The thing about trolls is no matter how often they say “it’s satire! I’m trolling!” There are ALWAYS people who their words pander to. And that’s exactly the problem
Exactly this, there’s a reason that actual trolling (an example is the “sharks are smooth” guy, which if you haven’t seen I highly recommend that shit is funny as hell) isn’t self proclaimed “trolling”, because it requires no defense, anytime someone feels the need to go “I’m just trolling/it’s just satire”, it’s because they have an agenda and want an easy out
same with andrew tate...i so often hear people say that theres no way he actaully stands behind the things he says and he does it just for the money...liek the ignorance to say this??? even IF he only did it for the money (which doesnt make it better tbh) he actively fed into the Incel movement and gender war...hes contributing to brainwashing young boys and infuences people who DO hate women...
It takes a very special kind of person to troll about such terrible things happening in the world. It’s low-key evil that they don’t take truly awful stuff seriously.
I hate when people say "don't feed the trolls". No fuck the trolls. call them out otherwise gullible people on the internet are going to buy what they are saying.
Sigh... U ppl don't understand what evil is atp. Trolls want u to get angry n sad towards them. They feed of that emotion itself witch is why ppl tell u to ignore or agree with them otherwise they won't stop.
He says that it would be like not going to your favourite cafe. One; Starbucks being your favourite cafe is sad, and two; that kinda happened where I live. there was a doughnut and coffee place that was so popular, there was always a massive queue, it was the place to go on the weekend or if you had a day off. Then it was found out the owners were not good people, like possible nazi connections bad. They were dropped instantly, like shut within a day, and people just moved on because people win over coffee, and doughnuts.
Not only is he the nair guy he said he wants to roleplay being on Epstein island and said Taylor Swift when asked “Taylor swift or blm” and has done more…
People like him make my brain hurt 😵💫😒 Like you can just stop talking now, thanks. The ignorance is just mind boggling and there's nothing funny about his nonsense at all. Just wow.
thank you for calling this out because so many people were defending him with the same "no ethical consumption under capitalism!!" shit and it's corny. that phrase doesn't give you an excuse to buy unethical products if you have the money TO CHOOSE SOMETHING ELSE!! its like people who buy $1000 shein hauls and then cry about how "well no ethical consumption under capitalism!!" despite the fact they're rich spoiled influencers and literally a part of the problem. you don't need starbucks to survive and iced coffee is so accessible these days. can we just get rid of all annoying twink influencers at this point LMFAOO.
'no ethical consumption under capitalism' is about like having to buy fast fashion cause its the only option, or having to buy food supplies from brands that exploit workers because its the only choice you have. but tiktokers think that means they get a free pass to do anything
Who even likes Starbucks? I would rather die of dehydration than have to drink their garbage coffee. I mean, I FEEL like I can't live without coffee (I can), but I'll make it at home where it's actually good and not burned to shit. Influencers need better taste, in my opinion. If you're going to shill me products but have the unmitigated GALL to do so with a Starbucks in hand, I'm going to automatically dismiss whatever the hell you're trying to sell me. I'll dismiss whatever you're trying to sell regardless because I don't trust ads at all, the Starbucks just makes it that much easier for me to walk away.
@@sidiwvwhiIt’s about a lot more concepts than just that. It’s broader and more encompassing than that. It means, very literally, there is no ethical consumption under Capitalism. For anyone. For example, someone could buy clothes and food from only ethical brands, but if their car uses gas, this is contributing to the climate crisis and the fossil fuel industry. If that same person gets an electric car, but they order from ethical shops online, there is still most likely going to be fossil fuels involved in the transportation of their packages. Or if that someone likes anime and/or video games, they could be partaking in a product that was made by severely overworked artists. I could go on forever with these kinds of examples. The whole point of that quote is that capitalism is so fucked up at this point that trying to live ethically is a freaking minefield. Capitalism is just exploitation all the way down. It’s also used to point out that concepts like a “personal climate footprint” and personal buying habits will only ever go so far to solve our problems. That’s because these problems are systemic and being carried out by powers much bigger than one person. Not to mention capitalism always has a way of encouraging exploitation for the sake of profit.
what's crazy is he could've simply... not made the video? if he /really/ needed starbucks specifically so badly, he could've gotten it and... not shared to his massive platform? the obsessive necessity for attention is astoundingly cringe
He literally posted a video saying people in palestine deserve to die bc israel is fighting hamas?? Hes actually crazy and people feeding into his craze for attention is crazier bc his content sucks on many levels
I feel like this is really a bigger part of the problem, he felt the need to talk about how he's breaking a boycott, and for nothing but a coffee he could have made at home. He could break it every day and not have said anything and he wouldn't have gotten in trouble (of course thats terrible but I digress) it's just insane that he felt the need to make a tik tok about something so menial as getting coffee. If he hadn't even mentioned the boycott he would have been fine. It's just insane to me how out of touch and self obsessed people can be.
'my biggest fear is my mom and friends dying' is such a weird thing to bring up. like... thats everyones fear?? that doesn't make the situation any better??
@UTubeTrollPolice298 'my biggest fear is my mom and friends dying' is such a weird thing to bring up. like... thats everyones fear?? that doesn't make the situation any better??
I have had a Starbucks coffee everyday for decades. I know it is not the best but I work shift work on off hours and location and convenience kept me going. I stop going to Starbucks. It’s not that hard. Also, found a lovely small coffee shop not to far me.
@@Bo-iu7dc exactly! i was only going to starbucks for a while before the boycott and then once it was called it was so easy to stop. like it just isn’t this impossible task people are making it out to be
We are still boycotting Starbucks but not just for Palestine, we are also boycotting because of the union busting policies and the poor treatment of Starbucks baristas.
@@molasorrosalom4846this isnt a left vs right issue. right winged people are also boycotting starbucks because its the right thing to do. less of a political issue, more of a moral issue.
Give me a break, you people really don't care. Remember when you people ranted about conservatives boycotting Target? Called us homophobic, transphobic, whatever other phobic. But now you change your tune, because guess what? Target supports Israel. Majority of big businesses do, so what are you going to do?
What do you hope will happen with the Starbucks boycott? Do you think Israel will stop attacking Palestine? You just want to feel morally superior & bully others. You absolutely do not care about Palestinians.
