If you are interested in collecting your own manganese as opposed to buying it online like I did in this video. Check out this video where I visit some abandoned manganese mines in New Mexico ua-cam.com/video/F_FuPo8IOa8/v-deo.html
I would love that pot as I appreciate the geometric shapes you created and the flow of the pot body itself. I am a beginner in pottery and just learning what you are teaching us is wonderful, an example of what I could one day do with me would be wonderful!
My biggest problem with mineral paint is smearing from holding the pot while painting. I have tried several things for binders to prevent this. I have found that Elmer's glue works very well. It actually is best of all. I know it's not natural, but it works. Michael
That's a good tip. Native people around here use boiled down plant material such as Rocky Mountain Bee Plant or Tansy Mustard. I like Mesquite sap. There are many natural possibilities.
Great experiment. I have also found that paint is still fugitive even when mixed with 20% clay. I do have some new ideas because of this video. Thanks again Sir, Andy!
Well you're in a great place for that. Lots of great clays and minerals in NW Arizona. I know a couple of potters whose favorite clays come from the Arizona Strip.
I've had some success with manganese dioxide and 30% brown smectite, and red iron oxide with 30% white smectite. Using the white smectite for white paint is still a struggle, though. I'm experimenting with various percentages of kaolin, which tends to flake off if there's too much. Yours was an interesting experiment!
Thanks Dave. Your comment brings up another point, that the type of clay makes a difference too. Are you buying this clay you are using? Otherwise how do you know what type it is? Send me an email if you want to hear my story about trying to get my clay tested. Long story short, I couldn't.
@@AncientPottery I bought the kaolin from Aardvark clay in Los Angeles. The smectites are both from native deposits within 30 miles of home. The white smectite is an altered volcanic tuff that contains -- I believe -- hectorite. The only reason I say this is because it was quarried in the vicinity at one time, although I don't know for sure if this is the exact material that the records referred to. It fires white in oxidation and black in reduction. The brown smectite I found unexpectedly on Air Force land, the geological setting is kind of puzzling, but I believe it was ash erupted into a lake. I gathered a bucket of it before it was closed off to the public -- there *might* be another finger of the deposit on public land, but I'd need to do some hiking to find out. Continue to have serious cracking problems during drying -- tried two different base clay bodies, both are too stiff to use as is. Adding 2% smectite and 25% temper makes them delightfully workable, but it still takes extreme babying to make them dry without cracking. A couple of bowls and pukis have survived, but no living jars yet.
I learned today about natural paints I'm being curious about rock color pigments very nice. And this beautiful pot I would like to use it to make Mexican cafe for my special guests also hot chocolate is perfect.
Great video. Im ramping up getting back into pottery after 30 years. I've taken all of your master classes and would LOVE to have this a reminder to NOT GIVE UP!!! @shotsbysonya
Great video! That answered a bunch of my questions about applying mineral pigments. I don't have Instagram so I'll just say good luck to everyone else. And thank you again for sharing your knowledge with us!
Nice work! When working with minerals you have to pay attention its possible health risks. Manganeseoxide for instance can be a health hazard when inhaled while lead can be dangerous for humans.
So true and I have mentioned this in other videos where I was grinding the stuff. If you are just measuring it dry and wetting it for paint there should be very little chance of inhalation though. Also probably not a good idea to lick your brush.
Thanks again for the great info. I just need to know how many hours did you fire the pot? I just made a brick style kiln like yours and ready to fire my first bowl :)
I would love to be able to make my own paint from stuff I find in my yard! I will have to go on some mineral field trips! Great experiments, I look forward to watching more! Sadly, I don't use instagram, but good luck to everyone else!
Why would I like to win that pot? It'd be a lovely reminder of everything you've taught me so far. I really have to thank you. I hadn't gotten back into pottery because I couldn't afford a wheel/studio time/classes/kiln time. I was lucky, I got free studio time as a really little kid while my mom was taking classes. I learned to throw on the wheel & LOOOOOVED IT!!! Still have a pot I made in 1975. From you I've learned a whole new (old) way that's exciting & empowering. Got me some clay this week & I can't wait to get my hands in it again. Thanks Andy!
I would find pottery sherds along a paved heavy trafficked trail in my area. Hundreds of people just walking by or on ancient artifacts without even knowing it.
