Can’t get enough of this channel. I haven’t found anyone else who can provide this type of in-depth, eloquent, and thoughtful analysis out there! Totally agree on Southgate’s player roles as well! Balance is the key 🔑
Not having Rashford was a big mistake, might not have a great season but people can not doubt his quality. He’s always been way better than Foden in an England shirt.
I think you are right about Rashy. I would’ve had him in my squad (but he also has himself to look at as to why he isn’t). My favoured team would have Gordon off the left. Runner to a balance to attack nicely; can have Jude grabbing some more touches deep, Saka and Kane w/ more space BTL (Kane esp Saka can do any role given). Shaw as an overlap can make a Foden LW viable but we can’t have him receiving in the 2nd line anymore. Just want some natural width on that LHS. Something/body to make it natural. Wharton next to Rice, (Gordon and) shaw returning, Trent outside the block from RB and not receiving with 4 people around him! It’s not far away to be honest, and we are not looking for tactical perfection (there hasnt been that from many so far at this tournament)-just some better profiling and more intensity off the ball!
The whole Trent point is worrying. It just shows how tactically inept Southgate is that he thought he could play him as a static holding midfielder receiving the ball with his back to play. It takes a completely different profile of player to be able to do that.
Why have we never tried Trent as the makeshift left back? Surely he can handle it as well as Trippier. He can invert into the deep Kroos position and be on his correct right foot. Then we can also keep Walker at RB.
Southgate should parner Rice with a secure ball playing midfielder like Wharton who can keep the ball ticking like Jorghino does for Arsenal. Mainoo cannot do this because he has the urge to dribble and attack, I have heard that in his youth days he was a winger, that's why he likes to wander upfield. We need someone who can sit and dictate play, I hope Southgate can trust Wharton for this role, it will free Rice to roam and press higher up.
Interesting analysis regarding player platforms. The problem with Foden's free role is that no one actually gives him the ball when he gets in the spaces that he's arguably the best in the world in and we have a completely non threatening left back. Once Serbia realised we had no threat on the left we became unable to generate anything because Bellingham isn't a natural chance creater. Agree trent is infinitely better at RB, but I think people are conflating being one of the best aerial passers in world football with being creative, if he was more creative he'd be able to find passes between the lines a lot more than he does. If we play him RB and Stones RCB we are going to get so exploited by anyone with a decent left winger, Rice isn't going to be able to sweep that up 10 times a game. If Guehi hadn't been so solid a Stones/Walker CB pairing with Gomez LB would completely unlock Trent for this role and then we would need a switch option LW which could be either be Saka and Foden goes RW to come inside and Trent can hold the width once in the final third (giving us room for either Gallagher/Wharton/Mainoo to play an 8-6-8 with Bellingham/Rice) or Bellingham plays next to Rice with Foden at 10 and Gordon on LW and we hope Bellingham can find the incisive passes we need to play through the middle.
Think the thing with Foden is that his free role here can absolutely work. However, it’s what you sacrifice elsewhere in manufacturing this. For Trent, being creative isn’t the issue playing a true MF role IMO. You’re just suddenly asking him to receive back to goal, get on the half turn, receive IN a block. Instead we should use his full ZOI, receiving on the outside, being able to access his creative range. We are defectively keeping him out of that now. Bellingham will go deeper eventually, kind of like he did vs Serbia anyway. For Foden in the 10 again you’re asking how it effects Harry Kane. He isn’t best utilised like Erling Haaland for example.
@@harveygration kane is sacrificing here already and Foden is likely a better feeder for Kane than Bellingham would be because while kane and haaland aren't that similar they have some crossover unlike Kane and Vini/Rodrygo who are almost completely different. You might be right and it requires too much sacrifice but why have we never actually TRIED to set up for our player who has the most upside when you get it right?
I would argue that the way Southgate is using Foden & TAA is indicative that he's not close to cracking this England side since he's been with them for so long, but that's my personal quibble with him as a manager. Rest of this was solid good stuff. Some of the music is a little somber and made the analysis feel a little like an eulogy for a bad performance. Don't think that was intentional, but maybe a little more uptempo to suit the positive vibes at the end when positing the hopeful message would be good.
Yeah that wasn’t the intention!!! Still practicing with that area of the editing, sorry! I think that’s a fair comment and probably it’s just me trying to offer something upbeat at the end! Either way, we have the players. Let’s hope Gareth cracks it now!
