#1 Deer Food Plot Ingredient
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Without this deer food plot ingredient in most locations, your food plot plantings can't possibly reach their potential for volume, nutrition or attraction. In fact in some cases your food plot will fail to grow without the #1 food plot ingredient: Lime. Without adding lime to your food plots and correcting the soil pH, your fertilization efforts are often a waste of both time and money. The first step in creating a great food plot is completing a soil test so that you can 1st correct the pH level of the soil, and then 2nd so that you can address fertility levels. While applying lime may seem like an incredibly boring subject, it is the first step in making sure that your deer food plots are on their way to success, and not failure. There are several ways to spread and apply lime into your soil, and you may be surprised how easy the process raising the pH on your soil can actually be.
Great video. My #1 rule for spreading lime is to use a high quality dust mask. I just spread some lime and fertilizer on my property in Manistee County, MI. I recommend having a soil test done in one's orchard too. Here's a tip for folks who have an orchard- we have planted winter rye (aka cereal rye or grain rye) along with white clover between the trees with good results.
Manistee is such a nice area! Holy crap. Morton salt is up there if not mistaken?
I saw a LOT of deer up there when visiting family. Good luck on your hunts.
Thanks Jeff! What about the fast acting lime that is sold in stores? It sells for 14 to 16 dollars a bag, is supposed to go to work immediately and each 40lb bag is equivalent to 160lbs of regular pelletized lime. It requires far less bulk when working in remote areas. No argument that pulverized lime is quick and cheap.
He is exactly right. I farm and I also plant food plots for hunt clubs in central NC. Often landowners/huntclubs have a fixed budget and want to spend their money on fertilize, but I advise them to invest their money in lime the first year. The plants won't even be able to fully utilize the fertilize until the pH is neutral. This is especially important if you're planting legumes. Lime is cheap and you can't put out too much. But good lord, find a tractor and spreader instead of doing it by hand. Thanks for the good advice.
I guess when it comes to lime I live in a good area with a limestone quarry about every 10 miles. I can get multiple types of ag lime from super fine like powder to really coarse from the local co-op for around $7.00 dollars a ton.
That is awesome! Perfect and I bet your food plots show it
That's awesome! What area are you from? We are lucky to have many rock quarries and coal mines nearby, but nothing like lime!
@@crissysmart I live in Eastern Iowa. Limestone quarries are very prevalent here.
Hmm, just the opposite here in Oklahoma. I have seen it too often, guys will watch these videos and lime a plot with a PH of 8 instead of adding what it needs, sulfur.
Adding like is more typical to I would guess, well over 90% of all food plot areas. Very rare to have to high...
Would taking a sample of dirt rinsed with RO/distilled water then tested with a PH pen be accurate?
It's shocking to hear my home town in your video. Escanaba Michigan, also deal with Mel's allot during deer season. Just thought it was really cool to hear that whole sentence in your video. Keep up the videos 👍
Our co op will drive a truck with a huge hopper and spreader to your property and spread lime for a fee
Granulated lime over hydrated lime !!!
Yet another awesome video! Particularly as I have followed your exact steps! Hopefully, I'll be rewarded w/ a decent plot this year.
Question for u, my plot is in NE Pa, gets pretty cold by mid Nov. Last year ground was rock hard by Dec 1. I planted brassicas w/ goal of helping herd get thru winter. But never saw evidence that deer took advantage of plots. Could be they were not familiar w/ turnips & sugar beets, but I lean more to they couldnt break thru ground. I planted again this year along w/oats that I was told should mature early fall. Open to ideas u have to encourage deer to feed.
Thx for all u put into these videos!!👍👍👍
Wow! You just keep cranking out the great videos. Thanks for the information and sharing your expertise. I can tell that you have leaned these lessons through actual experience and I agree with most all of your conclusions on whitetail management and hunting. Thank you for all your hard work.
You are very welcome TD...personal experience and those of my 900 clients around the country...a huge opportunity to learn about whitetails 😉 I learn on every parcel and try to bring it all to you guys!
The two limes you discussed are different chemically. Have a soil test performed first. It will tell you what type of lime to use (Calcium Carbonate lime or Dolomitic Lime) alone with how much to use. Too much lime can prevent plants from being able to access iron (Chlorosis- yellowing of leaves). Do not add lime based on the erroneous notion that "it can't hurt anything because it is natural."
Always follow a soil test 😉 The first step...
