Should We Be Vegan by Dr Zoe Harcombe PhD
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The razor sharp intellect, the clear and professional voice and cadence, the scathing wit...Zoe could speak on any topic and I'd listen.
Keto is now on the way out due to the insulin carbohydrate hypothesis now being comprehensively discredited.
Why all the boot lickin'?
No, she makes an utter confusion between what is essential and what is beneficial.
Incredible information..
I Was a vegan in The past I felt terrible physically
Thankyou 🙏🏾
Sorry you weren't able to eat a healthy vegan diet....I am :) Happy vegan
@@karenmoore5809a healthy vegan diet😆😆😆
Insightful, eloquent and entertaining!!!! 👏👏👏
Why all the boot lickin'?
I hear a lot of that. People do feel better initially, because they are actually eating cleaner, then they start loosing their energy and not so healthy. It is not a sustainable healthy diet…
I’ve been ket/carnivore for ten years. Never been healthier at 59 years of age. No more menopause symptoms, no high blood pressure etc . Happy and healthy 😁
Yup - me too. How were we fooled for all those years?
Your luck will run out soon. Eating a 'glue' based diet like keto is likely going to impact your heart and arteries. Fat makes you fat...it is common knowledge. It will mess up your liver too. Good luck though. Go vegan to stop the damage later when your animal cruelty diet fails.
Awesome presentation! 😊
The energy, the logical argumentation, the wits. Wow! Keep fighting the good fight.
Why all the boot lickin'?
I have found plant based meat to be delicious and nutritious. The way it works is that cows eat plants and magically turn them into delicious meat, which I then consume. Plant based.
Got me in the first half.
lol ..BS... Are U a BOT?
I live in the US in the midst of corn and soybeans fields stretching as far as the eye can see. Formerly vibrant grasslands and savannah. It isn't so much the creatures that are hoovered up by the combines. It is that the corn and bean fields - completely naked for six months per year - provide no cover for creatures. These once verdant lands are now largely wastelands. It is travesty. Plant-based is disaster.
100% dead on!
Where are those crops going? Do you think animal agriculture uses more or less land than plant agriculture?
So is factory-farming of animals. The world is more complicated than meat good, plant bad.
@@tobiassmollett4840 Your term, not mine.
Highly informative and amusing too! Really great stuff!
The vegan vegetarian bias: To be vegan or vegetarian you have to take SO much care and interest in what you eat, checking, ingredients, eating whole foods etc. In "scientific" studies these are then compared with everybody else.. all lumped together as "meat eaters". Why do they not also select those that eat meat AND similarly still check ingredients, eat whole food etc. this would be REAL data, excluding people that eat super processed food, eat mostly fast food, ready made meals etc!
Fantastic presentation very informative.I work with a vegan and how I know this is he doesn’t stop going on about it and telling me how we all should be vegan and I just switch off …. Thanks 🙏
For the past decade, Dr. Harcombe has been my favorite presenter within the low carb community, and that is saying a lot because there so many knowledgeable and eloquent speakers in that community. She has an unparalleled ability to take what would otherwise be very dry, sleeping inducing material, from the scientific literature, and making it both accessible and very humorous. Thank you for inviting her to give this talk.
Look at vegans..who wants that
Excellent presentation! Well organized, concise, easy to understand. Thank you so much for this! I will be sharing.
Great to hear Zoe again, well researched and presented!
Omnivore, pescatarian, vegetarian, Vegan,…. What about those of us who are only animal based meat fish eggs dairy sometimes called carnivore.
Many of us have been doing it for years and feel extremely well.
Exactly! But they won't say it, because it does work. They want us all eating plants.
Exactly
@@Lainer1 agreed. I am mostly carnivore for almost a year. Every now and then I cheat with desserts but feel way better when I try to stick 100% with this way of eating. Sometimes I eat raw carrots with my meat/fish cause they taste good. But that is pretty much it.
Well said mate!! 👍🏻
I eat meat. I also forage roadkill venison: seems a shame to waste it. I live on a woodland bend in the road, and get one or two roe deer a year from that source.
What am I supposed to do, leave decent, organic, low fat and delicious meat for the crows?
Right, that argument of found prime meat doesn't come with an easy answer!
I think it a shame to waste it. If a vegan had no food during winter, but they found some meat would they consume meat to live, or die a vegan?
I guess you could deliver it to a zoo to feed a big cat?
Impressive and bad ass … does it taste ok?
How about dead humans road kill too...I hear they taste good . Be consistent man! Animal cruelty is quite comical to animal abusers, eh? Meat is murder, Rob. It is always murder. But you are so far gone, that you will never see it that way...I have a better chance at convincing Jeffrey Dahmer to give up eating animals, than convincing you. But I would ask him to keep eating humans....and run far away. BTW go vegan.
Nope. I've picked up fresh roadkill rabbits & pheasants in the past. Could have had a deer once, but didn't have space for it in the car. (Or the freezer).
Yummy.
