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    00:00 Intro
    00:45 LAS-99 Quasar against Bugs
    06:42 LAS-99 Quasar against Bugs
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  • @_itsmark
    @_itsmark 2 місяці тому +130

    quaser can also ONE SHOT kill a charger just aim for its head.

    • @tomduke1297
      @tomduke1297 2 місяці тому +9

      lol, thats what i thought. just like the EAT and the recoil less.... dude is a few patches behind with his gameknowledge i guess.

    • @DomsRoundtable
      @DomsRoundtable  2 місяці тому +26

      Ok so this gun is EVEN BETTER than I already thought it was?!? My aim must suck hahah I didn't get a one shot during my testing

    • @_itsmark
      @_itsmark 2 місяці тому

      its like a railgun on steroids

    • @ronaldsteinbrecher4432
      @ronaldsteinbrecher4432 2 місяці тому +2

      How didn't u try once 😂

    • @guiltylucas
      @guiltylucas 2 місяці тому

      I was like why is he shooting it in the leg? Charger and titan one shot in the head it's stupid good probably gonna get nerfed😂

  • @Corn0li0
    @Corn0li0 2 місяці тому +81

    you forgot the most important : quasar can destroy bot ships before landing, just aim for 1 of the 4 side propulsor !

    • @DomsRoundtable
      @DomsRoundtable  2 місяці тому +13

      OMG it just keeps getting better lol, I thought this but I tried a couple of times and it took 2 shots, I must have just fumbled the accuracy

    • @lunasagaming5801
      @lunasagaming5801 2 місяці тому +5

      @@DomsRoundtable you might as well just assume the quasar cannon can do everything the EAT and recoilless rifle can do

    • @luckystrikes03
      @luckystrikes03 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@lunasagaming5801My only dislikes are the charge time, the charge starting at zero if you briefly cancel it, and the fact that sucker is firing once it hits max charge whether you were ready in that moment or not. I love the well-balanced trade offs introduced between the EAT, RR, and Quasar. No matter which one you bring to any one engagement, half the time you'd have been better off taking an alternative AT option.

    • @timbusfahrer3172
      @timbusfahrer3172 2 місяці тому

      You can also safely destroy the new flying bug nests without having to go into range.

    • @lunasagaming5801
      @lunasagaming5801 2 місяці тому +1

      @@timbusfahrer3172 you can do that with pretty much any medium armor pen weapon actually
      most consistent ones I've found before the patch were autocannon and laser cannon

  • @Grubbyfoot
    @Grubbyfoot 2 місяці тому +5

    Worth noting that the quasar can one-shot a charger if you can bullseye it's face, but if you miss it counts as a body shot so you won't strip any armour. High risk-high reward tactic, and I love it.
    Also 2-3 shots will kill a shrieker nest from any distance.

  • @Agr3_Man
    @Agr3_Man 2 місяці тому +26

    I agree that the heavy machine gun definately needs more ammo . You can use it with any armor with the 30% recoil reduction while crouching and it's pretty much manageable. It has medium to high armor penetration except for chargers and bile titans . I love using it against bots it deletes them with ease even when shooting hulks i destroy them easily . Just use the right type of armor . The quesar cannon is the new GOAT .

    • @AC-hj9tv
      @AC-hj9tv 2 місяці тому +4

      Supply pack

    • @Agr3_Man
      @Agr3_Man 2 місяці тому +5

      @@AC-hj9tv but do i really need to reload every 3 seconds ? It has a very small mag at least make it a 100 bullets per mag not 75 . I know that the supply backpack makes it way better but increasing bullet count is much better .

    • @AC-hj9tv
      @AC-hj9tv 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Agr3_Man true. Needs to be able to dispense democracy for longer periods of time before reloads
      🌎 🦅 🚀

    • @Agr3_Man
      @Agr3_Man 2 місяці тому +2

      @@AC-hj9tv true fellow helldiver . Keep on spreading managed democracy.

    • @pr0faker
      @pr0faker 2 місяці тому +2

      chargers you can kill too, inner leg shots its ridiculously fast. but its hard to use and pull off. Its in need of some buffs, more ammo per mag, and 1 more mag at least. The reload is long but expected, damage vs medium armor is where it shines.

  • @WabbitCrouton
    @WabbitCrouton 2 місяці тому +16

    The LAS-99 Quasar cannon is pure fun against the drop ships: While it is hard to shoot down all the passengers, just aim and charge at one of the thrusters and watch the ship drop on the bots that were just released.

  • @GogTheCaveman
    @GogTheCaveman 2 місяці тому +6

    Short diatribe on the heavy MG.
    First of all, turn down the RPM. It has an adjustable RPM and the lower RPM has way more manageable recoil, and goes through the magazine slower.
    Second of all, the armor penetration is extremely good, it's just short of the absolute maximum possible. It can go through a scout strider faceplate which is the same level as Railgun in safe mode.
    Third thing, the damage is enormous, you can see at several points in the video it drops a berserker in under a second WITHOUT breaking the head, which is a JACKED amount of damage. It makes it so that you can go to the higher RPM setting and do 2-4 round bursts to kill warriors, devastators, stuff like that.