Literally like if one person says “oh just this once” that tells other people it’s okay to break it and then others see it and soon you have a ton of people breaking the boycott because it’s “just this once” ESPECIALLY IF YOURE AN INFLUENCER WITH AN IMPRESSIONABLE AUDIENCE
Of all the things to break boycott for, it had to be shitty coffee, which is surpassed in quality by virtually every other coffee establishment in the country.
yea, almost like it’s not that much of an ask even if they did support israel, it’s petty spite protesting than is childish and purely self congratulatory
@@donnytonny730 i mean, what else do you want people to do when a company does something they don't like? just... not buying the thing their selling and getting other people who regularly buy it to also stop doing that is how you communicate that you're not happy with where your money goes when it's in their hands. maybe one person isn't gonna do much, but if a large enough amount of people do it, then it may make enough of a dent in profits for corporations to start paying attention. it doesn't need to be difficult to cut out; if you're a regular and you choose to stop going to starbucks because of their politics, then you are contributing. i swear, when it's government politics, it's "go to the polls" and "every vote matters", but when it's corporate politics, it's "petty spite protesting" and "childish" when you vote with your wallet.
@@undyingUmbrage413 i want people to not pretend they’re responding to disagreeable US foreign policy by protesting a coffee place with no affiliation. This isn’t coffee bean extraction displacing indigenous people. it’s pschizo posting about mega corp bad for literally no reason. they don’t find or have stores in Israel i’m angry bc this is seen as action of any meaning. it’s not about letting corporations know how you’re feeling, it’s about affecting power to implement change. it’s just so congratulatory for doing nothing. go out and protest in a meaningful way this is the real world you don’t get credit for trying, your actions aren’t in a vacuum what else do you want them to do? it’s not a company doing it- it’s the nation! it won’t stop the issue you claim to care about so spend that energy in a way that’ll be actually productive to any positive change in the situation
@@undyingUmbrage413 voting with your wallet doesn’t work, boycott is just a consumer strike and it don’t work bc our economic system hasn’t worked for consumers since the fifties
Honestly, I think once you get to a certain level of popularity, trolling like this becomes EXTRMEMELY harmful. If you're an actual successful troll, people won't know whether it's real or not. Like, I imagine there are more than a few people who don't know he's trolling and have his exact same mindset. Seeing a really popular person spewing nonsense like that just reinforces their line of thinking. That's the most annoying part about this whole thing, it's an endless cycle.
This is my hot take on "edgy" humor. At the end of the day, people repeat bigoted "jokes" and actual bigots use it as the go ahead to act like they have a leg to stand on :/ I'm tired of people getting upset every single time you call out their "jokes" not always being as harmless as they say they are. 🤷🏾♀️
I'm so happy this video came out, I have hated this guy since the very beginning and I cannot stand how so many people just write off all of the horrible things he's said because they think he's funny for whatever reason
@user-ur8wq7gp9u he said him and his boyfriend used to role-playing him being on epsteins island ?? Honestly just go to his channel the video titles are wild
@@user-ur8wq7gp9u i remember him saying “i love jewish people their little hats are so cute” like what 😭😭😭 he constantly says stuff like that and it gives me the vibes of people talking about their “gay best friends” and treating people as pets 😕😕
@@juliarosewitchpeople don't need hamas to care about them to care for people currently under the threat of genocide lol humanity shouldn't be transactional
What will boycotting Starbucks do? What are your demands from Starbucks? They already don’t give money to Israel, what more do you want? You want Howard Schultz to not support Israel? Ain’t gonna happen.
@@tivaspotato Honestly yall are a bunch of buffoons thinking boycotting a corporation who has no dealings in Israel will change or help Palestinians. It makes me so angry.
THANK YOU. Heard first thing, “Boycott Starbucks because they’re treating their employees poorly,” and haven’t bought Starbucks in MONTHS. It’s really fucking easy (even moreso now that a drink from them costs $10+).
So, you want to help Starbucks employees by not going to Starbucks...the company that employs and pays them? So, is the plan to make the employees unemployed? Am I getting this right? Because Starbucks will just close underperforming locations before changing policies. It's an international corporation, a boycott will only work if the majority of their customers in every country with Starbucks locations takes part. Which, isn't likely to happen.
Nobody is forcing anyone to work there, and they have decent benefits. Also, in case you're blind, the majority of people that work there are leftists, so go ahead and boycott them......
Thank you for advocating for our rights ❤ speaking of Ohio, I was bawling my eyes out when I heard about the woman who was arrested after her miscarriage and I’m so relieved the grand jury she went in front of knew it was bullshit and didn’t indict her. I feel so bad for her and truly hope she can heal from all the trauma she just endured. I’m so tired of the government trying to step into everyone’s medical care! But they would never tell a straight white man what to do with their bodies, right?🙄 we all deserve the right to choose, and especially shouldn’t be getting prosecuted over something that isn’t even a choice like a miscarriage. The whole thing makes me so sick. Like it’s 2024, what happened to all the work that was done over decades, if not centuries of bullshit! Something needs to give. But yeah I just wanted to say I appreciate you so much Grayson! You’re amazing ❤
@@pettykittyfam’forced’ vaccination isn’t a thing. it’s completely your choice to be a horrible person and not care about the immuno compromised people in your community ❤
Psa there's somebody in the comments (@/ville__) who keeps spamming comments to check their channel which leads to a video of cp (child corn if you get me) as well as their misogynistic and homophobic rants all in their community posts. Please be aware, block, report etc
he's the same guy who said 1989 by taylor swift deserved album of the year over to pimp a butterfly by kendrick lamar so... i don't really expect much from him
bug thresholds can be looked up depending on where you live, it’s pretty interesting seeing where allows more bugs and in what condition the bugs are allowed to be in lmao
literally the least he could do was, yknow, not post the video. like going to sbux off camera and not mentioning it online would be one thing, but he goes thru filming and posting the tiktok despite knowing about the boycott and then cries about the backlash? girl, get real
@@flamingflesh5976that was fr not the point they were making… if you don’t want serious backlash for posting something that’s obviously going to get backlash don’t post it. Common sense. At no point where they saying anyone has to do anything it just would’ve made sense if he didn’t want to get in trouble for showing it to thousands of people lol
It makes me irrationally angry when people can't give up stuff that like, sucks. Stuff that is low quality and bad for them and expensive. I'm a former barista who is in the video game sphere and it feels like everyone around me just refuses to think critically about either.
