Marina Purkiss Schools Rightwinger And Caller On Immigration!
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
- Would you want someone who was forced off benefits to look after your elderly relative? That was the question commentator and podcaster Marina Purkiss asked in a discussion about immigration and social care.
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"Train our own"
Torys cut nurse bursary.
@@nathd1748 maybe if the uk paid better. Nurses can come out with 54k in debt on a 24k a year wage.
When i was forced to be in unemployment measures , i did as little as possible , also it cost money if you dont get union benefits.
People that have union benefit get money for food from union, others pay it from own pocket, meaning you buy small microwave pizzas that you eat cold.
This is the system in Finland , where conservative government have now found scapegoat for all problems, part times workers and single parents .
Like part times workers can change their job to full time ... conservative = person that is so entitled they dont understand basic economics .
@@nathd1748 so you want indentured servants
@mrbearbear83 this kind of thing is normal. When I joined a telecoms company doing installs they trained you up at their own expense, but if you terminate your contract within the first year, you are liable to pay for the training.
@@scottbuggy5634 within a year, not 20 years
I am pretty sure working in a Care Home for minimum wage and watching elderly people suffer because it's underfunded would not help anyone's mental health
Hi. Agree completely. If we add in the private care home company owners profiting from cheap labour while charging extortionate amounts of money for providing their care ,then it's a recipe for poor service with a focus on profit margins above quality of care. Get in staff who want to do the work,train them properly and provide a proper living wage aswell as support and equipment. We saw how poor the PPE was during Covid,which should have rang alarm bells that more investment is essential. Especially with an ageing population.
@@oliverbeard7912 amen brother
@@oliverbeard7912 it's not just that it's ,the fact that the taxpayers are the poor sods paying universal I to these workers because wages are so low
@@markbriten6999 Good point. Fat cats not rewarding staff and skimming too much off the top.
@@oliverbeard7912 During a few periods of severe illness, I spent time in several care homes, most of which were largely staffed by Eastern Europeans, who were on minimum or low wages, but were unfailingly kind and professional with me.
There was only one carer who was abrupt and obviously was there because she had to be - she was British, proving the point about only needing and wanting those to do the job to do them.
There has been no influx of UK carers, hospitality workers or crop pickers post Brexit. British workers are either not where they're needed, or don't want to do jobs which can be hard in unpleasant situations. Whilst low wages will put some off, even when a farmer offered £15/hr he got no takers. In another instance a farmer had only 2 out of several offered jobs actually turn up - and they lasted only a day or two.
"this generation is so lazy", every generation says, dating back over 100 years.
Despite the fact that the young have threes jobs and work long hours!
@@jamesarnold7253 i say 100 years because i have a picture i post on places like FB of it being written. No doubt its said older but i cant back that up (right now)
Probably since the beginning of time.
Generalisation is a lazy form of debate. The right wing press love it of course
Yeah, if only we all had the work ethic of Mike Parry
Here we go again. Attack lazy unemployed who don't answer back. If this lady can call a tv station in the day perhaps she should do her bit and become a carer rather than a talker.
She is a horrible woman and there are plenty like her!
So, last year I was holding down 3 jobs, one of which was care work.
Here are the issues:
1. Poor pay
2. Long hours and no breaks
3. No lunch break
4. You are expected to do double shifts (12 hours)
5. You have to use your own car and only receive a mileage payment for the journeys between houses.
6. No car no work
7. Work in your own locality is hard to get
8. Can be disressing ( finding people dead)
9. Can cause injury (old people are often heavy and equipment isnt always that good)
10 risk of being attacked by dementia patients
11. Risk of being abused by family members
Why make someone do this?
Plus, care companies won't take you if they think you are too qualified.
Yop. Wife crashed her car during storms last year while out working late covering for anoth shift. What did the company do to help? SFA.
Thank you for posting this, it's a very skilled job that isn't paid properly. I hope you survived!
The Tories should start being honest with people and tell them that if you want good services you have to pay higher taxes.
