Firing Pottery in Less Than 15 Minutes, The Salado Firing Method

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  • Опубліковано 28 гру 2021
  • Step by step instructions for firing oxidized organic paint pottery such as Salado Polychrome pottery, including 3 tips you will need to fire this way successfully. Come along with me on an early morning trip to the desert to fire some pottery. Learn to fire pottery outdoors without a kiln in the old ways.
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  • @violettracey
    @violettracey 2 місяці тому +2

    700 degrees Celsius is about 1,292 degrees Fahrenheit for anyone in the US. 😊 Thank you! This was an amazing video!

  • @timothyknorr8183
    @timothyknorr8183 2 роки тому +18

    I can’t wait to show this to my middle school pottery students. What a fantastic journey those pots went through. Thank you for taking the time to share!

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому

      Wonderful, thanks for sharing with your students

  • @krysab6125
    @krysab6125 Рік тому +6

    One thing I love about how you show us what you're doing is that, in all likelihood, it's what the ancient potters did - not reading about it, but watching and listening along with someone experienced, with trial-and-error thrown in. It's something uniquely human.
    Those pots came out beautifully - if they were on sale for a hefty price in somewhere like Anthropologie, I don't think any untrained eye would realise that these are ancient designs and methods!

  • @vicki1141
    @vicki1141 25 днів тому

    That last bowl is my favorite.

  • @ChadZuberAdventures
    @ChadZuberAdventures 2 роки тому +7

    Great explanation of how to do this. Very helpful and the pots really look beautiful.

  • @carol07643
    @carol07643 2 роки тому +3

    Your videos are exciting to eatch. It's amazing used how smart you ancestors were.

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому

      Thank you. yes, it is common for modern people to assume that the ancients were idiots but that can't be farther from the truth.

  • @AJoyfulClayTutor
    @AJoyfulClayTutor Рік тому +2

    Beautiful sunrise!

  • @alimay1011
    @alimay1011 6 місяців тому +1

    If I could make "test" pots as good as yours, Andy, I would be happy

  • @chompers11
    @chompers11 2 роки тому +2

    dang this is really cool thanks for sharing Andy

  • @josephkane1723
    @josephkane1723 2 роки тому +2

    Great job as always.Amazing

  • @GregoryCarrier
    @GregoryCarrier Рік тому +1

    Very inspiring. Beautiful work!

  • @cconover88
    @cconover88 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks Andy, for another great lesson.

  • @QuailCanyonAnthropolgy
    @QuailCanyonAnthropolgy 2 роки тому +6

    I like the lighter black that you got with the mesquite sap, just as much as the darker black with the yucca fruit. I think they all turned out wonderful and thank you again Andy for bringing us along! Very great tips and very beautiful pieces!

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Mark. I really like it too, it's just a bit of a let down because I was hoping for a dark black. It is certainly still a nice pot.

    • @HipposHateWater
      @HipposHateWater 2 роки тому +1

      @@AncientPottery Then again, it also opens up a third midtone option between the white and the pure black of the yucca fruit :)

    • @ElveeKaye
      @ElveeKaye Рік тому

      I would make designs using both types of dye, to get black and gray colors together.

  • @airstreamwanderings3683
    @airstreamwanderings3683 2 роки тому +4

    Good job as always. I like the design, painting, and most of all the good instruction.

  • @jeffreyconnell8410
    @jeffreyconnell8410 2 роки тому +13

    Great tips Andy. As usual, I learned something helpful...
    I fire in my woodstove. I know it's not strictly traditional, but once you understand it a little, it works great. With some blacksmithing tongs, It's possible to get those fire clouds to land on the pot where you want them, for instance. I get an interesting control with atmosphere by manipulating the dampers at different points in firing, as well. Give it a try if you have access to one. The results can be quite fine.
    Thanks Andy....and Happy Holidays from Scholle, NM! 🎉

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +6

      My first ever pottery firings were in a woodstove. There are no rules to pottery, just a million ways to do things, everybody does it a little different. Thanks for sharing your process.

