Winter, please don't ever stop doing these vids, after a crap day of work, there is nothing better then some banter and pro SC II plays. Really appreciate you man !
My daily routine - come home from work, eat, shower, make a cup of coffee and watch the latest Winter SC2 video. And every single time my day gets a little bit better :)
Just adding my voice to the pile. Been subbed for 6 years now and I'm truly grateful you're still producing, these are great. Also keep on reminding me to like. I literally forget every. Single. Time. Thanks for making my day just a little bit better!
No other single single method has ever gotten me to click like so consistently as Winter consistently incrementing the like counter goal by 1 every video. His dedication to something so dumb is so funny to me. And the fact that the casts are so great help too ;)
I'll say it again - Do. Not. Let. Oliveira build momentum. He's like prime Inno, once he gets a strong position outside your bases and blunts your first counter attack, it's almost certain death. He's going to lean on you, force fights, and even with defenders' advantage his reinforcements will usually beat your reinforcements. Clinical TvZ victory for the former world champion.
@@benismann it wasn't close in 3 of his 4 wins. He walked across the map with ~5 tanks and 40+ Marines and just clubbed Rogue to death. Nothing fancy nothing complex, he turtles on 3 bases with Banshee harass and the first major attack with reinforcements killed Rogue outright. They were not close.
Crazy how such an old game can be so fun to watch. I think the top level where anything can happen really makes every game unique. And of coarse winter just making it funny as well as guiding you through what's going on for the less experienced watchers!!!!
1:04:20 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH brilliant commentary as always Winter, the Billy changeling moment was hilarious!! Thank you for keeping me a little bit more sane with each of your casts : ).
I am an Olivera fan, and after the first game I felt disheartened, since I was sure his opponent would win, based on the time remaining - there was not enough time for many marches. Little did I expect that Olivera would win the next game... and the next game... and the next game, and so on and so forth. At least I was right on one thing: the weren't any more games besides a straight win!
Rogue just got tilted in game 3. Having to rebuild an army from the bottom against ghosts, on a map that funnels lings so much probably just made it less of a headache to take an L and start again on a clean gameboard.
Yes! God please don't stop casting... I heard others... and my whole body cringes at the thought of you not commentating on these matches. You are the GOAT. So sorry not sorry Jimmy
Balance council needs to give adrenal glands a visual change If not to the zerglings themselves, then to the spawning pool It's such a large difference for a relatively cheap cost even displaying the fact it's done to the enemy would still be a net benefit for zerg
6:32: That was a costly choice of direction to fly in =0 Pretty sure Rogue could have gotten that 3rd Medi too. 8:08: Lol; the Tank just casually killing stationary Lings. 8:12: OUCH! 8:47: HOLY FUCK! That is disgusting. 9:03: Don't look away. This is the cost of war. o7 10:14: Wow, that was pretty much all Ling power taking out a large Bioball =o 10:36: Oof. Brutal Mine. I also don't think it was worth sticking around after killing the SCVs. Lost a lot of army just to kill a CC and some superfluous Depots. 11:50: Bit embarrassing how this army walked right over a burrowed Ling on their way in and Rogue still had no defense prepared. 12:02: Really missed out on sending some Lings to Hold in the SCV line. Tank would have done the work for him. 12:45: *Ghosts cloak* *Zerg turn on the SCVs* SCVs: "Typical" 14:12: How do Zergs make this mistake so often? Send some Lings with it. Send more Banes. Spread them out. Anything... 15:40: That was a long time to not cancel =/ 17:20: Losing a healthy Hatch to 2 Marauders hurts me as a viewer, Rogue. Make the pain stop! 😭 20:05: Mmmm. Ghost army dying to Lings feels so good 🤤 28:30: Well... that was over suddenly =o 33:12: Ouch. 34:20: Ouch again. 36:30: I love how exactly one Baneling made it to each group of Marines xD 37:35: Random Changeling check... You pass. 39:14: Now THAT's a blitzkrieg! 42:40: This is feeding. 46:15: Wow. I thought Rogue had this for sure. And, even after losing most of his army, he was up so much in Workers... Seems premature. 54:30: Rogue just fought that battle down 30 Army supply (65 vs 96), and actually close the gap by 20 supply. And it still wasn't enough =0 1:03:10: 3rd time is definitely not the charm... Dunno how he thought that Ling counter was gonna work. Even if it killed every SCV (even 15 would be optimistic), he'd still lose. Definitely a strong push.
