I'm a portrait photographer, the D200 is still relevant with my work today. With the correct lighting I'm able to still get sharp and amazing colors with this camera.
The only difference between older cams and the new, are the lenses. Lenses and higher pixel count make the images sharper. Other than that, as far as colors and ability to capture great images, it’s the same and more importantly, it all depends on the photographer. 🥃🥃
I have 3- D200's. They are great. They give me all of the classic features needed and none of the "Crutches" that people think they need. I love mine and don't see a need to downgrade to a new camera. I really wish more people would keep converting to mirrorless so I can get more stuff cheap, mainly a prime lens and maybe another body or 2... no magnesium in the new cameras, just a bunch of plastic.
All Nikon products thus far have been great compared to other manufacturers. That said, when it comes to features and type of work at hand, I believe different cams with different features are required, thus I don’t think discarding any era of cameras then and now is wise.
@@Aperture35 My D850 is a Piece of Shit. It has never taken a sharp Image, regardless of Lens, AF setting, AF Tuning, Shutter Speed or f-stop. Two trips to Nikon and it is still a POS.
I just bought the same set-up as a daily beater to back-up my Nikon F3 film camera . D200 $80 excellent condition & 55mm 2.8 micro ais lens $60. Very happy.
You can’t go wrong there. That’s a sweet price for great equipment. That glass is one of the best things that came out of Nikon and the D200 is a solid back!. Enjoy!🥃🥃
I wanted to get into photographing again, something I did in school when we could borrow equipment. I bought two defective D200's for 20 bucks a piece and one of them I just needed to fix the shutter on, with some tweezers. I kind of love it but it does have some show of age, but I think this will do me well in re-learning photo and teach me what I search in a upgrade later on. Got a adapter so I can use my grandmothers old Pentax K lenses and they work well! I think it's a good camera if you find it for cheap nowadays and you wanna to some art photography as a hobby.
Agree 100% with you....I own one since over 13 years and still love this camera...If you are not going crazy with megapixels war, incredible ISO to 25000, if you know what you do with this camera.....you will be more tan happy.....this is still a very good one for me even if I own also D500, D800, D300 this camera still make the job. So forget D3000 series, D7000 series...Don't go under D200 series....it's another world.
Id like to add that with noise reduction software and upscaling ai you can comfortably shoot at 1600 iso, denoise has made even my old point and shoots useable by modern standards. D200 is still fantastic even in 2024.
Do you see any color difference between different sensor types?? How are the color rendition from D200 and D300? I'm deciding to get one of these. Just for casual shooting but i want some nicer color tone.
Great insights, good photos, no background music needed. Just bought a second hand D200 from Ebay. I'm not a pro and (maybe I'm wrong) as a long time D40 user I thought the D200 would take these glorious CCD photos I love under better specs. Way expensive in Europe , though; I had to pay 150 euros shipping included and it's an usual amount but … whatever.
This was my first camera in 2018. I loved it. I just sold it last year because the shutter was giving me issues. I was very happy with the images I got from it and I'll probably buy another one, just to have since I still have the box for it. I used to call it the tank. That thing is solid and heavy. I now have a D600 and D750, and I'm loving them.
For the prices they're available for, you can buy a nice used D200 instead of a point-n-shoot. That's what I did... I use the D200 for 'risky situations' and use my D750 otherwise. I love the D200.
I love the colors and black and white from the d200 , I bought used after a have for little while a d5200 , it was my way to learn more into a manual mode ..
thank you for this marvelous, in-depth review, very realistic covering all pros and limitations. we've referenced in description of my D200 and lens was posted on eBay today - proceeds going to manchester terrier rescue (you mentioned having been involved in pet photographer :-) ). i've never gone pro so keeping my beloved D200 after getting a D810 in 2015 may have been sentimental - now, hoping it finds a new home and life... p.s. going to follow your youtube channel... you explain things great..
