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The stun literally stuns everything. Hulks chargers titans. It’s pretty good
Yeah that's really great then. How long does the stun last on bigger boys? Might really facilitate stratagem combos
Even if the stun is a second. It allows you to line up the perfect shot to kill something like a charger. Stun the charger and line up a EAT-17 to the head. Berserker bots. Stun the pack of them and line up a head shot. Making packs of Berserker bot a lot less scary.
I saw aguy spamming a charger with it. There was no stun
@dontclickthechannel7949 if that's true, then I agree the stun grenades are worse then I believe. Still better then the content creator thinks as you can stun packs of mobs before an airstrike to maximize kills.
Best way to get a Titan under a 500kg
The new booster increases the amount of time between enemy reinforcement calls. The bot or bug will start doing the call in animation but nothing will happen. Helps reduce those seemingly endless reinforcement loops
thing is, you can literally run away from fights, reposition, and keep going with your mission. Never understood why people love to pick unnecessary fights on the battlefield
@@vpaul4374because shooting guns and making things go boom is fun. Nothing is more cinematic than making a final stand before being overran
@jetsgo66 I pretty much agree, but I like to show-off while also completing objectives
@@vpaul4374 Because there are situations where fights are unavoidable, not every encounter can be stealthed through. It really sucks to clear out a Heavy Nest only for a single scavenger to survive the bombardment and call in reinforcements. With the booster you would at least get a chance to find him and delete him before his buddies get called.
@@vpaul4374This only applies for when you dont need to actually be there. A bug breach on a main obj or even optional is a huge pain.
The stun grenade works on bile titans with no diminishing returns. Absolutely do not ignore them.
Yup. Teammate had some and we were all blown away by how effective they were. Guess Mr UA-cam can't test against real scenarios because skill issue. The shotgun is awesome too.
@@kurtcreanthe armor as well. i think the shotgun splash damage counts as arc damage so you don’t die from it. thinking bout going all energy build now
@@EdTheCreator That's cool, I do want to try an all arc armour run but my friends are behind on the pass so have to wait haha.
@@kurtcrean I assume it's the direction of testing. When using it as a solo player, you might not be able to capitalise on the stun much, making it feel underwhelming. Whereas in a team, it's a huge force multiplier allowing your team to focus on major threats.
Folks, stun grenades are S tier. The ability to slow a heavy and maximize your strategem strikes is immeasurably valuable.
I'm amazed you don't see the potential in stun grenades. You can freeze a horde of enemies in a strategem's damage zone, keep hunter groups stationary instead of dodging or jumping, interrupt enemy patrol alerts for those enemies you can't quite get shots at or kill quickly since the AOE is so big. The fact that we have faster more reliable access to EMS zones is insane. and these will absolutely be great to pair with any orbital or airstrike, flamethrower, tesla tower, or just to keep bugs off of you, or defend an area like extraction, battery silo, seismic probe where you can't run away by keeping enemies from overrunning you.
I don't know what people expect.
It was obviously going to be a weaker version of the ems calldown.
But like smoke grenades there's a strength in not having a big laser in the sky or several minute cooldown between uses
He play difficult 3 and he think is the game expert🤣
I love how you call the Plasma Shotgun VERY underwhelming while two-tapping Bile Spewers with body shots lol. It's got its downsides for sure but it's by far the best primary against medium armor.
yeah why do people think its bad? its a better scorcher with more ammo and a better reload???
@@turbo111777 slugger better imo
@turbo111777 it's a mind game to say something is bad when it's good so it doesn't get nerffed like the railgun and breaker did. Last thing ppl need to to start hyping the new weapons just to immediately get a nerf.
@@lycanenferno5109 I see what you're saying but that's on the devs if they want to be weirdos
@@lycanenferno5109 Which never works and only INCREASES the chances of said nerf.
"The stun grenade is pretty lackluster"
Well, there goes any credibility this guy had
*the literal best item in the entire game and a guaranteed must pick for Diff 6 and above*
This guy: mid.
he was on difficulty 3, whatd you expect, lmao
@@AlissahKat To test it out for more than .5 nanoseconds and in an actual difficulty that spawns every bug in the sandbox?