Up vs a press he is brilliant. His body feels contact really well. In my profiling of him I’ve often touched in how elastic he is. This also helps with his carrying ability and is part of the reason he can play as an 8 higher up. Decision making wonderful, uses both feet, fantastic range of passing and bravery to punch balls BTL. Lovely playa.
I feel so sorry for Foden. He is an unbelievable footballer. Simply put. I don’t think he is a ‘system’ player, per say; however, his range of usage and adaptability over a range of zones is smaller than most current Eng players. To call him a system player is reductive though.
I really think they should play a diamond in midfield. We only have one wide player who is at the highest levels - Saka. So if you play him and Kane up front with Saka doing what he normally does, we don't really lose anything. But we gain. We gain unlimited power in midfield.
Jude at the top of the diamond with Kane in the 9 is actually very nice. But IMO we would want Jude to drop deeper much more than the top of the diamond would allow. Unless you move him further back to the RCM, Rice in the 6 and Wharton/Mainoo LCM. Trent rb. Could work if Southgate puts out midfield shuttlers in the right place.
Kane not being allowed to drop between the lines didn't work at all, a large portion of England goals come from Kane assists or build up play. Even in the first half when we had good possession none of the forward players were good enough to work a chance to him, and the rest of the game he was only getting long balls in the air with two defenders on his back.
Dont agree on Trent, the player needs the team to jump through many hoops just to fit him in. Wand of a right foot but cant function in any position on the pitch optimally. Overrated and Overstated, Mainoo needs to start. Mainoo -Rice Gordon-Bellingham-Saka Kane
I don't think so. Right back is his best position, just have him invert in midfield and have a conservative LB like Gomez and it should work. He is definitely not overrated as he's probably England's best creator especially deeper. Harvey laid it out quite well.
@@Sam1626473 how many hoops does the team have to go through to get the "Best out of Trent". England's best "creator", don't make me laugh, Kane, Saka and Foden just to name a few is in this team. Only Liverpool Supporters and young fans seem to be enamoured by Trent, but what does he do at an elite level, can't dribble, can't defend, poor in tight spaces, poor on the half turn,can't set a tempo etc. Trent is a Mediocre player with a Generational right leg.
Talking to everyone here-Trent deeper and wider is just better. Period. You can have him invert as and when but mostly you’re just looking for where he can receive the ball outside the block and use his creative range fully. Trent IS one of the best creators on the planet. We are talking about the thorn in Guardiola’s back here, a KDB esque range finder, block breaker, channel hitter, press killer-everything. He’s special and it would be a real shame to not make the most of that. In my humble opinion. I also think one of Mainoo, Wharton (my favoured choice) etc should come in and partner Dec.
@@harveygration One of the Best "Creators" on the Planet and yet at 25 cant get into a midfield, I wonder why. Now if Reece James could only stay fit, there would be no debate, cause unlike Trent, Reece James is truly an exceptional football player. Please don't compare Trent to De Bruyne, that's just disrespectful.
Through all of Southgates tenancy we have had the same core issue, he is overly defensive. The shape, the players, none it matters when your goal is to keep the ball on the half way line instead of the opponents actual goal. We have players that thrive in and around the box but we never play there.
Think the poorest element of the Serbia game was how passive we OOP with regards to our ‘defensive’ mindset. I don’t think keeping the ball deep is our problem, but vs Serbia our methods to progress it often blocked the tried and tested: Kane linking BTL, Trent occupying instead of arriving in MF etc.
England vs Serbia is the worst game at the euros at the moment and England is the worst performing team of game 1 to date.. Even Albania and Georghia played better 😊
Have england every tsken a shot outside the box? Thats my issue, ive noticed a lot of goals get wcored whrn a player smashed a goal at the keeper he cant keep hold of it and its just chaos in the box.. this is what england need to do instead of passing the vall around until it gets intercepted. This is the reason why england are boring as hell to watch
Can’t get enough of this channel. I haven’t found anyone else who can provide this type of in-depth, eloquent, and thoughtful analysis out there! Totally agree on Southgate’s player roles as well! Balance is the key 🔑
Far too kind. I’m just glad you’re enjoying things ❤️❤️
Different gravy analysis as usual. Love the music addition too. Thanks Fabio👍🏾.
Super kind of you. Trying to level of the quality but was a very quick turnaround! Not a prob mate! 🫡
Top vid Harv,Arsenal boys doing us proud!