@@countfosco8535 they want the american system where you have tiny taxes and public services are paid for by charities as its known that the poorest people give the most to charity.
My mother who is 91 has just come home from hospital and she is now bedridden. The work that the carers who come to change and wash her do so with a smile and a sense of doing a proper job because a proper job is the only thing good enough in this case. They are payed nowhere near enough and their conditions have to be looked at. Thank what's left of the NHS we've got them. Oh, and to all brexiteer, Rwanda flight idiots, my mums carers are all African. Good for them
Working in health care does _not_ improve your mental health! The wages are shit and the work is physically, mentally and emotionally gruelling.
And those currently working in healthcare are taking sick days off due to their mental health suffering because of it is, you're not going to think straight and help patients properly
If you have the correct support, time off, and backing then it can be massively rewarding. A whole lot of jobs could be summed up by the last sentence.
I've been supporting adults with challenging behaviour the last 7 years. My mental health is fine, even after being illegally sacked for refusing a medical procedure and becoming homeless.
Lost 3 friends to drink and drugs in the last 5 years, fully funded by benefits. My best friend went from a sick note for a bad back 10 years ago to believing he was too disabled to do anything and dead at 41.
When the caller claims that there are too many people who don't want to work, Mike Parry was agreeing with her. He sits behind a microphone and mouths off his ignorant bile for a living, it's hardly an honest days work is it? There are people down the pub who'll do that for nothing, in fact it's hard to stop them.
He is proper scum, says the same old crud everytime he is on, everyone's on benefits and people are lazy. He doesn't work.
Parry really is awful !!
He really is a nasty piece of work isn't he he never shows any care or compassion for anybody except the rich let's hope in the end here he ends up in the home being careful by somebody who doesn't want to be there or worse still has got mental health problems who Snaps all of a sudden he deserves at he deserves the worst
Mike Parry, the very definition of failing upwards. He's been absolutely sh*t for years no matter what he's done, yet here he is employed as a recurring professional oaf. I don't know how Marina keeps it together continually having to school him.
The gammon on the right there has obviously never been anywhere near a care home, nor has the knowledge of what's involved in working at a care home, it's a physically and mentally draining job and I utterly applaud those who do it, it's not a case of sitting with Doris having tea & biscuits to keep her company, you're cleaning up their waste from both them and the floors & furniture, you're lifting them in and out of bed, chairs & baths, you're feeding them like they were a baby, you're having to chase after them for wandering around, and you're having to receive physical and verbal abuse due to their state of mental health, it's not an easy job, and it takes skill, dedication and, obviously, care to do the job, and frankly, most of us are incapable of it, because a lot of us were brought up with the mindset of "when people get old, throw them in a care home and wait 'til they pop their clogs!", who else is going to look after them?
Well said. And I would add that care work isn't the type of work you should give to any Tom, Dick or Harry. It requires mentally strong, emotionally aware, and kind empathetic people. Not some useless, dishonest pillock, who only took the job because right-wing nutcase MPs cut their benefits.
Some of us weren't bought up like that. We have just come out of the back of 17 years of caring, in our own home, for my partners elderly parents. You think that paid carers get no support. Try being an unpaid family member carer. You get to do all of the stuff a paid one does, while adding in that they are in your home so there is no escape, we had to fight for 3 years to get any respite care and then it was made almost unworkable. My partner had to give up work because you can only earn £120 a week if you are a carer. I was meant to get a carers assessment, according to legislation, within 2 years of starting - I never got one. So we not only have all the work, effort, emotion drain, etc. but we had to pay for the privilege!
2:25 this is the sort of thing that leads to abuse in care homes - there are people who are simply not suited to care work
Some people are not fit to be carers. But the DWP under the Tories just focuses on getting them in work , not if they will do a good job.
So true. I probably want too many crime documentaries; I learnt there's nothing more dangerous than a care-worker that doesn't care...
Mike Parry is the sort of guy who sits at the end of the bar telling you how to play the fruit machine and thinks the barstaff are his friends.
So we should have no borders and unlimited immigration?