  • @generalrendar7290
    @generalrendar7290 2 місяці тому +5

    The problem with the HMG is perception. Treat it like a semiauto DMR, and it can get work done. Run supply pack and a primary that is ammo hungry. 500kg, Rail strike, impact/high explosive grenades and either the Redeemer or Senator pistols work well. I do love the quasar cannon. It is so much fun!

  • @carlmeader
    @carlmeader 2 місяці тому +3

    One upside about the HMG is that more divers are running the supply pack!

  • @thereddeath2534
    @thereddeath2534 2 місяці тому +1

    I do find The heavy machine gun useful cause it can rip through bot-striders from the front without needing to flank them. it has some sorta armour penetration and can come in clutch when there’s just hordes of striders and shield devastators advancing.

  • @CaptWhiskeyTango
    @CaptWhiskeyTango 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey Dom, I have two Quasar TIPs for everyone. (I hope my spelling is correct)
    TIP 1- Shoot chargers in the head, not the leg.
    Yes, there is a sweet spot, and it doesn't work if you're off; that's war. I will test more, but I believe I was hitting the crest of the head. I know it's armored, but shots directly down the throat didn't do it.
    I killed 27 chargers in 3 missions. 12 of those were one shots. The others were either poor aiming, sacrificing accuracy to save the team, or “OH SHIT, SHOOT.”
    TIP 2- Take out Brood Commander or Hive Guard sitting on sites of interest with the quasar before lighter engagements, followed quickly by killing littles with your primary.
    The BC and Guards rank/position in the bug hierarchy means they call in the highest amount of bug breaches.
    They are armored and tough. Once you aggro them, if you don't kill them-breach!
    The Quasar is perfect. Before you tried to take off the head or legs on BC or hit the sweet spot on a guard, but what have you done? Created chaos, spent too much time on the x, wasted ammo, got swarmed, and now you're screwed.

  • @sinofwrath698
    @sinofwrath698 2 місяці тому +5

    The laser cannon can one shot chargers, dropships, rank and file enemies, most medium enemies ( the heavy devastator and berserker can be weird), consistently two shot hulks or one shot if you hit the eye dead on. Bile can be two shot which is difficult so it’s more often a three or four shot. Tanks are two to three shots. Such a good weapon.

    • @DomsRoundtable
      @DomsRoundtable  2 місяці тому +1

      Literally THIS!!

    • @home.....
      @home..... 2 місяці тому +1

      not sure if correct, but it appeared to me that a hit to the ventilation point in the back of the tank is a onehit with quasar a few times

    • @sinofwrath698
      @sinofwrath698 2 місяці тому

      @@home..... might be true I haven’t gotten the chance to try that. The laser is very good for taking out spores and shrieker nests

    • @home.....
      @home..... 2 місяці тому

      @@sinofwrath698 considering the quasar the shreiker nerf

  • @patrickhuffman9632
    @patrickhuffman9632 2 місяці тому +9

    I am still.dropping into the Creek, join me fellow helldivers!
    Spill oil!
    Be stonger than steel!
    For Liberty!

    • @home.....
      @home..... 2 місяці тому +3

      Heart must kill steel

    • @lucienmoolman8017
      @lucienmoolman8017 2 місяці тому +3

      Creek can wait, put all your manpower on liberating Tibit so our forces aren't so split up. We already don't have as many Divers on the bot front as the bug front

  • @midkraft7279
    @midkraft7279 2 місяці тому +2

    quasar: shrieker nests seems too go down in 2 shots at insane distances, and if you line a clean headshot up on a charger it will die

  • @Clifford1423
    @Clifford1423 2 місяці тому +4

    At the time of this comment. The third chapter shares the name of the second chapter. LAS-99 against bugs even though the third chapter is against bots. Thank you for your informative content.

  • @phantomrunner1
    @phantomrunner1 2 місяці тому +6

    Wearing the recoil reducing armor and in full prone I still couldn't land 3 bullets in a row on the side of a barn.

    • @Soknik01
      @Soknik01 2 місяці тому

      Its a garbage weapon. All the devs needed to do was spend 5 minutes play testing their work and they would have known what a worthless weapon they'd made.

    • @zlkanglwrth2776
      @zlkanglwrth2776 2 місяці тому +1

      I can crouch and land every shot, so skill issue

  • @c.wubby.u861
    @c.wubby.u861 2 місяці тому +1

    TLDR: Try Switching the HMG RPM, 1200 RPM to delete close targets and 500 RPM for accuracy and distance.
    The HMG needs improvements definitely, but did ever change the RPM (hold the reload button) on the gun?
    It’s more accurate when it’s slow (500 rpm) and it’s fastest firing gun which kills things insanely quick at close range and hip firing (1200 rpm and but even more recoil).
    But either way it needs either more DMG or Armor Pen to accommodate the slow reload and worst recoil.

  • @ReaperEOD
    @ReaperEOD 2 місяці тому +9

    Only benefit I've seen so far on the HMG is that it can actually kill Hulks in the eye which I tested against a scorcher, effectively making it a close-ranged Anti-Material Rifle that can't be reloaded on the go. This gun does nothing different that others in the same niche don't do better with less downsides, sure anyone can make a weapon good, but this weapon does nothing new and in fact does the same things others do but with more downsides. I hope they can improve it to do at least something other weapons don't and make it worth the drawbacks.