Brilliant! 4:30 The perfect vegan diet - or perfect metabolic storm with 1360 kcal, 67% carbs, 17% hardly bioavailable protein and 16% seed and veg oil (hello, leaky gut, autoimmune diseases and cancer!).
Brilliant AND funny! This woman is just fabulous!
Go carnivore guys! My 5 yrs anxiety and depressed cured with no question it is absolutely work.
To balance the ecosystem vegans should do their business out on the fields so they deposit the unused nutrients that their digestion was unable to absorb back to the soil. The other option is that everyone realizes the nutritional density of ruminants and make room for more cows instead of soy, wheat and corn fields.
Oh so replaces the soy fields that are feeding the cows with.. cows..
I like the way you think.
@@PinkCrystalzx No, replace the ecological disaster called soybeans with renewable forage called "grass" with cows on it.
Carnivores tend to produce less poop cause the nutrients in meat are getting better absorbed. Unsoluble fiber in many plants cannot be broken down. Maybe the water and the bits of salt get absorbed in the colon. From what I know that's it. Most ruminent animals ferment their food so it gets broken down to short fatty acids which deliver energy for the animal. The human gut doesn't work that way, so there is no point in pooping on fields in order to improve the soil quality.
Excellent presentation and information. I wish that every vegan could see this and accept a new viewpoint, but they're too faithful and are prevented from questioning the dogma and endless vegan propaganda.
In nature all carnivores (and omnivores) eat their prey alive raw BY CATCHING PREY WITH THEIR TEETH...they do not do not use tools...THEY USE THEIR TEETH. They also do not use spices and salt to make it edible. This lecture is propaganda for animal abusers like you!!! It is convenient and it is what you WANT TO HEAR, so you follow it. Pity you don't feel the same pain and suffering as the animals. I hope you do one day. My family are farmers...I see the suffering. You have no fkg idea. VISIT A FKg SLAUGHTER HOUSE THEN SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES. Don't just watch stupid lectures online....GO SEE THE SUFFERING FIRST HAND - then say 'propaganda.'. Inexperienced with animals and ignorant, you are.
Fantastic and enjoyable presentation. The carnivore diet is healing me now. I was also vegetarian with vegan on and off for almost 20 years. I became bedridden disabled for 10 years with a multitude of serious health conditions that were getting worse despite supposingly doing it all right. I added meat back in but it stopped progressing when I went keto but I did not start recovering until I went Carnivore. Within months I had a life again. For me it isn't just about eating the nutrient rich meat but also the elimination of all the carbs and dairy as well as plants that has helped me so much. I was so misinformed like so many others are. They think they are doing the right thing but they will end up with insulin resistance as well as all the horrible nervous system and brain related conditions from being starved of the fats they need. Fatty meat from restorative pasture for life farms that care about thier life stock and the planet is the way to a better future for all, except big pharma as they will be out of jobs.
The carnivore diet is tasty...but does not heal you. Your luck will eventually run out, I am sure. Your liver will show you....soon as it fails and starts increasing your waist size. Before it is too late, increase your complex carbs while you have a chance and eliminate all oil and most fat. Otherwise good luck...you're gonna need it.
Zoe Harcombe is brilliant. Her presentations are always well researched and her easy to understand delivery is a joy to watch and listen too.
BS. Animal cruelty is bad.
@@johne.s.8782 She doesn't argue with that. We've eaten animals since the very beginning of time. Veganism has been around for about sixty years. It's quite unnatural and it's taken over the land with sugar and flour.
@@johne.s.8782 When are you going to wake up? Everything dies.
Most important video
The most extreme diet form is fruitarian!
It's also the most stupid. Fructose is so dangerous and there's not a lot of vitamins and minerals in it.
Bravo!
It’s wonderful to hear from Zoe!
Haha, I thought, when describing the various plant based folks that she was going to say they won't kill animals to eat, but they don't mind if they are mowed down. 😧
I eat a plant based diet:
the animals eat the plants, and I eat the animals. It's very fuel efficient
Yesssssss💚🌎✨🙏🏻🌱
Great presentation. (I'm exclusively carnivore 👍).
Not for long, but you have fun with that.
@@jedmaple ye wot?
You are a joke. Not a carnivore. Jeffrey Dahmer also thought he was a carnivore - but you are a joke though.
I am carnivore but not by choice. Actually, I'm salicylate sensitive which means vegetable matter makes me quite ill. They make an awful lot of people ill but they just don't see it. Vegetables is the last thing people think of when it comes to being ill.
@@toni4729 Some believe that plants produce lectins as a toxic repellent to animals. Do sylic...s fall into that category?
Brilliant, thank you.
I have said it before, and I say it again, that veganism is not a diet, but a pagan religion.
Repeating something doesn't make it less dumb.
Will it every get back to 1950 nutrition. 👍💖🇬🇧
Zoe, you are brilliant!