The people complaining about foreign staff coming in to work in the care centre are the same people complaining about NHS staff striking for better pay and working conditions.
I work in social care, something which isn’t mentioned here is that a lot of the contracts offered are zero hour.
Do you have a concrete figure and source for that info?
Thanks in advance!
Marina has got more intelligence than all the tory party put together she should run for parliament !
You Are kidding me ,
Commie Barbie 😂
@@user-dt3iv5oc6f
Maybe you don't mind the country being run Brainless , heartless , soulless robots but the rest of us do !
Been a care worker for nearly 15 years. The last person I want on my team is a person who is forced to be there or lose their benefits. Care has some of the highest turn overs in the country. Why? Because the pay is terrible, there are next to no benefits, very little carer pipeline. Staffing is low, but because there is a minimum level of service care workers often get forced to do 60+ hour weeks because if they don't, the people they care for suffer. You receive training nonstop, but don't see pay rises because of it. If a person is forced to work on my team I can't trust them. Them working on my ward makes everyone's life harder. the staffs and the patients. It means my staff picking up their slack and it means less specialised care for the patients. It really frustrates me when people assume it's a job most people can do. It's not. it's a job that most people can't do.
You are so right! I was disabled and honest before my marriage. My English husband made my life worse. He didn’t care at all and lied to me before I immigrated. He made our home unsafe for me.
Well said.
Extremely correct. Spot on.
Very well said. 👏👏👏
Mike pariah parry’ the champion of the great thickish sheeple
@MartinSmith-qt3cc
Hey ease off Mike Parry… he's doing fantastic work promoting Veganism.
Better job than I ever could.
😉
Since Brexit, a vastly growing number of care workers are Nigerian, as Europeans don't want to, or just can't come to the UK anymore.
There is no such thing as free trade without caveats. Commonwealth countries demands work visas if we want a deal.. India is demanding thousands .
Yep, a big own goal for Brexit racists. Less white faces and more black faces. Hilarious.
It was always clear that all Brexit would do was to replace Polish and Romanian workers with Asians and Africans. Brexit alone was never going to affect total numbers of immigrants.
@@johnrussell3961 those coming here to work also need visas specific to the job they are coming to do
"Make it attractive"
Pay them well?
"Not like that"
Pizza parties
Let’s start by offering decent pay and condition. Care for old people is EXTREMELY demanding and difficult. Forcing people, like cattle into a slaughterhouse to do this hard work will be disastrous
Marina Purkiss, Jacob Rees Mogg's "kryptonite" She tore him up for toilet paper 🧻
I have carers for my son, three of them are Nigerian. They are absolutely fantastic, their work ethic and enthusiasm beats pretty much anyone else we have had.
This myth that they bring large families with them is nonsense aswell. One has her husband who also works in care, another left her family at home while she trains to be a nurse in this country.
My head nurse is a Nigerian woman and honestly I've never met another human with a better work ethic or a bigger heart. The amount of times she's personally saved me from breaking down and leaving care altogether over the years is unbelievable.
Well said Marina.
People like the caller don't think these things through.
"tHiS geNEraTiOn Is tO0 laZy to WorK a ProPpa hArD daY'S WOrk iN thEiR lIVeS."
If I had a pound for every time I heard something like that, I wouldn't have to do a proper hard day's work in my life.
I am an upaid carer. I care for my dad to basically stop my house being stolen and sold by the care sector, if I had to put him in care. I haven't had a day off in 14 years.
Bless you
Wish you all the best x
You are one of the invaluable millions of 'invisible' carers. No respite and difficult financial strains don't help. Everyone who needs care is entited to pip. If you already get this then you'll know it just about keeps you afloat. Oine support groups for carers are helpful and share information on getting whatever would be helpful,whether it's benefits,grants,equipment ,adaptations. I hope you get some support and respite. Best wishes for you and your dad❤
you are entitled to pip up until 65, then it all goes bananas, and you enter another realm of inequity.
We already have enough carers who don't care.
Love Marina Purkiss ❤
Stealing care workers from third world countries means that the standard of care people for in their home country is far lower than here.