As soon as I realized there was a boycott on McDonalds, Starbucks, Coke, etc. it was the easiest shit I have ever participated in. I haven’t bought anything from those since October and I haven’t missed it at all, especially Starbucks. It doesn’t matter if he was a trol, it’s still disgusting for him to purposely get clout for getting Starbucks and acting like a victim when people called him out for supporting a genocide with his money.
I know this guy from some clips that ppl were sharing of TikTok lives where people were like “erm trans rights or reputation” or whatever and it was so cringe because he’s so obviously a troll and a very unfunny one at that and it pisses me off when people fall for something so stupid
Please please keep talking about this. Palestine needs our voices. There is not enough people talking about what’s going on in Gaza in the UA-cam community and I appreciate you so much for speaking on this. Please please continue to raise awareness Palestinians need us. My best friend is a Palestinian woman and never in my life have I witnessed so much pain and suffering first hand. 11 of her family members have been martyred. She is so scared and heart broken and her seeing people finally standing with her, her family, her people, and ancestors is genuinely something she and every other Palestinian person needs. This is so big thank you so much.
Omg I hate when influencers expect others to do research for them instead of just looking it up themselves.. like your whole job is literally being on the internet but you don’t know how to google something??😭
Its not only the fact he doesn't give a damn about the boycotts (and chooses to ignore it) its also the fact he is the biggest victim of capitalism, like a fill fledged starbucks fanboy, like its so cringe
i just want to say thank you for covering the full scale of the Starbucks boycott issue. so many creators on UA-cam have been covering the "scandal" and are completely clueless as to where or why this retaliation of the company stemmed, and even youtubers i trust to do proper investigation and who would obviously be against such crisises that are happening in Palestine still have no idea what is happening and it breaks my heart how there really are very small parts of the internet where people are uplifting the voices of people suffering from IDF's reckless ignorance. I know it must be hard to cover issues as these due to how dark the situation is, but as a new subscriber, please know that I understand and you have no idea how much it means to so many people that you are using your platform to uplift and encourage learning the truth of such corrupt governments and companies.
How about we give Gaza back to Egypt, and the West Bank back to Jordan? Problem solved. Oh wait, those two countries don't want them back. Hell, Palestinian refugees create so many problems, that they're kicked out of every host country. Jordan, Lebanon, Kuwait, all booster them out. Egypt built a wall to keep them out
You are so much more confident and authentic in your videos now, it reminds me of your old 2020 days before you got really big. It’s so awesome to see ❤️
even its a bit, it's not funny? like the "joke" (if it is 100% a joke, which i doubt) is just "i care more about mediocre overpriced coffee than i do actual human lives" like. what's the joke, beloathed. what's funny about it please explain it to me. and also regardless of how much he's joking or not he's still actively supporting starbucks, even if its "for the bit". also, when people say that not supporting so and so won't do anything, i'm just like.. it's not always about dollar amounts, its about showing the affected people that you care about them. it's like how maybe you personally giving up harry potter won't end jk rowling's career, but it will show the trans people in your life (and, if you're an influencer, in your audience) that you care about them more than you care about your fandom (like you should). and so by refusing to boycott starbucks because you just like it so much, you're showing palestinians, the union being sued, and both of their supporters that you care more about your coffee than you do their health and happiness and fucking lives.
@@molasorrosalom4846 ... what the actual fuck are you talking about? what, if every trans person or ally doesn't show up to this one trans person's university speech, we're all just grifting? you know caring about trans people and believing they deserve human rights doesn't go away if we aren't a fan of one specific trans person?
@@molasorrosalom4846 also why the fuck do you spend your time leaving pro-israel propaganda in the comments of random graysons projects videos. fucking go outside.
This guy obviously stands for nothing and beleives in nothing. He cant even pretend to do armchair/online activism. He doesnt give two craps about Gaza, only using it for clout
loved 22:37 because its so interesting how trolls are essentially given a platform by people dismissing criticisim of them. if we all agree to "make fun" of trolls by feeding them attention we are giving them the platform they wanted in the first place
but the thing is, bds has shown support for the starbucks boycott yet people keep using it not being on the official lists so they can force themselves to feel better about not truly caring about the boycott.
i appreciate you for speaking out and using your platform. i dont watch a lot of people on youtube and dwkt was one of my faves and when they refused to speak on it and lily got block happy… i just was beyond disappointed. thank you for just being a good person. i know its “bare minimum” but it just means a lot to me to contribute to giving someone w platform that is on the right side of history or just yk.. shows humanity.
it’s crazy that you’re one of the only youtubers i’ve seen talking about palestine. you, jordan theresa, matt bernstein. not much else. thank you!!, but also, it’s the bare minimum
i was not expecting reiner braun to be in this video but very much appreciated it anyway. this video discusses a genuine problem that needs to be spoken about but wanted i wanted to note the non relevant part of the video, a lot of comments expand on the main point
25:30 he says like “oh please educate me” but he has friends who are already trying to do that?? and he’s just not listening to them?? like yeah absolutely do research and hear from multiple people on issues, maybe other people know of resources his friends don’t, but if he’s already not listening to his friends and learning from or caring about what they’re sending him then what are other people on the internet gonna be able to do
“What about the workers?” I know someone who works at starbucks and everyone but the manager went on strike and didn’t go in for work in support for a day.🤦🏻♀️The employees get to write out a bag every week for free and this person doesn’t drink coffee so I get it and it’s absolutely not worth the price. Like it’s fine but I don’t get why people think it’s the holy grail of coffee
i only recognized this guy from a stitch tiktok where he says he wishes he was there when his country was colonized lmfao. the stitch was just someone going fucku basically
I actually really liked listening to this while I work, just so you know, there are 29/30 year olds like myself who watch you and this is really good for listening while driving / working so thank you. This coverage is excellent and I agreed with all of your points. I have not been to a Starbucks since last year and neither has my wife.
At this point, I genuinely believe the same people that say "don't let it bother you" and "let it go" are in support of the thing you're bothered and/or disgusted by. Period. Contrarianism is disgusting. Satire is a sorry form of fake comedy. And trolling is just trashy not funny. The position of the "devil's advocate" is invalid. I've known someone for almost 10 years that just constantly talks about "two sides to everything" or "well that's a gray area" and actually said once "what if hitler thought he was doing the right thing?" I went off on that and they never said that again but that's when I knew I was in a potentially dangerous situation and see no end in sight...scared to discuss it further in case they're watching me... its kind of pathetic how they try to argue against EVERYTHING I say though, they sound like Zavgirl! 🙄 Anyways, there's NOT two sides to everything. Some things are just black and white. And yes, some things are just inherently bad, no way around it. 🥝💚🖤
I truly didn't know about a statbucks boycott until watching this video. I avoid news because it's bad for my mental health and I don't use Twitter so I had no way of knowing. It's really shocking that starbucks is being so absolutely shitty
Dude please please please please please do some research from verified news sources before learning from UA-cam. This video is insanely biased and does not give a thorough and in depth explanation of ANYTHING.