Does it matter if you get the barn lime or the garden lime
Thanks Jeff! great video
I found out over time to just leave a few acres stand during the harvest. It gets cleaned out every winter and just mow down whatever is still standing for next planting. Feed corn always produced. I have no faith at all with supplemental plots. Wasted a lot of time, money, fuel planting supplemental plots in my area. If anything, deer avoided the area. May be different in other area but in York Co., Pa.....doesn't work at all.
Love your videos you have a ton of knowledge and passion for Habitat and hunting. I'm not near this serious but really enjoy your information. I just had 7,000 lbs lime delivered northern Michigan see my lime video :)
Get the big lime truck in if able it was reasonable too :)
You keep adding to my knowledge in new areas. (soil ph)
I always find this information great! Good work, and very thorough explanations. Thanks. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks for giving me the simple math calculation 5 foot my 90 makes a lot of sense don't know if my back's going to agree with that but how old is old
Thank you. Great video. I rent 320 acres, of a pine plantation, in south GA, which is divided by a dish west to east. Breaking the property into North and south regions. Around the dish are hardwoods and lager pines, most of the rest of the property is full of 7-8 ft new pines: Q: can I create multiple small plots (long but 5 ft wide or so)between the short pines, and if I do, how much lime do I need.
Let us assume that this soil never has received lime, and before the pine there was more pine. There is also a lot of water half the year. Native vegetation does grow in the south and there is some greens , but mostly brown tall grass, in the North side. Unfortunately I am next to a huge dog hunting club, so the deer is smart and there is not a lot of it. If it feels to you like a waste of time, please feel free to say so. I am assessing if this is worth the effort and money.
Did you say $40 per ton? Where is a good place to buy the bag lime at a fair price?
Yes for sure...that was the cheapest I ever paid for it, but that's going back a long time. The best place I have found to be at various feed mills...certainly not a chain store. I had a semi deliver 10 tons of bagged lime to my garage before, and that was even better! But definitely a feed mill. I used to use Mels Lawn and Garden in Escanaba MI.
Can I put out lime after I planted 10 days ago?
I use 10-12 bags of hyd lime a month in my stalls for dairy cows. A year ago or so i cudnt fig out how i ran out so fast then i see a bunch of empty bags by the kids food plot lol
Ha, lol...pretty funny! Hey...got to have priorities Dan ☺️
Smart kid
Better be careful, things will start growing on your pants, ha
Definitely spot on about pH. I use pelletized lime and I'll apply it late March or early April. Lime is cheap relative to fertilizer so you can apply it abundantly without breaking the bank. Another way to boost pH is to do a controlled burn and till it in right away. I did a burn on a field that had about 6 inches of old thatch from native grasses planted over the years, and then immediately tilled the charred remains into the field thoroughly. I got a half point pH boost from 6 to 6.5. The more burned thatch and leaf clutter on the ground, the better the boost.
Great tips Johnny! Hey btw consider using fine grit or powdered lime...MUCH cheaper and actually works faster than pelletized lime 🙂
I've always known that powdered lime provides quicker results, but I have opted for pelletized because my time is limited and throwing it in the spreader has always been more convenient. Definitely will use powdered in the future, if and when my time permits.@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@@johnnyballgame7339 see...I used powdered due to time 😉 1000#s thru a PTO mounted cone spreader...even just opening the bag 1/2 way. HUGE time savings for me. I have a lot of clients who have gotten rid of their spreaders unless PTO mounted....just something to consider. Once I have bags to the field...takes less than a 1/2 hour by myself, to spread 2 tons. Maybe 20 minutes? Just paint the ground 🙂 Add a couple of helpers and you can spread 8 tons on 2 acres in less than an hour.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for making these videos!
What's the difference between barn lime and hydrated lime other than hydrated lime is way more expensive??
Hydrated lime is not what you want to buy...different than ag like. Here is a good article about the differences...gets kind of technical for my taste 🙂
www.lime.org/about-us/faqs/
You want dolomitic like...typically very fine or powdered. It is not caustic like other limes, and is consider "ag lime". Barn lime is AG lime...you want to find the cheapest form available by the ton. I used the fine grit barn lime for illustration purposes 🙂
Hydrated lime is dangerous for your eyes. The lime jeff uses is not.
Hydrated lime safety
Dermatitis can result from prolonged exposure and repeated skin contact and a risk of severe and permanent eye damage exists if hydrated lime comes in contact with the eyes. The product can cause burns in the presence of moisture and will cause irritation of the gastrointestinal tract when ingested.
Great video Jeff, just got my sample back with good news ph= 7.2 everything else tested "VH" my question is at $48 dollars for the test cost how often do you test every couple or three years good enough?