@@gracecalis5421 don't let arrowhead find out about it stunning titans
2 chargers, a bile titan and lots of smaller bugs... Team mate reinforcing, as soon as they land I threw a stun, then waited a moment and threw another. By the time the second stun finished, team mate is safe and is helping to clear the adds while my anti tank lands. Very useful.
The plasma shotgun can kill chargers on its own witch is pretty cool
Most primaries can kill chargers if you juke well enough though. The important question for me is how fast/how many shots does it take?
That's interesting, maybe pairs well with the machine gun then. I really like the MG but feels like a risk not to have a support weapon that can take armored enemies.
Which witch is pretty cool?
And yourself too ! Great weapon for bugs
@@grillmeisterkush6396 in my brief testing before work, it takes a full mag in the chargers ass. Didn't have time to try a bunch of different ways.
😂 “this gun sucks” as he plows through armored bile spewers
the new armors allows you to extend the range of your team mates arc throwers beyond the normal max range when they shoot you.
And that will help… when?
@@doomsdaylamb let your teams arc thrower mates shoot you and you will see that they can snipe from further away. that is literally the use of the armor the passive is meh otherwise
Lets you sit in a field of Tesla towers as bugs get fried too. Drop EMS on the crowd to make sure the tower doesn't break.
Did you forget that your teammates still take damage?
@@jonhack2585 Not even the plasma shotgun. Just go full commit and run the arc shotgun. Closest pistol is the Dagger though, but the arc loadout can take anything the bugs can throw and almost anything from the bots except arty towers that are too high up to get eye-level on. If you're at eye level or close to it, then you can zap the turret in eight shots and not even worry.
The plasma shotgun is god tier for robots. 1 hit scouts, destroys devistators, and can 1 clip tanks
I was about to comment that after seeing the weapon vs bugs... If vs bugs is BM against automatons must be S+ for sure
How does it compare to the scorcher. Is it even better than the scorcher for the bots
Same thing for the last gun on the free war bond
@@isaacdayton4962 He is talking about the scorcher.
@@AnonD38no he's talking about the plasma shotgun in the new battle pass
The stun grenade is the best grenade so far imo. It freezes chargers ....I throw.. and afterwards 500kg directly hit always bam bam. Even Titans. The 500 kg bomb is so powerful with the stun grenade.
Think the issue with these immediate ideas, like what most of youtube is used to, is you really don't get the full time needed to understand nuances about these tools. I hope everyone that looks at these weapons early on gives better looks later with retractions and better understandings.
These videos are less for the viewers and more for him. The viewers benefit from him taking the time to get to know the items more intimately and see any unseen quirks or interactions that change their dynamics. But he benefits from shitting out a quick and fast video because it's a hot and fresh topic and he'll get more views by being early to the party. He didn't even fucking wait to unlock the third page weapon before getting this video out.
Remember, he is just trying to get his video out while its a hot topic. His intention is not to inform anyone with thorough information. He just wants views.
Yeah, you really need to figure out what pros and cons in the long run. Not just test it in one mission. Scythe all the way btw
Nothing tests a weapon better than a level 3 mission
He probably played a single mission, couldn't aim for shit (He literally admitted that the weapon will one shot weak enemies with a direct hit, then went on to continue saying "It CANNOT one shot the weakest enemies in the game"), and decided it's trash.
He basically assumed that it's a grenade launcher, (Note how he keeps stressing how it 'fires GIANT balls of plasma' despite them being... fairly small), so he went into a low level mission to test it against swarms of small enemies, it didn't preform how he expected (Because it's made for hitting weak spots, not crowd control), so he automatically decided it's trash.
enemy health/armor values doesnt change on any of the difficulties
@@Riptitde777hahahahahahaha are you sure?
@@LucaErFioDeNaruto ye the only thing that changes are what enemies show up and how much there are lol
@@LucaErFioDeNarutoif you dunno basics about the game like how the difficulty works i suggest you to watch more videos and read more about it before commenting
I'll be waiting for his retraction on the new punisher
Maybe if the new armors each provided partial resistance to other damage types? A medium with Arc/ Fire, heavy with Arc/ Explosions, Light with Arc/ chemical?