The way rogue destroyed was different. Many fans hated him for that since when he won he effectively clowned on his opponents and it looked like they were beginners. It is completely different than serral who just wins in quite unspectacular fashion, which is his trademark of course.
46:50 Its not early, Rogue is dead, he has no minerals and he is more than 50 army supply down. Rouge is not going to be able to defend against an army that is more than twice as big as his. He may have more workers but Oliveria is not going to let him recover.
we waited for rouge to come back. Sure Byun and the tosses retunring was a big deal. But rogue ist not just some player. He is in my opinion one of the 5 big ones. Serral, Raynor, Dark, Maru and Rogue.
@@pondracek I didnt decide who wins maps now did I. Yes 4 Z and one T. Hero was good for a while but it was brief compared to the others. Stats just coming back now. Clem and Maxpax have no LAN-Results. So yeah, nooone else comes close. Tell me who i forgot. I understand if you say Rouge was gone too long and his peak before wasnt high enough to give him more cred then Stats and Hero. And i understand if you say that Raynor is barely playing so ignor him.
I would make a serious T argument for Byun and Clem. It's obvious that we haven't yet seen Clem's final form and it's already at the point where his m&m&m is uncounterable. Byun because he's a more consistent threat on any given day than Dark. On the P side, I'd have to go with Hero and MaxPax. I can understand if you want to wait a couple more years for MaxPax.
Ye I agree. But Byun hasn't won a big tornament since he returned. Clem and Maxpax no offline results. I guess Clem has one win in ESL 23 Winter. Yeah maybe i should count him as well i guess. Maybe you right. Hero has done just as much as Dark since he came back. So lets expand: Serral, Maru, Raynor, Rogue, Dark, Clem and Hero (and stats if he wins the gsl)
Zeglings have a tendency to morph into banelings, Hellbats are light, slow, melee-ish range and cost 2 marines a piece, on top of using your factory time (which could be making tanks or widow mines instead). On offense hellbats can be eaten alive by queens or hydras, with no lings needed, unlike marines that are the most versitile unit in the game. I hope that clears things up, but i can go on.
Hellbats can be a mineral sink when you're going for a heavy mech build, but the economy doesn't work out for just throwing them into your bio composition, and unlike marinrs there's no amount of micro that can help mitigate the baneling threat. Which is a shame because there is nothing more satisfying than seeing a field of roasting Zergling carcasses under those blue flames.
I dont even care how first game ends, this is... so weird. Terrans falls behind for absolutely no reason against no spellcasters and zerglings... what kind of magic is that?
Because you usually have to deal with things like Vipers, Infestors, and possibly Broodlords and/or Ultras. There might not be enough snipes to go around.
Lol bruh bc nothing value adds like replying to comments from randos 😂 get a grip man replying to online comments is just broadcasting ones own time management failure (source: my life)
Entertaining the masses _and_ keeping them informed at the same time are mandatory skills needed for a profressional commentator. Winter makes the replays feel so great to watch, what are you smoking
Dude... that was with zero casters.That was intentional. Really sad how ghosts ruin the game... just massing 1 caster is fine i guess for terran skill levels.
@@jacoballey21 What do you mean? Serral is 8:7 versus Rogue in total, defeated him in their last 3 matches and won against Rogue two times 3:0, which is the cleanest score achieved by any of the two when they faced.
@@jacoballey21 We can talk about it.. it was a 4:2. And I never claimed that Rogue never won against Serral... I wrote that their overall score is 8:7 and that Serral has more achievements and better results versus top Koreans. And I agree... it will be fun to watch once both are back in shape and it is a shame that Serral has to leave at the exact moment Rogue returns. But perhaps, this is also a good thing, as Rogue still needs to find his old form after being away which wouldn't be a good comparison of their skill if they faced atm.
