I Tried the Cheapest ARC B580 Graphics Card (ASRock Challenger 12GB)

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 368

  • @techyescity
    @techyescity  19 годин тому +101

    Merry Xmas all, hope you enjoy this one, lots more content coming over the holiday season as well as a new years parts hunt! Edit, big thank you all for subscribing too, 600K!

    • @recite2janah
      @recite2janah 19 годин тому +3

      congrats on 600k!

    • @teknativo
      @teknativo 19 годин тому +2

      Congrats on the 600k subs and Merry Christmas! 🎄
      Great video, like always.
      Let's hope I can get one LE card next week 😅

    • @Doug-mu2ev
      @Doug-mu2ev 19 годин тому +1

      Merry Christmas mate! Always here for your awesome content!

    • @kaisersolo76
      @kaisersolo76 19 годин тому +2

      Merry Xmas 🎉

    • @RANDOMNATION907
      @RANDOMNATION907 18 годин тому

      🎄 *Merry Christmas* 🎄
      I really like the low power draw of the B580. Can't wait to see how the B570 compares.

  • @Dubistader
    @Dubistader 19 годин тому +122

    They both are Arc Series cards.The previous ones were Arc Alchemist gpus and the new ones are still Arc but Battlemage gpus.
    Edit : Wrote the comment before ending the video, correction in the naming is at the end of it.

    • @vishwajeetpanwar3271
      @vishwajeetpanwar3271 19 годин тому

      Arc is GeForce/Radeon naming, A...B...C naming is confusing from Intel tho

    • @waduhhfreeze9779
      @waduhhfreeze9779 19 годин тому +1

      Well, he could be saying Alc to refer to the alchemist series 😅

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  18 годин тому +24

      Lol i confused myself don't worry.

    • @Pentenfi
      @Pentenfi 10 годин тому

      This

    • @RongDMemer
      @RongDMemer 9 годин тому +2

      Arc A, Arc B, Arc C.

  • @Willbme4EVA
    @Willbme4EVA 10 годин тому +5

    Congratulation from Japan on reaching 600K subs, and a Merry Christmas. Lil something to put in the Tech Yes City Mobile for the parts Hunt

  • @RemusKingOfRome
    @RemusKingOfRome 18 годин тому +42

    Good to see a competitive 3rd player. Merry Xmas and happy 2025.

    • @tilapiadave3234
      @tilapiadave3234 14 годин тому +3

      Who is the second competitive player??? Ohh you mean AMD that have completely failed to compete

    • @johnsmith-i5j7i
      @johnsmith-i5j7i 12 годин тому

      Just get a better job I've bought quad 5090 super ti with solid 24k gold heatsinks. With dual CPU threadripper.😊 Poor peasant. ​@@tilapiadave3234

    • @Flex-cx7uj
      @Flex-cx7uj 8 годин тому

      ​@@tilapiadave3234nope, amd on the used market has the lowest prices for the performance it gives. For example a rtx 3060 is 220 but a Rx 6600 is 120

    • @tilapiadave3234
      @tilapiadave3234 8 годин тому

      @@Flex-cx7uj Nope ,, Cannot compare VASTLY superior Nvidia to pretend GPU's made by AMD ,,, wake up fanboy

    • @Flex-cx7uj
      @Flex-cx7uj 7 годин тому +1

      @@tilapiadave3234 calling me a fanboy when your entire comment history is praising intel and Nvidia lol. It's a fact that amd is cheaper for the same performance bracket.

  • @seanaldridgefrancisco8736
    @seanaldridgefrancisco8736 18 годин тому +53

    Honestly the ASRock challenger models are really looking much better over time compared to previous iterations

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  18 годин тому +12

      Couldn't agree more.

    • @ad_fletch
      @ad_fletch 11 годин тому

      I replaced a gigabyte gaming oc RX 6800 with an Asrock challenger version. The gigabyte whined fiercely but the Asrock has been great....

    • @AG-mm9wn
      @AG-mm9wn 9 годин тому

      I preordered this version literally just because

    • @chemicalbuz
      @chemicalbuz 28 хвилин тому

      I got a 7800xt one and can confirm it ticks all boxes

  • @mikesunboxing
    @mikesunboxing 20 годин тому +23

    Still waiting for my pre order to arrive here in the Uk from overclockers Uk

    • @bellshooter
      @bellshooter 18 годин тому +1

      Me Too

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  18 годин тому +5

      Pre order? That's a bit wild. I just checked one morning and saw in stock

    • @Neil_down_south
      @Neil_down_south 16 годин тому

      I saw 7th Jan mentioned on one uk site. I'm waiting too!

