriously considering one of these. RAV4 is definitely best value for money you can get under $50,000 in my opinion. CH-R was nice but rear was very claustrophobic. Didn’t end up buying either of these though😂
We got new RAV4 petrol when it first launched at the beginning of 2020 and it is a great SUV but the one thing I would have done differently if I could at the time was to go for the hybrid for the extra power (when it first launched there was a 4-month wait on the hybrid)
Great review, well done! I was surprised to learn the C-HR was designed in Italy. I does look European, and the Koba in particular feels very luxurious. I have owned a RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser AWD since September 2020 and my average combined consumption is 5.2 litres. I coast a lot before I brake and am always very gentle on the accelerator. I would consider the C-HR for two adults and lots of urban or country road driving, but for road trips the RAV4 Hybrid would definitely always be my first choice. I could not be happier with the RAV4 Hybrid, but do go for the Cruiser!
The CHR just looks so outlandish from the back
Interesting pivot with this review, considering the circumstances surrounding the car industry as of late.
Put a Rav4 GXL hybrid on order her in NZ around a month ago - it should arrive in late January or early February. I know a lot of new competing models are coming for 2022 but it's hard to ignore the benefits of the hybrid system. I personally am drawn to it for the additional power as we live in rural NZ and drive on a lot of hills, especially if heading into Wellington. The better fuel economy is just a great bonus. As much as the new Sportage or Outlander look interesting, they just don't compete on value IMO, especially here in NZ where if you aren't going for the top spec models, you really do miss out.
thing i like about the ch r is the back. it doesn't look like a mini van which is my main gripe about a lot of cross overs.
This would have been a better test using the 2ltr Chr we have here in the uk. it produces 184bhp and is an absolute gem.
Did I miss the C-HR vs Yaris Cross comparison?
Agree Tom the CHR has dynamic depth and finish I appreciate but can understand choosing the larger car if you need the room - in base 1.2 turbo form CHR a joy to drive so gets my vote 👍
Kinda wish the RAV4 took more styling cues from the C-HR.
Great info well done review thank you.
@Chasing Cars Hi Tom. Is that pricing for the GX or GXL Rav4? Every GXL I've looked at is $44.5k in 2021.
why does the chr look different in some countries? The front is designed completely differently
Thanks for this....you are terrific! very helpful!
I love your attention to detail xx
Would be much more volatile if they allow the rear seats to be adjusted more against the boot size. Imagine having more room by just push back the seats when necessary.
I wouldn’t say get a chr because you’ll be waiting for the rav4. I’m in WA signed on the line in April for a chr Koba hybrid, not being built in Japan until July and I will not get it until end of sept so wouldn’t say it was the speediest option.
My C-HR having 377 liters trunk boot capacity , but is NOT having spare tyre, just emergency spare tyre repair set .
Great review!
Thanks!
Are Toyota bringing the Corolla Cross to Australia?
Very Good Review, I thought C-HR was made by Lexus? My question is how would the C-HR take Golf Clubs, I drive a CX3 at the moment but thinking of upgrading to a C-HR
I think they would just fit as long as you don't have a giant golf bag! Not sure you'd get a trolley in as well though as the boot is tiny.
RAV4 with a Hyundai Santa Fe and the C-HR are Tucson and Kona
I'd be stuck between the two.
Can't decide.
If size wasn't an issue.
Same dilemma
So decided to wait for next year since there's the Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid, New Nissan Qashqai Hybrid and New Honda HRV Hybrid
For these family cars, are you able to show fitting a larger child seat? Eg the britax safensound bfirst? It’s always hard to tell otherwise. I was surprised to find this seat actually fits in my ISF.
I agree, i would love to see something like "does it fit a car seat" or "does a full-size pram fit in the boot" with cars like the RAV4 that are clearly aimed at families.
P.S. We have a new RAV4 and yes it takes a Britex safe'n'sound just fine although I would like the rear doors to open wider but that is a minor pet-peev.
Did you guys change out your gimble or camera setup?
There was a lot of really distracting wobbling going on in this one.
Substitute crew due to lockdown. Apologies. We’re doing our very best.
@@chasingcars All good, still fantastic content as usual.
Gotta wait like 1yr for a RAV4
In other markets the CHR gets the 2.0 corrolla eng na and the in hybrid model it's 2.0 why do we in Aus miss out on the bigger eng instead we lumbered with 1.2 T that would pull the skin off a and require 95ron
Should see more hybrid competition from the Koreans and maybe even Chinese in 2022.