I wish i knew all this sooner
When you look at the great apes, they have very large intestinal tracts, giving them large bellies. The ultimate consequence of humans going onto a wholly plant based diet would be for their guts to evolve to be able to extract sufficient nutrients from such a diet. You can even see this effect in communities, such as in South Asia, where the diet is largely plant based. I for one prefer to keep a trim waistline, eating a low carb ancestral diet.
Hooray the Bristol PHC conference talks [hope the rest will follow soon] I really enjoyed this talk and even got a photo with Zoe. Keep up the brilliant work xx
I've spent my life with cattle...and horses. Have yet to suffer from methane toxicity...
Thank you so much!! Great! I will share this many, many times.
Thanks for the talk, it was very informative, as usual.
I call BS. Animal abuse should never be allowed. If you don't eat your pets, don't breed and eat any animals. It is a choice not to eat your pets, so it should be the same choice for pigs, chickens and cows...they are all sentient and trusting. We betray the farm ones, because tradition has taught us to do so. Fk tradition.
Hi Zoe, so good to see you back again.
It must be right if its in the Daily Mail ….Always do the opposite of what that paper says - Such a great talk by Zoe
No. You are wrong.
@@johne.s.8782 Why? This is how the world worked a hundred years ago before big business went mad and added sugar and flour to our food and made us all fat and sick. They're the ones that have taken over the land.
Great video, thanks a lot.
Major agricultural sources for Co2 are melting permafrost grounds in Siberia
closely followed rice production worldwide!
Without ruminants over time the fertile layer on the earth will disappear
And we will be forced to grow food on insulation mats in green houses as the Dutch already do.
Vegetables can only be produced on flat strait fields without stones.
Ruminants do live on on other grounds too and may consume left overs from grains after harvesting, a kind of recycling if you will.
For vegan friends, there are serious estimates that in North America alone roughly 7 Billion small animals are being killed when those huge combine harvester roll across the vast fields of wheat and corn.
Another open question:
In these vast fields Billions probably much more insects are living, and guess what they do produce Co2 too.
Thank you for your great work!
Please keep going
Source for plenty of scientific data
Dr Zoe Harcombe PhD, Wales UK
Should We Be Vegan?
ua-cam.com/video/DsQMCUgjbZA/v-deo.html
Dr. Harcombe is not carnivore but recommends consumption of meat.
Most of the world’s lentils are grown in a small area of Canada and shipped everywhere lentils are processed or eaten… really good for the environment?
Some powerful and compelling arguments. I thought the weakest was the animal one, though. Meat eaters also consume grains and other harvested foods, of course. And soil quality could be maintained without farmed animals. You could remove the domestic animals and leave the land to Nature and it would benefit. The challenge is to support a global population without resorting to factory farming.
In multiple scientific surveys, the majority of vegetarians admitted that they ate meat in the last 24 hours. So, on any given day, most self-identified 'vegetarians' aren't following the vegetarian diet. And that doesn't necessarily means it's the same individual 'vegetarian's eating meat from one day to the next. The supposed 'vegetarians' who never eat meat might be a tiny percentage of self-identified 'vegetarians'. But no doubt these people are reducing their meat intake and probably animal fat intake as well. We see that from the studies showing the nutritional deficiencies of vegetarians.
They weren't vegetarians, then. Which makes it a rather poor selection of survey participants.
If we weren't using that land for grain and oils those animals could be well treated by being allowed to graze as they used to. The land was taken away from them for the junk food manufacturers. Millions of acres of land for corn, grain, and wheat.
Ive heard many people say that they were vegan/vegetarian then studied nutrition and dropped it for health reasons then other say that they were meat eaters and studied nutrition and adopted it for health reasons.
And all of them have studies and research to back up their POV.
I'm not trying to commit the phallacy of both sidism, im just pointing out that the average person would have a difficult time sussing out the right way to go.
Dr. Zoe Harcombe has not done a very good job of convinvong me on the animal and environmental parts because ive heard better arguments on the other side many of which directly address the point she makes.
Shes done a lot better at convincing me of the nutritional side of things but im honestly still on the fence about it since ive also heard convincing arguments from vegans. (im not vegan btw. Just trying to figure things out.)
Just watch all the videos on UA-cam about the people who have been vegans for many years (yes, they did it right) and switched to a lower-carb WOE, whether keto, ketovore, or carnivore because they were bloated, in pain, had horrible skin, had autoimmune, had gastrointestinal issues (IBS, UC, Crohn’s).
As sharp and to the point as ever.
No...this was a silly magic show at best. You don't see the animal abuse. It is always abuse in slaughterhouses, if you ever visit one and look in the terrorized animal's eyes. You lack that experience sadly. I have seen the suffering up close...and now have PTSD. Go vegan please.
I think that she makes great points on the nutritional point but not on on the animal or planet argument. Its true that eating plant foods would result in animal deaths but its generally much lower and with plant foods it can be generally uintentional. Its pretty much reducing the harm as much as practicably possible.
