Illymation Doesn't Deserve This
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
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its sad to see another doxxing after the other doxxing
Yeah i can sorta feel bad for her tbh, but overall it's not a great idea to cooyright strike a video that is about criticism
Watch Dillon or whatever her friend/simp's name was try to say that TBYS is to blame for this. That guy hates TBYS with a passion for some odd reason.
It's cause he's convinced tbys is some super conservative right winger all because he is anti woke it's so cringe
I can’t blame him bro makes the most boring slop anti sjw content
@@Ermington321 yeah bro landscapes are so boring compared to shitty gameplay
think you need to go see therapy
@@Marchbaby_isherecause he is a conservative right winger.
Doxxing should be illegal ! Its insane that its currently not...
It is
If I'm not mistaken it sort of is? it's kind of a grey area
Illy was 100% in the wrong but she definitely didn’t deserve to be doxxed. At the very least I feel like she definitely had to have learned something from all of this💀
From what I know she has learned nothing
At the same time she was trying to destroy a man’s livelihood
Not saying it was wright
Learn what??
@@josie3303Not to flag people who criticize you?
illy wasn't in the right, but she didn't deserve to be doxxed.
How does constructive criticism lead to doxxing 💀💀💀
That's the internet
@@Cookie82772 even sociopaths have to spend their time somewhere.
I’m conflicted. First Thinkbeforeyousleep cut out the part where she says that if you have anything that makes it where you can’t eat certain food then eat whatever you want. Strike one. Two she the good or bad food part where all the foods is the same she means that if you eat carrots that doesn’t mean you’re a good person and if you eat chocolate you’re bad. Third thinkbeforeyousle is shaming her.
Then they doxxed her. I’m not saying what Illymation did is right, but thinkbeforeyousleep have out false information. Guys this just shows you need to do your own research before you start accusing people.
He didn't spread false info he expressed an opinion as to why he didn't like her video and he gave solid proof and reasoning as to why. TBYS wasn't saying eating carrots make you a good person and eating chocolate makes you bad.. he's criticizing her for making a basic comparison to those 2 foods cause they aren't the same one is healthy and one isn't.
I'm sorry dude but if you gonna keep thinking that what he did is cristism. Then I'm sorry to say this but you need a dictionary on the meaning.
Also if you think that, then actually research it
@aaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh giving someone advice on fashion is criticism and isnt him demanding change or anything. All he did was compliment her looks and said that some of her outfits could be the cause of some of her insecurities. If you think it's more than that, then I'm inclined to believe you're an idiot.
if you actually watch illy’s video in context she really didn’t say anything wrong
I've watched it many times now it's not that good of a message
Okay then
bro imagine doxxing someone you would littrely be a horrible person like sssniperwolf
This guy followers did doxxed people before her, I stopped watching him due to this, his fan base filled with crazy men
I keep getting notifications for people making comments and for some reason, they just aren't showing up. I don't know if youtube is getting rid of them or if it's just glitching, but I just wanted to let everyone know.
It's not just you, half of my comments won't show up for no apparent reason across various channels and community posts and I laughed earlier cause I typed out a reply to someone, hit send, and my message appears *above* what I was replying to, as if my message was older.
When I wake up in the morning and the first thing I see is this 💀
I loved illy but I feel like she should’ve watched the videos before commenting on it before taking someone’s word, she had no reason to talk about a subject she doesn’t know about. She doesn’t deserved to be doxxed. (Love the video btw!!)
I leave a like on this video.
bout to like this video :)
I got mango milk tea today 🥭🧋
Welp, put them in the cheese grater
This is definitely not my crew and suppose my comment will get buried or deleted, but suppose having a conversation is in order. I am from "the other side", if you do not want to humor my comment I ask to read at least the last paragraph, it has what I think happened and some serious questions.
Now, seriously, a guy that literally makes videos tethering to chronically online anti-wokes, does his "job" and make a video literally exaggerating Illimation's "pro-fatness agenda" to create hate. She reacts to the anti-wokes attacking her, by encouraging people to flag his video properly, she receives even more attacks and gets doxxed.
Then y'all only think "she should have learned" and attack unproprotionally, even before the doxxing, for making a video saying it's ok to be fat, because "teaching to be fat is enough justification" and later for "falsely flagging genuine criticism". Genuine question: what's wrong with y'all? What's up with that trigger-happy finger and stone-will to "lawlify" the littlest BS justification for literal smear-campaigning with intent to destroy a life? Is she The Devil? What exactly is the thing she is supposed to learn? To not raise her voice against Sleepo's law?
