0:57 no matter how gloomy I am feeling, listening to you doing that intro, specially the I'll do it anyways, improves my mood, thank you so much Winter for keeping as I said before, the torch of SC2 bright and warm for me, I wholeheartedly appreciate your work, you do brighten my day mate : ).
I just got back into watching Pro SC2 games after like 10 years, and so far I'm loving all of it, but tbh watching the continuing lore of Zerg Queens from you has been the greatest of it all.
Too bad playing zerg isnt as fun - theres no cheeses and on the ladder protoss and terran are just cheesing in every way they can press buttons and are getting to win it sucks i think im done
@@jackcaffrey8493yea man. You're absolutely right. Took the words right of my mouth. Old StarCraft 2.....is actually better. Every terran unit is good vs Zerg. Can't shoot up. Have to have a lair and ovie speed to have a chance to scout. When terran can just scan. I hate to say it, because sc2 was always fairly balanced...but what you said 100%. I can't even hit diamond as Zerg anymore. Its like you have to be clearly better than your opponent to win as Zerg.
@@TysonDylan0you try Zerg. The skill cap is way higher. You can't turtle as Zerg. No anti air other than just corrupters who can only shoot air, and not ground lol. What other flying unit even does that?
That was some 5d chess by Hero in game 1, "forgetting" to have a unit in the wall so that the Drones could get inside instantly so that he could then wall between them and the Zerglings! It was genius!
Amphion is by far my favorite new map. It has a really interesting low ground 3rd high ground 4th on the east as well as the cheese available on the left
Ya, good catch! You can tell from the minimap. A battalion of red dots just... disappears, then you see the stalker carcass on camera a few seconds later lol.
Weird idea. Zerg rocks that drop on minerals after decaying. So you can have gold base that after 10 mins self destructs so its only available in the early game. I feel like it's been done before but I don't recall seeing it.
Watching Dark vs Classic reminded me of what Jim told Warfield during the WoL campaign: "You cannot plan for Zerg general. They will not fit into your tidy schedule." I wish more Zerg players would play like this style of being all over the other player. Dark cannot do it all the time but when he does, it sure looks like HotS cinematic.
it's a number 1 rated BY DARK. There was a thing by tournament organisers where they asked players who is the best one in their opinion. Everyone said Serral except for Dark, who picked, you guessed it, Dark.
I'm not a starcrafter but I had to comment because the video thumbnail was right next to another video about Vegeta who was also doing the same pose as that player 😂
There’s a live observer. That person’s movements are recorded in the replay. Sometimes winter takes direct control but usually leaves it with the observer
I have to say, the wow music is nice, though it always make me double check if I have WOW running and forgotten it. BUT! The WOTLK intro music is too epic to use as backround music, it hurts my retired little gamer-heart! :'(
Has anybody done any win/lose comparisons based on the ratio of workers that are killed in the first 5-10 minutes recently? It feels like if you kill 7-10 drones early on and play very aggressively is a solid strategy.
I'd love to see the numbers. but based off of your description, has this ever been a bad play? I mean, it sounds like something that has worked in every meta and patch ever
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The extra creep on team games is really annoying. Players are forced to take far away naturals if their teammate is a Zerg because their creep expands to the neighbors expo.
it looked like hero 3 dark 2? since the wins weren't updated so i'm confused as to why the last game went on first game dark leave. dark loses to carriers. dark loses to dts then it switches to classic on last game? i'm confused T_T
it was a best of 5 and Hero won quickly. Winter sometimes adds an "antispoiler game" at the end of a series, which prevents people from spoilering themselves the result by accidentaly checking remaining time on the video. (for example one player is at match-point and there are only 10 min left -> the player on matchpoints wins) Classic game was the antispoiler game added after the main seires (best of 5) concluded. I hope that clears things up.
I'll be honest mate you have been holding me hostage with your casts and I kept myself subscribed cuz you nag me in every video. Here is the thing tho, I wanna see some Stats games. You either make it happen me ol' china or I'll unsubscribe after 1254 likes on this comment I'll probably do it anyway. ❤
0:57 no matter how gloomy I am feeling, listening to you doing that intro, specially the I'll do it anyways, improves my mood, thank you so much Winter for keeping as I said before, the torch of SC2 bright and warm for me, I wholeheartedly appreciate your work, you do brighten my day mate : ).