As a flamethrower user I would love a fire resistant armor. Always setting my damn self on fire 😂
@@bsmitty8223 Pretty I saw leaks of a similar couple armor sets down in the pipeline for Fire resist.
Just made me think we're gonna get bile type weapons
@@nahfr. Oh that would be sick!! An acid thrower maybe? I could see a “Corrosive” damage type being super good against heavy armor… or maybe thats my time in Borderlands talking
We need a passive to resistance to acid/poison man
The booster is potentially OP.
I was playing an eradicate mission, someone put the booster on and we had 30 seconds without any bugs coming in... The affect was huge
The booster does virtually nothing in most normal missions, unless you're choosing to fight everything and need a little more time to stop them from calling reinforcements.
It's super good for eradication missions and the silo missions, I'd assume it's also great for the evacuation missions, too.
The Breaker S&P is quite solid now after the buff, give it another try
agreed, it's amazing against bugs now, very generous ammo, great at dealing with chaff
It's definitely not quite as good as the breaker pre nerf, but it's a very solid close range option. The S&P has been my go to for bugs ever since the buff.
It's my go-to when running arc thrower. Spray and pray does great work when a group of hunters manage to sneak up out close the gap and too many for a backward dive with the arc thrower
Yeah I was about to say the same thing, ever since the patch that gun actually works pretty well for light/medium target clearing. I’ll even use it against bots from time to time, has saved me from sticky situations.
I feel like people are getting to caught up on the stats of a gun (seeing a bigger or smaller number) and not paying attention to what the weapon is actually used for, which is situational.
For example with the breaker S&P You use other gear to compensate for the lower AP of your primary, like the rail gun, anti material rifle, etc… giving your self a good mix of equipment either will make or break the weapons you bring into combat.
Of course this is only my opinion and personal experience with the game, so people should just play what they enjoy
It's not bad but it doesn't replace the original breaker imo. Scorcher and breaker are still my go tos even after patches and new war bond
I've found the best way to avoid being teamkilled with randoms is being proactive in handling what needs to be handled. Pick a direction, not in front of the arc thrower, and go for it. They'll either follow behind you or go their own direction and make a bunch of noise pulling attention from you. Been able to handle all sorts of objectives for the team that way and is why I still love light armor even after the rating fix. Lets me keep ahead of the pack and out of the way while still being useful with radar pings and goodie collection.
This! I've had very successful games at 7+ while being mindful of my positioning.
I picked it up, the Laz-16 Sickle feels like the weapon I've been waiting for to fit the Kite and Fight playstyle I prefer. Also helps to not have a primary run out of Ammo when you carry those precious Support weapons like the Recoilless Rifle
not just not running out of ammo, an energy based means that sickle, like scythe, will ALWAYS be in "full ammo" after you use your support weapon. so whenever you're getting flanked and ganked by hunters, you can always switch to sickle and it'll be ready, full ammo, to clean up those hunters.
except if you overheat the gun previously and haven't changed the heat exchanger...
yeah i can definitely see this one. I always carry an ammo backpack since my prime is nearly always empty (trigger happy) - thats also the reason why i cant play autocan or recoiless. Then i guess the secondary should be an energyweapon too, so you can always change weapon for heat cooldown.
light armor that can carry more stun grenades capable of stunning bile titans? while being able to reduce my recoil on my MG, more relevant than ever after the "Heavy enemy reduction" patch? I think I'm in love.
The stun grenade is absolutley AWESOME!. With an AMR you cab stun a whole horde of Devastators and they will freeze in place, making it possible to one shot them one after the other. Same with Hulks, I killed 3 Hulks in a row by just stunning them, walking on theye back and blasting them, or just by shooting them twice in the eye with the AMR. Dosn't matter how close they are to you. It's by far my favorite grenade now and it will replace the impact one. Obviously I just wish it could explode bug holes and fabricators. Also, the Plasma Shotgun is not the best, I agree, but it does 2 shot devastators on body shots, 1 shot striders. What I don't like is the super super small hitbox of the plasma ball itself, often I saw it going through units without registering the hit, and I also don't like the fact that it shoots like a grenade launcher and not like a shotgun. I wish it was a Slugger but with plasma.
