Testing 29 Systems with the RetroTINK 5X Pro
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- RetroTINK-5X Pro is a FPGA-powered upscaler that allows you to hook up retro video game consoles and computers for use on modern day TVs. In this video, I test 30 different consoles, computers, and add-ons and share my results. More Info here: www.retrotink.com/
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Game Consoles shown in this order 00:00
Tested with Component Cables
Wii - Smash Brothers Brawl - 1:26
PS2 - Gran Turismo 3 - 1:56
Xbox - Soul Calibur II - 2:24
Xbox - MX vs. ATV Unleashed - 2:39
GameCube - Star Wars Rogue Leader - 3:05
Nuon - Tempest 3000 - 3:44
Jaguar - Rayman - 4:20
SNES - Super Mario All Stars - 4:48
Saturn - Virtua Fighter 2 - 5:25
Genesis - Sonic the Hedgehog - 6:15
32X - Star Wars Arcade - 6:36
Sega CD - Final Fight - 7:05
Master System - Power Strike - 7:37
Neo Geo - Samurai Showdown II - 8:08
Tested with S-video Cables
N64- Super Mario 64 - 8:49
3DO - Super Street Fighter II Turbo - 9:51
CDTV- Spirit of Excalibur - 10:59
Cdi - GoldStar 1200M - Hotel Mario - 11:45
C64 - Attack of the Mutant Camels - 12:28
Atari 8 bit - 130XE - Dropzone 12:55
Tested with Composite Cables
Turbo Duo - Blazing Lazers - 13:36
Turbo Duo - Bonk 3 CD - 14:04
SuperGrafx - Daimakaimura - 14:27
NES - Castlevania - 14:47
MSX - CX5M - Mappy - 15:13
TI-99/4A - Munch Man - 15:34
Vic 20 - Star Trek - 16:09
Apple IIc - Oregon Trail - 16:53
Tested with SCART Cables
Atari ST - Mega 4 - Ghouls N Ghosts - 17:33
Dreamcast - Soul Calibur - 17:49
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Hey John - thank you so much for doing this! It's an incredible tour!
Just want to throw out that if you got one of the DC cables from RGC or RA that support 480p -- it'll look incredible! The 480i from the cheap ones is okay, but DC is definitely worth the upgrade.
Thank you very much! I will definitely track down a cable for DC.
@@johnhancockretro the Toro VGA/ SCART box from Behar Bros isnt for everyone but its available and arrives within a week!
This is good information. Have you considered sending John one of those cables for review? I have followed him for some time and would definitely purchase one on his recommendation - and if it pairs well with the RetroTINK-5X Pro...all the better!
Any signs of controller lag at all?
@@johnhancockretro you can get a rgb to hdmi for like 20-50 bucks
Video was going to be 30, but forgot to upload Amiga CD32 footage. Oops
John Hancock may be immortal, but he is still human.
A perfect opportunity to make a video on the Amiga CD32 I hope.
$300 is pretty fair considering some of the alternatives and mods that system requires. Great to see you run through the gamut, much more can be done in the settings, but a quick down & dirty look gives you an idea
Great job John. Really cool to see what the 5X does with some of these more obscure console and computers!
I've been loving mine. Even though the price is really high, I'm finding that it justifies every penny of the asking price. Thanks for the video!
What an absolutely thorough and fantastic video. Great work!
This looks fantastic. I need to test this on my Saturn and my commodore PCs. Thanks for posting this!
Nice summary. This upscaler seems to be pretty versatile. I was impressed with how good the composite captures looked for the Turbo Duo.
The 5x looks amazing! Great to see how all these consoles handle it. I've not that long ago got the 2x-pro so can't justify getting it.
The 2x line is still a great set of devices that are better than generic scaling boxes-I’d definitely recommend them to someone just getting started.
i LOVE the TI-99/4A mention. It was my first computer, and first video game system. I hardly ever see it on retro gaming videos. So many great games, so far ahead of it's time (with speech synthesizer).. It came out the year i was born, the education software was so beneficial to my early childhood education. Hope you can do more videos of that system in the future. More games to check out for the system: Car Wars, Hopper, ATTACK!, Jungle Hunt.
Me: "Ooh, lots of cable ideas!"
My bank account: "Oh. Oh, no."
🤣👍🏻
John taking it way back! Oregon Trail and the typing worm game were my favorites.
Thank you. Was trying to get metal Jesus to do a new video on something just like this. Thank you for doing it. Immortal John respect.
This was a welcome shot of positivity into my day, thanks.
Loved the Showcase. Was a little bummed no footage of a PS1 but everything else was awesome.
Great video john
I love the retrotink 5x. Absolutely perfect for me.
Definitely should do Saturn ranking videos! Would be awesome!!!