Theoretically, but they need to be soft enough to easily grind into paint and then you need to know how they will fire, not all stones will stay the same color after the fire. I talk a little about what kinds of stones are best in this video ua-cam.com/video/CAZnDPq0Nh8/v-deo.html
Great video! Not ready for paint yet but hope to get there. Would love the pot as a sample of what to aim for (having trouble getting my rims as even as I'd like). Unfortunately I'm not on Instagram so I won't be able to enter. BTW, did you reward the starter tool sets?
Yes, I have selected the kit winners and boxed the kits I just need to mail them. The Instagram thing was a bad idea, apparently lots of people are not on Instagram so I won’t make that mistake again.
Hi Andy, I'm getting ready to paint a wild clay w red slip pot with Manganese, will use the 66/33% recipe. I just thought I'd ask if we put 2 layers (2nd one after the 1st one dries) would that give it a better chance of being darker & more permanent? Oh, and .....Thank you for all you do !!! : )
If you use acrylic you will need to apply it after firing or it will burn up in the fire (acrylic is just plastic). If you want to paint before firing then try ceramic underglazes.
I have experimented quite a bit with the audio. Done it with no talking and no music, with talking and no music, with music and no talking, etc. You can look at some of my early videos to see all that. I have determined that my studio is too noisy because it is on a porch near a busy city street. The music helps to cover up that background noise and makes the video feel more professional than it would with all the noise. Now if I had a quiet studio, that would be different. Even when my surroundings are quiet I sometimes have to add background music. For example when I made the video about Tori Hoopes (ua-cam.com/video/nriI1nevXn0/v-deo.html), she lives in the middle of nowhere where it is real quiet but unfortunately when I went to edit the video you could hear the air conditioner humming in the background so I had to add music to cover up the AC. Then I made the video about Bobby Silas (ua-cam.com/video/wFTsvDO5BlU/v-deo.html) and that was filmed on the Hopi Rez where it is real quiet and I edited the video with no music, it was real relaxing and nice. Then I showed the video to Bobby to get his input and he asked me to add in background music, so there you go.
Cool beans, this is fab, as I said in another video, I’m a newbie to ceramics at the age of 61, I love this and want to rush out and buy everything (that’s just in my nature, bit impatient). However I’ve a question, is the biscuit firing the final stage?
Yes, traditional Southwestern ceramics are fired once only. Generally the second firing is for melting the glazes and this type of pottery is not glazed. However, if you wanted to glaze this you certainly could.
Hm, I can’t tell if my entry comment posted right or not, UA-cam isn’t letting me see it for whatever reason. Might have gotten auto hidden because I mentioned the site you’re going to DM the winner on? Coulda gotten auto detected as spam or something
Sorry, because of your comment I just realized that I have a huge backlog of comments being held for review. It's probably in there but I will take care of it. You are in, thanks!
Thanks. I actually haven’t thought much about that but it would make another good experiment. I usually think about having the paint liquid enough to flow off the brush freely, if it starts getting thick I add water.
Thanks. I will need to fire my own pots too, so I have lots to learn! I was sort of hoping you didn't need to preheat in an oven, because I have an RV stove that is very small.
Don't need the pot, so not posting comment for the raffle... just wanted to say that I enjoyed the video and you're doing great work with your production
Where did you get the great containers you had you homemade manganese in? Also what does oil do if combined with powder used to color? Though I would like pot I don't have Instagram as I have a degoogled phone & to keep it "less spy" I must not use certain apps. I use the alt one recommended by Ron Braxman & flow his guide lines. Oh well!
Good question about the oil, I have never tried but might make an interesting experiment. The containers came from Hobby Lobby. So many comments today from people without Instagram, I guess that was a bad idea on my part. You can shoot me an email if you want.
so can i use food dyes, dye the clay, wait for it to dry and then when i need to use it i can just when the brush and use it? cause... i have food dies... no black though, or white, so i'd need some help with that if anything
Sir I'm confused, I thought the order of events would be wet process the clay, let it dry out well, form it, do a bisque fire in a homemade kiln, THEN paint it, and then seal it. You almost seem to be suggesting you paint it while it's still green and then you do your very first bisque fire. Is that correct? Thank you
@@AncientPottery thank you very much for the response, I ended up seeing another video of yours breaking down how different minerals end up looking based on the firing and you said the exact same thing. That's wild, thank you!