Plasma shotgun appears to hace significant stagger and pushback. Looks to me like more of a crowd control weapon making space with big groups
Think the goal Is to wrack up AOE damage and stagger use it like a grenade launcher.
A lot of these reviewers can only see single target DPS.
It seems to be like a grenade launcher toned down to be a primary
Agreed, it does decent damage too though
I saw someone use the stun grenade, and I think it's way better than you think, the person using it was able to stun a bile titan for a few seconds and with right timing keep it In place for a minute or more.
Its the perfect set up for 500kg bombs!
Go figure, it's a support grenade not a killing one.
Complaining about the lack of damage demonstrates a lack of understanding
Do the illuminate use electricity for their attacks? If so that could be what the armor is preparing for but I rly don’t like the idea of having armor that lets you ignore 90% of a factions damage
It was plasma lightning and kinetic, so 1/3 damage types they have lol
It also pairs with your teammates running the arc thrower. And their shots will chain off of you and onto enemies. And prevents damage from Tesla towers. So it’s not just for faction. A full team with arc throwers and this armor probably slaps.
It's possible that a lot of their enemies will use arc damage, but probably only certain rank&file enemies or maybe 1 heavy type. Which would make the armor useful against them but not all-encompassing. The same way the explosive-resistance armor helps against rocket guys from Automatons.
They might have some electric attacks but definitely not all electric. It's possible the bots may also get some sort of electric attack in the future. Think of it like the armor that gives 50% explosive resistance. It will be good against some things but useless against others.
It would be fine if it was only like one or two illuminate units that used actual arcs.
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8:19 I believe the airstrike has to hit it dead on with the bomb, the explosion itself will not destroy the hole.
I believe the issue is the direction that the fire came from. A strike that hits the back covering of a bug hole can stop the damage to the hole and prevent it from being closed. You see it a lot in hatcheries since they have those tall walls. They prevent a lot of the damage to eggs depending on how the stratgem lands.
The booster is actually insanely good and is a must bring tier 7 and above difficulty
did you test it or just saying if it works the way it says it does it would be good?
@epicpants9916 tested it, it's a very significant difference. Makes it so much more manageable.
@@Cracked_Tectonicdoes it decrease bug breaches and bot drops only or even the patrols?
The stun grenade stops chargers, and gives you time to run away or call in a stratagem. Also, the plasma shogun is more of a plasma grenade launcher. It's meant to do aoe to a group of enemies.
Though the plasma shotgun isn’t good on single enemies. It seemingly clears groups of them very quickly. Doing a tower defense I saw it demolish multiple enemies with less ammo than other primaries would have taken to do the same job.
pretty sure that the flexible reinforcement budget booster reduces time to around 1:47-1:48 and not 1:57.
still too small a buff to warrant taking over more powerful boosters though.
The new armor actually allows for you to use your teammates as arc extenders, as they will allow you to shoot the bugs through them from ridiculous distances, while they get no damage from it😊
Players: The Punisher Plasma needs a buff.
Arrowhead: We nerf the Sickle.
The p plasma does not need a buff and the sickle does not need a nerf you are just running your mouth in hope of a couple likes
@@nahfr. exactly, that's why Arrowhead will do as he said
you are using the stun grenade wrong, it stuns Bile Titans and Chargers for about 5 seconds wich makes it super easy to land a 500kg bomb right next to a Titan or shoot a Charger in the face with an EAT easier
Really good then, can set up wombo combos with teammates like you said
im guessing for bots its useless tho?
@@totoky0 If you want a specialised grenade against bots, use the smoke grenade, works wonders!
@@totoky0Stuns everything as well, even tanks. Stun a tank, flank it with an Autocannon, guaranteed kill. If hulks are running at you, stun them for 5 seconds, and land 2 easy headshots with the AC for a kill. It's still a very strong pick for bots, but it's a MUST PICK for bugs. Have 2 people run this grenade with the grenadier armor and you have 12 stun grenades that can stunlock titans and chargers for 60 seconds combined. It will be a must pick for Helldive difficulty. It guarantees 500kg kills on Titans.