I hate that Trolling and Irony is an exuse for kinda just being awful. Like cool you baited a bunch of people for being Transphobic (for example)... but you still were being Transphobic. Fuckin gotten ig.
As an ex Starbucks super fan (I have enough water tumblers to sink a ship), if I can boycott, ANYONE CAN. It’s honestly pathetic that people are still giving Starbucks their business.
i heard about "sbux is the only cafe near me :( " argument so much im starting to feel bad for us americans because how come you do not have any other cafes near you. how come would your only option be overpriced bad coffee
i just wanted to add despite starbucks not being on the bds boycott list, many palestinians on twitter have said to still boycott it regardless of this!!
Im sorry commenting early but the “only café i trust” line had me laughing my ass off like its coffee not major surgery. Also why is he acting like starbucks is the only place to get overpriced shitty coffee go to sonic, or whatever is inside bam or no. 7 like dude no one wants you to give up shit coffee
Im a starbucks employee. People already dont know what theyre ordering, so we have to translate whatever theyre saying into an actual order. Doing it on purpose or rattling off some stupid tiktok name is just fucking annoying. I can understand not being able to say the entire order because...yeah, theyre a mouthful. Also the sugar cookie almondmilk latte is nasty as hell and starbucks is really bad quality. The only reason i drink their stuff is because im not paying for it
The thing about trolls is no matter how often they say “it’s satire! I’m trolling!” There are ALWAYS people who their words pander to. And that’s exactly the problem
Exactly this, there’s a reason that actual trolling (an example is the “sharks are smooth” guy, which if you haven’t seen I highly recommend that shit is funny as hell) isn’t self proclaimed “trolling”, because it requires no defense,
anytime someone feels the need to go “I’m just trolling/it’s just satire”, it’s because they have an agenda and want an easy out
EXACTLYYYY
@@MayvaAva Why do you think that?
@@whitneyk3708 what?
same with andrew tate...i so often hear people say that theres no way he actaully stands behind the things he says and he does it just for the money...liek the ignorance to say this??? even IF he only did it for the money (which doesnt make it better tbh) he actively fed into the Incel movement and gender war...hes contributing to brainwashing young boys and infuences people who DO hate women...
Forget the dates being wrong, your hair color is what truly shows how long this video has sat in copyright jail
@ville__HUHHH????
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@@caitlynnx9805it’s a bot, block/report and move on
It takes a very special kind of person to troll about such terrible things happening in the world. It’s low-key evil that they don’t take truly awful stuff seriously.
I hate when people say "don't feed the trolls". No fuck the trolls. call them out otherwise gullible people on the internet are going to buy what they are saying.
I find it very sad that people think boycotting Starbucks helps innocent Palestinians. It does nothing.
@@Zectifin Gullible people? You mean like people boycotting Starbucks because the CEO is Jewish?
No seriously. Where did peoples human empathy go?
Sigh... U ppl don't understand what evil is atp. Trolls want u to get angry n sad towards them. They feed of that emotion itself witch is why ppl tell u to ignore or agree with them otherwise they won't stop.
Is that the Nair guy?
yes, hes also the millenial pause guy that said "im not mentally unstable nor am i on any drugs"
i could have gone my whole life without looking up 'Nair guy'...
Sure is
she said that in the video haha
For reference this is the nair guy rn
He says that it would be like not going to your favourite cafe. One; Starbucks being your favourite cafe is sad, and two; that kinda happened where I live. there was a doughnut and coffee place that was so popular, there was always a massive queue, it was the place to go on the weekend or if you had a day off. Then it was found out the owners were not good people, like possible nazi connections bad. They were dropped instantly, like shut within a day, and people just moved on because people win over coffee, and doughnuts.
Not only is he the nair guy he said he wants to roleplay being on Epstein island and said Taylor Swift when asked “Taylor swift or blm” and has done more…
People like him make my brain hurt 😵💫😒 Like you can just stop talking now, thanks. The ignorance is just mind boggling and there's nothing funny about his nonsense at all. Just wow.
That's just gross.... Considering Taylor Swift donated money to BLM movement.
Epstein Island huh? So this guy admits he's a pedo...
oh SHIT
he was the epstein twink guy.
thank you for calling this out because so many people were defending him with the same "no ethical consumption under capitalism!!" shit and it's corny. that phrase doesn't give you an excuse to buy unethical products if you have the money TO CHOOSE SOMETHING ELSE!! its like people who buy $1000 shein hauls and then cry about how "well no ethical consumption under capitalism!!" despite the fact they're rich spoiled influencers and literally a part of the problem. you don't need starbucks to survive and iced coffee is so accessible these days. can we just get rid of all annoying twink influencers at this point LMFAOO.
'no ethical consumption under capitalism' is about like having to buy fast fashion cause its the only option, or having to buy food supplies from brands that exploit workers because its the only choice you have. but tiktokers think that means they get a free pass to do anything
Who even likes Starbucks? I would rather die of dehydration than have to drink their garbage coffee. I mean, I FEEL like I can't live without coffee (I can), but I'll make it at home where it's actually good and not burned to shit. Influencers need better taste, in my opinion. If you're going to shill me products but have the unmitigated GALL to do so with a Starbucks in hand, I'm going to automatically dismiss whatever the hell you're trying to sell me. I'll dismiss whatever you're trying to sell regardless because I don't trust ads at all, the Starbucks just makes it that much easier for me to walk away.
What do you think boycotting Starbucks will do? They do not fund Israel, so I’m at a loss. Why Starbucks over every other company? It’s bizarre.
@@sidiwvwhiIt’s about a lot more concepts than just that. It’s broader and more encompassing than that. It means, very literally, there is no ethical consumption under Capitalism. For anyone.