    • @johnsmith-i5j7i
      @johnsmith-i5j7i 12 годин тому

      Good luck look at that companies feedback

    • @Huxley555
      @Huxley555 12 годин тому +1

      Likewise, pre ordered this card on the 7th but still nothing.

  • @Cheesevillage
    @Cheesevillage 19 годин тому +10

    Thanks for the review and recommendation, Bryan! The only thing I would have appreciated is a comment about the conspicuous 5% lows in a few titles; perhaps some more commentary on subjective gameplay "feel." Merry Christmas!

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  18 годин тому +5

      Oh yeah those games have in built benchmarks which when I check them they are very accurate so I just use that instead. Changes it up I guess.

  • @mrsrhardy
    @mrsrhardy 16 годин тому +1

    Merry Christmas, yes mate I watched this after Christmas lunch and the reference made me SMILE!

  • @phucnguyen0110
    @phucnguyen0110 18 годин тому +5

    Grats on 600K subs, Bryan! And happy holiday to you and your loved ones as well!

  • @Kopi83r
    @Kopi83r 10 годин тому +1

    Merry Xmas!

  • @someguy4849
    @someguy4849 16 годин тому +4

    I love AsRock products, my 7900XTX OC its an AsRock Phantom Gaming and its a beast.

  • @pandatime2273
    @pandatime2273 14 годин тому +2

    Merry Christmas

  • @user-rx4ip2cd6i
    @user-rx4ip2cd6i 9 годин тому +1

    Merry Christmas Tech Yes from Pennsylvania USA!!!! Love the Channel!!!🤗

  • @PCMcGee1
    @PCMcGee1 18 годин тому +4

    Merry Christmas to you, congrats on 600k! Well deserved.

  • @nismo2070
    @nismo2070 6 годин тому +3

    Thank you for including the 1080ti. I have one in my work pc and I game on it when I have down time.

  • @ironsteal
    @ironsteal 11 годин тому +1

    Merry Christmas man!

  • @hardasstone5828
    @hardasstone5828 19 годин тому +17

    I have had the A770 for over a year, still cant figure out why others have issues. Never Ever any issues what so ever.

    • @zombl337og
      @zombl337og 19 годин тому +2

      do you play old games from 90s and 2000s with it?

    • @paulboyce8537
      @paulboyce8537 18 годин тому +2

      Had mine for two years and it has doubled it performance. Plus it overclocks well. On 4k with i7-13700k. It gives better experience with half the FPS compared to 4070ti. Different architecture from all good frames vs half broken frames with stutter.

    • @Stikkzz
      @Stikkzz 17 годин тому

      @@paulboyce8537

    • @zombl337og
      @zombl337og 17 годин тому +1

      @@paulboyce8537 A B770 w/ 16GB+ would go hard for like $400-$500, and Celestial could be amazing!

    • @paulboyce8537
      @paulboyce8537 17 годин тому +2

      @@zombl337og I predict the B770/B780 to be Xe2 32 cores/Xe2 40 cores on PCIe 5.0 x16 direct access to CPU. Compare that to B580 that is Xe2 20 cores at PCIe 4.0 x8.
      PCIe 5.0 double the data transfer compared to PCIe 4.0. And PCIe 4.0 x8 is only quarter of the PCIe 5.0 x16 speed. REBAR vs direct access. Add CUDIMM that offers +20% gains. Lot better E Cores and L2 extreme power of 295W from Arrow Lake. INTEL is dual silicon architecture. See where I'm going? There is a huge potential. I think it will land somewhere at 5080 if not better. B580 I see as ironing the bugs out. I wouldn't be surprised if INTEL announces at the same time as Nvidia taking their thunder.

  • @macskaichardware
    @macskaichardware 19 годин тому +4

    can't believe brian never admitted he was wrong about intel hiding something about battlemage. still love the video

    • @albertdl5795
      @albertdl5795 Годину тому

      Yeah. Love TYC but that video was just weird. It just comes off having "Intel hater vibes" when he didn't even have an actual B580 at the time.