    • @GhostlyGhille
      @GhostlyGhille 2 місяці тому

      Vs bots 1)Anti-M 2) quasar 3) Railgun

    • @ReaperEOD
      @ReaperEOD 2 місяці тому

      @@GhostlyGhille If you like living dangerously against bots try Grenade Launcher + Supply Pack, frequently get top kills with it and it's surprisingly versatile killing entire groups in seconds. Main weakness is hulks/tanks that I bring strata to deal with, but even tanks are a joke if you're above them and sneak the shots in to their weak spots.

    • @GhostlyGhille
      @GhostlyGhille 2 місяці тому

      @ReaperEOD my buddy runs sickle/GL I deal with hulks via Anti-M and run diligence to pick off the flare launchers. We can pretty easily dup 6-7-8's

  • @NicNewson
    @NicNewson 2 місяці тому

    Awesome Video 😮, and you provide a great detailed Gun analysis. 👍🏿👍🏿

  • @MegaRoflgames
    @MegaRoflgames 2 місяці тому +2

    Target the center of the head plate of the charger with the quasar.
    It one shots them.

  • @spencertaylor-mrliltay
    @spencertaylor-mrliltay Місяць тому

    With the Quasar cannon you don’t even need to hit the armor off the charge’s leg then shoot it with something else. If you hit a charger directly on the head it will blow the head clean off (I’ve found this weapon is always easier to aim in 1st person)!!!
    For Bile Titans, it’s not quite as crazy but if you can be accurate it does seem to take them down fast if you hit the head.

  • @AngryBoozer
    @AngryBoozer 2 місяці тому +3

    Wait, HMG doesn't have medium armour penetration? I've been wiping out clusters of striders by aiming at them dead centre.
    Also I find it requires to always adjust your rounds-per-minute depending on the type of engagement.
    Up close, max RPM, it melts everything.
    Further away, low RPM controlled bursts.
    I enjoyed how versatile it is, even though I won't be using it often because I'd rather have some kind of anti-heavy as my support weapon

    • @CrazyLikeUhFox
      @CrazyLikeUhFox 2 місяці тому +1

      It has medium armor pen, idk what he’s smoking. It also one shots marauders too, I don’t know why he says it takes two head shots to kill them, I’ve been one tapping them every time today.

    • @zlkanglwrth2776
      @zlkanglwrth2776 2 місяці тому +1

      This, it is a fun weapon and it makes you change rps to fit engagements, sure if you don't like it don't use it, but it's not terrible

  • @OG_Oddball
    @OG_Oddball 2 місяці тому +1

    I am a machine gun enthusiast, PAIR the MG206 with the ENGINEER perk for less recoil, yes larger mag and slightly more dmg for needed changes. But it shreds everything up to med armor and the chargers weak rear end, if u learn how to use this u can fire it no ads needed. Quasar is gonna be another crutch like the railgun while the heavy mg is forgotten in the list of unused stratagems because its not META

    • @AC-hj9tv
      @AC-hj9tv 2 місяці тому

      M206 is S tier
      Shit tier 😂

    • @CrazyLikeUhFox
      @CrazyLikeUhFox 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, and the inevitable Quadar nerf is going to be the railgun crybaby fiasco all over again.

  • @fyng.1582
    @fyng.1582 2 місяці тому

    Berserkers seem to have some kind of bizarre armor that acts like a damage cap per shot, given a weapon like the Quasar cannot 1-shot them, but a tiny amount of bullets from the Redeemer does. I'd love to see the actual code behind this at some point. For berserkers, quantity is always better than quality of shots.

  • @AC-hj9tv
    @AC-hj9tv 2 місяці тому +1

    Quasar cannon got them dance moves

  • @laserbeastman7447
    @laserbeastman7447 Місяць тому

    I find the best way to use the HMG is to set its fire rate to max and just do your best to burst fire. In around half a second, you should be able to get 4-5 shots on target before the recoil kicks your aim to the skybox.

  • @patrickhuffman9632
    @patrickhuffman9632 2 місяці тому +4

    SEE Founding Father of Individual Merrit reporting for duty!

  • @Yoder023
    @Yoder023 Місяць тому

    I like the HMG
    Slow the fire rate and WOW its reliable, fun, consistent, manageable recoil and only 1 drawback, it's reloading. It's a HUGE DRAWBACK tho

  • @yakemon
    @yakemon 2 місяці тому

    Just used it earlier today and yes the quasar is awesome

  • @kaollachan
    @kaollachan 2 місяці тому

    i think you forget ONE small drawback for the quasar, as it is an energy weapon it need to cooldown betwen shot, so in hot planete it take longer ( i think, need testing) to get a second shot ready.

  • @megalomegalord3216
    @megalomegalord3216 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video will buy the quaser

  • @SevensShow
    @SevensShow 2 місяці тому +1

    Quasar can one-shot chargers with a headshot.. no need to take off the leg armor.

  • @ynnuswatchingyou
    @ynnuswatchingyou 2 місяці тому +1

    It's not correct that the hmg can only penetrate the weakest armor. It penetrates hive guards, which have medium armor. It's similar (or equal?) to the regular machine gun in terms of ap but better than the stallwart, which has only light armor penetration.