I've been looking through your videos for an answer to my question, but can't find it. Can indigo be used for coloring, either adding to to the clay or making a paint from it? I'm growing indigo this year for coloring cold - process soap, so I will have a lot of indigo!
Beautiful craftsmanship. But sorry Andy I couldn't ever have instragram even if it ment I can't win the pot .but I will always like and comment to help your videos .💚🇮🇪🙏
I bought some yellow iron oxide and mixed like 40% clay in, I brushed it on to a clay pot that is slightly wetter than leather hard. And once it hardens a bit, shall I wet stone it or dry stone?? Thanks
السلام علكم اشكرك على متقدمه ولكن للاسف لا افهم اللغة الانقلزية ولكن اريد ان اسالك على مقدار الطين ومقدار المادة التي تظاف لطين لمنع التشقق انا كلما اصنع وعاء يتشقق سوال اخر الطبقة الحمراء التي تطلى فوق الانية كي تصبح حمراء كلها وملساء وشكرا كثيرا يريت تعمل ترجمة بلعربية
I would like to have pot of yours to say my prayers with I am 5 times nat.am.ind.from east side and lost my only plate in fire happy stile 64 I am trying to Pic up my people ways in pottery coil style yes I will cover and smoke it for my self. And grandfather grandfather wado
If you are interested in collecting your own manganese as opposed to buying it online like I did in this video. Check out this video where I visit some abandoned manganese mines in New Mexico ua-cam.com/video/F_FuPo8IOa8/v-deo.html
Man this is so much more impressive then using store bought stuff and modern techniques like wheels.
Thanks Andrew.
I would love that pot as I appreciate the geometric shapes you created and the flow of the pot body itself. I am a beginner in pottery and just learning what you are teaching us is wonderful, an example of what I could one day do with me would be wonderful!
Wonderful!
My biggest problem with mineral paint is smearing from holding the pot while painting. I have tried several things for binders to prevent this. I have found that Elmer's glue works very well. It actually is best of all. I know it's not natural, but it works. Michael
That's a good tip. Native people around here use boiled down plant material such as Rocky Mountain Bee Plant or Tansy Mustard. I like Mesquite sap. There are many natural possibilities.
Great experiment. I have also found that paint is still fugitive even when mixed with 20% clay. I do have some new ideas because of this video. Thanks again Sir, Andy!
Thanks Mark, exactly what I found in this video, 30% is a more robust mixture.
Great, i could use this pot to refer to when im experimenting with my mineral paint
Id like to have this pot because you made it. I can use it as a reference also.
Oh great , now I've gotta make pottery
I love your channel! You've inspired me to start hunting for natural clay and minerals here in north western Arizona.
Well you're in a great place for that. Lots of great clays and minerals in NW Arizona. I know a couple of potters whose favorite clays come from the Arizona Strip.
I've only lived here for about 3 years, so could you tell me what specific area the "Arizona Strip" refers to.
@@GGseas The Arizona Strip is that area in the very northern part of the state above the Grand Canyon along the border of Utah
i cried a little for your poor beautiful kiln casualty
I've had some success with manganese dioxide and 30% brown smectite, and red iron oxide with 30% white smectite. Using the white smectite for white paint is still a struggle, though. I'm experimenting with various percentages of kaolin, which tends to flake off if there's too much. Yours was an interesting experiment!
Thanks Dave. Your comment brings up another point, that the type of clay makes a difference too. Are you buying this clay you are using? Otherwise how do you know what type it is? Send me an email if you want to hear my story about trying to get my clay tested. Long story short, I couldn't.
@@AncientPottery I bought the kaolin from Aardvark clay in Los Angeles. The smectites are both from native deposits within 30 miles of home. The white smectite is an altered volcanic tuff that contains -- I believe -- hectorite. The only reason I say this is because it was quarried in the vicinity at one time, although I don't know for sure if this is the exact material that the records referred to. It fires white in oxidation and black in reduction. The brown smectite I found unexpectedly on Air Force land, the geological setting is kind of puzzling, but I believe it was ash erupted into a lake. I gathered a bucket of it before it was closed off to the public -- there *might* be another finger of the deposit on public land, but I'd need to do some hiking to find out. Continue to have serious cracking problems during drying -- tried two different base clay bodies, both are too stiff to use as is. Adding 2% smectite and 25% temper makes them delightfully workable, but it still takes extreme babying to make them dry without cracking. A couple of bowls and pukis have survived, but no living jars yet.