  • @sergiomarroquinjr3587
    @sergiomarroquinjr3587 19 годин тому +2

    Very Merry Christmas to you as well!

  • @vivekramkumar9488
    @vivekramkumar9488 15 годин тому +1

    Merry Christmas buddy 🎄🎉

  • @tonsku1978
    @tonsku1978 10 годин тому +1

    Merry Xmas

  • @David01.d
    @David01.d 9 годин тому +1

    Grats on 600k

  • @brads2041
    @brads2041 18 годин тому +2

    Happy holidays Bryan

  • @RensMakren
    @RensMakren 14 годин тому +1

    Merry Christmas! You are an awesome human! Keep up the great work!!!

  • @hrmd3537
    @hrmd3537 6 годин тому

    Merry Christimas to everyone. Great dGPU, great review.

  • @jawuda
    @jawuda 19 годин тому +1

    Thanks Tech Yes City for releasing this video, made my Christmas complete. Merry Chrristmas Tech Yes Citizens!

  • @zakazanyphoenix3573
    @zakazanyphoenix3573 18 годин тому +3

    yay tech yes happy yesmas and new year in advance

  • @jameswubbolt7787
    @jameswubbolt7787 17 годин тому +1

    Merry Christmas, thank you for all your work.

  • @GameOverAus
    @GameOverAus 15 годин тому +1

    Merry Xmas to you, thank you for the contined great content this year, look forward to next year

  • @vladdyboy2612
    @vladdyboy2612 13 годин тому +2

    A slight nitpicky correction:
    "ARC" is Intel's equivalent to Nvidia's "GeForce" and AMD'a "Radeon" nomenclature for their graphics cards and not the architecture/generation name like Battlemage.
    You had issues with Alchemist cards not ARC cards since the b580 is also an ARC card.
    I apologize for nitpicking, but I couldn't resist, have a nice day 😁

  • @DavidClark081
    @DavidClark081 19 годин тому +2

    Merry Christmas mate, hope you and your family have an awesome day

  • @Sitharii
    @Sitharii 12 годин тому +1

    Yessss !!! at last .... someone reported ReBar for those Battllemage !!!
    Thank you Bryan ,since ,my complaints to those other reviewers was exactly what you said ,that *the Battlemage ,due to its appealing price ,will be mostly desirable to lower budget players ,and those lower budget gamers won't necessarily have a new* (ReBar supported) *CPU* . My own systems are based on Ryzen2700X/3700X ,just like many other people i suppose...
    Thanks !!

    • @The79Vivir
      @The79Vivir 6 годин тому

      The R5 3600X supports rebar. I have one and it's activated for my nvidia

    • @Sitharii
      @Sitharii 4 години тому

      @@The79Vivir this is the answer if you ask MS copilot about ReBar support for Ryzen3xxx series :
      """"Yes, the Ryzen 3xxx-series CPUs generally support the Resizable BAR (ReBAR) feature. *However, to enable ReBAR, you'll need a compatible motherboard* ( *typically a 500-series chipset or newer* ) and a compatible GPU"""" ,so this isn't applied to everyone

  • @TC-hl1ws
    @TC-hl1ws 17 годин тому +3

    Thank you for trying to undervolt! I will be looking out for further undervolting information from Tech Yes City.

  • @Boria0
    @Boria0 19 годин тому +8

    Battlemage is Arc just like Alchemist was. Battlemage is much more baked than Alchemist was

  • @timestamppatrol
    @timestamppatrol 14 годин тому +1

    yesss finally yesss, thank u for the video like always

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver 14 годин тому

    Merry Christmas, sir.

  • @selwynsmit963
    @selwynsmit963 19 годин тому +1

    Merry Christmas TYC Fam. May the coming year be blessed with Tech Goodness.🎉

  • @StarsAtNight1
    @StarsAtNight1 9 годин тому +1

    In germany they go around 320/330 (and netherlands +10). Two times I saw the intel version for 300 euro. So they are in available. I think I'm going to pick one up for my living room pc. My current AMD rx 480 8gb has no support anymore and was only playable with newer games that support upscaling. Still going to need upscaling with the Intel b580 but at least not with low settings anymore. I'm also impressed with intels upscaler.