  • @Mr_Big_Head
    @Mr_Big_Head 2 місяці тому +1

    HMG wrecks spewers, devastators, tanks, hulks, turrets. Arguably better than quasar if you use it for priority targets and are good with fire control

    • @zlkanglwrth2776
      @zlkanglwrth2776 2 місяці тому

      Yes I think people are not using it correctly, it's not intuitive I agree, this is nor a gun for many targets it is a priority target weapon and you change the rpms according to your needs

  • @CpActivity
    @CpActivity 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm pretty sure the Quasar has the same damage properties as the EAT/Recoilless, so everything those 2 can do, the Quasar can do too, just with a charge-up instead of instantly and with infinite ammo.
    I feel like its a good side-grade that performs very well and isnt too blatantly over the top like the Railgun was pre nerf

    • @pr0faker
      @pr0faker 2 місяці тому

      fun part is when you drop a second one, you can cycle both weapons to basically infinite hits back to back, unless you get swarmed.

  • @kirillokobecc6130
    @kirillokobecc6130 2 місяці тому

    @DomsRoundtable You need to play more with HMG. You can kill charger with same amount of time as with flamethrower. HMG shreds his butt. It operates like high DPS machine to get rid of hiveguards or at-st-s bots. You just need to play with firerate of it, not play at 750 always. 450 is good with recoil. 1200 is shreds with its DPS chargers butt and any hive guard in seconds. I think its good for 5-6 difficulty not higher.

  • @TheFatesBack
    @TheFatesBack 2 місяці тому

    The Cannon is definitely a great side grade for EATs, maybe not what Id take solo since it's inconsistent against bile spewers but in a 4 man Id definitely want one on the team

  • @TankHunter678
    @TankHunter678 2 місяці тому

    Quasar deals about as much damage as a EAT, and will one shot kill the same things. Your issue with bile titans was placement of the shot. Thankfully we have stun grenades which make that a non issue as those stun them for a good 5 seconds. It is basically an energy based recoilless without the backpack.

  • @katherinestives940
    @katherinestives940 2 місяці тому

    In regard to the Quasar Cannon, I have managed to one-shot Berserkers, though not consistently. In addition, I hit a devastator in side profile and did not kill him in one shot.

  • @thegunreaper3418
    @thegunreaper3418 2 місяці тому

    the heavy machine guns only redeeming quality is that it looks cool 😎😭

  • @ZeroFighter
    @ZeroFighter 2 місяці тому

    So, since it was mentioned at 12:59, indirectly asking for peoples' opinions on heavy machineguns (HMG) and armor penetration...
    In 2004, there was a prototype weapon developed to bring the power of the HMG the mobile infantryman, no longer needing to rely on fixing the weapon to a single spot to fire it. It was called the XM312 (X designation meaning 'experimental'). A derivative of the XM307 25mm autocannon which fired programmable airburst grenade rounds, the XM312 was an HMG, chambered in .50 Browning Machine Gun (BMG) It weighed about 19 or 20 kg, and was about 1 meter long. In 2005, it was test-fired, showing off a 260 RPM fire rate. While not fast, the .50 BMG rounds are longer than people's hands, and it takes a moment to eject all of that brass that is the casing, and then put a fresh round into battery.
    On the note of the ammunition, the .50 BMG is an armor-penetrating round, able to go through vehicle armor. One of its original purposes was to shoot down low-flying planes, and to chew through tank armor. Today, it's used in HMG's, but also in anti-materiel rifles (AMR), to still continue to shoot through armor. Comparable munitions to .50 BMG are 12.7×99mm NATO, 12.7×108mm Russian, 14.5×114mm Russian, and 20 mm. These will demolish armor.
    So, do I think that the Helldivers 2 MG-206 HMG should have armor penetration? Yes. Yes, I do.

    • @modernnerf1
      @modernnerf1 2 місяці тому

      I do agree and basing it off of that idea, the limited number of rounds makes sense. 50 BMG or 12.7 mm rounds are HEAVY when they are linked together in a belt (~26-30 lbs if memory is correct) so it would make the heavy machinegun basically impossible to shoulder. Obviously 75 rounds is no joke either in terms of weight but it is a justifiable explanation to the limited capacity

    • @ZeroFighter
      @ZeroFighter 2 місяці тому +1

      @@modernnerf1
      If I were to make a tweak to the MG 206, I'd- well, let's be real, I'd make tweaks, plural- start with upping the damage, and including an ammo backpack like with the Autocannon. Next, I'd work in some sort of co-op method of feeding the belts together or something to bypass the reload. This would start to make point defense a real event. Co-op player leaves the gunner, that belt is what the gunner has left to fire before being out of ammo. Next, I like the idea mentioned in the video of using armor bonuses to reduce recoil so as to make an HMG build, so I'd throw in some tweaks to the recoil, reducing it even more. I think that in a game like this, you should be able to look at someone's kit at a glance, and have an idea what they're going to do. You see an HMG and a recoil-compensating armor, you know they're going to want someone carrying the ammo pack, and where they play on going. The very last thing I'd change is how readily it shreds through armor. These bullets are designed to punch through vehicles, engine blocks, and reinforced buildings. Every bullet should be eviscerating armor, but to compensate, you should be all but forced to fire from prone, with your battle buddy. I would not touch the reload time when solo.