I personally think it is wrong to take qualified staff from the third world as it creates even more hardships for them as there is hardly anyone left to do the Jobs these people do.
@@stephencollins9062 You mean like the NHS doctors going to Australia due to the neglect and poor pay in the NHS due to 14 years of Tory destruction!
@@stephencollins9062 The real world doesn't operate like your brain though.You made the bold assumption that later life care is a thing in Africa. The people that they get to come here are not leaving the sector in their home nation, they are just rocking up here and pretending to be an expert in whatever field is on offer at the time. The NHS gave out 70k visas last year for vacancies: 13k were taken up, the rest just turned up here and decided to get a part time job at macdonalds and claim benefits. Have a great evening x
Marina Purkiss Rocks ❤
Don't read right wing rags like Angela 🤦♀️
Amen 🙏
Brexiters wanted to end FOM, and they won: 811,000 EU nationals have left the UK (June 2020-June 2023) Now let's see ONS statistics "Long term immigration - non-EU nationals" before & after the end of the Brexit transition period (31 December 2020):
YE June 2018: 326,000. YE March 2019: 333,000.
YE June 2022: 848,000. YE June 2023: 968,000. (ONS "Mostly from India, Nigeria, China and Pakistan") Brexiters:😲😥😭😭
EU deliberately flooded western Europe with all the migrants from Africa and the middle east ,because of Brexit as punishment
Its what the brexers wanted. Sovrinteeeeeeee innit
Farage said that non Europeans have more in common with us??? Now we have the highest number of legal non European migration to the UK.😊
Ŵell done Marina, always responding with facts.
The caller is right, there should be investment in training in the care sector. Where she's wrong is that they need to be paid enough to live and not be forced into it as 'lazy benefit scroungers'.
Meanwhile….what do we do with the elderly who need care now?
Simple question, if its that easy, why are these jobs available then? We've seen from Brexit that industries like hospitality, care, and NHS are suffering as they can't get the workers. British dont want the jobs. Simple, really.
Also.... ever notice it's always older people with these types of solutions. Past the cut-off where they'd be forced to work for benefits, etc.
It absolutely wouldnt help anyone's mental health to be forced to do this.
I've known carers and mental health nurses in dementia wards who have quit due to stress.
Brilliant Challenge Bravo Marina ❤
Every British industry has long thought training is somebody'- anybody- else's responsibility.
I worked in the care sector most of my life. You cannot train someone to care you can only train someone that wants to care.
Cruella Braverman was saying this morning that the government should cut taxes. I would like somebody to ask her where we can fund these essential services with less money coming in.
Also , saying how to save the election. Come out the echr and we'll win? Does she mean then we can stop certain people voting, like the farce election in Russia. Make no mistake it's about taking all our rights away.
The Uk trained nurses are moving to Australia and elsewhere. Marina views are correct as always.
I worked in The Nhs since my teens, it's not everyone's cup of tea.
Worth noting also that the UK unemployment rate is close to lowest its been for 50 years. That includes people with long term health issues and caring responsibilities that preclude them from work. The idea that all unemployed people are lazy is ignorant and vile.
Unemployment figures have ALWAYS been massaged. Anyone believing current figures is gullible
@@keithparker1346right so let's jump straight to smearing them?
@@mixodorians12 smearing them?
As usual Marina spot on, these Rightwingers don't have a clue.
I'm a resident in a nursing home and what the carers have to do for a minimum wage is a disgrace, it's a very unpleasant job I won't go into to details but you can imagine, it a crazy world when a footballer can make £300,000 a week for playing football and these people working in care homes are on a pittance, these people that come from abroad are hard working, pleasant and lovely people the money they're paid seems a lot when they come from India, Romania and Nepal, the English people that do this job at the moment do this job out of love of helping people, it's certainly not for the money, and if the English are forced to do this it'll be just like Marina stated, they'll hate the job and won't put any effort in.
This is the exact reason why the military leaders do not want conscripts because they undermine the effectiveness of forces because they don't want to be servicemen. The same would apply care workers.