For example, someone could buy clothes and food from only ethical brands, but if their car uses gas, this is contributing to the climate crisis and the fossil fuel industry. If that same person gets an electric car, but they order from ethical shops online, there is still most likely going to be fossil fuels involved in the transportation of their packages. Or if that someone likes anime and/or video games, they could be partaking in a product that was made by severely overworked artists. I could go on forever with these kinds of examples.
The whole point of that quote is that capitalism is so fucked up at this point that trying to live ethically is a freaking minefield. Capitalism is just exploitation all the way down.
It’s also used to point out that concepts like a “personal climate footprint” and personal buying habits will only ever go so far to solve our problems. That’s because these problems are systemic and being carried out by powers much bigger than one person. Not to mention capitalism always has a way of encouraging exploitation for the sake of profit.
I agree with everything but the last part…what does being a twink influencer have to do with bad actions?
what's crazy is he could've simply... not made the video? if he /really/ needed starbucks specifically so badly, he could've gotten it and... not shared to his massive platform? the obsessive necessity for attention is astoundingly cringe
He literally posted a video saying people in palestine deserve to die bc israel is fighting hamas?? Hes actually crazy and people feeding into his craze for attention is crazier bc his content sucks on many levels
I feel like this is really a bigger part of the problem, he felt the need to talk about how he's breaking a boycott, and for nothing but a coffee he could have made at home.
He could break it every day and not have said anything and he wouldn't have gotten in trouble (of course thats terrible but I digress) it's just insane that he felt the need to make a tik tok about something so menial as getting coffee. If he hadn't even mentioned the boycott he would have been fine. It's just insane to me how out of touch and self obsessed people can be.
'my biggest fear is my mom and friends dying' is such a weird thing to bring up. like... thats everyones fear?? that doesn't make the situation any better??
@UTubeTrollPolice298 'my biggest fear is my mom and friends dying' is such a weird thing to bring up. like... thats everyones fear?? that doesn't make the situation any better??
The amount of people willing to throw away any morals over a cup of coffee
and i happily would tbh!
@@khaowai Kpop profile pic alert 🤮
@@FuchsiaPandaBear erm.. ok..?
@@khaowai loser
@@khaowaicornball
his excuse being “i just really love starbucks please give me a pass” girl no
starbucks isn't even good
I have had a Starbucks coffee everyday for decades. I know it is not the best but I work shift work on off hours and location and convenience kept me going. I stop going to Starbucks. It’s not that hard. Also, found a lovely small coffee shop not to far me.
@@Bo-iu7dc exactly! i was only going to starbucks for a while before the boycott and then once it was called it was so easy to stop. like it just isn’t this impossible task people are making it out to be
Dunkin donut has better coffee and cheaper frozen drinks
I love pink drinks and Iʻm not going, I support local boba places instead
We are still boycotting Starbucks but not just for Palestine, we are also boycotting because of the union busting policies and the poor treatment of Starbucks baristas.
Fr Starbucks has been doing so much shit forever now. This was just the final thing to push people over the edge and finally call them out
Leftists boycotting leftists, love to see it.
@@molasorrosalom4846this isnt a left vs right issue. right winged people are also boycotting starbucks because its the right thing to do. less of a political issue, more of a moral issue.
@@molasorrosalom4846are you being a troll too????
Or do you not care about other people???!!!
Give me a break, you people really don't care.
Remember when you people ranted about conservatives boycotting Target? Called us homophobic, transphobic, whatever other phobic.
But now you change your tune, because guess what? Target supports Israel.
Majority of big businesses do, so what are you going to do?
Trolling or not aside, there is no such thing as a pass on a boycott, that's just breaking the boycott!
What do you hope will happen with the Starbucks boycott? Do you think Israel will stop attacking Palestine?
You just want to feel morally superior & bully others. You absolutely do not care about Palestinians.
@UTubeTrollPolice298 so, Israeli does , like benji boy is right-wing
Literally like if one person says “oh just this once” that tells other people it’s okay to break it and then others see it and soon you have a ton of people breaking the boycott because it’s “just this once” ESPECIALLY IF YOURE AN INFLUENCER WITH AN IMPRESSIONABLE AUDIENCE
Boycott a company that employs mostly liberals?
Sounds good to me.
Of all the things to break boycott for, it had to be shitty coffee, which is surpassed in quality by virtually every other coffee establishment in the country.
yea, almost like it’s not that much of an ask
even if they did support israel, it’s petty spite protesting than is childish and purely self congratulatory
Like you’re paying like $20 for coffee when you can buy a espresso machine for then amount
@@donnytonny730 i mean, what else do you want people to do when a company does something they don't like? just... not buying the thing their selling and getting other people who regularly buy it to also stop doing that is how you communicate that you're not happy with where your money goes when it's in their hands. maybe one person isn't gonna do much, but if a large enough amount of people do it, then it may make enough of a dent in profits for corporations to start paying attention. it doesn't need to be difficult to cut out; if you're a regular and you choose to stop going to starbucks because of their politics, then you are contributing.
i swear, when it's government politics, it's "go to the polls" and "every vote matters", but when it's corporate politics, it's "petty spite protesting" and "childish" when you vote with your wallet.
@@undyingUmbrage413 i want people to not pretend they’re responding to disagreeable US foreign policy by protesting a coffee place with no affiliation.
This isn’t coffee bean extraction displacing indigenous people. it’s pschizo posting about mega corp bad for literally no reason. they don’t find or have stores in Israel
i’m angry bc this is seen as action of any meaning.
it’s not about letting corporations know how you’re feeling, it’s about affecting power to implement change.
it’s just so congratulatory for doing nothing. go out and protest in a meaningful way
this is the real world you don’t get credit for trying, your actions aren’t in a vacuum
what else do you want them to do? it’s not a company doing it- it’s the nation! it won’t stop the issue you claim to care about so spend that energy in a way that’ll be actually productive to any positive change in the situation
@@undyingUmbrage413 voting with your wallet doesn’t work, boycott is just a consumer strike and it don’t work bc our economic system hasn’t worked for consumers since the fifties
Honestly, I think once you get to a certain level of popularity, trolling like this becomes EXTRMEMELY harmful. If you're an actual successful troll, people won't know whether it's real or not. Like, I imagine there are more than a few people who don't know he's trolling and have his exact same mindset. Seeing a really popular person spewing nonsense like that just reinforces their line of thinking. That's the most annoying part about this whole thing, it's an endless cycle.
Yep, exactly 💯
someone saying terrible things and someone saying terrible things to troll is the same picture.
