-"Would you like to join the band?" -"Who else is there...?" -"Nobody else..." -"but you said that you were forming a band"....😮 -"then, as I came up with Jack, I formed it." ......... 2 years later.... -"I am through with it" - "me too. It,s due to Stigwood" 4 months later...... - "I am forming Blind Faith"
I seen a interview with ginger baker years ago and he said he got into the band business only for the pussy and drugs and the money came in last. Long live rock and roll.
Love their music, but truth be told, I've never heard any musician speak well about Ginger Baker. He was a problem and provoked fights wherever he played.
Who cares? You can say that about many musicians. Does not take away from his immense talent and influence. I've seen Ginger Baker twice right in front of his drum kit and he was incredible.
That makes zero sense. You have no idea what you're talking about. It boggles the mind that anyone could jump to such a ridiculous false conclusion. They were as good as it gets, and they played exceptionally well together, better than anyone. Talent transcends everything else. Everyone hoped they would outlast the Stones, bc they blew virtually every other band off the map. And the music? 'Sunshine' and 'White Room' were the most innovative things anyone had ever heard, followed by many more over their career. Far and away Clapton's best work was here, in this band, which is saying a lot when you see how prolific he's been ever since. That they didn't get along is why it didn't last. It had absolutely nothing to do with the music or their ability, which was unparalleled. If Jack and Ginger could have gotten along, this would have been by far the best band ever, which for a time, they were. They would have left everyone in the dust.
@@tomlewis4748 What I wrote is as plain as the nose on your face, it's not that hard boys, Ginger = drums and Jack = bass, they didn't get on = Cream didn't last. Jeez you guys.
@@stevehughes1510 No, it absolutely is not clear at all what you wrote. What is crystal clear is that you just don't get it. At the risk of feeling that I need to repeat myself, that they did not get along is the single and only reason the band did not stay together. It had nothing at all to do with their ability to assume the proper and expected roles (play together professionally and quite well) in possibly the best 3-piece band that ever existed. Their music and their individual abilities meshed perfectly, and their inability to get along as collaborators had zero to do with that, and their ability to play together professionally despite their inability to get along completely transcends what that actual reason for breaking up was. Put another way, there is no possible way to define the cracks in their relationship by listening to the music. There is no empirical evidence of that. There is no 'there' there. There are no clues, bc they were professional enough to not let their relationship affect the quality of what they accomplished. Assuming that is the case with absolutely not even a shred of a clue is the functional equivalent of imagining images in the clouds that convince you that God is some man with a beard up there smiling down at you. Pros of this caliber will still find the ability to prevail musically, which is exactly what these pros did. They were that good, good enough musically to have been the top band in the world for a long career, completely despite their inability to get along as bandmates, which is the only reason that they didn't have that career for long. Sadly, regardless that the music was flawless, that was not enough to keep them together beyond that short time. But art does not exist in a vacuum, regardless how perfect it might be. There are always forces external to the art itself that can end a collaborative artistic relationship, and this is nothing more than proof of that.
@jdemarco : in the days before he was in chronic pain every day from arthritis, heart problems, and facing the loss of his playing ability. Keith Emerson killed himself because of facing similar situations.
I was just amazed watching this how much of a good mood Ginger was in
A magical time in popular music.
The took rock to places it never dared go .BC read as:" Before Cream".Music's low point ? Freddy & The Dreamers
" Tales of brave Ulysses" paints a picure in my mind like no other rock song. Beautiful, unique. Cream was the best threesome ever.
Eric & Martin Sharp, did the heavy lifting on that legendary song.Written , make that ,scribbled hastily,on a cocktail napkin.
My favorite all time band! Jack Bruce was my hero.
Same!
Saw them six times in Detroit Ginger bumped into me coming off stage
harlow743: Ginger bumped into everyone coming off stage in those days.
Those WERE the days, weren't they??
Jack bruce and ginger baker may not of loved each but they damn well had a hugh amount of respect for each other.
All three...MONSTERS...🙏👍
Greatest music group ever!
Yup.
Saw Cream live in late 60s the best three piece band in history they did 3 encore’s Fantastic!
Best trio that ever existed !!!
First Cream,then Jimi Hendrix Experience, then Nirvana, then Blink182. Not Green Day
-"Would you like to join the band?"
-"Who else is there...?"
-"Nobody else..."
-"but you said that you were forming a band"....😮
-"then, as I came up with Jack, I formed it."
.........
2 years later....
-"I am through with it"
- "me too. It,s due to Stigwood"
4 months later......