Thanks Shim… glad it same in helpful and other vids as well. Even though I rarely do pet photograph anymore.. I still dig it. Hope to hear from your more in the future🥃🥃
I still have my D200, D300, D7200, D700, and D800 cameras. I don't want to sell them. Yes, the D300 is a much better camera. Before you argue, shoot with them, back to back, with the same lenses. It really isn't close. The CCD craze is kind of bizarre, if you shoot raw. Post-processing makes all of them equal for "color science". I take turns shooting with all of them. They're all great cameras.
Nice review of this great DSLR, even in 2023. However, I disagree with you regarding ISO 800 as a max. I like the rendering of the CCD sensor event at 1000 or 1200 ISO. I believe it gives character to the photos.
Great video! One nitpick. You said you need more resolution and went full frame for a different aspect ratio. DX and FX has the same aspect ratio, just different sizes. If you want to get a different aspect ratio, you would have to go to micro four thirds system (4:3 instead of 3:2)
I have a Nikon camera with a CCD sensor some of the best colors at low ISO. There is a company called Cobalt Image they emulate CCD sensors with camera profiles and they emulate film really good also.
@@CaseyThomas-fg8nc Why simple I'm not going to bring two camera systems to a wedding and different lens. Those old CCD sensors are not good in low light.
My D200, even my D100, does a much better job with Colour, Contrast, Clarity, Brightness than any of the Nikons that came after it. My newer Cameras(D800, D810, D850) cannot duplicate that regardless of how the Picture Control is set, nor can it be easily fixed in PP. It likely comes down to the older cameras used a CCD, while the Post D200/D2* cameras use CMOS.
I have a very hard time with the D810 when shorting handheld. So I understand your pain. But any other system I have used, it’s pretty good. D200 or otherwise. The Z system is excellent, so I don’t think that’s going to have the same issue. I wonder if it’s the lens electric contacts that go bad with time. When I first got the d810, it was sharp as can be, overtime there was no comeback.
@@romankampa6212 Experience with both Cameras, the D810 is better at Focusing, was Sharper. While the D850 was better that the D810 with regards to Colour than the D810, it still wasn't as good as the D200. D810👍 D850👎
Many thanks! Happy to hear about the user experience. Will try by myselve. Thought the d850 would be much better in this regard due to af-modul and joystick😅 colour is always a factor too of course…
Thank you for all the investigations you did with the Z6 and Prores RAW. I am in the same boat, also with a D810 coincidentally. I could use some advice on getting a new computer; something tells me I'll need to get a Mac for the Final Cut functionality. Oh well. -Rob
As far as computers go @rdcoff and apple, I would wait for one more generation or two. The reason is that apple just got into their chips and they are working out their kinks with software and incompatibilities with 3rd party. If you want to use FCPX then I understand you rushing into it. But if u can bare with premiere or Davinci Resolve, then I would go that route instead. For less than $1500 you can get a strong laptop or pc to do the work, and when apple is finally ready in a couple of years, then I would jump ship. That’s what I’m gonna do. Hope that helps, just got word from Nikon that once again, my Z6 motherboard will need replacement, and the D810 is still running solid! Go figure 😂🥃🥃
Look into this system to start off with. Or at least base your purchase on this specs ✌️ DELL G7 7500 4K RTX2070 32GB RAM for Gaming and Creators - Adobe Premiere Usage - Review ua-cam.com/video/MxHfaSoSQFs/v-deo.html
Hello Edward, Thank you for writing. I'm looking into the matter of getting the software editors to yield ISO and white balance from the Nikon Z6/Ninja V output. Seems to me that only Final Cut Pro X, I guess can read the metadata, or some such thing. I'm a PC guy, and the Dell G7 looks interesting, and the price is not too bad. In my mind I'm looking at Mac Book Pros (not M1 Chips) and the Asus Zenbook Duo. Clearly these are a big jump in price. Again - What is the final word so far on the software side for those non-operating editing features (ISO, WB)? Really, I just want to build a solid PC and have laptop for lighter work, but...; never did video before in a serious way. I really did appreciate all the work you put into your shows..helped me a lot. Staying tuned. More to follow. Cheers, -Rob
Hey Rob, so ProRes raw is still in the works all around but much better. If you want all the features unlocked, then FCPX is the way. Premiere only gives you exposure compensation for now. But, I have used ISO and WB on Mac with the Z6, and the WB does work, but there is no actual gain or improvement from using ISO. If you clip your footage, iso isn’t going to bring it back or take care of the footage noise. Nikon needs to put in some work still I would say for dual native iso implementation. If you capture the footage right, then it doesn’t matter which NLE you use. But the Mac, does seem to give you better color read out. Which I’m sure will always be the case since it is an apple coder. Hope that helped to make up your mind. 🥃🥃
I'm thinking from what you said, for this Z6 camera, that the Apple solution makes the most sense for white balance and perhaps betters color in FCPX and that, really, forget about the ISO adjust in post as it won't help anything. Now, are those M1 chips good enough for editing 4K video? Also, there is the comparison with the slightly older Intel Apple machines that will be discontinued.. If I wanted to shoot N-Log exclusively, I'm presuming that still only FCPX would allow the white balance in post to work. Right? You know, if I locked the WB down first and got the exposure nailed with the Ninja, then the work around in Premiere and or Resolve would be fine. Guess that's what you're doing?