Not having Rashford was a big mistake, might not have a great season but people can not doubt his quality. He’s always been way better than Foden in an England shirt.
I think you are right about Rashy. I would’ve had him in my squad (but he also has himself to look at as to why he isn’t). My favoured team would have Gordon off the left. Runner to a balance to attack nicely; can have Jude grabbing some more touches deep, Saka and Kane w/ more space BTL (Kane esp Saka can do any role given). Shaw as an overlap can make a Foden LW viable but we can’t have him receiving in the 2nd line anymore. Just want some natural width on that LHS. Something/body to make it natural. Wharton next to Rice, (Gordon and) shaw returning, Trent outside the block from RB and not receiving with 4 people around him! It’s not far away to be honest, and we are not looking for tactical perfection (there hasnt been that from many so far at this tournament)-just some better profiling and more intensity off the ball!
Great analysis, that was super interesting
Thank you mate! Really appreciate it
The whole Trent point is worrying. It just shows how tactically inept Southgate is that he thought he could play him as a static holding midfielder receiving the ball with his back to play. It takes a completely different profile of player to be able to do that.
I concur
Why have we never tried Trent as the makeshift left back? Surely he can handle it as well as Trippier. He can invert into the deep Kroos position and be on his correct right foot. Then we can also keep Walker at RB.
It could definitely work. I’ve thought about it a little bit. Just want him used where he is most comfortable though
Southgate should parner Rice with a secure ball playing midfielder like Wharton who can keep the ball ticking like Jorghino does for Arsenal. Mainoo cannot do this because he has the urge to dribble and attack, I have heard that in his youth days he was a winger, that's why he likes to wander upfield. We need someone who can sit and dictate play, I hope Southgate can trust Wharton for this role, it will free Rice to roam and press higher up.
Interesting analysis regarding player platforms.
The problem with Foden's free role is that no one actually gives him the ball when he gets in the spaces that he's arguably the best in the world in and we have a completely non threatening left back. Once Serbia realised we had no threat on the left we became unable to generate anything because Bellingham isn't a natural chance creater.
Agree trent is infinitely better at RB, but I think people are conflating being one of the best aerial passers in world football with being creative, if he was more creative he'd be able to find passes between the lines a lot more than he does. If we play him RB and Stones RCB we are going to get so exploited by anyone with a decent left winger, Rice isn't going to be able to sweep that up 10 times a game. If Guehi hadn't been so solid a Stones/Walker CB pairing with Gomez LB would completely unlock Trent for this role and then we would need a switch option LW which could be either be Saka and Foden goes RW to come inside and Trent can hold the width once in the final third (giving us room for either Gallagher/Wharton/Mainoo to play an 8-6-8 with Bellingham/Rice) or Bellingham plays next to Rice with Foden at 10 and Gordon on LW and we hope Bellingham can find the incisive passes we need to play through the middle.
Think the thing with Foden is that his free role here can absolutely work. However, it’s what you sacrifice elsewhere in manufacturing this.
For Trent, being creative isn’t the issue playing a true MF role IMO. You’re just suddenly asking him to receive back to goal, get on the half turn, receive IN a block. Instead we should use his full ZOI, receiving on the outside, being able to access his creative range. We are defectively keeping him out of that now.
Bellingham will go deeper eventually, kind of like he did vs Serbia anyway. For Foden in the 10 again you’re asking how it effects Harry Kane. He isn’t best utilised like Erling Haaland for example.
@@harveygration kane is sacrificing here already and Foden is likely a better feeder for Kane than Bellingham would be because while kane and haaland aren't that similar they have some crossover unlike Kane and Vini/Rodrygo who are almost completely different. You might be right and it requires too much sacrifice but why have we never actually TRIED to set up for our player who has the most upside when you get it right?
I would argue that the way Southgate is using Foden & TAA is indicative that he's not close to cracking this England side since he's been with them for so long, but that's my personal quibble with him as a manager. Rest of this was solid good stuff. Some of the music is a little somber and made the analysis feel a little like an eulogy for a bad performance. Don't think that was intentional, but maybe a little more uptempo to suit the positive vibes at the end when positing the hopeful message would be good.
Yeah that wasn’t the intention!!! Still practicing with that area of the editing, sorry! I think that’s a fair comment and probably it’s just me trying to offer something upbeat at the end! Either way, we have the players. Let’s hope Gareth cracks it now!