@@totoky0 good question, I only play bugs so i dont really know, i hate bot missions
Plasma shotgun is meant for charger orange butts and bile titan green belly. With new stun grenade, it's more effective against chargers, throw it after you dodge it then blast its butt, does big damage, 5 shots to blow up its butt. It replaces my EAT slot
Plasma Shotgun also great for stunning and killing stalkers, 3 shots. Good for orange spewers, about 3-4 shots, and stuns their spew
The stun grenade is good for when you get swarmed as it won’t kill you and gives you a few seconds of time to breathe. It also stops chargers ( though they just stay stuck in their running animation and resume after they aren’t stunned… it looks really silly), but most importantly it’s great for team play. If you have a teammate getting chased it’s really good for getting enemies off them without risk of killing them, allowing for the team to set up really good group kills
Armors are a bit of a let down but weapons, at least two of them, look very good. Sickle was my favourite in the first Helldivers so looking forward to try it out.
The sickle is pretty much just an objectively better liberator (Potentially infinite ammo, more controllable; same damage, handling and sight), with the only downside being that it requires a short spool-up before it starts shooting.
The plasma punisher is weird to get used to, but it provides certain utility that the other primaries just don't have (actually decent explosive splash damage, and the ability to lob shots over terrain like a mortar). It also helps that it has the punisher standard knockback effect, so it will stagger things on hit.
It may not be the absolute best, but once you get used to the firing arc, it is efficient and extremely reliable. Just don't shoot anything that's directly touching you.
Oh? Whats the other one you think is good?
@nahfr. that last one on the 3rd page seams good.on paper. But I've seen a clip yesterday of a guy killing chargers with the shotgun from a second page....so looks like all 3 weapons are good
The grenade is CRAZY against bugs on higher difficulties if you're using the flamethrower.
It'll stun enemies for a couple moments in a surprisingly wide area(I believe it's the largest area for any grenade in the game)
But the interesting thing is that while the enemies are stunned the ones that are behind them will keep walking forward towards you, in just two or so seconds you end up with a meatball of bugs clustered on top of each other for you to cook.
SOOOOO HAPPY that the Sickle is so good! It's such a breath of fresh air to have an assault rifle in this game that's really good and isn't the default Liberator. Used it a couple of times now and I'm very satisfied. Can't wait to get the Dagger too to have an infinite never ending barrage of laser death. Also excited for the Blitzer, here's hoping its as good as the Breaker or more!
The stun is amazing. Makes Precise orbital and 500kg into extremely accurate titan killers
Another thing about that armor with the electrical passive. I think it’ll be way more useful when the illuminate are added to the game because I think they’re going to do a lot of electric damage
You can use the arc armor to allow your ally's arc to jump off you to the bugs in front of you. It might work for the arc orbital.
do note that resisting arc damage could gain in vale once the third faction is out, since their frontline troops used electric attacks in the first game
Maybe the booster spawns less patrols, so you can go to objectives faster, but because you can get to objectives faster, the rate of fighting is still the same. You could look at the time it took to complete missions with the booster and without, and look for if the booster reduces the total time.
The booster, from my testing of using it for ~5 hours today, is great for making eradication missions easier, and is actually OP for the silo defense missions we've got right now, as it makes the waves take way longer to spawn, thus massively reducing the risk you take when fighting, since they can't swarm you as easily.
With sickle tap fire is pretty insane, you can also keep the "wind upp" active while switching targets. Insanely accurate so well placed shots can decimate enemys!
Everyone saying “META” might as well say they Solo Dive.
Because if you’re part of a friend group and Dive together, meta doesn’t matter and every weapon/utility is viable.
I disagree. If you're running something weak in your team, the damage you would put out with a stronger tool falls to someone on the team and they have to try harder due to that.
Plus there is plenty virtually useless stratagems and weapons.
@@Johnykluk okay, I’ll hinge it with “almost every weapon”.
For instance, the Medium Armor Piercing AR is bad on solo. But with a team it’s really good.
Clearly you never dove a hell dive when everyone forgot to bring anti-armor
@@willlliorca7024 Sure. But then you have the Slug Punisher that deals high dmg and also penetrates, which makes grabbin the AR obsolete. I'm just saying that there's mostly better options that also help your team more.