Welcome onboard Marcus. I am big fan of prime lenses. Don’t care if they are vintage or new. Just love the quality of image they produce. You can score 50mm f1.8 full frame auto focus for less than $100 on eBay. Lenses I would recommend, any of this in 2.8 or better. 24, 35, 50 and a 105mm
I think that this camera has all the feature set and the quality that a competent still photographer needs. The noise issue is not relevant today in 2024. Have you seen what the new NR in Lightroom can do? These days the cameras are well over specified and unnecesarily expensive. The extensive feature sets just detract from the joy and experience of creating photographs, and turn the unwary into a computer gamer. I can still produce amazing photography with my Nikon D70, despite having D200, D800, D810, Canon and Leica M digital and film cameras. It is not the camera, its the guy who operates it.
Accurate review. Still today I think I've made more off the D200 then any camera I've owned. DF, D3s, D300, etc. I also think I made more money off using the 18-55 kit lens 🤣
I don't agree about not using higher ISO and I get good images at 1000 ISO when necessary. I don't subscribe to the need for noiseless images at 6400 ISO on modern cameras - it is possible, it works, but it has no character. I have no interest in video, so for me the D200 is still relevant today.
I'm a portrait photographer, the D200 is still relevant with my work today. With the correct lighting I'm able to still get sharp and amazing colors with this camera.
The only difference between older cams and the new, are the lenses. Lenses and higher pixel count make the images sharper. Other than that, as far as colors and ability to capture great images, it’s the same and more importantly, it all depends on the photographer. 🥃🥃
I have 3- D200's. They are great. They give me all of the classic features needed and none of the "Crutches" that people think they need. I love mine and don't see a need to downgrade to a new camera. I really wish more people would keep converting to mirrorless so I can get more stuff cheap, mainly a prime lens and maybe another body or 2... no magnesium in the new cameras, just a bunch of plastic.
All Nikon products thus far have been great compared to other manufacturers. That said, when it comes to features and type of work at hand, I believe different cams with different features are required, thus I don’t think discarding any era of cameras then and now is wise.
@@Aperture35
My D850 is a Piece of Shit. It has never taken a sharp Image, regardless of Lens, AF setting, AF Tuning, Shutter Speed or f-stop. Two trips to Nikon and it is still a POS.
Fuji cameras are all magnesium bodies with classic styling and same crop as the d200.
My dad just gave me a D200 after just getting himself a D800. I absolutely love it.
That’s so awesome!… it’s a perfect camera to start with and take it to the next level… enjoy it 😀✌️🍀🍀
Still love and use my D200 in 2021, alongside my D700 and D3. Love the colour output of the CCD sensor on the D200. Keep it up!
Thanks Duncan!... I’m planning on one more d200 vid. So look out for it. Thanks for the feedback 🥃🥃
I just bought the same set-up as a daily beater to back-up my Nikon F3 film camera . D200 $80 excellent condition & 55mm 2.8 micro ais lens $60. Very happy.