I learned today about natural paints I'm being curious about rock color pigments very nice. And this beautiful pot I would like to use it to make Mexican cafe for my special guests also hot chocolate is perfect.
Awesome, that would be a brilliant use for it. Thanks!
Great video. Im ramping up getting back into pottery after 30 years. I've taken all of your master classes and would LOVE to have this a reminder to NOT GIVE UP!!!
@shotsbysonya
Thanks Sonya, truly, never give up, every failure is a chance to learn.
Great video! That answered a bunch of my questions about applying mineral pigments. I don't have Instagram so I'll just say good luck to everyone else. And thank you again for sharing your knowledge with us!
Well its not like you haven't won something recently. Glad that you found this helpful.
@@AncientPottery very true! I'm making good use with both the polishing stone and the Manganese you gave me! Thanks again!
Bom dia
Sou Brasileira adoro seu estilo sua arte me leva a um lugar primitivo que adoro
Obrigado, fico feliz em te inspirar.
Nice work!
When working with minerals you have to pay attention its possible health risks. Manganeseoxide for instance can be a health hazard when inhaled while lead can be dangerous for humans.
So true and I have mentioned this in other videos where I was grinding the stuff. If you are just measuring it dry and wetting it for paint there should be very little chance of inhalation though. Also probably not a good idea to lick your brush.
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Thanks again for the great info. I just need to know how many hours did you fire the pot? I just made a brick style kiln like yours and ready to fire my first bowl :)
I would love to be able to make my own paint from stuff I find in my yard! I will have to go on some mineral field trips! Great experiments, I look forward to watching more! Sadly, I don't use instagram, but good luck to everyone else!
Sorry, so many comments from people who don't use Instagram, that was a bad idea on my part.
Another good test. I'm a real advocate of the scientific method, and you always come through. Thx.
Thanks Gene, this will help to answer some of those questions we have been discussing on Wednesday night.
Thanks again I want it because you my first clay teacher
Thanks!
Great video.....Copper carbonate and organic paint 50/50 in oxidation worked well for me in a recent test....
No fixative? If not then perhaps you are getting the copper hot enough to melt?
@@AncientPottery the organic paint adheres the copper....will try this again soon....
Just would love to have one of your pots.
Thanks
Why would I like to win that pot? It'd be a lovely reminder of everything you've taught me so far. I really have to thank you. I hadn't gotten back into pottery because I couldn't afford a wheel/studio time/classes/kiln time. I was lucky, I got free studio time as a really little kid while my mom was taking classes. I learned to throw on the wheel & LOOOOOVED IT!!! Still have a pot I made in 1975. From you I've learned a whole new (old) way that's exciting & empowering. Got me some clay this week & I can't wait to get my hands in it again. Thanks Andy!
Also my insta handle is exactly the same as my youtube
Awesome, thanks, glad to hear you are getting back into clay thanks to my videos.
So helpful
Thanks Andy! Always enjoy.
Glad you enjoyed it Jeff.
I would find pottery sherds along a paved heavy trafficked trail in my area. Hundreds of people just walking by or on ancient artifacts without even knowing it.
Yes, it’s that way in a lot of places around where I live. People walk over the ancient ruins and never look down to realize.
Your work is very inspiring
Thank you so much 😀
Hey! Love your channel! I got a question, would any rock do a good job when it comes to mineral paint?
Theoretically, but they need to be soft enough to easily grind into paint and then you need to know how they will fire, not all stones will stay the same color after the fire. I talk a little about what kinds of stones are best in this video ua-cam.com/video/CAZnDPq0Nh8/v-deo.html
Your the best, Andy
Thanks
Great video! Not ready for paint yet but hope to get there. Would love the pot as a sample of what to aim for (having trouble getting my rims as even as I'd like). Unfortunately I'm not on Instagram so I won't be able to enter. BTW, did you reward the starter tool sets?