Anyone who eats meat will eat meat _and plants_ so there will be animals deaths from both processea. But with eating just plants theres only deaths from the latter processes _and_ many animal deaths from plant farming can be avoided to some degree with different farming methods.
Not to mention that most animal farming comes from factory farming which Zoe agrees is unnaceptable and _which does not rejuvinate top soil_ but rather leads to soil erosion and deforestation.
Althroughout she presents farming as if most animals are grazing in fields and are part of the land but the meat and dairy she eats most likely comes from a factory farm and does nothing good for the land or the planet as a whole.
Nope, what you are assuming about her is wrong; she only eats meat and dairy that come from local ranches where she personally go and see the animals, 100% grass fed and free range, pasture raised etc. I have watched countless videos of her and she has said this many times.
I've heard a lot relating to the point of soil rejuvenation. The usage of cover crops, like legumes, grains, grasses, broadleaf plants, all work together to build soil, harbor the bacteria that pull nitrogen into the soil while keeping the ground covered and then building soil once you incorporate the plant mass back into the land. To have healthy plants that feed the animals, you have to have healthy land. Plants and animals work together to build that in some ratio. My gut tells me that balance and being flexible are most important. Given certain circumstances, if someone is carnivore but starving, they would eat some soybeans, and if someone is vegan and starving, they would eat the juicy steak.
Under ordinary circumstances with otherwise healthy individuals I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, so many people have severe metabolic and autoimmune injuries and a plant restricted diet is very therapeutic to such individuals. There is no intervention that has been more successful or cheaper, or more sustainable. The fact that many people can tolerate some amount of plant matter in the diet does not indicate that such a diet is indicated. In general, humans can tolerate some amount of alcohol in the diet as well, but no one would argue this means some amount of alcohol is indicated. A plant restricted diet is appropriate for all humans (with the possible exception of the sufferers of certain disorders of nutrient absorption. But even that argument falls short because these unfortunate individuals would almost never have survived beyond infancy before the advent of modern medical technology, so their experience is not applicable to the general population).
Any excuse to keep murdering baby animals for your diet. This is a magic show for you....and you don't see the hidden 'rabbit' so to speak. It is sad that people can convince to you to abuse animals, so easily. Watch any vegan documentary...online. There are so many for the empirical data on the suffering. Your eyes will show you the suffering. This lecture is a farce designed for you to keep abusing animals. And it worked.
Thank you Zoe for this talk, excellent explanation
No. Next question.
I love meat and thank god for animals 🙏🫶❤️
Lots of pissed off vegans in the comments 😂😂😂. Well done Zoe 👍
i pity you
The Carnivore lifestyle is the optimal diet.
It ain't difficult to piss off vegans, given that many of them have narcissistic traits and are control freaks living in a fantasy world with delusions of their own importance, and unlimited willingness to intimidate those who disagree with them.
However, there is hope. Militants who try to force their beliefs on others are likely to create counter-vegans.
Plus the vegan delusion gets smashed repeatedly against reality. Lots of recovering ex-vegans out there.
Am pleased to report that my dalliance with the vegetarian/vegan cult only lasted around 3 years and concluded close to 30 years ago.
Bravo, Zoe.
all that and tack on the fact that they're always hangry
I got meat pain every morning after I stop sugar and carbs consumption and eat meat and egg for a month😂
Plant Based = Processed Food Based Keep up the great work Dr. Harcombe!
I eat whole food plant based so your "equation" is plainly false
No meat based processed food around then.
@@suemayhew2607 sadly majority, I would guess more than 90 % of junk and processed foods are sourced from plant based. major reason being sourcing from animals won't be profitably as much.
@@realimagevanity2289 Not sure if I've understood you correctly but if you are saying that most processed food is plant based I have to disagree, KFC, Macdonalds, plus all the meals in supermarkets.
@@suemayhew2607 actually what make KFC and Macdonald junk food is the addition of sugar, processed flour and seed oil, all junk food have sugar, flour and seed oils, if you find one without these let me know. However I agree that what the cattle feed and how it raised also very important.
What about Carnivore? Real human food the rest is processed in some way.
Don't eat monogastric animals (unless they weren't fed oily grains).
She forgets to say research is lacking on veganism health benefits. You would hope any sensible vegan would supplement knowing that all nutritional benefits cannot be provided through diet alone. The animal argument of cows/pigs etc going extinct is true. Farmers have selectively bred over generations, so yes cows as we know could disappear but hey bison and boars could replace them. She fails to mention the interests of business in the meat,egg and dairy pushing their own agendas. As for the benefits animals bring to soil... Well nitrogen is also found from plants. It's the manner in which farmers try to improve soil nutrient is the issue. You can improve top soil through "no dig". Summary live your lives how see fit and don't believe in the bias of either argument
Wonder who financially sponsors this charming lady?
Herself!
The intelligent world.
Germany will soon raise a tax on cow farts....
That will be Germany's downfall. What will they grow food on when they run animals out of the country? Oh of course Beyer now are German based. They'll be poisoned by them. They've already killed off most of the bees.