@@Zectifin Very, very true! I've never been able to comprehend why Trolling is an acceptable or fun thing in the first place, tbfh.
This is my hot take on "edgy" humor. At the end of the day, people repeat bigoted "jokes" and actual bigots use it as the go ahead to act like they have a leg to stand on :/
I'm tired of people getting upset every single time you call out their "jokes" not always being as harmless as they say they are. 🤷🏾♀️
so glad you decided to keep that legendary title.
I'm so happy this video came out, I have hated this guy since the very beginning and I cannot stand how so many people just write off all of the horrible things he's said because they think he's funny for whatever reason
What else has he said
@user-ur8wq7gp9u he said him and his boyfriend used to role-playing him being on epsteins island ?? Honestly just go to his channel the video titles are wild
@@user-ur8wq7gp9u he constantly spews internalized homophobic rhetoric and he's said some pretty offensive shit towards autistic people
This!!!
@@user-ur8wq7gp9u i remember him saying “i love jewish people their little hats are so cute” like what 😭😭😭 he constantly says stuff like that and it gives me the vibes of people talking about their “gay best friends” and treating people as pets 😕😕
“I sympathise but not enough to refrain from buying a cheap coffee”.
Cheap is crazy 😭
Starbucks is cheap?
You meant expensive cheaply made
Thank you for using your platform to bring awareness to this
It’s refreshing to see people on youtube bringing awareness to it!🍉
@@juliarosewitch cope harder Zionist
@@juliarosewitchpeople don't need hamas to care about them to care for people currently under the threat of genocide lol humanity shouldn't be transactional
What will boycotting Starbucks do? What are your demands from Starbucks? They already don’t give money to Israel, what more do you want? You want Howard Schultz to not support Israel? Ain’t gonna happen.
@@tivaspotato Honestly yall are a bunch of buffoons thinking boycotting a corporation who has no dealings in Israel will change or help Palestinians. It makes me so angry.
THANK YOU. Heard first thing, “Boycott Starbucks because they’re treating their employees poorly,” and haven’t bought Starbucks in MONTHS. It’s really fucking easy (even moreso now that a drink from them costs $10+).
So, you want to help Starbucks employees by not going to Starbucks...the company that employs and pays them? So, is the plan to make the employees unemployed? Am I getting this right? Because Starbucks will just close underperforming locations before changing policies. It's an international corporation, a boycott will only work if the majority of their customers in every country with Starbucks locations takes part. Which, isn't likely to happen.
Fr there are so much better and cheaper options!
Nobody is forcing anyone to work there, and they have decent benefits.
Also, in case you're blind, the majority of people that work there are leftists, so go ahead and boycott them......
Nobody forces them to work there.
Thank you for advocating for our rights ❤ speaking of Ohio, I was bawling my eyes out when I heard about the woman who was arrested after her miscarriage and I’m so relieved the grand jury she went in front of knew it was bullshit and didn’t indict her. I feel so bad for her and truly hope she can heal from all the trauma she just endured. I’m so tired of the government trying to step into everyone’s medical care! But they would never tell a straight white man what to do with their bodies, right?🙄 we all deserve the right to choose, and especially shouldn’t be getting prosecuted over something that isn’t even a choice like a miscarriage. The whole thing makes me so sick. Like it’s 2024, what happened to all the work that was done over decades, if not centuries of bullshit! Something needs to give. But yeah I just wanted to say I appreciate you so much Grayson! You’re amazing ❤
Your rights? To boycott Starbucks?
God yall are pathetic.
You don't support forced vaccination right 👍
My body my choice 💗
@@pettykittyfam’forced’ vaccination isn’t a thing. it’s completely your choice to be a horrible person and not care about the immuno compromised people in your community ❤
All these years later, and you're so stupid, yes, not ignorant, but stupid, to still believe that the unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated???
How many jabs have you gotten?
Psa there's somebody in the comments (@/ville__) who keeps spamming comments to check their channel which leads to a video of cp (child corn if you get me) as well as their misogynistic and homophobic rants all in their community posts. Please be aware, block, report etc
he's the same guy who said 1989 by taylor swift deserved album of the year over to pimp a butterfly by kendrick lamar so... i don't really expect much from him
Just a note, all coffee grounds have bugs in them. Not just Starbucks. it is impossible for coffee to be processed without any bugs being included
FACTS
bug thresholds can be looked up depending on where you live, it’s pretty interesting seeing where allows more bugs and in what condition the bugs are allowed to be in lmao
the FDA allowed amount of human feces in our food is not 0%.
Yea the only way to really avoid bugs in coffee grounds is to grind it yourself in small batches
me when my creepy crawlies make the beans
literally the least he could do was, yknow, not post the video. like going to sbux off camera and not mentioning it online would be one thing, but he goes thru filming and posting the tiktok despite knowing about the boycott and then cries about the backlash? girl, get real
Starbucks has been messaging tiktok accounts with over 50,000 they will pay $1,000 to some people for just having the drink in the post.
TRUE
So the internet is a hive mind and everybody has to post accordingly to your beliefs? Lol touch grass 😂
@@flamingflesh5976 yes
@@flamingflesh5976that was fr not the point they were making… if you don’t want serious backlash for posting something that’s obviously going to get backlash don’t post it. Common sense. At no point where they saying anyone has to do anything it just would’ve made sense if he didn’t want to get in trouble for showing it to thousands of people lol
i'm glad someone is criticizing this guy, it's kinda sad that it took this long for people to realize how horrible sbux is to their union though
The Unions literally pretended Starbucks was supporting Palestine, using their image. Starbucks acted rightfully in this case.
Isn’t funny that it takes a war in the middle east for people to actually care about Starbucks workers 😂
They don't really care though, it's fake outrage
@@molasorrosalom4846depends on the person we’re not all the same
The “nair video” is just shocking. In the first 10 seconds you get flashed. No warning
You are the only youtuber I know openly speaking about this genocide, thank you so much.
It makes me irrationally angry when people can't give up stuff that like, sucks. Stuff that is low quality and bad for them and expensive. I'm a former barista who is in the video game sphere and it feels like everyone around me just refuses to think critically about either.
Love that he brings up the killings by Hamas but just disregards the retaliation atrocities that are still happening
He's a troll.