I just got mine and it does an amazing job. Thanks for showing your nes grab I wanted to see if other people got that left side vertical bar.
Congrats on 100k subs!
You are a saint for putting in all those timestamps
I want this to be a reference to those with a particular console or computer. Thank you!
I was really hoping you had an X6800 to test with it. Great video as always!!!
Hey John Hancock one thing I would like to see and I believe others would too is comparing this one to the Retrotink 2X-Multiformat and Retrotink 2X-Pro for those of us running multiple systems. I love this video and the channel John!
Cool to see you test the TI99 4/A. My first system. I spend a lot of time playing Munchman, Parsec, TI Invaders and the best game on the system - Tunnels of Doom.
I have the second gen RetroTink, and I love it. BUUUT. Seeing a lot of the reviews of the 5X, I may upgrade. Have enough old systems (PS2, Wii, Gamecube and SNES) that aren't modded that look like they would be beautiful using the RetroTink 5x.
Awesome review accross so many machines. Happy to see lots of computers there too.
Though I take umbrage when you call PC Kid III an obscure game 😉
have the 2x & still want the 5x ✨
very cool product/company
Turismo 3 is one of the best gt games, so mad I lost my saturn during a move, great video as usual.
Dreamcast with the SCART hookup looked AMAZING.THE 5x is currently out of stock.
Pricey indeed.. I might grab one someday, out of convenience/an all in one solution, but I'm covered in the meantime with the OSSC and Retrotink 2x-Scart I suppose. 🙂
One of your BEST videos, Mr Hancock... I did really enjoy It too much... I'm agree with you: great results, but a bit expensive... Greetings from Spain... 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I have the 2x and can't wait to get a chance to order this bad boy.
thank you! :)
Wow all look fantastic. All from a little box!! Only downside is the price. Ok if ur plans are to stream gameplay but not so good if u just want to kick back and play games to relieve ur childhood
16:53 A Blessing from the Lord!
Played it in Ele school decades ago....
Thanks for being so thorough John, it is much appreciated fella 👍🙏
I'm so glad you went to wii first, that looks amazing. Have you had a chance to try this with the Mclassic add on in basic? I remember seeing a review where it managed to improve the 2x pro marginally on the basic setting. I think that plus the dual RGB custom console would max it out completely.
If you use the RetroTINK 5X N64 profile while using S-Video, the image will look very close to the Ultra HDMI.
I just loaded up Desert Strike on the Genesis, and I noticed the same blue border that's on Sonic and Final Fight in the video. Interesting thing is I'm not using an external upscaler. It's direct composite out to the composite in on my TV. So it must be the Genesis itself, not the Retrotink.
So I'm confused. What would be the difference between hooking up an original Xbox or Wii via component cables directly to my 70" LCD, or through a receiver, compared to going through this upscaler? Does this device just upscaler better than TVs and receivers? Thanks
Well... I guess I eventually going to get one of these to not have to switch upscalers depending on my consoles, I (at the time of this comment) use the classic Retrotink 2X for my Ps1, Ps2, N64, Wii, NES and SNES, and the Retrotink 2X SCART for my Genesis model 2 (which I need to get a better SCART cable to get rid of the jail-thingy... but at least is way better than composite... while I can somehow tolerate the blurry image from composite, it is a headache in the long run).
Mh friend please i need your advice... What should i get for my MVS/SUPERGUN the RETROTINK 5X PRO or the OSSC? Thanks in advance
This is on the list to buy. Looks nice. less tinkering. Does fast resolutions switching as well. downscaling is in alpha at your own risk with other stuff added to it.
-GBS-Control came out also. Id say is a newer Framemeister. since it isn't fpga based. It offers a bit of lag, prob less. I never noticed the Framemeister lag. does down scaling also if ur hooking up to a certain pvm.
-OSSC pro is coming out soon. IDK when. I bet it will be a killer product with lots of settings and inputs. I hope for easy profiles. I hear it will offer to play fpga cores on it. making nes and atari or something that doesn't offer rgb a bit better. You can still hook those consoles however you want thou, modded or not, i bet it will look sweet still. MiSTer would be better overall for cores.
-Another scalier coming, idk name or what it will offer.
Im still using the Framemeister for pretty much everything. My newer tv didn't have component and still have the wii hooked up to the framemiester.
OSSC, retro tink 2x and even the Framemeister if you still have it are grate options.
I think ill upgrade when i see one i like the most. I need something that changes resolutions better for saturn and 480p upscaled nicely.
I hope one day we get a nice 4k or even 8 k scalier. There was a artical about if there was a scalier for 8k it would be able to scale the pixles perfectly.