  • @mikazukigaw-id5688
    @mikazukigaw-id5688 20 годин тому +12

    Scalpers are preventing us from getting our hands on these in our area unfortunately

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  19 годин тому +10

      oh no way, that sucks. They sold out in aus pretty quick, but that's because I don't think there were that many.

    • @Takashita_Sukakoki
      @Takashita_Sukakoki 19 годин тому

      Its easier too see it as a bit of goodwill farming from intel 250 for reviews but those models will disappear soon enough

    • @Pårchmēntôs
      @Pårchmēntôs 19 годин тому +3

      @@Takashita_Sukakoki apparently Intel was surprised by the enthusiastic reaction to the card. Hopefully they increase the production in the coming weeks.

    • @Takashita_Sukakoki
      @Takashita_Sukakoki 18 годин тому +1

      ​@@Pårchmēntôs they are losing serious money each unit sold. The gpu die is massive and there are still serious architectural weaknesses on battlemage (seems to be unable too load all cores on 1080p explains the 1440p results). The price is great for what it is.

    • @Pårchmēntôs
      @Pårchmēntôs 18 годин тому +3

      @@Takashita_Sukakoki the goal is to take some market share so they’re probably fine with losing money on the sale. I think they just weren’t expecting people to like it as much as they do.

  • @Skobeloff...
    @Skobeloff... 19 годин тому +5

    Seems to be outstanding performance for the price

  • @jrose-xp6tf
    @jrose-xp6tf 18 годин тому +1

    Well, if you have chaos...I hope it's the good kind...Merry Christmas.

  • @shinyhunterlens
    @shinyhunterlens 10 годин тому +5

    You're the first reviewer to mention the lack of in-driver screen capturing. I actually use that a lot. Crazy how people can put together these videos without thinking about anything except benchmarks.
    Thank you!

    • @dostrazzz4647
      @dostrazzz4647 6 годин тому

      What is in-driver screen capturing?

    • @shinyhunterlens
      @shinyhunterlens 6 годин тому

      @dostrazzz4647 something like shadowplay or the adrenaline version where you can press a button combo to start recording, and it's built into the drivers of the card.
      OBS is just buggy sometimes. Shadowplay always works.

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber 19 годин тому +3

    I tried taking a look at a Tech YES City video.
    10/10 would recommend

  • @raylmao0596
    @raylmao0596 3 години тому

    ordered this exact card yesterday, hoping it does well!

  • @FuelHauler48
    @FuelHauler48 14 годин тому

    The intel arc b580 cards early problems in some games reminds me a lot of how the 5700xt overcame the 2070 super about 2 years after launch when tests were ran fresh. Amd really put out driver improvements and the card aged like fine wine and is still going for 200-150 in my area.

  • @peterjohnson5872
    @peterjohnson5872 15 годин тому +2

    Those % lows are shocking for something that claims to wipe the floor with the 4060.

    • @M4x505.
      @M4x505. 5 годин тому

      Yeah, I was excited for this GPU but I still got the 4060 because of that + stability + RT and Nvidia features like cuda for Blender. It gets a lot of hate but for my use case it's perfect lol

  • @wizharts
    @wizharts 9 годин тому

    7:19 Ryzen 7 Pro 2700 + Arc A750 + Asrock A320 resizable BAR here 🥰

  • @johnchristianson515
    @johnchristianson515 17 годин тому +2

    If asrock releases a 200mm B580 or better for $300 or less I would buy it right now.

  • @L4J4
    @L4J4 18 годин тому +1

    Been impressed with my ASRock Arc B580 as well, runs all the games I want to play over xmas at over 120hz-200hz on low settings, and for £285 can't really complain. Was nice to give Intel a try and this card stays quiet even under load and with the fans working up to 1000-1500rpm for me.
    Great card to have in the interim as I wait for Nvidia before deciding what to do with it.

  • @mikek92
    @mikek92 10 годин тому

    Another important thing is that Intel cards don't support VR. I ordered a A770 from newegg, not realizing I didn't order the latest card.😢 It was to replace my 3080 that started throwing code 97 on the motherboard. Long story short, it wasn't the card, thank goodness! But after researching more, Intel finally came out and said no VR support on any of their cards. So, I'm going to see how good newegg's return policy is for an unopened gpu...

  • @TheLokhon
    @TheLokhon 9 годин тому +1

    It's me or Tech Yes Men looks younger.