@ville__ yeah no one’s gonna check out your shitty channel
As soon as I realized there was a boycott on McDonalds, Starbucks, Coke, etc. it was the easiest shit I have ever participated in. I haven’t bought anything from those since October and I haven’t missed it at all, especially Starbucks. It doesn’t matter if he was a trol, it’s still disgusting for him to purposely get clout for getting Starbucks and acting like a victim when people called him out for supporting a genocide with his money.
I know this guy from some clips that ppl were sharing of TikTok lives where people were like “erm trans rights or reputation” or whatever and it was so cringe because he’s so obviously a troll and a very unfunny one at that and it pisses me off when people fall for something so stupid
@UTubeTrollPolice298 PLAY WITH MEEEEEE hahaha 뻔하지 않은 newbie
same
Please please keep talking about this. Palestine needs our voices. There is not enough people talking about what’s going on in Gaza in the UA-cam community and I appreciate you so much for speaking on this. Please please continue to raise awareness Palestinians need us. My best friend is a Palestinian woman and never in my life have I witnessed so much pain and suffering first hand. 11 of her family members have been martyred. She is so scared and heart broken and her seeing people finally standing with her, her family, her people, and ancestors is genuinely something she and every other Palestinian person needs. This is so big thank you so much.
Awwwwwww, someone play some sad violin music.......
@@molasorrosalom4846 gross
My boyfriend works at starbucks, he loves how quiet it's been recently
So he's part of the problem?
And I shudder to think what kind of "man" your BF is.
@@molasorrosalom4846 lol go away troll
Sure girl, we all know the people that work there, it's like the cantina scene in Star Wars.
Omg I hate when influencers expect others to do research for them instead of just looking it up themselves.. like your whole job is literally being on the internet but you don’t know how to google something??😭
Off topic, but I LOVE your outfit in this video, Grayson. Itms so cute and witchy
Its not only the fact he doesn't give a damn about the boycotts (and chooses to ignore it) its also the fact he is the biggest victim of capitalism, like a fill fledged starbucks fanboy, like its so cringe
What's wrong with capitalism?
i definitely think that this unscripted content fits you well! you bring up good points and you speak eloquently :) good video!
i just want to say thank you for covering the full scale of the Starbucks boycott issue. so many creators on UA-cam have been covering the "scandal" and are completely clueless as to where or why this retaliation of the company stemmed, and even youtubers i trust to do proper investigation and who would obviously be against such crisises that are happening in Palestine still have no idea what is happening and it breaks my heart how there really are very small parts of the internet where people are uplifting the voices of people suffering from IDF's reckless ignorance. I know it must be hard to cover issues as these due to how dark the situation is, but as a new subscriber, please know that I understand and you have no idea how much it means to so many people that you are using your platform to uplift and encourage learning the truth of such corrupt governments and companies.
and omg WE HAVE THE SAME HEADPHONES sorry that's so cool to me lol
How about we give Gaza back to Egypt, and the West Bank back to Jordan? Problem solved.
Oh wait, those two countries don't want them back.
Hell, Palestinian refugees create so many problems, that they're kicked out of every host country.
Jordan, Lebanon, Kuwait, all booster them out.
Egypt built a wall to keep them out
You are so much more confident and authentic in your videos now, it reminds me of your old 2020 days before you got really big. It’s so awesome to see ❤️
@ville__the hell are you talking about you freak
His trolling money will come and go but the reputation of his bad decisions are permanent
even its a bit, it's not funny? like the "joke" (if it is 100% a joke, which i doubt) is just "i care more about mediocre overpriced coffee than i do actual human lives" like. what's the joke, beloathed. what's funny about it please explain it to me. and also regardless of how much he's joking or not he's still actively supporting starbucks, even if its "for the bit".
also, when people say that not supporting so and so won't do anything, i'm just like.. it's not always about dollar amounts, its about showing the affected people that you care about them. it's like how maybe you personally giving up harry potter won't end jk rowling's career, but it will show the trans people in your life (and, if you're an influencer, in your audience) that you care about them more than you care about your fandom (like you should). and so by refusing to boycott starbucks because you just like it so much, you're showing palestinians, the union being sued, and both of their supporters that you care more about your coffee than you do their health and happiness and fucking lives.
It's not funny but for some reason people love it when someone constantly acts and says outrageous things, just look at Shane Dawson in is heyday.
You people care about the trans community so much, that when Dylan showed up to speak at a university, only ten people showed up....
@@molasorrosalom4846 ... what the actual fuck are you talking about? what, if every trans person or ally doesn't show up to this one trans person's university speech, we're all just grifting?
you know caring about trans people and believing they deserve human rights doesn't go away if we aren't a fan of one specific trans person?
@@molasorrosalom4846 also why the fuck do you spend your time leaving pro-israel propaganda in the comments of random graysons projects videos. fucking go outside.
This guy obviously stands for nothing and beleives in nothing. He cant even pretend to do armchair/online activism. He doesnt give two craps about Gaza, only using it for clout
Please, you people care about Gaza? It's fake outrage.
You people don't really care either
So does every online ‘activist’ who always has the current #movements in their bios
#Resist
#Metoo
#Believeallwomen
#StopAsianHate
loved 22:37 because its so interesting how trolls are essentially given a platform by people dismissing criticisim of them. if we all agree to "make fun" of trolls by feeding them attention we are giving them the platform they wanted in the first place
He really showed his whole ass on this one.
6:29 It’s not him that he was showin hole, IT WAS JUST ABRUPT AS HELL
Mf coulda just went and got a coffee and not told everyone. I'm pretty sure that's what everyone else does
When ppl think this is the kind of main character behaviour we want. Ewww, my desires first before ppl's lives. yuck
fr
Honestly I wouldn’t give that guy (clown) any attention. People like that don’t care about others, just ignore them.
I live in Nebraska, which is basically nowhere and we were the first state to prosecute someone for obtaining services. I’m never proud of this place.
New Grayson video? I’m seated.
When I worked there, my cowokers and I all agreed Starbucks coffee sucked and thats why people put so much syrup in their drinks.