Question: I have a sega 32x hooked to a genesis model 1, do I need a retrotink, rgb scart, & HD retrovision cables? Thanks
One thing worth considering is the RGB mod for N64. Its much cheaper than the HDMI mod, and when combined with the RetroTink 5X-Pro it makes for great results. I would say overall that option is more cost effective and yields equal result to the HDMI or really close to it.
For DreamCast, Retro-Access and Retro Gaming Cables makes a SCART cable with switch on it to be able to play games in RGB and VGA modes, makes for great results as well with the RetroTink.
Hi John, is the 5X able to do good CRT masking effects for retor games compared to the 4K?
Thanks for this video John! The RetroTINK 5X Pro looks definetly promising! What capture card are you using?
El gato HD60
Hello!
Do you have an Amstrad CPC to test on the RetroTINK 5X Pro?
The CPC as diferent resolutions and some game just dont output any image on the OSSC, and the crack part ussually also gives a black image on OSSC, if you have a CPC and can test it let me know.
Nope, I don’t have an Amstrad CPC.
I know these upscalers are kind of esoteric but damn I wish they all weren't so obscenely expensive. If it was half the price I'd get it in a heartbeat.
Would like to see how this compares to the obscure pro when it comes out
No RF in on the Tink for the Oddesey, Intellivision, Atari,... right?😀 nevertheless, i looove these videos where you show off your beautiful, huge collection. Very smart to start with newer gen! Wheel in the younger crowd first, and then blow them away with old school 🤘🤘🤘🤘haha
You'd probably be well served by a RF demodulator into the composite input of the Retrotink 5x when using super old school machines like that.
Probably no one sane will use rf
Nice! Now you need to check that Intellivision via component as I'm waiting to hear if that works. It does through a Tink2x so I would imagine it does on the 5x as well.
It works! I tested it but wanted to show unmodified consoles in this.
@@johnhancockretro Excellent! Excellent to hear! I now need to find someone with a Tink5x that I can test my new RGB boards with. Thanks for letting me know on the YUV output!
What...no Color Computer with artifact colors...lol. Great video! Now if I can just find a retrotink 5xPro in stock.
I bought my gamecube just for Rouge Leader as well
You’re missing out on a ton of other great games. At the least, play Super Monkey Ball.
Which is the best version of Super Street Fighter Turbo 2 to play THXX
Will this gizmo fix the ps2 sound issues (distortion/crackling)?
what cables did you use to connect the jaguar to retrotink5x?
I’m wondering if this handles upscale better than the Wii U or the backwards compatible ps3
Wondering if gorgeous (but lower resolution) games player on the GameCube + Gameboy Player, can be edge-smoothed/curved to look a little bit more like hand drawn modern 2d, like:
Yoshi’s Island Advance
Super Mario Advance 2
Rayman 3
Zelda : Minish Cap
?
I would really to have a comparison of the retrotink 5x vs some of the more expensive mid like UltraHDMI, DCHdmi and Ps1Digital.
Hey John,
What would you say is the best way/set up to play a N64?
Just got the console and some games. Didn't hold up on new HD TV.
Any wise shared would be greatly appericated.
Did you watch this video I did? It really depends on what your budget can be along with availability ua-cam.com/video/ZcDgOUa4pjw/v-deo.html
Hey mate, could you help me out please? I connected the Retrotink 5x pro correctly with the AV adaptor to a PAL PS2 + 4K HDMI TV. I switch to 1080p resolution on the device with RR Type 4 running on the PS2 and looking like complete trash. Like no improvement AT ALL. What could be the issue? Could component cables be the solution? Idk cause I believe something's wrong. Do you have an idea? :(
No idea, I would contact Retrotink themselves.
My favorite console is the ps2. Do ps2 games look better on native hardware with the 5x or does it look better on bc ps3 with the upscaling that the ps3 uses?
I want to know how ps2 games look from a backwards compatible ps3 with a m classic.
I'm just here sitting and waiting for a restock.
I love my retrotink 2x pro, use it with my snes n64 and ps2. I wonder if the 5x is worth getting? Is the picture quality that much different?
will depend on your tv. if your tv's max display is 720p then, no. if your tv displays 1080p or higher then, yes. plus the 5x has better polygon smoothing options.
@@davidtran9444 thanks for replying! Yes i recently went with the 4K tv. I’m thinking it’s worth it.
Check out retro rgbs youtube chanel for a more in depth examination of the 5x
The footage looks great with the retro think 5x 👌
Amazing range of consoles. I think the 5x is the best way to hook up and play unmodded consoles. Yes, it is expensive but who really needs two kidneys, right?
Do you think adding mclassic to ps1/ps2 will look better? (i mean retrotink 5x and mclassic at the same time)
It depends on the game. I think certain 3D games do, but 2d sprite games not so much
Great Video !!! what is the capture card that you were using for this video??
