Polygon Helios A8X First Look - The BEST Value On The Market Today
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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As a owner of the A9x(basically the same bike with Dura Ace groupers)I agree with most of what you said in the video. I'm 6 ft 2 so I have no other choice than the size XL, the geometry like you said is more endurance, I agree with that. I also own a size ML Giant TCR ADV SL, the two have basically the same reach and stack, so I would say the Polygon have smaller sizing compare to Giant. As far as the bike and how it rides, we have to agree that is a heavy bike. I swapped the tire to Schwable Pro one tire and the saddle to Sworks romin with mirror, and the bike still weights close to 8KG with garmin mount and paddles ----- Later I put the Dura-Ace groupset and the C60 wheels to the TCR and the bike weights only 7.2kg with everything. Another thing is a buddy of mine got the A8x, we both think the vision metron bar is good but way to stiff for everyday riders like us -- both of us got numb hands after long rides and ever since I swap the handlebar the numbness went away. The bike ride great but the rear end just feel heavier than my lively TCR frame(granted ADV sl is the top of the shelf product), I do also recommend to change the wheelset for some lighter ones. Currently my Helios is running 38cm bars, Force etap with red cassettes and chains, with a 1370g princeton carbon works wheelset+TPU inner tube+ GP5000 tire, the bike weights 7.78kg with paddles and everything. I know you just went through a tough warranty claim with Giant and I did the same with Polygon. Polygon brand does not have direct customer service so everything have to go through local dealer/distributor. My bike developed a hairline crack on the top tube and I didn't have any response from the dealer/distributor for two month after I filed my claim. After two month they just claimed that it was all my fault based on a photo that I sent(without any physical inspection). I was furious since if their b***s**t photo assessment was nonsense. I emailed directly to polygon themselves and then demand my frame to be examined physically. Eventually they did have my frame check and insisted it was all my fault, but they were willing to give me a frame for free but I have to cover the cost of importation for like $150, which I accept. Other than the warranty issue, everything else is great with the bike. I enjoyed the paint job a lot, it looks amazing under sunlight, for sure looks great in the photos.
Comment pinned for visibility. Thank you so much for chiming in!
Doesn't say much about their frame quality if the top tube cracks
@@richardggeorge No brand is above potential defects.
I know. I was not complaining about the quality though, just rant about the warranty process. I asked serval other LBS and none of them had definitive conclusion if the crack was actually on the frame. One shop owner said trek madone feels softer than my supposedly "cracked" frame, he said it might be just the paint issue but they have to sand down the paint job for inspection. I honstly didn't do anything to the top tube (like crash or whatnot) and I think the frame should be taken back for inspection rather than just look at a photo I took, For lesser known brand warranty is always going to be an issue, our guy Pat had his fair share with big brand Giant and I did with Polygon that's all. @@richardggeorge
I received A LOT of requests for this video as soon I got the A8X bike in hand. Thanks for your patience!
I’m 5’11. Looking into buying this bike, based on your review what size would you recommend ? Thank you
@@eliecernavarro6422 My guess is same as me. Size 56!
I think the coolest part about these bikes is that the frame is the same across all of the tiers. It’s not like the bigger brands where you get a better/lighter frame only on the dura ace model
This is a fantastic point, and one I overlooked myself.
Change those wheels, tires, tubes and saddle and it will be over 500 grams lighter. I have the A9X and my wife has the A8X and they are great bikes. Can’t go wrong.
Thanks for watching!
Nice bike man made in Indonesia using Terengganu Polygon Cycling Team that model team using is Polygon A9X team edition
The color on the A9X is crazy!
I own an a7 with a regular mechanical 105 and its fast and rides fantastic. Initially, I was surprised with how compliant it felt with reviewers usually stating the stiffness of the frame. I switched out the tires to Conti 5000 gps in 700x25x and the bike feels even stiffer and more responsive with obvious gains to overall speed. I didn't care too much for the schwalbe's in 700x28 it came with. I have a wheelset upgrade in the works for the future which I'd imagine will improve the bike's performance even further. This is my race bike on a budget and it's fantastic lol.
Great stuff! This week I plan to swap the wheels/tires/tubes and throw on a lighter saddle. Those 2 things should dramatically change the bike!
Polygon: As a value driven - as opposed to a brand driven person- I’m impressed. Now tell me a little bit about that bling watch you’re rocking.😊
My dream bike ❤❤
Fantastic deal!
Hey I recognize that bike shop- shoutout to Dragonspine Cycling!
Yessssssir!
Canyon has di2 ultegra group set for $5k but it comes with DT Swiss carbon wheel sets. I wish polygon offered a better wheel set for this bike.