I whish Gandalf had said "at the 5th day, at dawn, look to the 3 o'clock position"
Yeah, it's really a shame that he actually said "look to the base on the right"
I just got back into watching Pro SC2 games after like 10 years, and so far I'm loving all of it, but tbh watching the continuing lore of Zerg Queens from you has been the greatest of it all.
Too bad playing zerg isnt as fun - theres no cheeses and on the ladder protoss and terran are just cheesing in every way they can press buttons and are getting to win it sucks i think im done
Brenda! Lucielle? What are you doing Lucielle, get back there.
@@jackcaffrey8493Skill issue
@@jackcaffrey8493yea man. You're absolutely right. Took the words right of my mouth. Old StarCraft 2.....is actually better. Every terran unit is good vs Zerg. Can't shoot up. Have to have a lair and ovie speed to have a chance to scout. When terran can just scan. I hate to say it, because sc2 was always fairly balanced...but what you said 100%. I can't even hit diamond as Zerg anymore. Its like you have to be clearly better than your opponent to win as Zerg.
@@TysonDylan0you try Zerg. The skill cap is way higher. You can't turtle as Zerg. No anti air other than just corrupters who can only shoot air, and not ground lol. What other flying unit even does that?
He said "Finally Brenda!!! It's time for your revenge!!!" (16:50) I about fell out my chair! Great job man...been following you for over a decade.
Thanks for uploading this today. I appreciate it.
That last game was the very definition of THAT ESCALATED QUICKLY
I love it when the whole army running away from a zergling
Yeah lol and it survives xD
it's not about the zergling in the army, it's about the army in the zergling
Wow that last game made Ultras look good
I like that hydras seem a little more than just lurker eggs these days.
They are pretty good in zvt and zvz
36:10-45:45: Totally chill game.
45:45-End: NONSTOP CHAOTIC DESTRUCTION!
I need Gumiho to take us back to MechDonalds
Don't get gumiho cancelled
That was some 5d chess by Hero in game 1, "forgetting" to have a unit in the wall so that the Drones could get inside instantly so that he could then wall between them and the Zerglings! It was genius!
Amphion is by far my favorite new map. It has a really interesting low ground 3rd high ground 4th on the east as well as the cheese available on the left
Hero VS Dark always delivers on all fronts.
12:39 I think you've outdone yourself with this pun
It would be cool to see the players W-L ratios against each other at the intro phase of the game. You're already the best caster though
LOL he just assumes you would build a Shrine to Dark
I can't like more than once, so I'll comment for the Alg. Entertaining cast as always.
Did Hero just walk his stalkers to death at 16:45?
Ya, good catch! You can tell from the minimap. A battalion of red dots just... disappears, then you see the stalker carcass on camera a few seconds later lol.
These 2 gotta be high af playing against each other every time.
Honestly, two of these pro players in a high af friendly would be incredible to watch... Add Winter with his classic commentary and we're golden. xD
That last game was the perfect example of "Don't let them get 12 carriers!" mentioned earlier
Happy Easter, everyone! Let's Go! This Easter will be...just..a.. little...bit...better! Jimmy I want my candy.. put the basket down..
My god the last game was brutal
And i mean the LAST game.
Weird idea. Zerg rocks that drop on minerals after decaying. So you can have gold base that after 10 mins self destructs so its only available in the early game. I feel like it's been done before but I don't recall seeing it.
Watching Dark vs Classic reminded me of what Jim told Warfield during the WoL campaign: "You cannot plan for Zerg general. They will not fit into your tidy schedule." I wish more Zerg players would play like this style of being all over the other player. Dark cannot do it all the time but when he does, it sure looks like HotS cinematic.
Who knew ultras countered carriers XD
A sporchard. Ha ha ha!
Haven't played since WOL . Took way too much brainpower on my end. However, still enjoy watching!
so good thanks man so entertaining!
You are always entertaining winter, thank you so much.. praise be for the algorithm
These two always have great games, seeming to be both on a very even skill level and to be aggressive! better than watching a terran game anyday
"To the East, to the east"
When did this become a Diablo stream?
I don't think anyone is more dominant overall than Serral. There's no way he's not #1.
it's a number 1 rated BY DARK. There was a thing by tournament organisers where they asked players who is the best one in their opinion. Everyone said Serral except for Dark, who picked, you guessed it, Dark.
@@wuschu5563 or so the Germans would have us believe
nice bonus game!!! :D
I'm not a starcrafter but I had to comment because the video thumbnail was right next to another video about Vegeta who was also doing the same pose as that player 😂
Ah! 😆 Winter sc2! Thanks dude! ...there, made my comment.