El gato hd60
@@johnhancockretro thank you!!!!!
i seem to be the odd man out here . But i think the cleaner the out put on old 8 and 16 bit systems..and higher the resolution the worse they look .. the pixels get unbearably chunky. I have found that going composite to retro tink then into an HD-CRT with HDPT turned on gives best of both worlds. smooth pixels ... way closer to how you remember them from back in the day but also no visible scanlines and no lag.
What about classic consoles such as Atari 2600,5200,7800, Colecovision? Do we need to modify these if we want to play them on modern TV's?
You don’t have to, but will not look great.
Unmodified, you will likely need to purchase an RF Demodulator which will turn the RF signal into Composite to use them with the Retrotink 5x
Great video, definitely made me interested. Poor N64 though. Can you tell us what affordable device will hook an N64 up to HDMI TVs?
There are several hdmi cables on the market for N64.
Those component cables confuse the hell out of me. So u need them AND the retrotink?
Retrotink is an FPGA upscaler so it can receive AV, S-video, and Component inputs from nearly any game device. What’s confusing about it?
i have the (e.o.n 64 ) on my n64 and i have the e.o.n hdmi one on my game cube, with the M classic. those are the only older consoles i have.do you think i need the 5x?
If you have those, I think you are good.
@@johnhancockretro ok thanks, there is so many choices out there, its hard to tell a diffrence on my small phone screen
ps2 chapter icon is the xbox halo edition??
Actually the NUON is kinda the jaguar 2., cause was made by the same creators of the jaguar., also the NUON is not only a dvd that can play videogames., is a technology alternative to the DVD itself., was a format that competed against DVD and lost., and had the same idea than the 3DO, meaning sell the license to companies to make their own nuon
Yep, know the backstory. Was a frequent visitor to Nuon-Dome for info.
Really, no Pippin, one of the greatest classic gaming systems?
That scart port looks kinda chunky
What cable were you using for the OG Xbox???
Monster component
Smash Bros Brawl looks sweet!
This much better than OSSC? I have a Wii but is much expensive for me. I from Brazil
Can you test an Atari 2600? Games like spider man are really finicky with my retrotink 2x.
+1 I am only able to use an original retrotink (pre-2x) with my Atari 2600. Nothing else works well. I am curious if the 5x has any magic for the 2600
I just watched another video of someone using the 5x on an Atari 7800 which played both the 2600 + 7800 titles. Might be worth switching to one of those.
Can you imagine asking your parents for a game boy getting a portable CDI instead
How much does it cost and where did you get it at ?
Link in description, $275
There's an actual Retrotink website
Its currently sold out. More stock is coming around june/july.
You forgot the Gameboy 😭
You totally forgot about the ps1
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Guys, my quest for a 4k TV with component female ports continues.
Simply becaus ei have Psyclone Component Cables for PS2
and the uber rare & expensive Green Xbox Component cables
(not to be confused with the cheaper $40 ones that also work on the Xbox360)
These Green ones ar ethe ones that were $140 @ Circuit City when Xbox Lquanched.
I tracked em down a couple years ago only for my Xbox to be busted from moisture basement damage. ugh.
~~FU Goodwill for being greedy with ur lame ebay store.
No Ps 1? :(
I have to be honest. The output doesn’t look good for a $300 device. To make a point of its benefits an a/b comparison with something looking worse would probably be worthwhile.
The device is amazing and a game changer for capturing footage.
@@johnhancockretro totally agree for capture. But for sitting down and playing it’s a hard sell at the current price. This looks and performs like a sub 100$ product. The color fringing on some of the examples was glaring. The N64 output was pretty bad - but maybe that’s as good as it gets for that one. I’d really recommend doing testing with the simplest cabling possible and with the best signal out possible for some of the systems where you’ve used something else. Such as trying RGB scart for SNES, Genesis, PS1 and PS2. Even an Amiga (your CDTV) using RGB output.
I strongly suspect there’s a cash grab happening in the hobby due to a vacuum-like situation and lack of options. Story might be different if OSSC pro weren’t complete vaporware.
@@espressomatic This is not a sub $100 product. I have had several devices help me capture and this is the best out there right now. You want in depth coverage of this go check out Retro RGB/My Life in Gaming. This product has been universally praised and does great things for retro consoles and computers. The price of the product is high but dont let that fool you into thinking this product isn't valuable. While not for everyone, this product is rock solid.
NES results seem slightly disappointing to me for some reason. Anyone else?
Remember it’s only composite.
@@johnhancockretro The device does about as much as it can with that kind of signal. There’s a reason composite Vs. S-video tends to be the dividing line between “eh” and “pretty good” for standard definition connections. I’d say the HUD looks pretty good in Castlevania, though.
Is as expensive as a Fraismeister.