    • @jeffreyconnell8410
      @jeffreyconnell8410 2 роки тому +5

      Yes, there are, and I really appreciate the sense of sharing/community you create here...and I will share anything that seems relevant and helpful too!
      Here's one...
      If you fire in your woodstove you can sleep for that hour that you spend driving to the boonies. 😋

  • @michelledenise5096
    @michelledenise5096 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video, excellent photo quality, and I love the big smile posing with your pots at the end!

  • @SF-gy3oj
    @SF-gy3oj 2 роки тому +4

    Should have watched this again before firing. Probably overloaded wood, slight breeze came up, should have broken it up sooner. Used 20% sand temper this time but all three bowls have cracks. But my red paint came out right, your smectite slip - more tan than white (almost pinto-ish), but good bee plant black- Finally!

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому

      That’s progress. Good black and red is a win. Add more temper to your clay next time. Look at some prehistoric Salado poly, the white is a bit tan/cream colored.

  • @jasongannon7676
    @jasongannon7676 10 місяців тому +1

    Very helpful video, thanks

  • @ninaspalace
    @ninaspalace Рік тому +1

    Am just captivated with your videos. You make them so interesting. Thanks

  • @siiiriously3226
    @siiiriously3226 Рік тому +1

    Love your channel. Your passion for clay is tangible.

  • @anndriggers6660
    @anndriggers6660 2 місяці тому +1

    Omgosh, this channel is so cool...I absolutely love it!

  • @coopart1
    @coopart1 2 роки тому +4

    I learn as much as I am inspired to experiment on my own from Andy Ward. My interest is mostly ancient mineral paint but I think there are some things shared in ancient potters material and methods using both organic and mineral paint. This is fun stuff and Andy keeps us engaged !

  • @hjd832
    @hjd832 Рік тому +1

    Impressively quick firing …& very nice Pueblo type designs , but I see you’re referring to prehistoric pots. Very interesting. Makes me want to try this ..
    Inspiring !

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  Рік тому

      I am a pottery replicator, that is to say I make replicas of ancient pots. So even if I am being creative in the designs I am always being inspired by the ancient potters. Thanks!

  • @vicki1141
    @vicki1141 25 днів тому

    Love the music you chose. Can you include the info about the music you use.? Thanks. What area did you fire in today? Because i have been toAza few times, i really enjoy seeing new places to explore

  • @tombrown407
    @tombrown407 2 роки тому +2

    Can you recommend any books or papers that have some of the broader archaeological context for the techniques you show on the channel?

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +2

      Ceramics For The Archaeologist amzn.to/3HfpLoL
      Ceramics And Ideology amzn.to/3vd0BEY
      Few archaeologists in the Southwest are focusing on the "techniques" of pottery production or even on experimental archaeology.

  • @baidarkaguy
    @baidarkaguy Рік тому

    Have you considered mixing the 2 paint types to get a hybrid to maybe bring out best of both worlds? Great application plus dark color.

  • @glynnphillips9703
    @glynnphillips9703 Рік тому +1

    ✨️Your AWESOME ✨️

  • @StefaniaFruitarianFarmer
    @StefaniaFruitarianFarmer 2 роки тому +1

    Today i was with a friend and we spoke about my absolute love of pottery! And low and behold you show up again on my feed! Haha thank you for inspiring me.. I WILL finally get my head around primitive pottery practices♥️☺️ and ooooo I’m gonna enjoy it! Thank you 🙏 and greetings from Italy!! From one of your Scottish italian fans!

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому

      Thanks for that, it's nice to know people appreciate my videos all over the world. Greeting from Arizona!