You can’t go wrong there. That’s a sweet price for great equipment. That glass is one of the best things that came out of Nikon and the D200 is a solid back!. Enjoy!🥃🥃
I wanted to get into photographing again, something I did in school when we could borrow equipment. I bought two defective D200's for 20 bucks a piece and one of them I just needed to fix the shutter on, with some tweezers.
I kind of love it but it does have some show of age, but I think this will do me well in re-learning photo and teach me what I search in a upgrade later on. Got a adapter so I can use my grandmothers old Pentax K lenses and they work well!
I think it's a good camera if you find it for cheap nowadays and you wanna to some art photography as a hobby.
That’s the enthusiasm! 🥃🥃
Agree 100% with you....I own one since over 13 years and still love this camera...If you are not going crazy with megapixels war, incredible ISO to 25000, if you know what you do with this camera.....you will be more tan happy.....this is still a very good one for me even if I own also D500, D800, D300 this camera still make the job. So forget D3000 series, D7000 series...Don't go under D200 series....it's another world.
Thanks for the feedback… nice set of toys there 😁🥃🥃
The D200 is a great camera. It's colors are like film when printed. I have sold mine, and upgraded to a D3s.
Id like to add that with noise reduction software and upscaling ai you can comfortably shoot at 1600 iso, denoise has made even my old point and shoots useable by modern standards. D200 is still fantastic even in 2024.
The D200 can be had for almost free now but its a good camera even today 🙂
The d200 had a ccd image sensor, the d300 was when they switched to cmos sensors. My first was the d200.
My understanding is that ccd sensors have global shutter. Wonder if this was true for this cam🤔🥃🥃
Do you see any color difference between different sensor types??
How are the color rendition from D200 and D300? I'm deciding to get one of these. Just for casual shooting but i want some nicer color tone.
Great insights, good photos, no background music needed.
Just bought a second hand D200 from Ebay. I'm not a pro and (maybe I'm wrong) as a long time D40 user I thought the D200 would take these glorious CCD photos I love under better specs. Way expensive in Europe , though; I had to pay 150 euros shipping included and it's an usual amount but … whatever.
I still have it and use it on occasions. Nostalgia.
Same story here🥃🥃😃
That's an old legend there!!! Im still shooting my ole trusty D500 and have no plans of trading..
Old legends die hard... and this one still kicks!... 🥃🥃
@@Aperture35 👍
This was my first camera in 2018. I loved it. I just sold it last year because the shutter was giving me issues. I was very happy with the images I got from it and I'll probably buy another one, just to have since I still have the box for it. I used to call it the tank. That thing is solid and heavy.
I now have a D600 and D750, and I'm loving them.
D200 still gets me the most compliments
A sleeper of a cam, but under hood it’s packing heat!… 😁☕️
I just won one on eBay for $89 with 14k on the shutter. I like the ccd look and I’m not planning to shoot raw only jpg and no editing.
That’s a great deal!. Congrats.
For the prices they're available for, you can buy a nice used D200 instead of a point-n-shoot. That's what I did... I use the D200 for 'risky situations' and use my D750 otherwise. I love the D200.
Sounds like great advice… can’t go wrong with this setup 🥃🥃
I love the colors and black and white from the d200 , I bought used after a have for little while a d5200 , it was my way to learn more into a manual mode ..
Manual mode it’s at. You master that and every camera will fall into place. That’s when you will realize that it’s all about you.
Great informational video!
nice video, just bought one, looking forward to trying it out
thank you for this marvelous, in-depth review, very realistic covering all pros and limitations. we've referenced in description of my D200 and lens was posted on eBay today - proceeds going to manchester terrier rescue (you mentioned having been involved in pet photographer :-) ). i've never gone pro so keeping my beloved D200 after getting a D810 in 2015 may have been sentimental - now, hoping it finds a new home and life...
p.s. going to follow your youtube channel... you explain things great..
Thanks Shim… glad it same in helpful and other vids as well.
Even though I rarely do pet photograph anymore.. I still dig it.
Hope to hear from your more in the future🥃🥃
Skin tone from D200 is really good and can compete with canon skin tone as well.