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i honestly think wharton should start. england need someone who can dictate the game and get on the ball on the half turn like him
Up vs a press he is brilliant. His body feels contact really well. In my profiling of him I’ve often touched in how elastic he is. This also helps with his carrying ability and is part of the reason he can play as an 8 higher up.
Decision making wonderful, uses both feet, fantastic range of passing and bravery to punch balls BTL. Lovely playa.
harvey do u think foden is a system player and do u think germany are better than england currently?
I feel so sorry for Foden. He is an unbelievable footballer. Simply put. I don’t think he is a ‘system’ player, per say; however, his range of usage and adaptability over a range of zones is smaller than most current Eng players. To call him a system player is reductive though.
I really think they should play a diamond in midfield. We only have one wide player who is at the highest levels - Saka. So if you play him and Kane up front with Saka doing what he normally does, we don't really lose anything.
But we gain.
We gain unlimited power in midfield.
Jude at the top of the diamond with Kane in the 9 is actually very nice. But IMO we would want Jude to drop deeper much more than the top of the diamond would allow. Unless you move him further back to the RCM, Rice in the 6 and Wharton/Mainoo LCM. Trent rb. Could work if Southgate puts out midfield shuttlers in the right place.
Kane not being allowed to drop between the lines didn't work at all, a large portion of England goals come from Kane assists or build up play. Even in the first half when we had good possession none of the forward players were good enough to work a chance to him, and the rest of the game he was only getting long balls in the air with two defenders on his back.
This is my point with Foden. It’s not that his role CANT work. It can. Absolutely. It’s just what you sacrifice elsewhere.
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Dont agree on Trent, the player needs the team to jump through many hoops just to fit him in. Wand of a right foot but cant function in any position on the pitch optimally.
Overrated and Overstated, Mainoo needs to start.
Mainoo -Rice
Gordon-Bellingham-Saka
Kane
I don't think so. Right back is his best position, just have him invert in midfield and have a conservative LB like Gomez and it should work. He is definitely not overrated as he's probably England's best creator especially deeper. Harvey laid it out quite well.
@@Sam1626473 how many hoops does the team have to go through to get the "Best out of Trent".
England's best "creator", don't make me laugh, Kane, Saka and Foden just to name a few is in this team.
Only Liverpool Supporters and young fans seem to be enamoured by Trent, but what does he do at an elite level, can't dribble, can't defend, poor in tight spaces, poor on the half turn,can't set a tempo etc.
Trent is a Mediocre player with a Generational right leg.
Talking to everyone here-Trent deeper and wider is just better. Period. You can have him invert as and when but mostly you’re just looking for where he can receive the ball outside the block and use his creative range fully.
Trent IS one of the best creators on the planet. We are talking about the thorn in Guardiola’s back here, a KDB esque range finder, block breaker, channel hitter, press killer-everything. He’s special and it would be a real shame to not make the most of that.
In my humble opinion.
I also think one of Mainoo, Wharton (my favoured choice) etc should come in and partner Dec.
@@harveygration One of the Best "Creators" on the Planet and yet at 25 cant get into a midfield, I wonder why.
Now if Reece James could only stay fit, there would be no debate, cause unlike Trent, Reece James is truly an exceptional football player.
Please don't compare Trent to De Bruyne, that's just disrespectful.
Saka????? 😅
Through all of Southgates tenancy we have had the same core issue, he is overly defensive. The shape, the players, none it matters when your goal is to keep the ball on the half way line instead of the opponents actual goal. We have players that thrive in and around the box but we never play there.
Think the poorest element of the Serbia game was how passive we OOP with regards to our ‘defensive’ mindset. I don’t think keeping the ball deep is our problem, but vs Serbia our methods to progress it often blocked the tried and tested: Kane linking BTL, Trent occupying instead of arriving in MF etc.
You nailed it. He needs to play like kroos
England vs Serbia is the worst game at the euros at the moment and England is the worst performing team of game 1 to date.. Even Albania and Georghia played better 😊
Have england every tsken a shot outside the box? Thats my issue, ive noticed a lot of goals get wcored whrn a player smashed a goal at the keeper he cant keep hold of it and its just chaos in the box.. this is what england need to do instead of passing the vall around until it gets intercepted. This is the reason why england are boring as hell to watch
England need a runner on the right, not Foden
southgate tactics getting sussed out
Sorry H I am an Aussie so no interest whatsoever in this one
No worries Bro!
So why would you pretend to be an Arsenal fan ya clown?