22:30 "I care" LOL
The king has returned
Thank You
Om nom nom
Thank you :3
Love your cast
I just realized the commentator (who does a great job) is not controlling the screen, who is controlling it?
There’s a live observer. That person’s movements are recorded in the replay. Sometimes winter takes direct control but usually leaves it with the observer
Planting a Sporchard xD
Wow! Incredible maneuver from Dark, game 2 @8:00, to push for the choke point with an underwhelming army. (By the guy who just did THAT in game 1.)
What a spectacular few minutes 😮 That game just made my day. Thanks for posting this Winter!
Winter's alter ego - Brenda
game 2 was a fun watch
"Get off my creep!" @ 07:54
I have a parasocial relationship with Jimmy.
Dark is the opposite of lactose intolerance
Jimmy doesnt get enough credit for his hard work.
lmao that first game
Love it
Maybe Spore Crawlers can't be Transfused if they aren't burrowed?
I have to say, the wow music is nice, though it always make me double check if I have WOW running and forgotten it. BUT! The WOTLK intro music is too epic to use as backround music, it hurts my retired little gamer-heart! :'(
Please put the other player's name in the title or thumbnail. I already know it's Dark. It's always Dark. I need to know who is against Dark.
Has anybody done any win/lose comparisons based on the ratio of workers that are killed in the first 5-10 minutes recently? It feels like if you kill 7-10 drones early on and play very aggressively is a solid strategy.
I'd love to see the numbers. but based off of your description, has this ever been a bad play? I mean, it sounds like something that has worked in every meta and patch ever
Can you refrain from saying oh my God so much Winter? Love your content
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What zerg Need to do for win a game is crazy
it is good day when dark v hero!
118 likes on this comment... And I'll comment again... And I'll probably do it anyway
Gimme more likes than Dan and help me to rush him 😂
Ok winter 🥶❄️
Ok winter 🥶❄️ b😂
you the best
46:35 nexae (c) xD
Game 3 was some strong, creamy cheese
Lorkers are so OP, so much range and health
In other news, "a T3 units after 2 upgrades and reaching critical mass can't be killed easly by a T1 units"
Z lost 3 games and won 2 in this vid. Looks pretty balanced to me. Why tf you're still complaining?
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Hero is so good
talondark?
talandar?
protoss race swap soon
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The extra creep on team games is really annoying. Players are forced to take far away naturals if their teammate is a Zerg because their creep expands to the neighbors expo.
you can build on your teammates' creep. you def can in co-op games. have you tried this in team games?
@@kathorsees you cannot build on a teammate zergs creep unless you are also Zerg. That's only coop. Not player vs player.
@@meadows-GFC I see! Too bad, hope they fix this.
did Dark change clan or something? Why does it say TalonDark?
after the iem katowice i belive
Why hasnt Serral been in the last 20-30 videos? Does he not do all the competitive tourneys or did he just not make it far..
"Aristotle"
it looked like hero 3 dark 2?
since the wins weren't updated
so i'm confused as to why the last game went on
first game dark leave. dark loses to carriers. dark loses to dts
then it switches to classic on last game? i'm confused T_T
it was a best of 5 and Hero won quickly. Winter sometimes adds an "antispoiler game" at the end of a series, which prevents people from spoilering themselves the result by accidentaly checking remaining time on the video. (for example one player is at match-point and there are only 10 min left -> the player on matchpoints wins)
Classic game was the antispoiler game added after the main seires (best of 5) concluded. I hope that clears things up.
WINTER BRO! NEED MOAR SERRAL.
LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE
Your beautiful winter!
Ghost wall seems pretty bad for zerg
woo 😀
It's almost like homogenized maps make for homogenized strategies. Bring more goofy maps to tournaments!
tempest mouthfeel
"I care"
How do I pay dark
Hero outplaying Dark in that 2nd game like a pro butchering a silver leaguer. Doesn't matter since lurkers are OP. 😢
Hero won this 3-1, and you're still whining? Jeez, man
I hope this comment makes your day just a little bit better.
Hey winter been watching for about 8 months now and have been hitting that like button, could you please stop saying "Oh my God!" Can you say gosh
why the fuck does it matter? o_0
I'll be honest mate you have been holding me hostage with your casts and I kept myself subscribed cuz you nag me in every video. Here is the thing tho, I wanna see some Stats games.
You either make it happen me ol' china or I'll unsubscribe after 1254 likes on this comment I'll probably do it anyway.
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