I still have my D200, D300, D7200, D700, and D800 cameras. I don't want to sell them. Yes, the D300 is a much better camera. Before you argue, shoot with them, back to back, with the same lenses. It really isn't close. The CCD craze is kind of bizarre, if you shoot raw. Post-processing makes all of them equal for "color science". I take turns shooting with all of them. They're all great cameras.
I’m still use Nikon D200 Happy to use this camera we buy body with Battery Grip
Nice… if it works, keep going.🥃🥃
@@Aperture35 Yes😃😃
Nice review of this great DSLR, even in 2023. However, I disagree with you regarding ISO 800 as a max. I like the rendering of the CCD sensor event at 1000 or 1200 ISO. I believe it gives character to the photos.
There are many tricks and styles, if you love the results at high ISO than you can’t go wrong here. It’s a classic Cam to shot and have fun. 🥃
Great video! One nitpick. You said you need more resolution and went full frame for a different aspect ratio. DX and FX has the same aspect ratio, just different sizes. If you want to get a different aspect ratio, you would have to go to micro four thirds system (4:3 instead of 3:2)
Videos was quite some time ago.. maybe I worded wrong. But I needed to see true lens length, and not a cropped version. Hope that helps
Please write down the glass he sold
I have 6- D200's!
Awesome! 🥃🥃
i have 60!!!
😂@@daktarioskarvannederhosen2568
You got my subscribe! Good stuff!
I have a Nikon camera with a CCD sensor some of the best colors at low ISO. There is a company called Cobalt Image they emulate CCD sensors with camera profiles and they emulate film really good also.
@@CaseyThomas-fg8nc Why simple I'm not going to bring two camera systems to a wedding and different lens. Those old CCD sensors are not good in low light.
I have a pentax k10d. Very similar i would say. Works like a charm. It just takes more time than my olympus em1ii
These sound like living legends 😀🥃🥃
Same sensor I think
My D200, even my D100, does a much better job with Colour, Contrast, Clarity, Brightness than any of the Nikons that came after it. My newer Cameras(D800, D810, D850) cannot duplicate that regardless of how the Picture Control is set, nor can it be easily fixed in PP. It likely comes down to the older cameras used a CCD, while the Post D200/D2* cameras use CMOS.
I have a very hard time with the D810 when shorting handheld. So I understand your pain. But any other system I have used, it’s pretty good. D200 or otherwise. The Z system is excellent, so I don’t think that’s going to have the same issue. I wonder if it’s the lens electric contacts that go bad with time.
When I first got the d810, it was sharp as can be, overtime there was no comeback.
@@Aperture35
My D810 certainly focuses much better than My D850. Overall the D850 is the worst Nikon I have owned, a real POS
Would you please explaine this to me? I am looking for a d810 or d850 and would like to go cheaper… thanks!!!
@@romankampa6212
Experience with both Cameras, the D810 is better at Focusing, was Sharper. While the D850 was better that the D810 with regards to Colour than the D810, it still wasn't as good as the D200.
D810👍 D850👎
Many thanks! Happy to hear about the user experience. Will try by myselve. Thought the d850 would be much better in this regard due to af-modul and joystick😅 colour is always a factor too of course…
aps-c aspect ratio is same as that of "full frame": both are 3/2
Hey that's one of the guys from Star Wars. LOL
Thank you for all the investigations you did with the Z6 and Prores RAW. I am in the same boat, also with a D810 coincidentally. I could use some advice on getting a new computer; something tells me I'll need to get a Mac for the Final Cut functionality. Oh well. -Rob
As far as computers go @rdcoff and apple, I would wait for one more generation or two. The reason is that apple just got into their chips and they are working out their kinks with software and incompatibilities with 3rd party.
If you want to use FCPX then I understand you rushing into it.
But if u can bare with premiere or Davinci Resolve, then I would go that route instead. For less than $1500 you can get a strong laptop or pc to do the work, and when apple is finally ready in a couple of years, then I would jump ship. That’s what I’m gonna do.