    • @modernnerf1
      @modernnerf1 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ZeroFighter 100% definitely needs to be treated as a crew served weapon. I get that the game favors mobility more but this should shred through most enemies short of a tank similar to what you said.
      That being said, would it be too mix to ask them to fix the hit marker for the gun? I had no clue if I was hitting the devastators I was aiming at

  • @honrethgaming8347
    @honrethgaming8347 2 місяці тому

    I've had my spear do the same wind wiggle.

  • @TormentedPenguin
    @TormentedPenguin 2 місяці тому

    The cannon has the same damage output as a rocket.. Hit the charger in the head.. The trade off it the charge up time vs no ammo.

  • @stilllife8
    @stilllife8 2 місяці тому

    According to a friend of mine, HMG can destroy bot mortar installations. I have not tested this myself.

  • @nathanielmalcolm6623
    @nathanielmalcolm6623 2 місяці тому

    Had the Quasar Cannon for 3 full operations on Helldive Difficulty on Malevelon Creek and *my GOD does it work beautifully against all the hulks & tanks.*
    I also love seeing myself & my friend rotating 180º on the spot when 1-2 dropships come in & taking them each down with 1 well-aimed shot like the gigachad Helldivers we are. 😂
    Now the Heavy LMG.......... *'wheezes & dies laughing like El Risitas.'* 🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️

  • @dnullify100
    @dnullify100 2 місяці тому

    It will 1-shot charger heads.
    2-shot bile titans to the face, as long as both shots to the face arent when its spewing.

  • @Josmic_1
    @Josmic_1 2 місяці тому

    I also thought it was just my aim with Berserkers. Was testing it last night and had the same issue

    • @CrazyLikeUhFox
      @CrazyLikeUhFox 2 місяці тому

      Berserkers just have insane HP is why. They have more HP than Hulks I think, just less armor.

  • @honzi5658
    @honzi5658 2 місяці тому

    The quasar is really nice. But I can’t give up the consistent pressure the arc thrower possesses, so the EAT is still my go to call in for big bads. I fucking love this game, and I haven’t had this much fun on a fresh game in probably 10 years. I like that they don’t want to have a meta, but I worry they’ll keep nerfing all the fun toys, instead of making all their other fantastic weapons more viable. It’s a PvE game … make everything good!!!

  • @RedPlanetPictures1
    @RedPlanetPictures1 2 місяці тому

    I've managed to one shot two bile titans with the quasar so far, you just need to hit their head at the exact right spot. It seems to be weaker on the side of the jaw than facing head-on.
    You're using the HMG all wrong though. It's meant to be a defensive dig-in weapon, good for defending objectives or evac. Burst firing in prone my friends and I had no issues with it, it tears through the little hordes with ease and even medium sized bugs like spewers and hive guards. It's absolutely a terrible choice to take solo but it's a great if you have a dedicate defensive player in your squad.

  • @cobra4975
    @cobra4975 2 місяці тому +1

    Quasar hits a little low if you look at pipper

  • @nathanbohannan7956
    @nathanbohannan7956 2 місяці тому +1

    I AM HIM A CLUTCHED A MISSION ON THE CREEK!!!

  • @supremememe549
    @supremememe549 2 місяці тому

    the only really good thing about the HMG is that it looks badass. too bad it doesn't make you FEEL badass :( the reload would be ok if they upped the ammo count to maybe 200 round with 4 spare mags. On the opposite end, maybe the recoil could be dampened, 100 round mag size, with heavier AP. That way it could feel balanced against heavy enemies, but overkill on smaller stuff. I dont know, just some ideas.

  • @patrickhuffman9632
    @patrickhuffman9632 2 місяці тому +2

    Lets go Cadets! Time to show those bots the futility of defying Managed Democracy!

  • @bosshier8820
    @bosshier8820 2 місяці тому

    Well for me testing a new gun is a stresstest aka how does it performe on level 7-9. And it performed really well against both fractions, having the option for a shild is just soooo good and the passive reload cooldown speeds up ganeplay a lot and makes you super flexible and strong!
    The hmg...well dont think its worth talking about it in all honesty, there are better options for lmgs already and it doesnt have a great niche to actually be viable as it is right now imo

  • @user-fi4om7vb8y
    @user-fi4om7vb8y 2 місяці тому +1

    I have yet to see how the HMG is better than the standard MG in ANY situation. Standard MG already has medium armor pen and kills everything the HMG does with far better ammo efficiency and almost half the reload time. Seriously questioning why this is even in the game.

    • @zlkanglwrth2776
      @zlkanglwrth2776 2 місяці тому

      It shreds devastating and scouts, it's OK vs bots, a single ammo block tops you and those are plenty on any map

  • @Marth70
    @Marth70 2 місяці тому

    gotta use the ammo pack with the heavy machine gun

  • @squidgiemctentacles5265
    @squidgiemctentacles5265 2 місяці тому

    People have been comparing the quasar Cannon to the railgun alot, but that isn't really accurate at all- it's closer to the EAT or the recoilless rifle. And it exists in a nice niche between them- it has infinite ammo, and it can cool down while you shoot your other weapons, but the charge up and cooldown time make the Missile launchers a solid competition depending on what you want.