  • @louisstanwu
    @louisstanwu 14 годин тому

    Love you dude, sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the days are getting longer now. That means, uh huh. :)

  • @saberspecter
    @saberspecter 15 годин тому

    Would you recommend waiting until January? We're getting new 9000 AMD cards and apparently a 7000 series refresh from current rumors. Merry Christmas.

    • @originalscreenname44
      @originalscreenname44 14 годин тому +1

      I would say it depends on what your budget is. If you're looking to build a system in the $500-600 range, this might be the card to pick up now. If your budget is higher, then it might be good to wait, but I highly doubt anyone else is going to put out something as good as the B580 for $250. Hell, I doubt you'll see any of the new come close at $280.

  • @Xathos
    @Xathos 19 годин тому +2

    0:35 Is he conflating ARC, Intel's GPU brand, with Alchemist, their 1st gen GPU series? It feels like he keeps doing this throughout the video (or interchangeably when talking about their 1st party cards, too).

  • @dbeko07
    @dbeko07 19 годин тому +3

    I'm considering replacing my RX 6600 with this card but the motherboard is PCIe 3.0 so maybe you can do tests with PCIe 3 please? Thanks

    • @paulboyce8537
      @paulboyce8537 17 годин тому +1

      From 4.0 to 3.0 the data transfer is halved. And B580 uses 4.0 x8. So you are looking at 3.0 x8 speeds. Most likely works with a performance hit.

    • @dbeko07
      @dbeko07 17 годин тому +2

      @@paulboyce8537 I know but the RX 6600 is a 4.0 x8 card too, I think. It runs most games higher than 60 FPS so I can't complain about its performance since I'm limiting it by not having a PCIe 4 slot. I'm hoping that the B580 will perform better than the RX 6600 in the same computer

    • @RoastedSushii
      @RoastedSushii 12 годин тому

      Pcie 3.0 will have plenty of bandwidth for a b580. The bigger issue is do you have resiezable bar? It's essential for arc gpus

    • @johnsmith-i5j7i
      @johnsmith-i5j7i 12 годин тому

      ​@RoastedSushiiwtf is resizeable bar

    • @paulboyce8537
      @paulboyce8537 12 годин тому

      @@dbeko07 There is architectural difference where CPU only feeds the GPU and INTEL ARC where the CPU is paired via REBAR to split the tasks with GPU. So if in doubt I think AMD/Nvidia with PCIe 3.0 x8 might work better and INTEL ARC might be restricted because of the bigger data transfer. For Alchemist it is vital to have INTEL CPU and better it is better the ARC works. With every driver update the gap is getting bigger to AMD CPU. INTEL ARC is optimized to INTEL CPU.

  • @hasnihossainsami8375
    @hasnihossainsami8375 18 годин тому +1

    Well if the King of Value says so, can't go wrong with this one.

  • @FoxleyGamingZone
    @FoxleyGamingZone 9 годин тому +1

    Seems to be an awesome mid-range card.

  • @mohamedwael5039
    @mohamedwael5039 17 годин тому +1

    Could u do a video testing ryzen rendering and modeling test

  • @yttean98
    @yttean98 16 годин тому +2

    In some games, tests suggest that it even beats the RTX 4060Ti.

    • @tilapiadave3234
      @tilapiadave3234 14 годин тому

      If it beats 4060Ti then it DESTROYS 7600xt

    • @ConnorH2111
      @ConnorH2111 14 годин тому

      Those 0.1% lows are terrible though

  • @user-wq9mw2xz3j
    @user-wq9mw2xz3j 10 годин тому +1

    although used at least here you can get rtx 3070 and rx 6800 plenty cheaper, last year could even get rx6800 new for the same price as higher end b580 model costs now. Sometimes can get rx6800xt and rtx 3080 for that price used. 2nd hand is of course much better deal. 1080ti is half the price.

  • @interrobangings
    @interrobangings 19 годин тому +7

    I might buy a B770 -- if we get one, anyway.

