@jooohan totally, but I'm guessing the upcoming turns, gradient and size of the group resulted in him wanting to wait. He wasn't in pink yet and the field would have attacked if they knew he went back for a mechanical
@jooohan its a long race and you're not always thinking about everything. Common sense slipped his mind. You can slip with a front flat with any type of tire. Hookless doesn't really change that, I know 2 of my very worse crashes came from people falling and rolling tubulars in front of me, one being a flat and the other rolling while not being a flat. People also ride on flats into turns and don't crash so you get a false sense of security. But in the end, I think he really didn't wanna do a change and lose actual sight of the group by getting a bike before the turn
They were already aware of the change needed so, no. This was already coordinated before the fall therefore very low danger. It was planned. The fall less so, but what are you gonna do with the tire flat?
@@alpsalish the director was probably used to tubular days, which could have been riden flat no problem. But these hookless tubeless rim you need to stop asap and not wait around
This was just a good old-fashioned puncture. Trying to take a corner with a flat front tyre, regardless of your wheel and tyre set up, is always going to end badly, this is nothing to do with hookless.
Tough to go around a corner with a front flat tire. But he rolled out of it pretty good. Landed on his feet. Happened to me in the Utah state championships criterium but I flatted the rear wheel right before a corner. Was able to power slide it around just put my foot down a little bit .
I'm quite certain that most people here know what it's like to ride on a flat. Being in Utah doesn't change that. I live in Utah too and cornering with a flat is no different in Utah😂
@@veganpotterthevegan You attack me for no reason. What's your problem? I muted you. Maybe you should eat some meat and be less triggered. Maybe some anger management for you.
@@veganpotterthevegan here's a question... Why is it always windy in Wyoming? Because Utah sucks. Why is it always windy in Nevada? Because Utah blows.
@@veganpottertheveganwow what's your problem? You wake up on the wrong side of the bed or just jealous. You're ridiculous person. And he's right. You should eat some meat.
@@AnarchoKapitalugh no. slow mo closeup showed the tire unraveled with sealant spraying. Hooklee rim crap. Pogi is a pro and he can handle. But when the tire peel off, nothing nobody can do
@@WanderingSword I have watched the clip numerous times now and I just can’t see what you believe to see. He fell because he tried to turn on a flat tire. Only then did the sealant spray out, not the other way round. Looking at it from a physics perspective it makes total sense: as long as you go in a straight line there is no force that would lead to the tire coming off. When turning, sideways forces are applied.
@@AnarchoKapital guys like Hambini and PeakTorque already talked about hookless rim from a physics perspective. You can go google them. But you don't understand the physics of how these tires are held into the rim. It's all friction, there is no physical interlocking. If the pressure goes, then so goes the friction between tire and rim. And just because a wheel roll "straight" it doesn't mean it ain't wobbling. How do you think car tires come off on the fwy when they get a flat while the car is still going straight?
Multi-stage race... he doesn't have to win every stage... just needs to stay safe, stay healthy, and win a few of the key ones... and keep putting time on his rivals in the GC. It's only Stage 2... chill out. :)
@1:40 or thereabouts.....comment about Pantani 25 years ago.....well, Marco was a DOPER......and Pogacar is NOT. Keep the DOPERS out of the conversation, please. 🤨
Someone will die because the stupid hookless rims - then UCI will finally ban them? 🙄 Everything because of cartel of wheel making companies that want to make their overpriced wheels even cheaper. What a shame.
In the interview he said that he wanted to stop before the corner but was told by the team car to stop after the corner and that he obviously had better not listened to them 😁
@@xTTfreakxthere is a slowmo closeup vid showing the tire came off right before the turn. It was the tire coming off causing the fall, not the corner itself
They had.them. i used to be able to buy tyres w a kevlar belt embedded. I got flats once a year w them despite riding thousands of miles on them. I havent seen them in years
@@Big_Island_Boi In that case somebody should invent puncture-proofs that are not too hard/slippery/heavy; they'd become a millionnaire overnight..:) Dragons Den anybody?
The fact he's so chill on his crash, that's a POGI moment right there.
😢 glad he not hurt
i saw him irl
He just needed to give everyone a head start to keep it somewhat interesting.
I’m worried for possible injuries. Please be safe Tadej!!
Marco Pantani 1999, Tadej Pogacar 2024
It reminds me Pantani's victory on the same climb in 1999
I’m here for the hookless comments…
Hookless, higher volume tires are what likely let him stay on his bike longer.
@@veganpotterthevegan and fall off 🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jooohan totally, but I'm guessing the upcoming turns, gradient and size of the group resulted in him wanting to wait. He wasn't in pink yet and the field would have attacked if they knew he went back for a mechanical
@jooohan its a long race and you're not always thinking about everything. Common sense slipped his mind. You can slip with a front flat with any type of tire. Hookless doesn't really change that, I know 2 of my very worse crashes came from people falling and rolling tubulars in front of me, one being a flat and the other rolling while not being a flat. People also ride on flats into turns and don't crash so you get a false sense of security. But in the end, I think he really didn't wanna do a change and lose actual sight of the group by getting a bike before the turn
This happened with flat tire? i can't find a clip where his tire gets flat
It was so much safer before with tubular tires!
Tubular?
Prepare for *Tubular* speed!
Anyone else think the team car was waaaay too close - he was only a metre or two in front of being run over.