Unfortunately, it is 4950 euro where I live. Basically the same price as Bianchi Specialissima Comp Ultegra Di2 (that's a mouthful too!)
5000 euros? Yikes!
Thank for video. Sounds like a great deal. LOL of course they don't have one for my tall self.
haha bruh how tall are you?
Bro I hear Ya, but if folks may attention to selling trends then you know that Specialized has blow out prices in AUG/ SEP every year.
So if people wait or plan accordingly then you get damn near top tier bike at a huge discount. I just trade in bikes each year. Some LBS will buy back your old bike and you’re only responsible for the difference. Example a bought an Aethos for $1800.00 this year by trading in my Diverge which was in excellent condition. It almost like leasing bikes 😂. I had the Diverge for 3 years and still got 2K for it and I originally spent $3700ish for it.
Can’t beat that ! So buying off brands bikes may seem cool but they won’t have a decent resale value.
Let me get an Aethos for $1800…
Another great review! A few questions: 1) the seat post looks like it must be short since it appears the seat stays cut into the seat tube. What’s the seat post length and minimum insertion length?2) do you know if crank lengths change with the sizes? I’m wondering if xxs or xs come in 165mm length. 3) what is the stem length for your 42cm bar? The website says a xxs and xs have a 40cm width bar but don’t list stem length. Ty!
7.9 kilos for a non-aero hybrid without pedals is quite heavy, but that's a pretty good price for an Ultegra bike regardless.
@@Flashback_Jack heavy wheels and saddle
Nice package but honestly,sellling a bike with such an integrated is a no no. Cockpit setup and dimensions are personal preference and this severely limits fit adjustment without $$$
Jack of all trades, master of none.
I really wanted to get that bike when I was looking recently. But, I have to have at least a 58 and the 56 is the largest they make. They always get good reviews.
Dang. 56 is the largest size??
My assumption that in asian market, it's very rare to meet people that fit 58. I reckon even the stock for 56 were hard to sell in Polygon home country.
Such an underrated bike! Btw how is the nepest wheelset coming along?
Wheel update this Spring 👍🏾
thanks a lot... Love your videos... how is it if compare with Giant TCR Advance Pro....
I have not ridden a TCR before.
great review!
Glad you enjoyed it
Does it came with spare rail clamp in case we want to switch to carbon rail saddle?
YUP
Love it !, have the same !
Did you keep your bike as is, or have you swapped any components?
@@PatrickLino Swapped wheels (also 50mm but 1550g), tubes (TPU), saddle (full carbon Prime Primavera) and tires - GP5000. Weight 7.5kg with pedals :)
@@suphul1 Easy 600-700g savings!
What direct to consumer frame does this resemble?
Because we have reached peak frame design (until the UCI changes its restrictions) lots of modern bikes have similar design queues with each other. The Helios as a whole does not look like any particular frame from a single different brand, but certainly has features that are can be found elsewhere.
This is indonesian made frame, its not made from china so most likely u cant find one.
@@shhhdontshout Thanks for watching!
I like the Polygon but I think the Gusto Ranger Evo with Di2 and at 2253$US is the best value at the moment
Interesting. I have to look into it.
@@PatrickLino furthermore Tadej Pogacar used to ride one and the under 23 team are using the bike in Roubaix this weekend...
@@glennicol1361 Coincidentally, I just uploaded a Colnago V3Rs video to my channel earlier today LoL
Great video. Any updates?
Soon come.
I have this bike and I get a terrible upper back pain from riding it.
How come?
@@PatrickLino Not sure. I'm suspecting the geometry of the handlebar. There can be many reasons but it's the only bike out of my 4 bikes that give me backpain
I don't understand why any sentient being in the Universe would paint their bike battleship gray.
Perhaps they are not sentient beings!
I'd get the 105 version for the nicer paint job and lighter wheels. With the extra cashola you can build up some nice deep carbon racing hoops
Anybody who says Canyon is great value for money obviously has never heard of Polygon
Haha I love your support for Polygon.
@@PatrickLino even though I ride an Orbea 😂
They're not like for like except for the groupset.
Heavy bike boss😅
Different wheels, TPU inner tubes, and saddle. You can easily save 500g
Have not heard good things about these Polygons from local riders. Apparently they sprint like sht.
What do they mean by not sprinting well?
@@PatrickLino The rear end gets loose when putting power down during the sprints. I don't know how much power these guys are putting out but it's enough to make the rear lift off the ground which becomes quite dangerous.
@JFomo Pro Continental Team, Terengganu Cycling Team are using the Helios. The sprinters are putting 1500w above and they have been winning races without any issues.