    • @PetrusEksteen
      @PetrusEksteen 2 місяці тому

      My take: It's quicker to charge up the Quasar than it is to call in the EAT. Although if you use a machine gun or something as your primary then the EAT would still be useful of course

    • @squidgiemctentacles5265
      @squidgiemctentacles5265 2 місяці тому

      @PetrusEksteen That's fair and I definitely agree. However the charge time can be hard to work around during battles, I've definitely had a few times using it where I can't get it charged up because there are too many other things shooting at me. It also suffers on hot planets, but benefits on cold ones so that evens out.
      Overall I definitely think it's good, but I don't think it invalidates the Missile launchers at all

    • @PetrusEksteen
      @PetrusEksteen 2 місяці тому

      @@squidgiemctentacles5265 Agreed

  • @benjaminyang8476
    @benjaminyang8476 2 місяці тому

    I feel like the quasar cannon is fine as it is i just dont think it should one shot chargers. It shouldnt one shot just chargers i believe its should still 2 shot titans but it also should have to 2 shot chargers and can strip that leg armor. When you weigh the positives and negatives of the rocket launchers and the quasar theres theres no reason to bring the rockets. The buff for rockets literally just happened barely 2 weeks ago and even more reason not to pick the rockets is the fact that it can 2 shot titans without them opening their mouths where as you could one shot titans with the rocket but at an high risk but even so it takes maybe 4 or 5 rockets to the face if it isnt damaged by anything else to kill it whereas the quasar 2 shots a titan.
    Yes i know its got a long delay and the cooldown to shoot is longer than the recoilis, but look at this 1. you run and make your distance that you need like you would with any of your weapons thats something that is so easy for anyone to work around and 2. Its reload phase you just leave on your hack and run around clearing yourself with all your other tools until you can use it again like you would with the recoilis.
    People use the rockets because it was their favorite choice or that it was the coolest thing but because it was the best option to deal with chargers and tanks. Sure for a few people itll still be an esthtic choice but everyones gonna rather use the quasar because its negatives are not problems their just slight inconveniences that are very easy to work around. It being able to one shot chargers and makes taking rockets an even more detrimental to your team over all, the quasar takes away the identity of the rockets while also being more powerful than the rockets.
    Now im fine with it as it is if this is what the devs are going for then its fine im just saying that it definelty makes taking the rockets the worst choice of the options. just like how taking the liberator guard dog despite doing everything better than the scythe guard dog the ammo is so bad on the liberator version that it just cant be used especially since ammo packs dont refill its ammo.
    As much as you would like the liberator guard dog and other rockets not choosing the other option is just being more detrimental your team and yourself by having to worrk about ammo and reload times when you can just make distance as you would any other anti-tank weapon and do the job.
    Maybe things that are coming to the game will even the odds and all of that but for the majority of the player base which are randoms with the quasar as it is, the rockets are irrevlevant in terms of anti tank options even bringing a 500 eagle or the orbital rail cannon arent necessary anymore if 1 to 2 shots is all it takes now. But well see in the future the only 1 up the rockets have on the quasar is that they have almost no delay when firing but anyone would rwther have a titan 2 shot than a tiatn 4-5 shot. The quasar is not overpowered its just overpowered in its role over all the other options.

  • @sirvalentine8883
    @sirvalentine8883 2 місяці тому

    The Knight: First Time?

  • @SilentSpeak
    @SilentSpeak 2 місяці тому

    It feels like either Arrowhead was messing with us a little early before April 1st with this heavy machine gun or they didn't test it at all.
    It's a heavy machine gun is bullets should be more powerful than a light machine gun and the other one they should be able to at least penetrate medium armor it should have twice as much ammo in his clip and you should have a backpack with at least six extra clips especially for a super long reload animation.
    When you lay down to prone it's recoil should go down significantly to like 10 or 20% of what it is when you're standing up and you should still be able to do it the very least have a radical when you're aiming with it without being in first person view those are the minimum box that needs to be any kind of viable otherwise there's absolutely no point to run this thing instead of a liberator or like machine gun

  • @xDvemDeXandy
    @xDvemDeXandy 2 місяці тому

    I guess that it does not hk berzerkers in one hit because they have more health unlike other bots who tend to have a better armor who mitigate the damage.

  • @joshguyer4593
    @joshguyer4593 2 місяці тому

    Asking for a heartfelt 'please subscribe'... absolutely SIR!!!

  • @MK-hi4jy
    @MK-hi4jy 2 місяці тому

    for quasar chapters, you put bugs instead of bots :)

  • @Inflorescensse
    @Inflorescensse 2 місяці тому

    I have a hard time giving up autocannon. I miss too much.

  • @spencertaylor-mrliltay
    @spencertaylor-mrliltay Місяць тому

    When I saw these two new weapons I had two opposite reactions and both were proved right 😂. I instantly got excited by what I hoped the Quasar would do, sure enough it met and in many cases exceeded my expectations. It’s become my 1 garunteed strategem on every match, since it was added! The HMG… 😬 I’ve been a sucker for machine guns for decades in gaming but LMGs and especially HMGs I’ve sorta been conditioned to expect them to be usable at best, and laughable 💩 at worst. As I expected the MG 206 pretty much just seems like it was added as a joke. Even if you compare the MG to the LMG or Stalwart, I can’t see any reasons to use this over either of those two!