Totally. Although pog raised his hand still too close
the director in the car told him to stop after the turn. But the tire came off causing him to crash. Hookless rim is getting to be a danger
They were already aware of the change needed so, no. This was already coordinated before the fall therefore very low danger. It was planned. The fall less so, but what are you gonna do with the tire flat?
@@alpsalish the director was probably used to tubular days, which could have been riden flat no problem. But these hookless tubeless rim you need to stop asap and not wait around
No
It’s doesn’t matter. Pog will win.
still won !
He's lucky that it wasn't a very bad fall, nd he bounced back up very quickly
Sealant did it’s job then 🤣
Glad he’s ok! Modern bike tech is like riding on blind faith…ridiculous!
This was just a good old-fashioned puncture. Trying to take a corner with a flat front tyre, regardless of your wheel and tyre set up, is always going to end badly, this is nothing to do with hookless.
Hookless are insane!
Tough to go around a corner with a front flat tire.
But he rolled out of it pretty good. Landed on his feet.
Happened to me in the Utah state championships criterium but I flatted the rear wheel right before a corner.
Was able to power slide it around just put my foot down a little bit
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I'm quite certain that most people here know what it's like to ride on a flat. Being in Utah doesn't change that. I live in Utah too and cornering with a flat is no different in Utah😂
@@veganpotterthevegan You attack me for no reason. What's your problem? I muted you. Maybe you should eat some meat and be less triggered.
Maybe some anger management for you.
@@veganpotterthevegan here's a question...
Why is it always windy in Wyoming?
Because Utah sucks.
Why is it always windy in Nevada?
Because Utah blows.
@@mylittlepitbull3143 you made a ridiculous comment with unrelated nonsense. Then you made another one😂
@@veganpottertheveganwow what's your problem? You wake up on the wrong side of the bed or just jealous. You're ridiculous person.
And he's right. You should eat some meat.
He's used a motor dope bike look at his left and right hand like he's pressed the hood.
Se puede caer 10 beses dopado como. Siempre no le hace nada
A sbagliato lui sapeva di aver bucato non correva forte andato dritto alle transenne e frenava con il posteriore
Wonderful TUBELESS performance.....when it fails it fails proper.
wheel started to unravel anyone who has carbon wheels will know and the price oof
Only it didn’t fail in the way suggested by you. It stayed on the rim. Pogi just handled it badly.
@@AnarchoKapitalugh no. slow mo closeup showed the tire unraveled with sealant spraying. Hooklee rim crap. Pogi is a pro and he can handle. But when the tire peel off, nothing nobody can do
@@WanderingSword I have watched the clip numerous times now and I just can’t see what you believe to see. He fell because he tried to turn on a flat tire. Only then did the sealant spray out, not the other way round. Looking at it from a physics perspective it makes total sense: as long as you go in a straight line there is no force that would lead to the tire coming off. When turning, sideways forces are applied.
@@AnarchoKapital guys like Hambini and PeakTorque already talked about hookless rim from a physics perspective. You can go google them. But you don't understand the physics of how these tires are held into the rim. It's all friction, there is no physical interlocking. If the pressure goes, then so goes the friction between tire and rim. And just because a wheel roll "straight" it doesn't mean it ain't wobbling. How do you think car tires come off on the fwy when they get a flat while the car is still going straight?
Nice click bait title
No video this time of one taking a pain reliever/muscle relaxant😅?
Dang
Multi-stage race... he doesn't have to win every stage... just needs to stay safe, stay healthy, and win a few of the key ones... and keep putting time on his rivals in the GC. It's only Stage 2... chill out. :)
He literally won the stage
@@Maxboyrm85 Yeah... later... after that video was posted and I commented... but comment still stands.
@@Big_Island_Boi He is who he is. He won't stay safe and will try to win more stages than is reasonable
@1:40 or thereabouts.....comment about Pantani 25 years ago.....well, Marco was a DOPER......and Pogacar is NOT. Keep the DOPERS out of the conversation, please. 🤨
Someone will die because the stupid hookless rims - then UCI will finally ban them? 🙄 Everything because of cartel of wheel making companies that want to make their overpriced wheels even cheaper. What a shame.
This is what you get with hookless rims.
bring back tubular if tubess is gonna be this dangerous
Did Rob Hatch seriously compare Pog to Pant? My goodness!
lol
I’m not buying it. The comparison to Pantani is a pretty good one if you ask me (and no one is…just my opinion).
He should've just stopped?
That's exactly what I was thinking, I am no pro cyclist but taking a corner while having a flat front tire is totally crazy, what was he thinking!?
In the interview he said that he wanted to stop before the corner but was told by the team car to stop after the corner and that he obviously had better not listened to them 😁
@@xTTfreakxthere is a slowmo closeup vid showing the tire came off right before the turn. It was
the tire coming off causing the fall, not the corner itself
Bikes have been around for 200 years, so you'd have thought somebody would have invented puncture-proof tyres by now..:)
They have. But you just can't race on them. Too hard... too slippery... and also fairly heavy.
There are plenty, just not in a race where second matters.
They had.them. i used to be able to buy tyres w a kevlar belt embedded. I got flats once a year w them despite riding thousands of miles on them. I havent seen them in years
@@Big_Island_Boi In that case somebody should invent puncture-proofs that are not too hard/slippery/heavy; they'd become a millionnaire overnight..:)
Dragons Den anybody?
@@tungstenkid2271 As long as physic existed. A pure race tyre will definitely faster than another race tyre that has better puncture resistant
Team Ineos was drilling it even with Pogi down
it's race on dude, fair game imo
At least his chemist is OK.