Seeing how much the previous best zerg in the world is struggling since they've hard nerfed zerg is really sad. For years now they've been trying to nerf Serral by nerfing zerg and it hasn't achieved anything except bringing 4k mmr terran and protoss players up to 4.2k mmr. Incredible.
THIS is the guy yall saying is better than Serral? While i cant speak of the past...this is my first time watching him play - hes nowhere near Serral's level. Currently at least. I will go back and see if I can find past matches with him but as he is now, please stop disrespecting Serral like that.
Winter, please don't ever stop doing these vids, after a crap day of work, there is nothing better then some banter and pro SC II plays. Really appreciate you man !
As long as you continue to like and subscribe, by the power of Jimmy, we'll be ok! 😂
And maybe, just maybe, our crappy work days will become yet again, a-little-bit-better.
And then he stops watching two weeks later
I just, agree.
@@JRe63 read it how winter says it
7:11 "Has the Terran slowed down or did the Zerg get Hive?" Magnificent play on words hahaha
37:37 - Billy?! Yep, looks like our guns are working ... I rolled over and died 😀laughing
My daily routine - come home from work, eat, shower, make a cup of coffee and watch the latest Winter SC2 video. And every single time my day gets a little bit better :)
I think it's really amazing how consistent winter is - every video has his soul in it, I love it
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Just adding my voice to the pile. Been subbed for 6 years now and I'm truly grateful you're still producing, these are great. Also keep on reminding me to like. I literally forget every. Single. Time. Thanks for making my day just a little bit better!
You forgot, rogue has even embarrassed serral by speedrunning him in the finals. I forgot the tournament, but that was mind blowing series.
It might have been this one: 4:1 in 16 min ua-cam.com/video/_aZWUpnphjI/v-deo.html
It was 4 - 1 in 16 min at TSL8 Bo7 2 years ago. For some reason my comments about this keep getting deleted...
@@Cephalopopo cuz u-2be algo hates truth
Brenda and the HOA still going strong, I love it 😂
No other single single method has ever gotten me to click like so consistently as Winter consistently incrementing the like counter goal by 1 every video.
His dedication to something so dumb is so funny to me. And the fact that the casts are so great help too ;)
I had to go back to 2021 to find the games where Rogue embarrassed Maru. Those were nasty...
17:36 an SCV casually walks past 8 Lurkers
No war crimes here! This is civilized warfare!
I'll say it again - Do. Not. Let. Oliveira build momentum.
He's like prime Inno, once he gets a strong position outside your bases and blunts your first counter attack, it's almost certain death. He's going to lean on you, force fights, and even with defenders' advantage his reinforcements will usually beat your reinforcements.
Clinical TvZ victory for the former world champion.
It still was a lot closer than it should've been in most of the games considering zerg didnt bother with spellcasters
@@benismann it wasn't close in 3 of his 4 wins. He walked across the map with ~5 tanks and 40+ Marines and just clubbed Rogue to death.
Nothing fancy nothing complex, he turtles on 3 bases with Banshee harass and the first major attack with reinforcements killed Rogue outright.
They were not close.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons "a lot closer than it should've been" =/= "close". It was a lot closer coz i would expect him to just roll over and die :з
@@benismann well, we didn't get to casters anyway in most of the games and ouch, that's harsh :D
Olivera feels so much like Innovation. Rogue knew exactly what was coming but died anyway.
Crazy how such an old game can be so fun to watch. I think the top level where anything can happen really makes every game unique. And of coarse winter just making it funny as well as guiding you through what's going on for the less experienced watchers!!!!
1:04:20 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH brilliant commentary as always Winter, the Billy changeling moment was hilarious!! Thank you for keeping me a little bit more sane with each of your casts : ).
Thank You
Om nom nom
Welcome back Rogue
rogue: "what is this roach you speak of? " also rogue: "k maybe later"
I am an Olivera fan, and after the first game I felt disheartened, since I was sure his opponent would win, based on the time remaining - there was not enough time for many marches. Little did I expect that Olivera would win the next game... and the next game... and the next game, and so on and so forth.