Problem in the first place is the scandalously 😮low pay and poor working conditions for carers in nursing homes. And for carers going into old people at home. Poverty wages. Training is an issue but the real prob is pay and conditions. ‘Women’s work’ as usual paid pennies. All privatised and run by agencies.
It was Thatcher who privatised it all.
Just want to say while the pay is terrible, care workers get endless training. Been one for 15 years. We are trained and retrained every year. This training comes with no pay rises though which is the problem. For instance this year I've had my first aid refresher, CPAP refresher, Makaton training, mental health trainings in borderline, schizophrenia and dementia. I've had my activities refresher (I'm an activities coordinator as well as senior care worker). I've had classroom training refresher (as I also work in the college attached to my care home). I've had a refresher on buccal midazolam emergency administration, as well as a full medication rounds refresher. I've also done refreshers on feeding and machine feeding. Oh, and a refresher on minor operations such as enemas. And I've had a refresher on physiotherapy for children and teens. We're not even half way through the year. So the amount of training isn't the problem, it's the lack of pay for how highly trained we are.
@@TheTwinn thanks for clarifying this. I will amend my post.
First people working in care should be paid properly....and treated with respect by managers
My late sister, an Irish born nurse working in 1960s NHS, was daily told by new patients, to
Go back to the Bog.
Her reply was always, if I did that ,
who will wipe your arse and change your nappy.
I remember when the tories cut the number of nursing places at uni back in 2010-11.
It's obvious that they were laying the foundatioms of ptting so much strain on the NHS that people would eventually fully support government divestment of the NHS and full privatisation.
You can train people to have skills, but they need to have the right attitude.
Well said marina your a legend spot on analysis as always max thanks
The UK is not producing enough children. Possible parents are put off having children by high rents and cost of living
It does through cycles . One generation has lots of kids , and those kids decide to have one and spoil it rotten,,.
That guy says we need to make it attractive and he doesn't say pay them more, he says because it might make them less depressed 🤦♂️
How people feel they can tell you what job to do and expect you to be grateful for poor pay and conditions will never cease to amaze me.
Especially as they would never!
The hypocrisy is mind blowing.
Who on earth want their vulnerable family members being cared for by people who don't want to be there?
FFS!
Training the unemployed doesn't solve the problem:
1. Training consumes time
2. Training requires the ability to be trained, not everyone can be trained
3. The unemployed are not spread over the country in the same way staff shortages are
🎯
They don't understand the situation AND they don't care.
"Make it attractive to do the work", genius! Why hasn't this been done? Oh, yeah, Tories!
My friend took on palientive care role visiting homes using her own car. She was on minimum wage, adminstrating medicine and they paid her a third of her petrol doing her rounds. And they wonder why there is a shortage.
Morning Max and all here.
Bottom line, there is not a huge problem with unemployment there is a huge problem with the quality of the jobs being offered, which include poor pay, long hours, and limited contract rights.
Wow that first women to start with. These people always say those things, whos being lazy who is this person that man you saw wearing tracksuit bottoms having puff outside your local weather spoons, sounds as sane as that man on question who followed an immigrant to the benifits office highly delusional
It's a mnetalityntheh have. They're hateful people with no care or compassion for others. That's why it's so easy for the right wing to rile them up! My mother is of the same ilk. Deep down they're jealous and envious and self centred know it all. She also voted brex💩
Thank God for Perkins, voice of intelligence in a sea of muppets. I don't work in a caring job just a call centre of 📱. Do you think I love it I do not. Do you think I put my whole heart into it I do not.🙄
Home care is responsible for many carers leaving the sector for emotional distress. Its a very emotional job. Watching my partner come home after a gruelling 12hr shift being a hone carer, come home exhausted and emotionally drained. Watching OAPs suffering with various medical issues or mental states, not yo mention the office staff who couldnt organise a pissup in a brewery. Its draining for those carers.