If you go to the gym a number of times a week you can be like Lame and eat fruit loops and burn them off in one anaerobic session. None of these guys are talking about the glycogen stores and their role in anaerobic activity. You can do cardio and burn fat and carbs but you cannot do anaerobic exercise without glycogen. So ask yourself this, if on average the human body has 2000 calories of glycogen storage. Then you eat a high carb diet habitually and fill up those glycogen stores. What happens when we continue to eat more carbs that we cannot burn? What effect do you think that would have on your average blood glucose habitually and over time? It is why habitually eating lots of carbs, especially high glycemic carbs is so detrimental. Glycogen storage is limited to roughly 2000 calories because of weight, it is mostly water and water weights a lot. Humans were not designed like big canivores like the cats who chase prey for distances and at high speed. We dont have the amount of glycogen storage for really long intensive exercise and our liver cannot produce it fast enough hence why we need to eat it to be able to do any kind of long duration intense exercise. With that said, our day to day activities are primarily fueled by what we eat and fat stores not glycogen. The body preserves glycogen for escaping preditors or fighting off e enemies for example. So if we keep our glycogen stores always full from eating tons of carbs and have only limited storage it only makes sense we would become metabolically dysfunctional from over consuming a fuel we have limited capacity for and you dont need to have a Doctorate to see that.
your theory would suppose keto diet people can't run long distances. but that doesn't seem to be the case. and there are more and more athletes in anaerobic sports going keto and carnivore.
as i understand it humans advantage over animals we hunted on the plains was that we could chase them for miles till they had to stop exhausted. this is because we sweat and are able to cool down whilst exercising in the heat. animals we hunted cool down by panting.
@@gazlives incorrect fat is the primary fuel for long distance running, sprinting is anaerobic , a marathon is aerobic. Traditional Resistance training is anarobic and cross fit as an easy example is also highly anarobic. Obviously as we train we can adapt to a higher or lower carb requirements but pure anaerobic exercise like sprinting uses almost nothing but glycogen.
@@GregariousAntithesis sorry yeah it’s aerobic for hunting down animals. aren’t loads of these carnivore guys able to do anaerobic well after adaptation? We’ll according to their vids they are. Perhaps they can’t do 100 m sprint as well/quick without carbs? I’ve heard some rugby players and American football players have gone carnivore.
@@gazlives i would like to see anyone do extended back to back days multi hour sports or activities that are not supplemented with carbs between sessions. Im sure its possible to play a sport like rugby if you train low carb but our liver cannot produce glycogen at a rate comparable to wild carnivores like tigers. Low carb is a far cry different than pure carnivore. I eat 60/30/10 fat/pro/carb and have no issue going to the gym 4 days a week doing 1.25 hour 140-160 bpm heart rate, circuits as well as 6 days a week doing 2.75 walk/run intervals. I eat mostly low vegetables for my carbs snd i eat small anount of fruit/berries 30 minutes going to the gym and have had no issues since i started adding fruit before exercise. I did have a serious problem 6 months ago when i ended up in the ER thinking i was having a heart attack because i burned through all my glycogen from habitually exercising and not supplementing with some carbs. So i am telling you from my own experience.
@@GregariousAntithesis interesting and sounds like a good ratio. Can’t see benefits to do pure carnivore long term but it fix stuff short it seems.
Thank you zoë for your presentation. We have got it backwards. Instead of rasing grain we should put the animals back on the grass. Most of those companies that you show near the end I don't trust.
I think it is a lot more complex than stated in the video. Worth reading the book Regenesis for another angle on animal ag.
No
Brilliant but Under 1000 views, we are in deep trouble. Zoe certainly has done more than her share here… again
As we evolved, did we not need thousands of plant foods from all around the world. Carnivore is so nutritious that all you need is one food e.g. local cattle, including organs and blood. Cattle manure fertilizes the soil. Plant monocultures and ploughing destroy the soil removing the biological content on harvest - consequently modern plants need more fertilizers and water. India, predominantly vegetarian have high rates of heart attacks and are more prone to diabetes. In addition plant based monocultures dry up rivers and 80% end up as food waste.
Not so sure you're right about the Indian population as they've been vegetarian for thousands of years without a problem and have taken good care of the animals they knew they needed. The trouble is they too are now eating Western junk food and cooking with oils.
You are right of course about monocultures wasting 80% of the food and more than that in water and chemicals.
China and India have learned a lot from the West. All bad.
@@toni4729 life expectancy before 1950s in India was about 35 and 25 in1800s. Modern plants have a fraction of the nutrients but are selected to be high in sugar. The worst foods in the world are vegan sugar, flour and vegetable oil making poisonous cakes, biscuits, doughnuts, deserts, sweets etc. Plus plant foods are picked and packed by an army of slaves/immigrants working long hours for a few dollars. Lush rainforests have been destroyed, resulting in mass extinction of animals, insects, soil life (funghi, bacteria, yeast) just to grow harmful plant products (sugar, seed oils, flour, alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, heroin).