@@nerdynautilus5373 what’s that have to do with primary weapons? Those are stratagems. And yeah, I’ve never run a Helldive without anti-armor because that would be stupid.
Was that supposed to be a dunk or a self indictment? lol
So, stun grenade also works on chargers, and if you use the plasma shotgun to shoot below the charger, you could kill it rather quickly. So it's a primary weapon that could quickly kill chargers.
It also has medium armor penetration allowing you to pack the stalwart for the chaff. Add stun grenades and a supply pack with an engineer perk of +2 grenades and we are talking lock down city.
@@donalddouds6033I normally use flamethrower since it can clear mobs AND take care of chargers. But with a primary that can take on chargers, I could switch to the arc thrower for mob clear. It's been mostly great so far, but need to work on consistently killing chargers with the plasma shotgun.
@@sergiokaratekid I’ve been an Arc Thrower main from the get go. This would be a change of pace as I have converted the two friends I play with to the power of the Palpatine build :)
God the armor looks so clean.and you have good taste using the same armor combo i chose after unlocking the warbond.
I have a feeling that when the Illuminate show up that arc damage resistance will be a lot more beneficial.
The electric resistance I think will be super helpful as I read that the new enemy we will get the illuminate use arc weapons
This armor set might seem trivial now but when the illuminates return, they do deal arc damage.
The energy rifle has an unparalleled ammo economy with what feels like bottomless heatsinks. It makes rapid work against small bugs, most importantly hunters. It struggles against larger enemies like brood commanders, spewers(both kinds) and hive guards. Rapid fire rate and no recoil. Overall a very solid choice.
The plasma punisher… more of a grenade launcher. Its pretty versatile. It shreds hordes of small enemies, bypasses medium armor completely, and yes, can kill chargers in between 4-6 shots if u aim under them. Against automatons the aoe is fantastic. Scout striders are just, childs play. The aoe is pretty large. Ammo economy is good too.
Stun grenade… oh the stun grenade… works on everything. See a charger, throw the stun, then follow up with a precision strike, 500gk, anything. This works on BILE TITANS!!! Love this thing…
And arc shotgun… its uhh.. its alright in my opinion. I’d love to be proven wrong about this. Fun to use. It staggers enemies, has an insane amount of damage point blank, but its firerate is a**… hitting an ally with the new armor and ragdolling them is funny though.
These are just my opinions… everyone is free to have their own thoughts on these weapons… if i got anything wrong lemme know… these guns are FUN.
My favourite is dominator, liberator penetrator, slugger, autocanon, EATs, incendiary breaker, ....i mean there is a lot of good weapons, and the sickle is good, i love it, finally a new AR that's good
the new armour passive is going to be INCREDIBLE once the illuminates are added - if they're anything like the first game's illuminates, many of them will use electric arcs as weapons. I suspect that they've added this hard-counter armour set ahead of the illuminate reveal specifically so that people get to try it out, be underwhelmed, and then later get to go back and "discover" it's secret usefulness.
wild, the stun grenade is the single best item you can bring into the game, it stuns everything, meaning you can pick how you want to engage, keep enemies in place to either flank them or keep them in a stratagem, I only wish I could carry more any encounter with it is trivial
as for the plasma shotgun it is primary grenade launcher, it is weaker, but it is a primary, with larger mag, faster reload and better handling, one guy taking it on a team is definitely a good call
I can't believe it the plasma shot gun makes the dominator look good. I use the dominator as my main weapon and now it finally is not the worst weapon in the game I am very happy. How does the plasma do against armored enemies though if you could just shoot the front of a hulk a few times and because of the explosion it hits the weak point could potentially be powerful.
It's great against bile and nursing spewers, it does splash damage against scavengers, it's got 104 shots... It's actually pretty good... It's just not really a shotgun. It's more of a grenade launcher. And the cyclic rate is kinda slow.
More like this guy makes the dominator look good 😂 the gun slaps
The dominator was never the worst weapon in the game, wtf?
@@RandomQuestNPC yeah it isnt hes litterally just speaking out of his ass
@@RandomQuestNPC I personally don't think it's the worst but it's that a lot of people call it that. Also after watching more videos it's clear that the plasma gun is definitely pretty good against armored enemies.