“im gonna off myself in front of you and change the trajectory of your life for ever” OMG i’m gonna use that one
but the thing is, bds has shown support for the starbucks boycott yet people keep using it not being on the official lists so they can force themselves to feel better about not truly caring about the boycott.
i appreciate you for speaking out and using your platform. i dont watch a lot of people on youtube and dwkt was one of my faves and when they refused to speak on it and lily got block happy… i just was beyond disappointed. thank you for just being a good person. i know its “bare minimum” but it just means a lot to me to contribute to giving someone w platform that is on the right side of history or just yk.. shows humanity.
your voice is so comforting
A voice ruined by taking testosterone
i loved that subtle tweet reference when you were talking abt trisha :)
THANK YOU. i was so upset when he said "i feel bad about the bombings BUT-"
But????? Children are dying.
it’s crazy that you’re one of the only youtubers i’ve seen talking about palestine. you, jordan theresa, matt bernstein. not much else. thank you!!, but also, it’s the bare minimum
i love this style of video! i feel like we’re just chatting & it’s so fun
i was not expecting reiner braun to be in this video but very much appreciated it anyway.
this video discusses a genuine problem that needs to be spoken about but wanted i wanted to note the non relevant part of the video, a lot of comments expand on the main point
Oh my god the video isn't even 5 minutes in and your hair has changed like 4 times and I'm loving all of it. Your hair is always so pretty!
25:30 he says like “oh please educate me” but he has friends who are already trying to do that?? and he’s just not listening to them?? like yeah absolutely do research and hear from multiple people on issues, maybe other people know of resources his friends don’t, but if he’s already not listening to his friends and learning from or caring about what they’re sending him then what are other people on the internet gonna be able to do
YT won’t let me comment that gen 0 cide is wrong, and 75y of colo is not 2 sides war…
damn, hoodie looks COMFY
unrelated but girl i need those headphones!!!
huh @ville__
Um..ignore that bot. But I think they’re the razer kraken hello kitty ones. About $120-ish
“What about the workers?” I know someone who works at starbucks and everyone but the manager went on strike and didn’t go in for work in support for a day.🤦🏻♀️The employees get to write out a bag every week for free and this person doesn’t drink coffee so I get it and it’s absolutely not worth the price. Like it’s fine but I don’t get why people think it’s the holy grail of coffee
there's bugs in all coffee grounds btw. just like there's bugs in all chocolate. there's genuinely no way to prevent it 100%
Caffeine is one hell of a drug to be dickriding a company like Starbucks, absolutely insane
i only recognized this guy from a stitch tiktok where he says he wishes he was there when his country was colonized lmfao. the stitch was just someone going fucku basically
living for grayson's hater era
I loved this format please do It more
I honestly just appreciate you bringing up the boycott
Dude needed to seriously think before he spoke, at all.
I actually really liked listening to this while I work, just so you know, there are 29/30 year olds like myself who watch you and this is really good for listening while driving / working so thank you. This coverage is excellent and I agreed with all of your points. I have not been to a Starbucks since last year and neither has my wife.
u look like jinx from teen titans
“i know there’s like overseas bombing and stuff” how can someone be so unaware…
red hair suits u so well omg. this video was good btw!!!
At this point, I genuinely believe the same people that say "don't let it bother you" and "let it go" are in support of the thing you're bothered and/or disgusted by. Period. Contrarianism is disgusting. Satire is a sorry form of fake comedy. And trolling is just trashy not funny. The position of the "devil's advocate" is invalid. I've known someone for almost 10 years that just constantly talks about "two sides to everything" or "well that's a gray area" and actually said once "what if hitler thought he was doing the right thing?" I went off on that and they never said that again but that's when I knew I was in a potentially dangerous situation and see no end in sight...scared to discuss it further in case they're watching me... its kind of pathetic how they try to argue against EVERYTHING I say though, they sound like Zavgirl! 🙄
Anyways, there's NOT two sides to everything. Some things are just black and white. And yes, some things are just inherently bad, no way around it.
🥝💚🖤
I do really miss your social commentary content, that was the original reason I started following you :)
I would equate drive thru trolling to a prank that one party didn't consent to. It's just uncomfortable on my end.
you can literally just make coffee at home and itd probably taste better than starbucks crapwater
OMG THIS GUYS TAKES HAVE BEEN GIVING ME THE ICK FOR A HOT ASS MINUTE THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT HIM OMG
hated that mfer when he started with at "acoustic" and "restarted" bull
I truly didn't know about a statbucks boycott until watching this video. I avoid news because it's bad for my mental health and I don't use Twitter so I had no way of knowing. It's really shocking that starbucks is being so absolutely shitty
Dude please please please please please do some research from verified news sources before learning from UA-cam. This video is insanely biased and does not give a thorough and in depth explanation of ANYTHING.
I hate that Trolling and Irony is an exuse for kinda just being awful. Like cool you baited a bunch of people for being Transphobic (for example)... but you still were being Transphobic. Fuckin gotten ig.
This guy reminds me of those really annoying pimples that you get under your skin that you can't get to
my yt didnt showed me your last like 4 videos?? it thought that you are just not posting?? and i am subscribing lol
Probs shadowbanned because of the copyright claims
the burping at the start of his video says enough tbh
YEAH IM IN OHIO & I VOTED - LETS GOOO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS
As an ex Starbucks super fan (I have enough water tumblers to sink a ship), if I can boycott, ANYONE CAN. It’s honestly pathetic that people are still giving Starbucks their business.
Absolutely love the moon and skull necklace you’re wearing!!
Not the Nair guy 😂
i heard about "sbux is the only cafe near me :( " argument so much im starting to feel bad for us americans because how come you do not have any other cafes near you. how come would your only option be overpriced bad coffee
i just found your channel! this is gonna sound random, but i love your voice 😭 it’s so relaxing idk. Anyways this was a great video, enjoyed it a lot.
if Starbucks is suing they can lose the lawsuit and maybe even be counter sued for whatever the union lawyer knows to do.
i just wanted to add despite starbucks not being on the bds boycott list, many palestinians on twitter have said to still boycott it regardless of this!!
grayson you always look good but you loook GOOD in this video ong
Makeup and lighting will do wonders.
Im sorry commenting early but the “only café i trust” line had me laughing my ass off like its coffee not major surgery. Also why is he acting like starbucks is the only place to get overpriced shitty coffee go to sonic, or whatever is inside bam or no. 7 like dude no one wants you to give up shit coffee
Im a starbucks employee. People already dont know what theyre ordering, so we have to translate whatever theyre saying into an actual order. Doing it on purpose or rattling off some stupid tiktok name is just fucking annoying. I can understand not being able to say the entire order because...yeah, theyre a mouthful.
Also the sugar cookie almondmilk latte is nasty as hell and starbucks is really bad quality. The only reason i drink their stuff is because im not paying for it
based LMAO
According to progressives, you're part of the problem.