Well said review
Wish they would have done more to the interior of the gr sport chr, it just looks a bit bland
Imagine if C-HR was 15 cm longer and 4WD
In the UK we get the 1.8 and the 2.0 engines on the C-HR. Run a mile before buying the 1.8 as its flat as hell and will drive to up the wall with poor performance . The RAV 4 has become a monster sized SUV and far too big compared with the original version. Hopeless for city driving trying to find a parking space
Mate, I was supposed to have had my rav in august and now I’m pushed back to October. They should place more resources on ravs and stop sending the majority of them to other countries first!
It's not just the RAV4 for Australia, there is a global car shortage at the moment, something about some pandemic going around. 🤷♂️
@@ryant2568 is there a pandemic?
Thanks
I'm not use to see right wheel. It looks awkward.
Dont like the chr rear side or rear mirror view
Why compare two vehicles from two different market???
Corolla Cross is coming
True. Certainly less interesting to look at than the C-HR, though.
@@chasingcars size-wise, I reckon it hits a sweet-spot. A mid-spec hybrid at around the $40k mark might just be the pick of the bunch!
@12:44 watch out for that dip, its nasty !
You Mates also drive on the wrong side of the road. No wonder you have more wrecks and talk that way.
Problem with the Rav4 is it's hideous to look at. Would feel depressed looking at that on the drive
"more soft, more tight,...", grammar
Toyota CHR fuel consumption is extremely high
Is consider a Rav if it wasn’t so boring on the inside. Toyota are good but really need to stop felling on it’s name
chr is ki9nd of ugly to my eyes but the seats and ride are excellent as is economy and driving poise, chr is an excellent small suv but probablky not for a family
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What accent is this. Looky Heere mate!!!!!
None of them are worth wait toyota is abit tight arse make good engines but luxury is non existing they cheap out on most of there models.
but you don't buy Toyota for Luxury, if you want luxury you go to their sister brand Lexus.
You buy Toyota for practicality and reliability.
You can stop reviewing ice or hybrid cars now.
EV is the future and should encourage everyone to buy EVs. I have decided to buy BYD E6 instead of rav4 hybrid.
We aren't going to stop reviewing 98 per cent of the market at this point
@@chasingcars I understand, disappointed with Toyota hybrid because of 12 months wait time, sorry to rant on you :)
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It sounds like Chasing Cars are trying to help Toyota off load all the unwanted CHR stock
We don’t work with manufacturers or dealers to sell cars, and Toyota had no idea this was going to be filmed. We are owned by an insurance company so we don’t have to do that stuff.
Rav 4 infotainment and dash 🤢
1st comment
The two are ugly design and color.
It is good for taxi so shut up monster.
what do you know about cars? are you profesional, engineer , ? or just guy who thinks that hi can drive car
Yes, you got it - I’m a professional.
RAV4: 95 kW/t is quite acceptable using 4.8 L/100km (6 as tested) pushing 1745 kg thru a CVT 4wd
C-HR: 62 kW/t is quite forgettable using 4.6 L/100km (5 as tested) pushing 1460 kg thru a CVT 2wd
Where is that fuel going in the CH-R if it's not apparently making power and is considerably lighter? Weird.
The C-HR is using a little 1.2L engine matched to the hybrid drivetrain so it is going to be far less efficient at highway speeds which hurts the overall numbers. Or at least that is my guess.
The chr hybrid system still uses the older gen 1.8L hybrid from the prius so less efficient, as what the presenter said.
@@jdael2005 I heard what Tom said but didn't appreciate how less efficient (read crap) it is.
Those numbers are hopeless.
@@CathodeRayNipplez given it has that older engine, and a larger, heavier wheel/tyre combo than the gen3 prius which weighs the same with thinner eco tyres, it’s actually good as that gen averages 5.1-5.4 real world (Fuelly.com) The new tech and efficiency in the rav4 is really leaps and bounds ahead of the chr given the weight disparity.
@@jdael2005 By older do you mean pre 2009? I'm not saying the C-HR fuel economy is bad, I'm saying that for that fuel use the power output is simply pathetic.
why does the chr look different in some countries? The front is designed completely differently
Is it because it is the GR version which has a bit different front and rear design? The Koba model is the same as I have seen from photos and videos in other countries