You have either
1. Completely missed the point
Or
2. Never watched TBYS video
Not once in his video does he encourage hate all he did was criticize her video and point out with facts why he thinks the message is bad it's called criticism and you people need to realize that and grow tf up. Illy isn't the devil and doesn't deserve to be doxxed, but to be this stupid to just blame everything on tbys and other youtubers for voicing their opinions is really sad dude. The false flagging wasn't justified it was wrong tbys didn't violate any of the rules hence why the video is still up to this day and her rallying her fans to attack and false flag his video without watching it is wrong even given the fact that she never watched it either. The man who did watch the video has been spreading a massive campaign against tbys spreading multiple lies to paint him as this evil villian and my guess is you're one of those people who blindly believes him because tbys titles are mean.. grow tf up dude do your research and realize that Illy was wrong for what she did.
@@Marchbaby_ishere Was expecting my comment to get filtered out/deleted, did it pass? I have no idea what goes on with comments. Figure mine disappeared and posted an updated copy. Thanks for replying, wasn't expecting it. Anyways, I did actually watch TBYS video before, and I think Illymation did watch it too.
Disliked his video on the spot because of the content. Not because he is "simply validly criticising Illymation and I protec queen", but because his point was to obviously grift (I think you should look up the word 'grift'. It's important to understand better what happens on the internet).
I do think I missed the point, because I am not part of this "crew", so I do not have the same beliefs/dogmas that would make it make sense. TBYS is wrong on the delivery and amount of crime-ness inferred, literally made a mini-smear-campaign against her and body-positive people as if they were literally telling kids to fa*ten up as it's ok, focused a lot on implying they are ridiculous, and this is enough justification for us to "teach them a lesson". TBYS's video is NOT constructive criticism, it's weirder than that.
Sincerely, I understand you are protective of him as anyone else of this group. Any finger pointed his way will look like a 12 gauge to you. But he does engage in producing media with bad stuff disguised as good stuff. More specifically, grifting, plausible-deniability and anti-w*kism. His video has it all, so I think it should be flagged, and the flagging is not false.
@ViniSocramSaint brother I learned about tbys from this situation I don't care to defend him and I'm very open to multiple opinions. You thinking his video was weird is just downright wrong. Not one time in his video does he grift he uses real evidence and research to show why he has a different take from the message she's spreading, which I very much agree with. TBYS isn't saying her message is to fatten little kids up, which goes to show how blinded by this one-sided echo chamber you've lumped yourself up in. You're painting it like he's some malicious evil man who's attempting to ruin her life when all he did is say I don't like this video and here's why... why are you digging this deep into it when all the video is, is constructive criticism??? Also sharing your opinion on wokeness shouldn't be flagged. Everyone should be allowed an opinion you're literally supporting censorship which is wrong in so many ways.. just because someone is anti-woke doesn't mean they are some malicious grifter you do realize that there's more than just woke sjws in the world, right? You do realize that some people are actually against that stuff, right? And you do realize people actually don't agree with extreme leftist right?
@@Marchbaby_ishere That's a very interesting point of view, very different from mine. But gotta clarify I am not arguing, just asking for opinions while showing mine. Wanted to know how the people around here think, after that reply I got satisfied and I will be gone.
Anyways, I do not agree with UNFAIR censorship, but I agree ONLY TRUE THINGS should be taught to the public. I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but if the opinion is wrong or is a grift, the person should not be allowed to spread it, because it's wrong and leads us to do wrong. Very different from "supporting censorship", "illegalizing opinions on woke", "being extremist leftist", and what not, right?
By the way, anti-wokes are very often the personification of maliciousness. They literally lie to convince the public to lynch a political undesirable, like a woman that talks, someone that recognizes social problems (a woke) or a woman that says overwheight people do not deserve so much hate (this case). Pretending they just have different opinions and everyone is entitled to their own opinions is their primary modus operandi of grift, and a textbook example of plausible deniability. TBYS is one of them anti-woke grifters, and I assume you are on this crew too, even if you just learned TBYS exists.
Now gotta say, someone showing a research paper do not immediately make the argument what the person claims it is. Very often grifters do that, show a paper, and lay people believes them validated, seeing the paper dangling in front of their noses and not knowing any better. Very often grifters show only a paragraph or a line of a random article that has their confirmation bias written in it, and do not show the rest of the paper, nor even the Conclusion part, where the actual meaning of the entire paper is. And often, the paper is shown while the grifter makes a very weak link between what they say and the general vibe of the paper, as if it is sound logic. Lay people get caught all the time and think the grifter is a God of Logic. The grifter's intention is not to clarify the argument, it's to pretend to be right. We should pay attention to the argument's context and read the paper to tell if the person is telling the truth or if the paper even justify the argument. Very often it does not.