My own experience with the weapon gives me two things that I'd say. The EMP grenade is a bit niche since, as you point out, it doesn't destroy nests and fabs. But stunning a charger with one then calling down a resupply drop to kill it is a lot of fun. It can also help on bots when you want to flank a target to get at weak points. Not a 'every mission' tool, but not a bad one.
The plasma shotgun is a better weapon against bots than bugs, but even against those it's a love it or hate it gun. There are a few targets it takes down amazingly well (like striders) but other times when you put three shots between the legs of a basic bot and it's still alive where you curse it. My friends are split on it. The one guy who loves to lob shots and somehow manages to hit things by shooting into the air over cliffs thinks it's the best primary ever. The rest of us will never equip it again.
I tried the Booster on Helldive runs with the Terminids. Several times we noticed the scout bugs call for reinforcements while we had to hunker down, and probably a quarter of the time (roughly) no bug breach. I feel like it helped a bit on the Refuel missions, obviously not so much on the 15 Minute Blitz missions.
The new armor is most likely going to be REALLY good against the Illuminates once they're added lol. So it's a bit niche now, but in the future it might be super useful.
one thing you need to know is
the illuminate in the first games have some enemy using electricity weapon
so maybe is good vs new enemy who will come later
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Have you tested the plasma shotgun on automaton? It might be possible that the explosion can deal enough headshot damage to devastator / berserker?
The other reason you might use the arc armor is if you have two friends using arc throwers. You can run around in enemies with shotguns without having to worry about the throwers fragging you. The stun grenades stop chargers mid charge and can hold even Bile titans in place for 500kg bombing or two accurate headshots for a EAT-I7.
i love when dom rounds my table
Interesting takes.
The new booster is EXTREMELY good for the current terminid special mission, massively reducing how many enemies you get. I was able to do all of the silo protections solo on difficulty 7.
It's also extremely good for eradication missions, since the waves will have longer timers between them, meaning you'll have more time to kill the first wave before the second spawns, reducing the likelihood of getting overrun. The downside of doing this is that it makes them take significantly longer, but it also makes doing them solo or with a not very good group much easier.
The new booster is very good, but it's also situational.
ive been stunning chargers and using the scorcher, very nice indeed
I need some acid resist armor
I'll wait it out but the las sickle seems neat
Nice
Why do the devs hate people to have good weapons. It’s PVE . Weapons should all be fun
Im so glad you could make some detailed research on this warbond after it just came out gg. Literally not enough data to tell if the guns are good
That second super store armor is exactly what I've been hoping for. Light armor? Engineering kit? GoOD COLORS!? COORDINATES WITH MY FAVORITE HELMET? Sweet baby jesus, i'm having a moment.
if that plasma shotgun kills striders and spewers, it may be what I run aside an AMR (for bots) or a arc thrower (for bugs). Switching to a side arm unironically isn't that bad because if i'm doing that it's cause a hunter ran up on me and arc thrower is shit at close range
Hey nice vid an thx! How don’t you like medic armour its 2seconds invincibility per stim?!? It’s soooo clutch.
Does the stun grenade work on bigger enemies as well? Like can it stop a chargers charge
Idk, the localization confusion on some games with it on and without it on, level 7-9 last night. we noticed a huge difference with it. It’s my new go to booster for certain missions.
We kept saying to each other how some matches (not all) were eerily empty. Just a couple packs of patrols here and there, it doesn’t stop them from calling in breeches though. Also, when doing the objectives, there was instances where nothing spawned at all. Making it so the civilians extract was literally sit and click
That booster on page one is insane. Increasing time between enemy waves could be a total game changer on difficulty 7 and above. I'm excited to try the guns, but I'll save up some Super Credits for that booster alone. The Sickle also looks great. This war bond might be picking up for the first page.
depends on the increase of time, if it's even 50% increase it's insane. if it's only like 10% (which from most things it seems like that's the percentage they go for) it would be pretty lackluster
@@epicpants9916 Fair point. And I doubt it would ever be my first pick. I always go for Space Optimization first and Stamina Enhancement second. But if other players go for those, then I have to stop and think about it.