@@akhusal I don't need a lecture. I was referring to India not the entire world. If you want to talk about South America and the USA be my guest. They're the ones doing what you're talking about.
@@toni4729 Everything I mentioned is happening in India, I am Indian and vegetarian crop's have destroyed the soil and dried up the rivers. I eat mainly a carnivore diet, avoiding fruit and veg, I am fit and healthy.
@@akhusal I too am a carnivore. But you sounded like you were praising what happened in India because of the rate of death in the 1800s. Even that couldn't be down to the USA. I also don't believe you're right unless it was down to disease or dirty water. That happened everywhere in the world.
Should we be vegan? Well 'vegan' anagrams to 'Negev', and The Negev's a BARREN DESERT.
Zoe at her best, hilarious as usual. Also hilarious are the vegan comments below, all of them .... women.
Yes, she showed in her video that 64% of vegans in the UK are women so ofc there’s more in the comments, did you watch the video?
Poor people can't afford grass fed meat. That's why we have industrialised agriculture. And they're cutting down the Amazon rainforest for cattle grazing.
This is just inaccurate. Yes it’s because you like your bacon, because the original source for protein is plants. If more people had gardens they wouldn’t have to have massive vegetable fields
What a stupid comment 😂😂😂. Source of protein is plants??? Boy, your gut can barely extract anything from plants, rather they ferment and get pushed to your colon leaving you with zero nutrients.
@@wildmanauh you’re rude. Obviously your diet isn’t the best for your mental health l. You cannot even be diplomatic. If animals get there protein from plants then why aren’t humans able to? Also why is meat consumption the leading causes of diseases that result in fatality? These are convenient theories for you. Colonizers destroyed the true practices of ancient and have normalized this crap.
@@nzingaemerson7250 did i hurt your feelings? Ohhhhh. Believe me i am the happiest i have ever been 😊. From your comment i can seriously see that you are very uneducated about how the human body works. May i ask why are you comparing animals to humans? Every species has it’s own optimal food for survival. Are you trying to say that lions and tigers eat plants ? If you mean dears and ruminants, why are you comparing? Their digestive systems function in a completely different way. Their gut bacteria helps them breakdown cellulose then convert it into fat through a long process. Our system doesn’t function on bacteria breaking food down, rather we need enzymes. If you eat plants you will have an overgrowth of bad bacteria that doesn’t need to exist in your gut. Proteins and other nutrients and not readily bioavailable for us humans to breakdown and take our daily needs. Science works i promise you just have an open mind and do a proper research. We didn’t evolve by eating plants and fruits, never. We never had edible plants or fruits in the wild except some wild berries, we became homosapiens literally by eating animals. Say whatever you want but science is hard facts.
@@wildmanauh mass breeding animals is in no way of natural. Not that there needs to even be cannot believe this is even a debate but a plant based diet is the healthiest. Your “science” is v convenient, and the fatalities from meat eating related illnesses speaks for itself. Lions rape each other, eat their cubs sometimes, spiders eat their prey alive. We can’t model our behavior around what happens in the wild. Almost non of the animals that exists today are ancient and traditional to the planet. Tell these mad scientists colonizers to exit there labs and stop creating shit, probably in part to help their narrative.
The stinky pits club lol
I'm not a vegan, but I eat mostly plants, and I didn't notice a good rebuttal to the strong arguments.
Gregor and other "priests" are the medical experts like physicians and scientists cover methodology besides headlines/conclusions, so the self-asserted ideal science doesn't impress me in comparison. Because the methodology of these studies was covered so well, we followers know it's well-established science that excess non-essential dietary fat causes type-2 diabetes. Glucose, though dangerous for diabetics, doesn't cause diabetes at all. You should know this as any controlled trial shown as much.
The animal suffering argument isn't that livestock animals have a greater right to exist than woodland creatures nor is it that vegans don't support any *indirect* killing of animals. They don't even care what animals do to each other, in general. It's only human-caused suffering that they care about. Like it or not, that's the concern, not suffering per se.
They often point out that whatever costs there are to grain fed directly to humans is multiplied when using up more it it to feed grain for cattle enough to feed the same humans.
It's true that in situations of substance agriculture on marginal land, farmers couldn't live without incorporating animals to eat human refuse and otherwise indigestible grasses.
I think from a health standpoint you can be healthy with either a well planned vegan or meat diet. So its really down to environmental or animal rights claims as to why we should be vegan or not.
quick answer, NO!
I'm no vegan advocate but using the "wouldn't exist in a vegan world" argument is so backwards and lame. No animals that could have existed but don't exist actually do exist. In other words, we can make the same argument for all of the animals that don't exist due to this or that persons choice.
You could make a similar argument regarding the kids that are bred by women in exchange for money by paedophilia facilitation gangs. Different moral comparison but the same logical comparison.
Biodynamic gardening and other regenerative plant based methods. Try reading The one straw revolution. by Masanabu Fukukuoka. Your presentation is cherry picked as you will see after looking into these.