  • @zidanegoumni7297
    @zidanegoumni7297 2 місяці тому +1

    i have managed to kill a titan with 1 shot to the head somehow but from my experience its usually 2-3 hits to the head and its down

    • @DomsRoundtable
      @DomsRoundtable  2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah I've heard the same thing, that's awesome dude gg! I think I just need some more practice hitting that sweet spot lol

    • @georgetheodoratos1397
      @georgetheodoratos1397 2 місяці тому

      @@DomsRoundtable Its a playstation bug. If the host is on play station they get 1 shot if hit in the head just like they did with the railgun.

  • @LeminyFresh
    @LeminyFresh 2 місяці тому

    I think the 206 would be viable if it had a third person reticle. I can understand the shallow mag and the recoil but the mandatory FPS just knee caps it into the ground.

    • @luckystrikes03
      @luckystrikes03 2 місяці тому

      You don't already ADS 95% of the time? What is this horse sorcery?

    • @phaetex
      @phaetex 2 місяці тому

      ​@@luckystrikes03stallion swagger

  • @austinstoner6270
    @austinstoner6270 2 місяці тому

    I have not unlocked it yet so I don't know.But is the rail gun still good or decent at least

    • @Mr_Big_Head
      @Mr_Big_Head 2 місяці тому +1

      It’s still awesome. Take it off safe mode and it destroys all medium armor targets and still works decent versus chargers. Hit or miss with titans

    • @austinstoner6270
      @austinstoner6270 2 місяці тому

      @@Mr_Big_Head awesome!! I need to unlock it

  • @SushiParty
    @SushiParty 2 місяці тому

    Anyone else feel like AH is going to nerf the Quasar because of how good and popular it is so it's more inline with how bad the HMG is? With all the latest additions and changes to the game, the original railgun nerf seems even less justified now. Even pre railgun nerf, I would pick the Quasar over it now.

  • @BluePoo52
    @BluePoo52 2 місяці тому

    I can’t seem to consistently one-shot fabricators with the Quasar cannon. I’m aiming at the vents too. Anyone else?

  • @TheeTalkingTree
    @TheeTalkingTree 2 місяці тому

    I really dont see any reason to take the HMG over the Auto-Cannon especially for bots. To even attempt to make it viable you have to bring the support pack which then puts you in the same boat as the AC EXCEPT it costs an extra stratagem

  • @peteblackbourne514
    @peteblackbourne514 2 місяці тому

    maybe john wayne gungho point blank against bugs the HMG will shine??

  • @wannabe12g68
    @wannabe12g68 2 місяці тому +1

    I Was so excited for the HMG.
    But holy moly is it the absolute worst.

  • @haroldmajor8875
    @haroldmajor8875 2 місяці тому

    The Quazar can 2 shot bile titans in the face

  • @MamoMark
    @MamoMark 2 місяці тому

    The only thing that sucks about the quaser, is that it will get nerfed

  • @mghell34
    @mghell34 2 місяці тому +1

    Qasar 1shots charger in the face
    2 shots titans face

  • @luminaura3000
    @luminaura3000 2 місяці тому +1

    so can they un nerf the railgun now? lol

  • @breloopharos1919
    @breloopharos1919 2 місяці тому

    "This gun falls short on bile titans" oh so just throw a strategem at the only enemy is weak against. S-tier going by what people have been saying.

  • @zachrapier
    @zachrapier 2 місяці тому

    Someone should tell this guy if you just hit the charger in the head it dies…

  • @wah9312
    @wah9312 2 місяці тому +1

    I think the heavy MG is actually pretty good, but it definitely needs a couple buffs. I think buffing the magazine size from 75 to 100, reducing the recoil a bit, and then buffing the damage *slightly* would be perfect. It wouldn't take much to make it worth using, and I would definitely use it more.

    • @zlkanglwrth2776
      @zlkanglwrth2776 2 місяці тому

      I would add more dmg per bullet and slightly shorter reload.

  • @lochl2
    @lochl2 Місяць тому

    The Stalwart is 1000% better than the Heavy MG

  • @SeudXe
    @SeudXe 2 місяці тому

    I consistently 2 shot bile titans in the face on PC. It has the exact same damage profile as the EAT and Recoilless making this VERY strong. Heavy machine gun is definitely disappointing. The normal machine gun is just better.

  • @Mr_Big_Head
    @Mr_Big_Head 2 місяці тому

    Dude where have you been. EAT, recoiless and quasar one shot chargers.
    It’s just an alternative to EAT and Recoiless not particularly better. That 10sec interval between shots is brutal especially if you miss or don’t hit the weak point.
    Quasar is ok but not a game changer

  • @WhiteManOnCampus
    @WhiteManOnCampus 2 місяці тому

    While berserkers can bob and weave a lot, I've been able to one-shot them in the head with the autocannon. Either it's a specific limitation of the quasar, or your aim really is that bad.

  • @garrettharriman6333
    @garrettharriman6333 2 місяці тому

    Why are you blasting their leg, when the head is an instakill?