At least I was right on one thing: the weren't any more games besides a straight win!
Aside from Banelings, Rogue just playing Brood War units in Game 1.
Banes were not Brood War units. Thank god for that.
@@shadowpriest2574 That's why I said "aside from Banelings". ;p
And technically Overseers and the different Queens, but it's not fun to overanalyze.
@@jaeusa160 Hmm, it seems i missed that when I read.
What a strange gg on the second game! A comeback would have been very plausible.
Now Serral is about to start his military service, so he won’t play many tourneys.
Rogue just got tilted in game 3. Having to rebuild an army from the bottom against ghosts, on a map that funnels lings so much probably just made it less of a headache to take an L and start again on a clean gameboard.
"Get off my creep!" INSTANT REPLAY @ 52:48
Iam rly happy to See rogue is Back!
Yes! God please don't stop casting... I heard others... and my whole body cringes at the thought of you not commentating on these matches. You are the GOAT. So sorry not sorry Jimmy
Balance council needs to give adrenal glands a visual change
If not to the zerglings themselves, then to the spawning pool
It's such a large difference for a relatively cheap cost even displaying the fact it's done to the enemy would still be a net benefit for zerg
Olivera is TERRAN through them.... How did winter miss his own pun?! @28:57
I love how Olivera plays. Best terran in my heart.
6:32: That was a costly choice of direction to fly in =0 Pretty sure Rogue could have gotten that 3rd Medi too.
8:08: Lol; the Tank just casually killing stationary Lings. 8:12: OUCH!
8:47: HOLY FUCK! That is disgusting.
9:03: Don't look away. This is the cost of war. o7
10:14: Wow, that was pretty much all Ling power taking out a large Bioball =o
10:36: Oof. Brutal Mine. I also don't think it was worth sticking around after killing the SCVs. Lost a lot of army just to kill a CC and some superfluous Depots.
11:50: Bit embarrassing how this army walked right over a burrowed Ling on their way in and Rogue still had no defense prepared.
12:02: Really missed out on sending some Lings to Hold in the SCV line. Tank would have done the work for him.
12:45: *Ghosts cloak* *Zerg turn on the SCVs* SCVs: "Typical"
14:12: How do Zergs make this mistake so often? Send some Lings with it. Send more Banes. Spread them out. Anything...
15:40: That was a long time to not cancel =/
17:20: Losing a healthy Hatch to 2 Marauders hurts me as a viewer, Rogue. Make the pain stop! 😭
20:05: Mmmm. Ghost army dying to Lings feels so good 🤤
28:30: Well... that was over suddenly =o
33:12: Ouch. 34:20: Ouch again.
36:30: I love how exactly one Baneling made it to each group of Marines xD
37:35: Random Changeling check... You pass.
39:14: Now THAT's a blitzkrieg!
42:40: This is feeding.
46:15: Wow. I thought Rogue had this for sure. And, even after losing most of his army, he was up so much in Workers... Seems premature.
54:30: Rogue just fought that battle down 30 Army supply (65 vs 96), and actually close the gap by 20 supply. And it still wasn't enough =0
1:03:10: 3rd time is definitely not the charm... Dunno how he thought that Ling counter was gonna work. Even if it killed every SCV (even 15 would be optimistic), he'd still lose.
Definitely a strong push.
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"Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth" - Mike Tyson
4 - o serral to Maru, that’s not embarrassing? lol 😂3:10
The way rogue destroyed was different. Many fans hated him for that since when he won he effectively clowned on his opponents and it looked like they were beginners. It is completely different than serral who just wins in quite unspectacular fashion, which is his trademark of course.
does winter have his playlist written down somewhere accessible? I have heard some of these pieces countless times now and dont know their names.
this is just terran ost i think
@@benismann some of it is, but a lot of it isnt even Starcraft,
@@Nutellafuerst on streams it's different, ye, but in videos im pretty sure it's mostly terran ost
46:50 Its not early, Rogue is dead, he has no minerals and he is more than 50 army supply down. Rouge is not going to be able to defend against an army that is more than twice as big as his. He may have more workers but Oliveria is not going to let him recover.