Yes, I have selected the kit winners and boxed the kits I just need to mail them. The Instagram thing was a bad idea, apparently lots of people are not on Instagram so I won’t make that mistake again.
All I want to do is make and paint some pots w mineral paint. I am new lol
Hi Andy, I'm getting ready to paint a wild clay w red slip pot with Manganese, will use the 66/33% recipe. I just thought I'd ask if we put 2 layers (2nd one after the 1st one dries) would that give it a better chance of being darker & more permanent? Oh, and .....Thank you for all you do !!! : )
Hello andy if i dont want to make my own paint what kind of paint can i use ? Acrylic? And do i need to paint my pot before or after the firing?
If you use acrylic you will need to apply it after firing or it will burn up in the fire (acrylic is just plastic). If you want to paint before firing then try ceramic underglazes.
Great work Andy.
BTW, I prefer no music on videos, it is distracting and diverts attention to the subject.
I have experimented quite a bit with the audio. Done it with no talking and no music, with talking and no music, with music and no talking, etc. You can look at some of my early videos to see all that. I have determined that my studio is too noisy because it is on a porch near a busy city street. The music helps to cover up that background noise and makes the video feel more professional than it would with all the noise. Now if I had a quiet studio, that would be different. Even when my surroundings are quiet I sometimes have to add background music. For example when I made the video about Tori Hoopes (ua-cam.com/video/nriI1nevXn0/v-deo.html), she lives in the middle of nowhere where it is real quiet but unfortunately when I went to edit the video you could hear the air conditioner humming in the background so I had to add music to cover up the AC. Then I made the video about Bobby Silas (ua-cam.com/video/wFTsvDO5BlU/v-deo.html) and that was filmed on the Hopi Rez where it is real quiet and I edited the video with no music, it was real relaxing and nice. Then I showed the video to Bobby to get his input and he asked me to add in background music, so there you go.
Very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Cool beans, this is fab, as I said in another video, I’m a newbie to ceramics at the age of 61, I love this and want to rush out and buy everything (that’s just in my nature, bit impatient). However I’ve a question, is the biscuit firing the final stage?
Yes, traditional Southwestern ceramics are fired once only. Generally the second firing is for melting the glazes and this type of pottery is not glazed. However, if you wanted to glaze this you certainly could.
@@AncientPottery thanks very much, this explains why you treat with lard or oil to seal the pots if you want to use them. 🤗
Hm, I can’t tell if my entry comment posted right or not, UA-cam isn’t letting me see it for whatever reason. Might have gotten auto hidden because I mentioned the site you’re going to DM the winner on? Coulda gotten auto detected as spam or something
Sorry, because of your comment I just realized that I have a huge backlog of comments being held for review. It's probably in there but I will take care of it. You are in, thanks!
@@AncientPottery Cool, thanks man! Glad my comment managed to help out. UA-cam is so weird about what it’ll hold sometimes.
Great experiment and useful information. Do you tend to keep your paint watery so that it is more likely to soak in?
Thanks. I actually haven’t thought much about that but it would make another good experiment. I usually think about having the paint liquid enough to flow off the brush freely, if it starts getting thick I add water.
Fascinating
Thanks!
Andy, did you have to preheat the pot before firing it, or is it enough preheating when you start the fire on top, and let it burn slowly downward?
Yes, I did preheat in my oven at 250 for an hour or so. Because this video was specifically about firing I didn't cover that here.
Thanks. I will need to fire my own pots too, so I have lots to learn! I was sort of hoping you didn't need to preheat in an oven, because I have an RV stove that is very small.
Don't need the pot, so not posting comment for the raffle... just wanted to say that I enjoyed the video and you're doing great work with your production
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Would the mineral applied to the damp clay, then burnished, produce better results if the process was done say 2 or 3 times?
Sure
Where did you get the great containers you had you homemade manganese in?
Also what does oil do if combined with powder used to color?
Though I would like pot I don't have Instagram as I have a degoogled phone & to keep it "less spy" I must not use certain apps. I use the alt one recommended by Ron Braxman & flow his guide lines. Oh well!
Good question about the oil, I have never tried but might make an interesting experiment. The containers came from Hobby Lobby.