The false information begins at 2.29. "It's quite difficult for a vegan to put diabetes into remission and so on." At least I didn't waste too much of my time.
It is almost impossible for a vegan to put diabetes into remission. I don't like the idea of killing animals, I hate the idea of abusing animals but monocropping does all of that.
Here's what a responsible intellectually opened adult does. They listen to information with an open mind and judge it accordingly. When our beliefs get in the way of our ability to listen we end up in the wrong. She doesn't disagree with the need to eat plants. Monocropping destroys the topsoil, animals grazing in the fields restores it. Billions of animals die each year from big agriculture.
It is difficult to entertain ideas that we feel we are opposed to. It is necessary though, it is necessary to keep an open mind and be willing to hear what other people are saying. Often there will be truth that we then have to incorporate into our own personal beliefs.
If you are vegan or vegetarian because you don't want animals harmed, I'm sorry, there is no diet on which animals do not die. They die as a result of vegetarian and vegan agriculture. Unless everything you eat is raised by you and your family farm, you are killing animals when you purchase foods in the store. Big agriculture kills animals whether the food is plant-based or not. She explains this further on in the video that you decided not to listen to because you disagreed with something she said early on.
I know that a stranger telling you this on the internet is not likely to make much difference but please, try to listen to what I'm taking the time out of my morning to say.
The companies that sponsor a lot of the information on veganism do so out of financial interest. It's not a conspiracy it's just capitalism. I strongly encourage you to try to approach the question with an open mind for your own health and well-being.
Nobody should follow Zoe Harcomb advises, she is always in the extreme, Keto diet is extreme and no nutritionist should encourage it, vegan is the other extreme, for Zoe there is nothing in between. Also she makes an utter confusion between what is essential and is beneficial.
The definition of cognitive dissonance.
Vegan? Is this a joke?
What a load of BS.
Load of crap
Someone without a brain. Where did you leave yours?
Just wanted to break down some of her points for all the people who are genuinely taking her points seriously:
1. Definition of veganism isn’t about cutting animal products out of your diet, it’s about reducing the suffering of animals as far as practically possible. It’s ethical, not a diet.
2. Her search terms of ‘vegan diet’ won’t find many sources, this comes from personal experience for writing up my piece on poor diet & health where I found the studies used ‘wholefood plant-based diet’. I found in my research that the WPBD prevents & reverses heart disease, hypertension, high cholesterol and type 2 diabetes, but anywho.
3. She fails to mention the use of the strongest antibiotics in animals, creating significantly high chance of antibiotic resistance taking affect in our lifetime. This could be the next health disaster with patients dying from a UTI. This is serious.
4. She bypasses the abhorrent abuse taking place, which is what veganism is about: billions of chicks being blended up for the egg industry every year, female cows being sexually abused multiple times, babies taken from them or shot in the head straight after birth in front of the mother, all of which has been proven to cause intense distress, piglets being slammed to the ground to death if they don’t grow fast enough & being mutilated without anaesthetic & being put in gas chambers (if they don’t die of diseases in their conditions before then). There more but that’s just a simple way.
5. They won’t go extinct, there are sanctuaries already in place.
6. She wants grass-fed cows but there’s literally not enough land for that. It takes more land proportional to the amount of cows compared to the factories, this can’t happen because demand is very high.
7. Having all this top soil malarkey is not as beneficial for the environment as rewilding, which 75% of agricultural land in the world can be rewilded if everyone ate plant-based.
8. Vegans know there are victims on the end but that’s why it’s about reducing the amount of victims. With her saying “it’s one cow instead of loads of insects when you have veg”… crazy. That cow ate more plants than we would be taking for our meal, therefore, that ‘one cow’ caused more killing than having a salad for yourself.
9. She bangs on about source reliability but won’t acknowledge the WHO stating processed meat causes cancer and red meat has strong evidence to suggest the same.
10. She says termites produce more methane but you don’t see us making breeding factories for them so that point is just stupid.
11. She doesn’t mention the affects on the rainforest. 17% has been cleared, 91% of that is for animal agriculture, the destruction increases by 1% annually. Scientists says it will collapse once 20-25% has been cleared.
12. If you look at global greenhouse gas emissions, animal agriculture is 2nd to fossil fuels. However, animal agriculture does have that methane content and nitrous oxide which fossil fuels do not. Methane is 20-100% more harmful than CO2. Methane is 296x more harmful than CO2.
Hope this helps.
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The comment author has listened to some vegan propaganda vids and hasn't seen/read the countless research that counter claims most of these points.
Eg. There are less ruminants now than hundreds of years ago. We can't blame the cows for the increase in methane
@@adrianviti it seems my response got removed. The source I used was the EPA where it shows agriculture is the 2nd leading global gas emissions. Take into account some of those emissions are more harmful than CO2: NO and methane, it becomes the leading cause of global warming.