"Oh, we'll train our own..." - And you expect them to stick around... why? Someone who gets trained enough to act as a carer in the UK can also act as a carer in Sweden, Germany, France, where they'll be paid better than the "train our own" crowd will ever accept and won't have the casual viciousness of the Tories to deal with. They might even be able to afford decent housing and food.
i EMPLOYED CARERS, i WOULD NEVER TAKE ANYONE WHO WAS FORCED TO DO THE JOB...IT DOES NOT WORK!!!!
This kind of attitude is exactly why we end up seeing countless Panorama scandals in care homes. 😢 There is a massive gap in the care sector because for the level of responsibility you have and extreme stress of the job, you get paid not enough to live on for it and have to work up to 60 hours a week.
Also the caller's premise is just wrong.
The UK doesn't have a high amount of unemployed people, we have the lowest unemployment since the *1970s* . UK unemployment is down to structural at this point, the people who are out of work because they *can't* work with the current care and health support they can get.
Great analysis Max! My mother is 94 and the treatment she’s received from low-paid overseas workers at home and is hospital has been very good and caring - however, I think the forthcoming Labour Government needs to be very radical and undo the Tory wreckage of the elderly care system which should be totally run and funded by the state!
Under Starmer, you should expect Labour to bow down to the whims of Tories
Unfortunately I’m very saddened by Starmer and Labour’s red tories - perhaps expecting them to undo the Tory wreckage of elderly care is more in hope than actuality!
20 years ago you could work in childrens services and after a few years be on a decent wage and be part of a strong unit of skilled workers. Now all childtens homes are owned by private companies, staff are on minimum wage no matter how long they stay. Staff turnover is massive management turnover is massive, so many homes are running without a full staff team yet the companies are taking profit for their shareholders. If we dont pay people to have a career in care then we have to look abroad where our pay looks more appealing to workers. This is why NHS staff go and work abroad.
Good morning Max and all here ☕. I always appreciate someone pushing back extreme right ideas 😜. Bravo Marina 🎉
Far to many people are in the wrong places for this sort of thing to work.
This debate is ridiculous.. to be a nurse is 9000 plus a year to train and it takes 3 years, social workers are the same.. so you must have the money and commitment....now to train care staff is not as expensive but it's hard work, and injuries to your back is very likely, and so of the stuff you'll have to do for the money doesn't pay the bills.. whilst I understand its a caring profession and people need to want to be there, at the end you still have to live... so train more staff, you're likely to end up poorer, and demonised by the same man on that panel when people asked to be paid what they are worth...
We don't invest in people when we can get willing suckers from abroad
We spent 17 years supporting my partners elderly and infirm parents in our house. They had carers in twice a day for personal care. Without question the best people at the job were from outside of the UK. The best of the best were from Eastern and Northern Europe, Romania, Poland, etc. The care industry collapsed when a huge number them had to return home due to Brexit. We saw the whole care industry rise and fall, Brexit being the only cause of the fall. We saw caring carers have to leave an industry they actually wanted to be in, in tears because they cared. They were replaced by generally young girls who couldn't really get a job anywhere else, had no common sense, had clearly received no training (some didn't even understand the basics of person hygiene) and on more than one occasion turned up drunk... All after Brexit. Madness.
I agree, my daughter works as a carer, because she wants to, like nursing its more a calling than just a job for someone my daughter loves and genuinely cares for who she looks after that's the sort of person you need rather than forcing people and the care being poor - it is a stressful job from what I understand of it I couldn't do it
The old navy saying is: ‘one volunteer is worth ten pressed men’ also… in making a judgement - ‘there is the certainty which comes from ignorance and the uncertainty which comes from knowledge’.
Care is a vocation in life. As a 57 year old single man that hasn't had children having to care for my 87 year old stroke victim mother is extremely difficult but I have to do it. The first nappy I had to change was my mother's & that's because I couldn't leave my mother in a spoiled nappy for hours as the carer wouldn't be back for hours & I have to provide the nappies to as the authorities don't + more inc criminal acts . The care companies are a bunch of criminals that are paying foreign workers less than UK workers & are not giving them any training thay haven't even been told we're the shops are & have to do shopping & are treated like slaves.