Hope that helps, just got word from Nikon that once again, my Z6 motherboard will need replacement, and the D810 is still running solid! Go figure 😂🥃🥃
Look into this system to start off with. Or at least base your purchase on this specs ✌️ DELL G7 7500 4K RTX2070 32GB RAM for Gaming and Creators - Adobe Premiere Usage - Review ua-cam.com/video/MxHfaSoSQFs/v-deo.html
Hello Edward, Thank you for writing. I'm looking into the matter of getting the software editors to yield ISO and white balance from the Nikon Z6/Ninja V output. Seems to me that only Final Cut Pro X, I guess can read the metadata, or some such thing. I'm a PC guy, and the Dell G7 looks interesting, and the price is not too bad. In my mind I'm looking at Mac Book Pros (not M1 Chips) and the Asus Zenbook Duo. Clearly these are a big jump in price. Again - What is the final word so far on the software side for those non-operating editing features (ISO, WB)? Really, I just want to build a solid PC and have laptop for lighter work, but...; never did video before in a serious way. I really did appreciate all the work you put into your shows..helped me a lot. Staying tuned. More to follow. Cheers, -Rob
Hey Rob, so ProRes raw is still in the works all around but much better. If you want all the features unlocked, then FCPX is the way. Premiere only gives you exposure compensation for now.
But, I have used ISO and WB on Mac with the Z6, and the WB does work, but there is no actual gain or improvement from using ISO. If you clip your footage, iso isn’t going to bring it back or take care of the footage noise.
Nikon needs to put in some work still I would say for dual native iso implementation.
If you capture the footage right, then it doesn’t matter which NLE you use. But the Mac, does seem to give you better color read out. Which I’m sure will always be the case since it is an apple coder.
Hope that helped to make up your mind. 🥃🥃
I'm thinking from what you said, for this Z6 camera, that the Apple solution makes the most sense for white balance and perhaps betters color in FCPX and that, really, forget about the ISO adjust in post as it won't help anything. Now, are those M1 chips good enough for editing 4K video? Also, there is the comparison with the slightly older Intel Apple machines that will be discontinued.. If I wanted to shoot N-Log exclusively, I'm presuming that still only FCPX would allow the white balance in post to work. Right? You know, if I locked the WB down first and got the exposure nailed with the Ninja, then the work around in Premiere and or Resolve would be fine. Guess that's what you're doing?
Dose it accept pre ai and ai and ais nikon lenses with out adapter
All non Z lenses work. Meaning, if it’s got autofocus and the camera won’t read it, it will be manual focus.
@@Aperture35well.. YES, obviously, those are manual-focus lenses.
And not the absolutely crappy plastic-abominations Nikon bundled with this camera..
Thank you
Anytime 🥃🥃
I just need some better glass. I got this for the low in 2016. I use the stock lenses I got with me D5100.
Welcome onboard Marcus. I am big fan of prime lenses. Don’t care if they are vintage or new. Just love the quality of image they produce. You can score 50mm f1.8 full frame auto focus for less than $100 on eBay.
Lenses I would recommend, any of this in 2.8 or better. 24, 35, 50 and a 105mm
I think that this camera has all the feature set and the quality that a competent still photographer needs. The noise issue is not relevant today in 2024. Have you seen what the new NR in Lightroom can do? These days the cameras are well over specified and unnecesarily expensive. The extensive feature sets just detract from the joy and experience of creating photographs, and turn the unwary into a computer gamer. I can still produce amazing photography with my Nikon D70, despite having D200, D800, D810, Canon and Leica M digital and film cameras. It is not the camera, its the guy who operates it.
Try a fuji X-E1
It STILL IS the best camera on the market
Accurate review. Still today I think I've made more off the D200 then any camera I've owned. DF, D3s, D300, etc.
I also think I made more money off using the 18-55 kit lens 🤣
I don't agree about not using higher ISO and I get good images at 1000 ISO when necessary. I don't subscribe to the need for noiseless images at 6400 ISO on modern cameras - it is possible, it works, but it has no character. I have no interest in video, so for me the D200 is still relevant today.
Great point. I agree 🍺🍺