I’ve read over 100 sources surrounding poor diet and health and I have seen what happens to the animals, so I would say this comment’s author doesn’t just watch vegan propaganda videos, watching this is an example of that. Every single thing I have stated in my comment has reliable sources backing them up, would I really risk not having them?
Finally, this comment’s author has arguably researched more surrounding animal agriculture than Dr Zoë who found some of her sources just before presenting. Do you have any further accusations that you’d like me to disprove?
Yes, you know it all with your vegan propaganda. Good work! You're doing exactly what the food companies want you to do.
The food companies that make all the processed junk food and beyond meat. All that garbage "food" that should be thrown out, not consumed by you.
Is this a joke 😳, you do know plant agriculture is also needed for feeding cattle. So you need to add the cattle and the animals that die for plant agriculture together. Also in a vegan world the fields would be empty and that's worse for the animal!! 🤣🤣 I would rather not be born into a world to be slaughtered at all. So empty fields are great fields 👍, they can also be rewilded. How are you going to sustain this three field when we don't have space 🤣🤣. Also skipped over all the health problems. Where did your animals feed come from?
Clearly Micheal gregor isn't suggesting the daily dozen is all that you eat that's just what you should make sure is in your diet, before you add other food.
What supplements do the animals take? Omnivores also take supplements, that's not a vegan point.
Having animals die indirectly from lettuce is very different to shipping to a slaughterhouse, you must understand that!!!
We aren't feeding the plant, millions are starving, what about those people, how are you naturally feeding them?
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"you do know plant agriculture is also needed for feeding cattle"
OMG, are you so dumb or what?
NO, definitely not, you don't need any plant agriculture! Never seen a cow on a pasture?
Thank you! I was literally laughing in disbelief through this whole video! She knows nothing about veganism because she even defined it as a diet 😂 insane.
@@PinkCrystalzx "She knows nothing about veganism "
LOL, she was vegetarian for >15 years and she knows very well, how brain-damaged and dangerous for the health and the nature this vegan religion is...
I think the fact she found one of her points just before the presentation shows her depth of research into this. Also the fact she defined veganism incorrectly. Absurd video.
Are you vegan? and under 40?
@@CCC-ze8pj I’m vegan but idk why you’d like to know my age lmao
@@PinkCrystalzx I don't want to know your age - I was just trying to be funny. My guess was just that you may be under 35-40 as +90% of vegans are under 35 according to Zoe's presentation.
@@CCC-ze8pj Ah right, yeah I’m under 40. I bet that statistic is due to younger people being more open-minded and not ‘set in their ways’. Like asking someone who ate animals for 40+ years that it’s bad tends to get the response “that’s how we’ve always done it and I’m not changing today!”
What was incorrect about the definition? Personally, I believe the "appropriate" human diet can only be evaluated in terms of evolution, and humans evolved as ominivores/carnivores.
Argument 2.... Where would all the poor farm animals be if we didn't eat them? finished me off. Can't watch any more of this drivel. Oh and a few comments mentioned her delivery .... Yes she's polished but doesn't hide the absurdity of herso called arguments. From a happy healthy vegan :)
Glad you're a happy vegan. To stay a healthy vegan, don't forget to take all your supplements 🙂
where would all the wild animals in and around farms be if we didn't have big ag in place to sustain the vegan lifestyle. oh yeah that's right, they'd be alive instead of poisoned, mutilated by machinary, starved by being excluded from the area. and on and on. vegan diets kill far more animals than an average carnivore diets that consumes 1 1/2 cows a year.
@@gazlives your reply doesn't make sense, in that it doesn't read well. Take a breathe and try typing again. Big ag and rearing 1 cow to feed someone for a year as you say is actually responsible for massive death and even local extinction of animals in terms of habit removal and the direct trapping shooting and posioning of wildlife..insects to mammals and everything "in between" like fish reptiles wild plants and trees. Big ag for plants also grows plant food for non vegans AND for the animals that humans eat....in fact an awful lot of crops worldwide are grown to feed the animals that are slaughtered for human food. So think a bit more carefully before going with the "vegans are responsible for killing more animals than the person who eats one and a half cows a year". I'll say it again, her argument is drivel
@@karenmoore5809 as a karen you are aptly named. the thesis that a lot of land is destroyed to grow crops that are then fed to animals is bunkum. much of the crops are actually for humans and the remnants are for animals like corn husks which if not eaten by animals would be thrown away. also your sources, like lots of deluded vegans, is american centric. america has the worst animal farming practices in the world and most of us don't believe they are necessary or ethical.
secondly, you seem to be unable to understand a simple example that is an exaggeration to make a point. if you eat only meat and consume 1 and half cows per year you are doing far less harm environmentally that any vegan. especially in the case of regen farming which improves the environment. your information is from biased sources that are incentivised to promote big ag for profits.
@@gazlives Nope. Ireland is shipping in cereal not waste from crop growing from Russia as I type....to feed cattle so your point that "it is " bunkum" ....never heard that phrase before! is I think bunkum.