Serral is going on a military service? Wot?
Finland has mandatory military service, if I recall (given a certain, uhm, *conspicuous* neighbour of theirs)
But don't concern about it too much because Fin's military service is really short like 6 months
They got him setup like The Last Starfighter with the drone program up there.
@@rexekim3397 But Finns probably shoot guns since they were in diapers
Press F to pay respects for Sir Richard, the first of his name. Though he is gone, he is never forgotten!
What a solid 8 barracks build.
i like rogue's playstyle a lot. he doesnt rely on infestors to bail him out
YAS! Starcraft daddy is back! WINTER4EVER
Show me the money 😂 I love my morning starcraft
Jokes on us, there's just a mirror on the wall that winter looks at when he yells at jimmy...
If only! I can't wait till that lazy bastard finally gets the firing he's deserved for YEARS!
The player cards you have made crack me up. Haas Y/N, LOL
Last time those 2 fought each other Oliveira was Time
Big Jiggy is thanking his lucky starcrafts
This commentary is too entertaining. ❤
we waited for rouge to come back. Sure Byun and the tosses retunring was a big deal. But rogue ist not just some player. He is in my opinion one of the 5 big ones. Serral, Raynor, Dark, Maru and Rogue.
4 Z and 1 T?
@@pondracek I didnt decide who wins maps now did I. Yes 4 Z and one T. Hero was good for a while but it was brief compared to the others. Stats just coming back now. Clem and Maxpax have no LAN-Results. So yeah, nooone else comes close. Tell me who i forgot. I understand if you say Rouge was gone too long and his peak before wasnt high enough to give him more cred then Stats and Hero. And i understand if you say that Raynor is barely playing so ignor him.
I would make a serious T argument for Byun and Clem.
It's obvious that we haven't yet seen Clem's final form and it's already at the point where his m&m&m is uncounterable.
Byun because he's a more consistent threat on any given day than Dark.
On the P side, I'd have to go with Hero and MaxPax. I can understand if you want to wait a couple more years for MaxPax.
Ye I agree. But
Byun hasn't won a big tornament since he returned. Clem and Maxpax no offline results. I guess Clem has one win in ESL 23 Winter. Yeah maybe i should count him as well i guess.
Maybe you right. Hero has done just as much as Dark since he came back. So lets expand:
Serral, Maru, Raynor, Rogue, Dark, Clem and Hero (and stats if he wins the gsl)
sao very interesting fights. Different styles
I would hate being one of oliverias scvs.
rogue literally came back after there was no zerg in GSL semi finals lmao
Welcome back Rouge !!! 🎉🎉🎉
Winter, i was curiouse to know, if you think that Clem will get to G S L any soon ?
So much friendly fire XD, Does terran have a Helldivers skin mod?
What is a siege tank but a mortar sentry that can be relocated?
Drinking Mate and watching TvZ, best morning activity
ROGUE IS BACK!!!
I wonder what Cure is doing today
In order to win against so much zerglings you need firebats :)
44:45 no im not agree that it’s a potential loss game mistake
Everyone has a plan til they get punched in the mouth. Isn't that a Mike Tyson quote?
Rogue!!!! He's back
Feel like Oliveira's stats should be higher
I love seeing Oliveria win.
Hey bros drop a like for Jimmy, he deserves it :=)
Rogue is back ❤
You love to see it
He got destroyed by nightmares protoss.
Rogue is back? Greatest SC2 player of all time, maybe 2nd to Maru.
Serral, the name you are looking for is Serral. But I agree... considerung numbers and achievements Maru and Rogue come closest to Serral.
Why does no one use hellbats against mass zerglings?
Zeglings have a tendency to morph into banelings, Hellbats are light, slow, melee-ish range and cost 2 marines a piece, on top of using your factory time (which could be making tanks or widow mines instead). On offense hellbats can be eaten alive by queens or hydras, with no lings needed, unlike marines that are the most versitile unit in the game.
I hope that clears things up, but i can go on.
Hellbats can be a mineral sink when you're going for a heavy mech build, but the economy doesn't work out for just throwing them into your bio composition, and unlike marinrs there's no amount of micro that can help mitigate the baneling threat.