    • @__-fi6xg
      @__-fi6xg 19 годин тому +1

      eh intel is sadly out of range in germany, too expensive here, about 100€/dollar difference dont make it a good deal overseas

  • @keithmiller9665
    @keithmiller9665 9 годин тому +1

    I have the A380 for QSV hardware video transcoding via ffmpeg and for that narrow use it is brilliant. I don't play games. For all the UA-cam reviews of the B580 not one of them compares comparative QSV performance. Not all GPU users play games.😮

  • @slashyslicker4471
    @slashyslicker4471 12 годин тому +1

    You mean the Alchemist series as the battlemage series is also Arc. Arc is like GeForce

  • @Takashita_Sukakoki
    @Takashita_Sukakoki 19 годин тому +2

    I suspect the 250€ price to be an early buyers unicorn and the actual price from partners landing near 275´ist. In europe i can buy the cheapest model for 339€

    • @fdgdfgdfgdfg3811
      @fdgdfgdfgdfg3811 18 годин тому

      lmao its basicly a little better than 5700xt card with 3 times the price

    • @tim3172
      @tim3172 16 годин тому

      That's not how it has ever worked with any Intel, AMD, or Nvidia product but go off...

  • @igors_lv
    @igors_lv 2 години тому

    Also as others pointed out, both gens are ARC cards.
    1- Alchemist
    2 - Battlemage
    A series and B series.

  • @Manicsar1
    @Manicsar1 19 годин тому +1

    I was going to pick up one of the B580s, however they were all out of stock, so I ended up finding an open box 7600 XT at my local BestBuy for $279, works great, around the same performance, not Nvidia.

  • @Dot2x
    @Dot2x 19 годин тому +1

    Can you also test streaming capabilities for this graphics card?

  • @Oozaru85
    @Oozaru85 11 годин тому

    Right at the beginning you made a mistake. Battlemage is also Arc. The first series was not the Arc series, but the Alchemist series. Alchemist and Battlemage are both Intel Arc.

  • @NZRanger
    @NZRanger 8 годин тому

    As an A750 user on an AM4 5700X platform I find it rock stable and incredibly good value for the price. Have you used the DDU utility to remove any old nVidia/AMD/Intel gpu drivers before installing the Arc ones? If not that is probably your issue... When I went from 1660 Super oo the A750 I HAD to use that utility or else I had weird issues all over the place ( Intel inform customs to use DDU when changing from any other card )

  • @Jomenaa
    @Jomenaa 19 годин тому +1

    Such an interesting card, would love to have one! Here in Finland tho so the euro conversion and tax etc. hits hard and all the models are around 340€ D:

    • @paulboyce8537
      @paulboyce8537 18 годин тому

      Australia I got mine 75€ cheaper. But getting more expensive here after elections that screwed the Australian Dollar. Word of today is "Tariffs". Australian talking point to follow the idiocy of U.S.

  • @thomascrum185
    @thomascrum185 16 годин тому +2

    Here is the US they are all sold out! A lot of reviewers are recommending these as upgrades and new builds.

  • @johnt.848
    @johnt.848 4 години тому

    I found with the Alchemist card, when I removed the Control centre, the glitches I had went too. Now I only install and update drivers and it runs fine.

  • @KeradSnake
    @KeradSnake 7 годин тому

    11:00 what the hell Mike Shinoda tech tips???

  • @LeonSteelpaw
    @LeonSteelpaw 7 годин тому

    I am a bit surprised you had issues with the Arc cards
    That being said, I am waiting for the 'high-end' releases that are supposed to happen for the Battlemage cards. It will be quite the thing once they come out I think

  • @lucashunter9434
    @lucashunter9434 18 годин тому

    With the Intel software bugs you've mentioned - did you only see this in Win 10? Or can you confirm it's also present in Win 11? Thanks!

  • @AndyViant
    @AndyViant 5 годин тому

    Merry Christmas.
    This won't have the full overclock potential of the Steel Legend but it should have a bit in it. Founders Edition had great thermals and power, so probably doesn't need the third fan.

  • @synitarthrax5618
    @synitarthrax5618 19 годин тому +5

    This is the only card I've seen that gets stronger the higher the resolution. Am I the only one who finds this ... strange?

    • @SciFiDude79
      @SciFiDude79 18 годин тому +2

      Intel targeted 1440p with this one and tuned it for that resolution. Running it at 1080p is running it below spec, hence the worse performance.