- "I am forming Blind Faith"
still love it!!
Thank you for sharing this.
Wonderful to hear from Ginga.
Enjoying these vids. Thank you.
best british jazz power rock trio ever!!
Trying to make Cream out to be jazz musicians is so wrong.
One of those rarest confluences of elements, all happening at once.
RIp Ginger & Jack
There's something about having tea that seems to make the rough edges a little smoother. Making the memories of past conflicts seem less significant.
I seen a interview with ginger baker years ago and he said he got into the band business only for the pussy and drugs and the money came in last. Long live rock and roll.
Ironically he died pussyless, drugless,and penniless...long live rock.
more, this has to be just a fragment of what was recorded
🌴🌴< < < HIS SPEECH AND MANNERISM REMINDS ME OF MICK JAGGER > > > 🌴🌴
Ginger Baker is beetle juice
From Beeare Of Mr. baker.
First there were the Yardbirds. Then came Cream. The final product was Zeppelin. The holy triumvirate.
Love their music, but truth be told, I've never heard any musician speak well about Ginger Baker. He was a problem and provoked fights wherever he played.
Who cares? You can say that about many musicians. Does not take away from his immense talent and influence. I've seen Ginger Baker twice right in front of his drum kit and he was incredible.
Eric Clapton isn’t part of this of course
The drums and bass are the rhythm section of a band, can see why Cream didn't last.
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That makes zero sense. You have no idea what you're talking about. It boggles the mind that anyone could jump to such a ridiculous false conclusion.
They were as good as it gets, and they played exceptionally well together, better than anyone. Talent transcends everything else. Everyone hoped they would outlast the Stones, bc they blew virtually every other band off the map. And the music? 'Sunshine' and 'White Room' were the most innovative things anyone had ever heard, followed by many more over their career. Far and away Clapton's best work was here, in this band, which is saying a lot when you see how prolific he's been ever since.
That they didn't get along is why it didn't last. It had absolutely nothing to do with the music or their ability, which was unparalleled. If Jack and Ginger could have gotten along, this would have been by far the best band ever, which for a time, they were. They would have left everyone in the dust.
@@tomlewis4748 What I wrote is as plain as the nose on your face, it's not that hard boys, Ginger = drums and Jack = bass, they didn't get on = Cream didn't last. Jeez you guys.
@@stevehughes1510 No, it absolutely is not clear at all what you wrote. What is crystal clear is that you just don't get it.
At the risk of feeling that I need to repeat myself, that they did not get along is the single and only reason the band did not stay together. It had nothing at all to do with their ability to assume the proper and expected roles (play together professionally and quite well) in possibly the best 3-piece band that ever existed. Their music and their individual abilities meshed perfectly, and their inability to get along as collaborators had zero to do with that, and their ability to play together professionally despite their inability to get along completely transcends what that actual reason for breaking up was.
Put another way, there is no possible way to define the cracks in their relationship by listening to the music. There is no empirical evidence of that. There is no 'there' there. There are no clues, bc they were professional enough to not let their relationship affect the quality of what they accomplished. Assuming that is the case with absolutely not even a shred of a clue is the functional equivalent of imagining images in the clouds that convince you that God is some man with a beard up there smiling down at you.
Pros of this caliber will still find the ability to prevail musically, which is exactly what these pros did. They were that good, good enough musically to have been the top band in the world for a long career, completely despite their inability to get along as bandmates, which is the only reason that they didn't have that career for long.
Sadly, regardless that the music was flawless, that was not enough to keep them together beyond that short time. But art does not exist in a vacuum, regardless how perfect it might be. There are always forces external to the art itself that can end a collaborative artistic relationship, and this is nothing more than proof of that.
Ginger back in the day before he became completely miserable...
@jdemarco : in the days before he was in chronic pain every day from arthritis, heart problems, and facing the loss of his playing ability. Keith Emerson killed himself because of facing similar situations.
Back when Clapton mattered.
Yes. Great days.
Hmmm, still selling out arenas, Royal Albert Hall, etc... Definitely doesn't matter huh?
Yeah. Cuz being popular with the masses has always been a sure sign of quality and integrity.
@@terrylynch9529 Consistently for over 50 years? Yes, he's clearly got something, and you're clearly simply a hater.
Never quit mattering in my opinion !
Overated pretentious posturing led by Baker….is you want to see a great drummer , then go take a look at Buddy Rich and especially Gene Krupa
Gene was great and a great showman
And if I want to see a massive idiot, I'll go take a look at you
they're great too, but i prefer ginger.
First drum association... John Bonham