Which is a shame because there is nothing more satisfying than seeing a field of roasting Zergling carcasses under those blue flames.
Not gonna lie I was wondering where Rogue was I thought he fell off or something.
I wonder why Oliveira decided to pick such an odd name
Rather, it's is an inspired name coming from the brazilian mma fighter himself
Beforehand, he used to be TIME
Ghosts. What a fun and fair unit.
Ghosts didn't decide this series, 8 rax marine tank did
is jimmy a real person?
Bruh at work,i go to sleep on your vids🤣ye i get payed to sleep😅
Img the Korean champ back
I dont even care how first game ends, this is... so weird. Terrans falls behind for absolutely no reason against no spellcasters and zerglings... what kind of magic is that?
1290 ish... Count me as 1.😂🎉
I always wondered why not use ghost to kill dection and stay clocked. Its a win.
Because you usually have to deal with things like Vipers, Infestors, and possibly Broodlords and/or Ultras. There might not be enough snipes to go around.
Because damage interrupts snipes. If Zerg positions overseers correctly, you can't get to them with walking into the rest of the Zerg army.
Clem did that against Serral in one of their series.
Not sure what you're talking about, pros do this often.
cool :)
where are you from WinterStarcraft?
i honestly can not place your accent... unless you're exaggerating it to some degree
Idk where you're from...
Why do so many scrub Zergs forget adrenal glands. Seems to happen every other game. Zergs need to cry less and focus on their micro skills.
Korea 😮
So many comments from fans and zero replies from “the most professional” sc2 commentator
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Lol bruh bc nothing value adds like replying to comments from randos 😂 get a grip man replying to online comments is just broadcasting ones own time management failure (source: my life)
Entertaining the masses _and_ keeping them informed at the same time are mandatory skills needed for a profressional commentator.
Winter makes the replays feel so great to watch, what are you smoking
Dont worry terran got nerfed.
Dude... that was with zero casters.That was intentional.
Really sad how ghosts ruin the game... just massing 1 caster is fine i guess for terran skill levels.
what a slug fest
Serral is "quaking in his boots" right now. The true king is back
We will see once both come back from military.
So far, Serral has better statistics if we consider only tournaments and records versus top Koreans.
@@marcelbenner993 just don't watch any head to heads of Serral vs Rogue
@@jacoballey21
What do you mean? Serral is 8:7 versus Rogue in total, defeated him in their last 3 matches and won against Rogue two times 3:0, which is the cleanest score achieved by any of the two when they faced.
@@marcelbenner993 let's just not talk about when rogue beat serral in 16 minutes in a bo7. either way they are fun to watch against each other
@@jacoballey21
We can talk about it.. it was a 4:2. And I never claimed that Rogue never won against Serral... I wrote that their overall score is 8:7 and that Serral has more achievements and better results versus top Koreans.
And I agree... it will be fun to watch once both are back in shape and it is a shame that Serral has to leave at the exact moment Rogue returns.
But perhaps, this is also a good thing, as Rogue still needs to find his old form after being away which wouldn't be a good comparison of their skill if they faced atm.
Terran win with a same strategy 3 time and rogne can't do enything
That speaks more about Rouge than about balance...
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Seeing how much the previous best zerg in the world is struggling since they've hard nerfed zerg is really sad. For years now they've been trying to nerf Serral by nerfing zerg and it hasn't achieved anything except bringing 4k mmr terran and protoss players up to 4.2k mmr. Incredible.
terran so op right now. banelings sucks ass, he should have had infestors, can't win without infestors nowadays
Neh, Zerg is still as OP as ever. The damn balance council keep dancing around the issue with zerg...
i give u like bcoz u keep begging for like everytime
i hate terran
THIS is the guy yall saying is better than Serral? While i cant speak of the past...this is my first time watching him play - hes nowhere near Serral's level. Currently at least. I will go back and see if I can find past matches with him but as he is now, please stop disrespecting Serral like that.
terrible Terran maps, dynasty are you kidding? free gold as a third??????
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