    • @paulboyce8537
      @paulboyce8537 17 годин тому +2

      It is same with A770. 1080p OK but compares pretty poorly, at 1440p it is very good and compares on par with more expensive cards, 4k leaves them behind. Also don't look at the FPS as it is about the experience. At 4k you get better experience with half the FPS than 4070ti. Also overclocking is huge on INTEL ARC. A770 of mine 2786MHz at 1.16V at 271W. Base is 2100MHz (2400MHz) 225W. This is max but good stable is 45W and 350 MHz lift. B580 seem to be hitting 2850 MHz as constant and I've seen overclocking stable at 3200 MHz to give up to 10% performance boost. AMD/Nvidia all you can hope is about 1-3% performance boost as their cards are all sold at max already.

    • @Skobeloff...
      @Skobeloff... 16 годин тому +1

      @@SciFiDude79 Seems weird, considering that most people still game at 1080

    • @ZombieBarioth
      @ZombieBarioth 14 годин тому

      ​@@SciFiDude79That doesn't really answer the question. What about it being tuned for 1440P makes it run worse? Running 'below spec' shouldn't do that, and it's even stranger with the B570 being a 1080P card.
      From what I've heard it's to do with bandwidth, so it may just be a scheduling issue or something.

    • @NoSpamForYou
      @NoSpamForYou 12 годин тому

      @@ZombieBarioth I do remember something about a lot of scheduling problems with Alchemist design. I wish intel had got power use down more but Battlemage is an impressive fix from Alchemist.

  • @rwk1013
    @rwk1013 4 години тому

    I've heard at the retail price of $249 they're losing $20 each but they have zero stock on anything $279 and below here in the states.

  • @ZingZingNZ
    @ZingZingNZ 18 годин тому +3

    They miraculously sold out one day before release in new zealand

    • @andrewweltlich9065
      @andrewweltlich9065 16 годин тому +1

      Yeah that's what happens with a paper launch. Intel is selling them at a loss so they can't afford to sell in any significant numbers.

    • @tilapiadave3234
      @tilapiadave3234 14 годин тому

      Given away free when you rent your sheep in pink bikini?

    • @MightyFighter7
      @MightyFighter7 12 годин тому

      @@andrewweltlich9065how’d you figure that?

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 12 годин тому

      all 10 units, it seems it was a paper launch on many places but since reviewers did not burned intel this time, they will send units soon to more places

  • @boonedawg1506
    @boonedawg1506 18 годин тому +2

    If the b580 came more powerful, I'd swap from my 3070. 3070 undervolted and most games I'm at the same wattage as the b580. Intel did an amazing job on this card. No more nvidia for me in the future as they just charge too much for less.

  • @contech-zb4gq
    @contech-zb4gq 2 години тому

    Agree about the "Arc" naming.
    Intel is a bit confusing with names like Xe, Iris, UHD, HD, GT, GMA, Arc, etc.

  • @alilokhd4638
    @alilokhd4638 17 годин тому

    it was rumored that intel is selling the arc b580 at a loss (250$ msrp) however i see that the AIBs are seeling 10-20$ more except for gunnir b580 which is priced at 400$ and no one is talking about it

    • @originalscreenname44
      @originalscreenname44 14 годин тому

      I wouldn't say "nobody" is talking about it. I know that Hardware Unboxed and Gamers Nexus have both mentioned how the AIB prices are highly inflated.

    • @m8x425
      @m8x425 14 годин тому

      The Gunnir is usually being sold by a 3rd party retailer that will always mark the price up.
      The BOM of the B580 isn't that high to begin with. The GPU core is relatively small(better yields and more can be cut from the wafer), the core doesn't need beefy VRM's to back it up, and a quantity of six GR6 2GB modules are not that expensive. Nvidia usually goes for a 60% margin with their cards. They paid through the nose for 4N wafers which is why they are priced the way they are.

  • @Keepone974
    @Keepone974 15 годин тому

    As a budget gamer, I've been looking at a 3060 12GB used to replace my 1660 Super. Everybody is basically saying to avoid 8GB cards now. The B580 is 50K yen in Japan so far. Not great.

  • @gnshp8167
    @gnshp8167 12 годин тому

    Max FPS seems good but i noticed that the 5% lows aren't that good, is this something that can get patched or is this even noticeable in game?

  • @Matrix1Gamer
    @Matrix1Gamer 9 годин тому

    Intel needs to bring Pat Gelsinger back. Engineering over profit margins. Vertical Integration over marketing.