I'm interested in how exactly what you talk about around 9:20 will work with the Dagger pistol. You might be able to swap back and forth seamlessly to maintain damage without a reload. Imagine that with the Rover going too, Lasers everywhere.
Also, the splash damage issue with the Plasma shotgun is also present in the Scorcher. Can't use it on stuff in your face or you will blow that face off.
the airstrikes alternates between left and right when it flies in, it depends on where it last came from. most likely hit the hill and missed the hole.
Oh damn, that Tesla Tower + Armor buff could make some great defensive stand.
Get the MG43, wear that armor, call down a tesla coil and lay next to it and hold the line. maybe a Guard Dog backpack as well and you can hold the line fairly good against light and medium enemies with ease.
I might test that one when i got them all unlocked.
did you test the weapons on skynet too?
stun grenade has a very VERY high utility purpose. 2-3 chargers coming at you? throw them the stun nades, and then call in eagle. chargers dead.
oh what's that? bile titan? stun nade and call eagle to drop 500kg bomb right on top of its head. you'll never miss 500kg bomb to a titan ever again.
I agree with almost everything he says except for the stun grenades. My favorite use of the stuns is to stun a whole wave of guys and light them up with the flamethrower. You can use this trick with chargers as well. The stun grenade even works with bile Titans. It is very useful.
i find the punisher plasma is useful when working with a team as a way to saturate an area. it would be more useful if secondary weapons could have more ammo.
I get killed from splash damage from the Slugger and ironically enough the bug I shot tends to survive. Lol
I personally really love the aesthetic the armorsets
Fire resistant armor would be great. Maybe the illuminates use some kind of arc weapons so the armor will shine there.
The stun seems to be best used for stunning heavies for a stratagem
the armor is insanly good for the recent tower missions. 4 people with that armor and 4 tesla armors around a tower and you are practically guaranteed win that mission.
i hope that booster is more noticeable for stealth gameplay, as ive watched a video where the dude referred to a "booty" squad is always following you since the get go of missions
ive used the arc shotgun, and bad news, it struggles to clear hordes once you introduce more than 8 enemies at a time. You would think it would excel at that being a lightning shotgun, but its damage is wildly inconsistent. Ive had a round one shot 2 hunters between both, ive had a round 2 tap a single hunter with it being the only target i shot, ive gotten 5 kills in a blast, and ive also failed to kill a scavenger in a single blast. Its like using wild magic if the best thing it can do is a simple arcane blast, and the worst thing it can do is color spray or team damage.
It does apply stun at the very least, and seems to penetrate medium armor well, but with such slow pumps and taking about 3-5 for a single hive guard, that will take you around 7 seconds for a single enemy stronger than a warrior, even longer with more as the damage gets DIVIDED between targets.
I have not used the las pistol, but given the stats are half of the laser rifle that already feels like a dead tv remote, im wiling to bet it will be one of the most underwhelming weapons in the arsenal right beside the scythe and now, the plasma shotgun and lightning shotgun.
This pass is basically 1000 super credits for the sickle.
these new armor with arc thrower will be the perfect rush
when testing the new booster it felt like several minor place of interest which would normally have had dudes were actually empty
That reinforcement booster actually scales with squad size. With 4 helldivers it reduces the timer by TWELVE seconds.
Isnt that amazing?!
The stun grenade can stun the bite titan and charger.
That should do the whole lot when u think about it.
I like the arc resistance for TCS defence mission so I can run thru tesla sentries without having to worry about dying.
Ive been switching between the Sickle and the Laser Canon in game. Switch between the two before they over heat and it feels like unlimited lasers 💪🏼
I like watching multiple people review these. It's interesting to see based on someone's play style what they feel is good or bad. Some weapons I just watched one person say are S-Tier amazing this guy says are a pass or not great. Love how many options there are to customize to your gameplay style. So far I'm really liking this warbond!
The arc shotgun is AMAZING, it fixes all the issues for arc thrower dealing with up close enemies. You run arc thrower+shotgun in a game, you get unlimited ammo, with the ability to control crowds and deal with charger. I bet they will get nerfed.
ARC resist has more to offer, use the arc resist to make the spark jump further or getting an swarmed helldiver free.