You can't force someone to push into that work sector if they are not working for them. That's a waste of money!
As an ex carer I loved my job but it's a vocation. I certainly didn't do it for the pay. You can't force people it is not for everyone and as Marina said you need people who are committed to do the job. The reward is the difference you make in peoples lives.
The likes of Mike Parry, Carole Malone, Isobel Oakshott et al should be forced to do some of these low paid jobs for a year or two. They would soon change their view I think.
They would not last 5 minutes certainly not a 12 hour shift doing the work of two carers and no break.
Never get a weekend off, working conditions disgraceful and the pay way below the ability to live
Plus all the training required even when it is if lucky your day off, no rest. Not paid for that training.
Most important care work requires compassion, empathy, and great patience.
Can't learn those skills from books and theory.
Also to be fit and mentality well. Caring can destroy the latter re burn out.
What will happen without a doubt is brutality towards the patients and abuse horrific abuse.
Care is hard work and, currently, poorly paid. Where are all these unemployed natives? The stats do not show them.
They have never cared for anyone,
Should have asked the caller and pannelist would they work as a carer for the pittance they get in a foreign country with no family the idea is ridiculous
I doubt Angelia is unaware that the numbers of NHS medics that relocate to New Zealand, Australia etc
We reached a tipping point long ago, where staying and hoping the Goverment would make the job better was replaced by saying I’m off for a better life.,
I was long-term unemployed, and yes, my mental health was affected by it, but not because "oh, I don't have a job". I was depressed and suicidal because I was being dicked about by welfare, by job centres, and the work I wanted to do and was trained in and was good at wasn't aided by them. They don't care what job you do, they just want you off by any means and methods. That is belittling, that is depressing. I honestly felt like I was given a prison sentence because we're conditioned into believing that if you're NEET that you're at the whims of everyone else, and that you don't have your own life.
I'm self-employed now and doing much better, and I'm doing the work I was being steered away from, thank you, but my sympathies will always be with people on the dole; it's a full time job being unemployed.
I work in the care sector and I can tell you some of the carers from abroad aren't that great.
I can imagine the job they have been sold, come to the UK and help poor little old Jean get up in the morning, give her her breakfast and help her get dressed.
Then they get here and find racist John covered in shite and shouting at them.
The care sector isn't for everyone, the staff turnover at my workplace is huge.
The answer from right wingers is always that we need to train our own but they also want less young people in universities because “they can no longer discriminate via education.” They cannot have it both ways on everything: the population is either too small for the future or too large for housing? Suella dog whistles about “too many foreign born children” but poorer people are despised for having large families. Immigration is the easiest solution (because after two generations those families would consider themselves British anyway) but the racist vote is too easy to get.
They can’t have it both ways.
Unemployment is at its lowest since the 70's afaik.
Cheers max for your channel it's really informative. And funny. Keep em coming.
To train a nurse cost between £14-30k per year; on average the NSH spends 68k in total for NVQ 1. Meanwhile in those years you are educating the "new workforce" you have someone from abroad doing the job for 22k per year. So when your new recruit comes out fresh from school he/she will expect 25k per year on the lower end. Not without reason. Can you see any problem here? Then you decide to cut all from abroad to get your newly trained employees into the system. But they are new on the job! Mistakes occur. Most jobs in our life now require you to learn on the job. Better not learning by killing someone by a silly mistake, right? That is exactly at stake here! On the top of this: "No training can prepare you for this type of workload what the NHS is dealing with right now." His/her shift manager says. Your new employee is starting to feel the stress, to feel overwhelmed, oh and also will feel underpaid in no time. He/she is only 25 years old, got mortgage, got the child care, two car finances etc. Can please someone explain to him/her how these armchair smart white middleclass English people of age thought, yeah it is a really good idea to replace migration (a historically proven phenomena for humans for our common benefit) with nationalism (an ideology)? So to do the maths each one of your new nurse was costing on average £68k to the tax payer. 50 thousand nurses are needed right now! So it is £3.4B to get them trained and further cost to get them to jobs where needed (+ £400m). Then they work for 23k per year (£1.2B per year). In its 2019 manifesto the government pledged to increase the full-time equivalent number of nurses working in the NHS by 50,000 by March 2024. Can you still follow? Meanwhile a trained nurse from abroad was costing the tax payer 22k a year (in 2023). 50k of them would cost £1.1B-£1.3B per year with added 2024 costs. They also maintain a room or a flat, pay their rent on time, and spend over here on food. One portion of their spending stays in the UK. Could a government advert recruit 50k UK born people ready to take the nursing course? I also have doubts on that too ;)
Zero hours contracts, low wage, huge responsibility, and extremely personal roles with the attached emotional investment? Yep, that sounds great. Mike Parry is clueless.