  • @ombraforza5780
    @ombraforza5780 16 годин тому +1

    Can you test pie gen 3 vs gen 4

  • @ticler
    @ticler 14 годин тому

    Please do a benchmark with lower end AM5 CPUs (i.e. 7500F, 7600)

  • @MaryannLynch-z9c
    @MaryannLynch-z9c 4 години тому

    This is decently impressive. I've toyed with everything and a mainstream card that will last like the RX580 did is great for the masses, the price on B580 is nice.

  • @asldfjkalsdfjasdf
    @asldfjkalsdfjasdf 9 годин тому

    That is wonderful!
    Hope Intel will recover and bring us more of this.
    How is performance on a PCIe 3.0 System since it only uses 8 lanes of the 16x connector?

  • @DraftySatyr
    @DraftySatyr 13 годин тому

    'Cheap' is a relative term here in the UK. Sure, the B580 cards initially launched at around £259 - £269 , but within seven days these prices had risen by £10-£15 for the same stock. This was all sold out by about by mid-December. New stock has now arrived, or is on the point of delivery to the online retailers, and the prices are: £284.99 to £299.99. Unless the manufacturers have hiked prices, there are no external factors to justify this; no sudden big rise in inflation, no rise in fuel costs, no new import taxes or duties. Just pure, unadulterated greed on the part of the retailers!

  • @theaverageenduser6241
    @theaverageenduser6241 16 годин тому +1

    great vid as always. would it be possible to put relevant prices next to the GPU's? That extra bit of information would be extremely helpful.

  • @Skobeloff...
    @Skobeloff... 19 годин тому +1

    Got a UA-cam advert in the middle of your advert. Quality platform 🤨

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 12 годин тому

      youtube has nothing to do with inside video ads, so

    • @Skobeloff...
      @Skobeloff... 9 годин тому

      @arch1107 the UA-cam advert interrupted his advert...

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 6 годин тому

      @@Skobeloff... as i said, youtube decides where they put ads, and is not in hands of the youtuber where that happens, the youtubers edit the video and puts his own ad, but youtube doesnt decide that
      that is my point

  • @igavinwood
    @igavinwood 6 годин тому

    Nice to see that Intel are still trying to get into the market by offering these GPUs at a reasonable price. They still offer nothing to me as I have a RX 6800XT, but neither do Nvidia 5xxx (far too expensive to buy anything worthy of an upgrade) or AMD 9xxx (tiny bump to the fps and RayTracing which is still a gimmick in most cases). The most important parts of a GPU for me are bandwidth and 16GB+ of VRAM so the card doesn't chock on textures. If Intel provide that for their next gen then there may be something worth looking at.
    Merry Christmas and hopeful New Year to all.

  • @tinayang3902
    @tinayang3902 15 годин тому +1

    Better than bought 2nd hand GPU off eBay / Marketplace but experience problems running games 5+ old...

  • @asdasdsadsadasdasdsadsa4135
    @asdasdsadsadasdasdsadsa4135 18 годин тому

    may be in blackmyth wu kong is not optimized yet?

  • @sc9433
    @sc9433 17 годин тому

    A capable mini itx gpu?

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk 13 годин тому

    Great card for gaming on a budget so nice to have more options.

  • @m8x425
    @m8x425 14 годин тому

    I bought the ASRock Challenger from newegg and put it into the old Corsair Air 540 case, which is a terrible case for Graphics cards. The highest temps I've seen is 68c on the Hot Spot. Sometimes with these mid-range and entry-level cards, its not worth paying more for the monster triple fan cooler, and this is one of those instances. Monster cards like the 4090 on the other hand.... yeah I'd pay a bit more for the Suprim or Strix version.

  • @SciFiDude79
    @SciFiDude79 18 годин тому +3

    I love my B580 so far. But, I upgraded from an A750 and I have a few games that run great on the A750 but are unplayable due to incredibly low FPS or a flat out failure to launch on the B580. I'm hoping driver updates will iron out these issues, since I know the games can run on Arc hardware. For the most part, though, the B580 is a major improvement.

  • @willb-s1b
    @willb-s1b 10 хвилин тому

    So funny, how everyone is biased by the Nvidia/AMD naming scheme with 4000/6000 etc. and now gets confused by the intel alphabet scheme