    • @davidrhp847
      @davidrhp847 Рік тому

      Google is listening 😮

  • @williamwarner6036
    @williamwarner6036 2 роки тому +1

    Really dialing it in Andy! Congratulations!!!! I know some at the last Kiln Conference (e.g. Ms. Caver) suggested that sulfur content of the organic paint might influence the black's darkness; but I really wonder if it is in part the sugars generated by slow cooking down plant materials. I expect that mesquite resin might be relatively low in sugar compared to yucca fruit--but who knows. In any event, I hope you will write this important bit of "experimental archaeology" up in a formal book or at least article that can be referenced, as this firing regimen works both in results and explains the lack of kilns found in the area in which this style of pottery was made.

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому

      Thanks Bill. Yes, I do need to write something eventually, I keep telling myself that.

  • @sandraleenerts6805
    @sandraleenerts6805 Рік тому

    It would be of help if you could mention the date at the beginning of each video. I am an avid follower. However, as a Luddite, I find myself lost in time. I appreciate all the time, effort , and selfless energy you put into each video.

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  Рік тому

      I appreciate luddites, I lean that way myself and I have many good friends of that persuasion. The date is right at the top of the dooblidoo for every video

  • @sarahgracesings
    @sarahgracesings 2 роки тому +2

    I have been learning SO much from your videos! I recently found some clay at a local creek which inspired me to to start looking into pottery. Question: have these vessels already been fired once and then painted and this is the second fire?

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +2

      No they have not already been fired. Traditionally, pottery in the Southwest is single-fired, so the pots are formed and decorated, then fired only once.

    • @sarahgracesings
      @sarahgracesings 2 роки тому

      Thank you so much Andy! I’m planning on making ceramic beads. I’ll add temper to the clay, form the beads, add a white slip. When the slip is dry, I’ll try and carve out a design. Then I’ll fire outside using this Salado technique. It will be very experimental, and who knows:could turn up horrible. But it will be an experience, and I’m sure I’ll learn some things! Any tips you can think of for clay beads? I noticed you kind of placed the pots on some rocks, but I’ve heard river rocks can explode if used in fire. Thank you so much for these amazing videos!!!

  • @carol07643
    @carol07643 2 роки тому +1

    Have you ever tried Black walnut hulls for paint? It dies on cloth a green color.

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +2

      I have not, but I know of an archaeology student who had good success with walnut. Remember though that when dying cloth the walnut acts as a pigment. While organic pottery paint will burn away any organic pigment, the black designs are just carbon, so just about any plant can work.

  • @sdavis7916
    @sdavis7916 Рік тому +1

    Hi Andy, thanks very much for taking the time to create and post your videos! Question for you-these pieces that you are pit firing, these are greenware right? You haven't bisqued them prior, is that correct?
    Thanks again!

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  Рік тому +1

      No not bisqued, these are green. Southwest pottery is traditionally fired only once.

    • @sdavis7916
      @sdavis7916 Рік тому

      @@AncientPottery thanks so much for your super fast reply!! Firing now, fingers crossed :)
      By the way, you are very inspirational!!

    • @sdavis7916
      @sdavis7916 Рік тому

      Firing complete, 6 in, 6 out, no breaks. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!!

  • @CeeJayKay
    @CeeJayKay Рік тому +1

    Andy, how do you know when the pots are done (firing)?

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  Рік тому +1

      When the carbon has burned off and the surface of the pot looks clean

  • @bigbranch1
    @bigbranch1 2 роки тому +1

    Great video.......does Mesquite sap disolve in water....how to you get the sap into a paint?

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Allen. Yes it does, please watch my previous video to learn about that process ua-cam.com/video/BQXeLTxXMH8/v-deo.html

    • @bigbranch1
      @bigbranch1 2 роки тому

      @@AncientPottery Watched this...am going to try pine rosin with the same technique....Thanks

  • @AnnetteLiceaga
    @AnnetteLiceaga 17 днів тому

    Where can I get the yucca fruit?

  • @4EvMyLovSav
    @4EvMyLovSav 2 роки тому +1

    So the mesquite sap pot .... that design of pot ... what do you think it was used for? I have a pot I cook in with that shape but it is 2 pieces with that style top (I call stove pipe top) it makes great eggs or small one pot dinners or bisuits & some other small raising bread.
    Though your pot is basically same shape it is one piece which would not allow it to be used as I use mine.