So many comments today from people without Instagram, I guess that was a bad idea on my part. You can shoot me an email if you want.
I knew your channel's community has some sense (Re Instagram). 😄
Cool experiment, love it when you show us these things!
So, how do I buy your stuff?
Meaning how to buy my pottery or are you looking for pottery tools and materials? I feel a few things on my website at ancientpottery.how
so can i use food dyes, dye the clay, wait for it to dry and then when i need to use it i can just when the brush and use it? cause... i have food dies... no black though, or white, so i'd need some help with that if anything
I would assume that food dyes are organic in nature and would burn away in the fire, But I am no expert on food dye.
Sir I'm confused, I thought the order of events would be wet process the clay, let it dry out well, form it, do a bisque fire in a homemade kiln, THEN paint it, and then seal it. You almost seem to be suggesting you paint it while it's still green and then you do your very first bisque fire. Is that correct? Thank you
You thought wrong. Southwest pottery is always fired only once so the painting and any other decoration are applied to greenware.
@@AncientPottery thank you very much for the response, I ended up seeing another video of yours breaking down how different minerals end up looking based on the firing and you said the exact same thing. That's wild, thank you!
I've been looking through your videos for an answer to my question, but can't find it. Can indigo be used for coloring, either adding to to the clay or making a paint from it? I'm growing indigo this year for coloring cold - process soap, so I will have a lot of indigo!
No. Because pottery is fired, any organic dyes will burn away leaving, at best carbon and at worst nothing.
@@AncientPottery thank you for your wisdom! It makes complete sense now that I think of it that way. I'll keep my indigo for soap and cotton!
Manganese dioxide is about 80% of most alkaline cell batteries..
I'm not sure its a good idea to be tearing open batteries, it can be purchased rather inexpensively online.
@@AncientPottery True, not sure about possible contamination. But it's basically free.
Beautiful craftsmanship. But sorry Andy I couldn't ever have instragram even if it ment I can't win the pot .but I will always like and comment to help your videos .💚🇮🇪🙏
Thanks Mark. The instagram thing was a mistake.
So sad its only US addresses only :(
International shipping is crazy, I wish it weren't. Over half my audience lives in some country other than the US.
I bought some yellow iron oxide and mixed like 40% clay in, I brushed it on to a clay pot that is slightly wetter than leather hard. And once it hardens a bit, shall I wet stone it or dry stone?? Thanks
Dry.
You need a class Timmy.
@@AncientPottery is it wrong? 😬
@@AncientPottery or do i just ask too many questions
@@Timmyjg2004 no your good but you could definitely benefit from a class.
السلام علكم اشكرك على متقدمه ولكن للاسف لا افهم اللغة الانقلزية ولكن اريد ان اسالك على مقدار الطين ومقدار المادة التي تظاف لطين لمنع التشقق انا كلما اصنع وعاء يتشقق سوال اخر الطبقة الحمراء التي تطلى فوق الانية كي تصبح حمراء كلها وملساء وشكرا كثيرا يريت تعمل ترجمة بلعربية
كقاعدة عامة ، أضف 20٪ رمل إلى الطين كمزاج لمنع التشقق عند التجفيف والحرق.
@@AncientPottery الرمل الأبيض أو الاحمر؟؟
الرمل الذي يصلح للبناء سمحتي اذا أثقلت عليك للأسئلة وشكرا
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Nice work did you get the package from me yet I hope you like it
No I didn't. Did you send it to my PO box? I haven't checked that for over a week.
@@AncientPottery yes I sent it to your po box
I would like to have pot of yours to say my prayers with I am 5 times nat.am.ind.from east side and lost my only plate in fire happy stile 64 I am trying to Pic up my people ways in pottery coil style yes I will cover and smoke it for my self. And grandfather grandfather wado
I sell pottery on my website, ancientpottery.how
What do you mean by bying stuff on the innernet? Is that some kind of local area network? Or do you mean the inTernet, with a T?
Ha ha you are so funny.
im so hot for some pot rn
LOL
Would love to win that pot to inspire and remind me everyday that I can do anything I put my mind to!!! @lillynners
Good thought for the day. Thanks!
Your the best, Andy
I want that pot
Thanks