In short, if the person has a history of grifting, do not believe the research paper makes them true, read it first, then acknowledge where the argument is going and compare paper to argument. If there is no logically inductive connection, the argument is wrong, even if both talk of the same thing.
In this case, TBYS showed a paper about obesity and it's risks then argued that's proof Illymation is doing evil with her pro-unhealthiness agenda. Yes, there are risks for having obesity level 1 to 3, but risks to being overwheight (not an obesitiy level) are much smaller and those risks are actually possibilities that increase in probability the more weight a person has, meaning you can live your whole life having none of them, some of them, almost all of them or all of it, either way. None of this induce the conclusion that Illymation has such agenda, nor that body-positiveness is dangerous, since neither are about convincing people to k*ll themselves over woke ideologies that erase the risks of obesity, as TBYS implies. He is dangling the paper on your nose.
Now, about "my accusations", I assure you when I say TBYS engage in grifting, plausible-deniability and anti-w*kism this is not just my opinion. I am not simply implying he is a bad person by using fuzzwords, I am describing his "evilness", how exactly he is bad, in real life. Though I guess you are free to think those 3 concepts are non-issues at all and whoever engage in it are completely OK, freedom of thought and all... I think you should know listening to him will not allow you to learn how real life works, it will just dig you deeper in the anti-woke crew.
That's it. See ya
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People are responsible for their followers. The Tobys followers doxxed another person before, people should be held accountable if their followers doxxed people due to their videos they made
No they shouldn't plain and simple.. unless TBYS said directly to doxx her, then I'd understand calling him out for it, but TBYS should not be held accountable for some random persons bad actions. Stop getting mad at the person who didn't doxx Illy get mad at the person who did. The fact that you people would rather send hate to TBYS and blame him for everything shows how idiotic you people are.
Bruh, it's just like what you said in the video, they have the right to criticize what they said, but that the same time it's also their responsibility to how where would it let up.
What you said is like as if, you own a discord server and something bad happen, but instead of helpping, you let it happen because you said that you're not responsible for that incident happening
@aaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh this has nothing to do with criticism this is an action that some random person did and for some reason TBYS is the one being blamed when he literally did nothing wrong. Pls stop spamming my comments dude you're giving me brain rot...
@@Marchbaby_ishere bruh, all we're doing is actually telling the truth. You're the one basically starting the fire by defending someone with a toxic fan base, known to let his fan base harassed other creator, being disrespectful by beliefing this lier by using his video to use it as something you disagree with. And not actually seeing the main issue.
You're literally turning an blind eye on it.
This is like the dream drama, but now he's not responsible for what he's fan is doing.
Watch think before you dox. Also insulting a person's looks, and fashion is not cristism. Please TBYS lied about the video. None of it are true. Also bruh. Can you stop making your video look and sound like you copied from them, this is the exact same as all the others
Haven't watched think before you dox in full will watch today but ive only heard bad things about it so im not sure itll be that good. the first few minutes of the video is just wrong so i doubt its a good video plus noah samsen is not a very reliable source of information.
@@Marchbaby_ishere Bruh. Watch it. It debunks it all.
@aaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh again I've watched the beginning and I can already see flaws in the video. Noah Samsen isn't a reliable source for information and from the beginning we can already tell he made this out of clear bias
@@Marchbaby_ishere bruh. It's more like you're bias
@aaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh I'm not.. I'm gonna be watching the full thing on stream but again Noah has a pretty bad history with getting a lot of facts wrong I'm sure he maybe makes a few good points but I'm sure overall he probably didn't provide anything of value given the fact the beginning already shows this is a super stinker
Illy is based and this happened because of the kind of audience you and TBYS have accumulated.
Womp womp
@@Marchbaby_ishere maturity
@@BubblegumStudiosOfficial blaming the doxxing on the creators who are just criticizing her and making us guilty for virtually no reason is not mature in the slightest bud
@@Marchbaby_ishere not taking accountability is immature tho bro, if you make someone out to be some evil witch then there will be people who go down where those ideas inevitably end up.
@BubblegumStudiosOfficial again all tbys did was criticize her not once did he paint her as an evil witch. Illy painted herself as evil when she decided to false flag his video without even watching it and attempted to get her fans to do the same. She doesn't deserve to be doxxed, but to blame it on the creators who are criticizing her bad actions is genuinely the dumbest take I've ever heard given the fact that none of us encouraged doxxing.
i subbed
While Illy did act in the wrong, she still should not have been doxxed. It doesn't fix anything and instead makes the situation 1000x worse.