This is a NHS function but was privatised as 'Care Home'! Nurse's would do geriatric care as part of their training but the Tories starting reducing the skills to the point were anybody can do it. If the 'Care Home' needs a qualified Nurse they pay nearly twice the amount that the NHS could pay. So training has dried up as Teaching Hospitals have been reduced and now you need a degree. The whole system is broken because of the need for profit and the Tories destroying the "from the cradle to the grave" Aneurin Bevan promised, which aimed to use money from taxes to provide support. They dumped the NHS role onto the Councils who are now going broke as the spend over 70% of their money on providing services that should be under the NHS.
You need to be able to work in this sector. Someone I loved, who was really empathic, ended up killing themselves cos the pain of others caused them. Our whole system of governing is so messed up
Speaking as a support worker, my current contract is for 44 hours per week. I either do three double shifts (15 hours) or two doubles and two singles (7.5). Counting extra shifts we are often begged tae do and training, we are often exhausted.
I am doing 60 hours this week. Oh, and we've just been informed that we cannae book any holidays this year. Basically they changed the system and only told us once all hoilday was already booked.
Max, you're right. I can also add that if those people bring their families, they're also bringing tax payers. Their children will grow up in the UK and enter into the workforce.
But it doesn't matter which way you look at it. The UK is screwed
My mother was nyrsed and cared for by forced labor. I had a painful conversation with my mother because of this. I know!
Its not about being lazy its all about very low wages.
Wow! “Get the unemployed to do those jobs”
It’s one of those ideas that work inside your head if the thought process ends there.
Why aren’t the unemployed already doing those jobs should be asked next. Then ask them. Don’t want those jobs and they don’t pay enough would come soon after that. The truth is there is always going to be a percentage of people that are unemployed waiting for jobs that match their specific skills. It is healthy to have a percentage of people who aren’t working. It’s also healthy to ensure they aren’t left destitute.
My grandsons mother trained to be a nurse back when Labour were in power,she was a teenage mum and she got quiet a good wage and childcare, when getting very good care I do not personally care where the carer comes from who would when seriously ill. Oh my grandsons mother? Yes, she worked her way up through the ranks and still works for an NHS hospital, not bad for a "lazy" English person eh? Oh my grandson is 16 now and is going to join the Royal Navy when he finishes school. I must say though I owe my life to a Jamaican nurse who cared fof me when I was seriously ill in hospital for 5 weeks❤
Young Europeans would come here to work in care homes and leave families at home in Europe and could easily keep in touch with them as they weren't that far away and could get home to visit. Where as immigrants coming from Africa and India are further away from home and would want to bring family members with them. Result of Brexit.
A lot of people are turned down for caring jobs because they don’t meet the standards required unfortunately.
There will always be around 5% of society that for some reason can't or won't work and we need to deal with that. I personally would much prefer a woman from Ghana looking after my mum than some 20 year old son of a drug addict.
The problem with care work is that you NEED a specific set of personality traits and be willing to do personal care. If people don't have that personality, there is no point in even trying to train them.
I've worked in schools for years and my big red line is personal care. I have all the other qualifications etc down, but I know I will never be right for that sort of role.
People cannot be treated like numbers, on both sides.