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, a lot of these were not cooking pots, in fact cooking pots in the ancient southwest tended to be plain or corrugated, not decorated like this one. These kinds of pots were probably used for storage.

    • @4EvMyLovSav
      @4EvMyLovSav 2 роки тому

      @@AncientPottery that does make sense with small hole top & so could be sealed with wood plug or wax & wood plug & since side of top slant toward hole it would be easy to pour even last little bit. Thank you I should have seen that myself but am always thinking of cooking end i guess. Maybe i should consider it ingredient storage or spice containers. Clay pots are very good to store in.

  • @jeffreyconnell8410
    @jeffreyconnell8410 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Andy, I have been thinking about these organic binders, and am wondering if has anyone tested saliva yet? I'm thinking along the lines of what was most readily available, and might have the viscosity/adhesive quality necessary to support the oxides. It's easily possible to change the viscosity of your spit with different foods. Think about what nice paint you might make after drinking a little milk or grapefruit juice? I don't know, but someone's bound to have tried it, right?

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +2

      Clint Swink said he tried various bodily fluids, I did not ask him to elaborate…

    • @jeffreyconnell8410
      @jeffreyconnell8410 2 роки тому +2

      @@AncientPottery Ha! Yeah, I woulda left that one alone where Clint was anywhere near, let alone drawing from his personal experience.
      We all seem to be obsessed to one degree or another with the clay... As for my part, I'm already well deep enough down the rabbit hole to be able to justify the saliva test anyway. Ok, maybe even an earwax-resist test out of pure curiosity, but no further! 😁

  • @bje2920
    @bje2920 2 роки тому +2

    Nice work p posted some of my makes on the wild clay club group on Facebook

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому

      Looking on there trying to see which post is yours. Are you BJ Levy?

    • @bje2920
      @bje2920 2 роки тому

      @@AncientPottery my post is waiting for approval in that group I will post in primitive pottery group my name is bj Esancy

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +1

      @@bje2920 thanks. Primitive Pottery is a better group as it is mine.

  • @esben181
    @esben181 2 роки тому +1

    This pottery was already fired once and turned ceramic in another fire right? Or have you made it ceramic in only 15 minutes?

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +1

      No, this was green ware going in, this was essentially bisque fired in 15 minutes. It will not be fired again, single-fired pottery. BOOM!

  • @kadensmith8851
    @kadensmith8851 Рік тому +1

    How can you tell when it's reaches the right temperature without using paint/slip?

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  Рік тому +1

      If you are not using organic paint it is much easier because there is no danger of overfilling it so I will just let it burn until the wood is all burned up. I have other videos showing this method too.

  • @mihailvormittag6211
    @mihailvormittag6211 Рік тому +1

    👍

  • @sheilam4964
    @sheilam4964 2 роки тому +1

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @TravelsWithSophia
    @TravelsWithSophia Рік тому

    Chem trails in the sky 14:15 time stamp.

  • @techtonikness
    @techtonikness 2 роки тому +2

    Why is it that everything I read online says you have to pit fire for hours? Iv read anything from 4-18 hours in the fire.

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  2 роки тому +1

      No idea, once the pottery reaches the desired temperature it does nothing extra to hold it there. If your pottery is massive or thick it may take longer for the middle to get hot enough, but if your pottery is relatively thin, it should be a rather short process.

  • @Bashirbros
    @Bashirbros 8 місяців тому

    you've never mentioned how long it takes to fire the pottery

  • @Greg-yu4ij
    @Greg-yu4ij Рік тому

    You’re in the middle of nowhere. Who calls the fire department?

    • @AncientPottery
      @AncientPottery  Рік тому +1

      I live in the middle of Tucson, I drive out to the middle of nowhere to fire my pottery so nobody will call the fire department.