  • @katemc516
    @katemc516 2 місяці тому

    Does he not know chargers can be one shot in the head? 😅

  • @zlkanglwrth2776
    @zlkanglwrth2776 2 місяці тому

    12:50 you miss everything and say innacurate information like "it doest go through shields"

  • @SeekNDestroy-ll9zg
    @SeekNDestroy-ll9zg 2 місяці тому

    Wanna make the heavy LMG good? Put it on highest fire rate and use it as an SMG LOL

  • @Cryght_Vaskallion
    @Cryght_Vaskallion 2 місяці тому +2

    you can two shot bile titans with it. o.o and 1 shot hulks. your aim must be bad.

    • @DomsRoundtable
      @DomsRoundtable  2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah I do show off one shotting a couple of hulks, but my aim is for sure dogshite vs. bile titans lol

  • @Soknik01
    @Soknik01 2 місяці тому

    What makes this update amazing?

    • @rosvall216
      @rosvall216 2 місяці тому

      The hidden automaton fliers..

  • @alexlane9099
    @alexlane9099 2 місяці тому

    I haven't used the quasar cannon but I have seen othe helldivers ise it and the cooldown is too long along with the charged shot in my opinion. The HMG is what the Kar 5 Dominator should've been in terms of ammo. It needs wayore ammo. It's ineffective against everything. I don't have any problem with it's recoil it just doesn't kill. You 75 rounds and you might can get 5 kills with that. My experience it took me 125 rounds to kill 1 trivial enemy it has the same range as the redeemer with the redeemer will kill and kill faster. The mechanics of these weapons and mechanics of those game make them unusable. Most weapons in this game have too many negatives and no positives or have very little positives with current mechanics of the game they're unusable. Bots you can't have an error or you will die. Bugs they surround you and you can't kill them fast you will die. They're not fun to use. It just more frustration coming the "Defence" who I believe need to be in question for treason. To give helldivers weapons that are not effective against the on-going threats.

  • @Warlance001
    @Warlance001 2 місяці тому +1

    I think, leave recoil mostly untouched, just make prone more stable, lower the fire rate slower, give it the ability to penn charger armor, up the damage just enough so that it 1 shots the weakest enemies, and double the magazine size. It's a heavy machine gun, it should considerably slower than an LMG (still fast but more emphasis on each bullet ) and boom you've got a support weapon that's decent at dealing with swarms of low tier enemies, but excels at taking out groups of medium armored enemies and can wear down a charger.
    I still probably wouldn't use it over the laser canon, EAT/RR, or auto-cannon but it would have potential

  • @radarman3052
    @radarman3052 2 місяці тому

    Stun Grenade the charger if your aim sucks.

  • @rosvall216
    @rosvall216 2 місяці тому

    "..unlike the railgun..", dude, it must be at 90-95 charged to do anything productive, you can even bounce of off strider armour, what nonsense are you on about?!

  • @tomduke1297
    @tomduke1297 2 місяці тому +1

    i dont really get the spezial guns that do the exact same thing as my primary or even secondary. the use case for every gun class is pretty clear cut:
    secondary on singlefire to doubletap the small guys, the primary with medium armorpen for the medium guys and the spezial for anti-armor.
    unless you are running around at kindergarden difficulty you need anti armor and there is no secondary with medium armorpen.
    on the other hand, this game is just about fun, so i guess if its fun, it does it job perfectly. ;)

  • @Kybalion963
    @Kybalion963 2 місяці тому

    I know this is all in your opinion but you missed and got a few things wrong. The first about the heavy machine gun. You are using it wrong. This gun shreds all the bots and bugs including the chargers and bile titans. One bullet does kill the standard bots and bugs. I've used this gun for hours. Like I said I know this is your opinion but using words like abysmal doesn't help others to try it out. that's like me saying that you are just bad at playing the game and can only use the guns that require no skill. You should remember that they created the game and weapon to be based in reality and have an understanding of guns would help. Try researching heavy machine gun and watch some videos on how they perform and handle. The recoil starts off high and then it levels off but you have to be will to take your time just like in really life, lower the fire rate. The reload if you leave a bullet in is pretty quick. I'm not being optimistic either. I'm being realistic, you shouldn't be killing lone hunters with this gun. Otherwise I love your videos thank a bunch!!!!

  • @herp_derpingson
    @herp_derpingson 2 місяці тому

    Heavy MG is good against the beserkers

  • @standbymode7599
    @standbymode7599 2 місяці тому

    are you using AI art in your thumbnail?

  • @Raycsgo
    @Raycsgo 2 місяці тому +1

    first

  • @luminousparadox7529
    @luminousparadox7529 2 місяці тому

    This is propaganda!! The hmg definitely dose have medium pen. Striders on bots and hive guards stand no chance at any rmp. Just aim for the leg joint and bum on chargers.
    Do not believe this bug sympathiser. Completely undemocratic.
    If you run out of ammo take off your boot camp hat and start using burst fire and a supply pack ROOKIE!

  • @home.....
    @home..... 2 місяці тому

    not new tho

    • @DomsRoundtable
      @DomsRoundtable  2 місяці тому

      ?

    • @Zorbis1337
      @Zorbis1337 2 місяці тому

      It's new.

    • @home.....
      @home..... 2 місяці тому

      bro ur fine i was just trolling because the content appeared yesterday and you still had to do editing. quasar is great.@@DomsRoundtable