Hi Randy that is great to hear! I really like one the next year after first corrected...and then one every 3 years has worked for me well!
bowcrazy why u paying that much?!! Mine costs $12!
Can I spread my power lime then plant my seed immediately after or do I need to let the lime sit/work it in.
You sure can Henry...lime away 🙂
USE PELLET LIME N FERT THEN SPRAY ON PLOT START THEN PLOT BOOST
Use powdered...just a lot cheaper and more effective 😉 and faster. Fewer steps...proven. No gimmicks used on this channel 😉
Thanks for the help Jeff. I have a question for you. Can you add powdered lime or pell lime to a perennial plot like clover? Say my new clover plot needs 1 ton of lime this year can I add more next year without burning the plot?
I have a question maybe someone can help please. For the first time this year we are going to plant food plots. So as of now nothing has been killed off. My question is about the lime. Do we kill grass first then throw lime down. Or do we throw lime down now before we even start. That is of course if we need the lime. Soil test will be coming soon. Thank you
Have you ever tried applying soft rock phosphate with your lime? In my experience it greatly enhances the limes reaction with the soil. Using it with lime enhances sugar content of the crop which makes the deer prefer your crops to the neighbors. I grew up growing chemical free veggies to sell. We found the higher sugar content increases the plants disease resistance, reducing the need for chemicals.
No I haven't Nathan...have had GREAT results with applying lime, frequent crop rotations with food plot soil improving plantings of rye, buckwheat, clover and tillage radish...and fertilization.
Here is an article that followed the progress of my food plot in the oast...amazing results! So really adding so etching else just wouldn't be in the plans...or something I would have time for on a large scale.
www.whitetailhabitatsolutions.com/blog/whitetail-food-plot-success-on-poor-soils
Does the lime have to be disked in after?
It reacts more quickly in particle to particle reaction, but not necessarily - in particular on light soil. On hard clay for sure...
How long will the lime last once you have put down the correct amount. 1 year, 2 years, or 3 years?
Great question! That depends on the soil particle size/type of soil you have. Also the resistance that is built in your soil. Also the size grit of particle. Small particle, light sandy soul = fast reaction, shorter lasting. Heavy soil equals slower reaction to bonded soil particles (greater need for tillage), longer lasting lime.
For me personally I had a very bad situation in the UP of MI. Soil pH in the high 4s to low 5s, and soil recommendations up to 5 tons per acre. I had sandy loan soils so the lime reacted quickly (good particle to particle reaction) but after full correction I found I had to add 1 ton every 3 years to create consistency. Over 30 tons initially...over 30 tons for maintenance over an 8 year period on 8 acres.
I hope that helps! Every situation is different...
Whitetail Habitat Solutions thanks for the replies, is there a certain size bag or type of bag we need to use for the samples. yeah we have 2 plots that are sandy soils, a little loamy, but still brown in color. Then we have other plots that are wetter and very loamy. The soil is almost black. No sand, no clay just straight Loam. We will be doing multiple tests in almost all of our plots. We only have around 80 acres but there is a lot of diversity in the soil like I said some fields are Sandy some are Sandy loam and Some Are pure loam. The nice thing about our property is you can’t find a rock bigger than a quarter in any of our fields. But the neighbors properties have rocks the size of basketballs baseballs everywhere in the fields. It’s nice not having to deal with rocks.
Thanks again for the reply
If you have the time you could take a look at some of the food plot videos I have put out over the past 2 years. We have had good luck with our soil so far, with no lime or fertilizer, but we are going to do it right this year. We probably won’t need to add much in some of the plots but I know some areas that will need some, because the results we had were not 100% and I know it has to be the ph.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 well you are very welcome and NO ROCKS is a very good thing! Sounds like a lot of fun work, and those tests will help you so much. Always follow the soil tests. There are so many fads and gimmicks out there to help you grow your plots. That soil test will be your number one guide...and it certainly is no gimmick 😉 enjoy the plots this year!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 incredible
You mentioned Land Pride, do they make a spreader that you can use powdered lime?
Great info Jeff, I always heard the pelletized lime worked better and faster. Thanks for clearing that up
I've heard that for years too, lol. And you are very welcome!!
Finer has a faster absorption...
@@benpena2832 definitely!
Excellent info. A truckload (24 tonnes) of cal lime cost $83 an acre spread as of 2024.I put up a short video spreading it this year. A ton of bagged Waukesha cal lime like Jeff spreads here is $217. The calc Jeff give here of 500sqft per bag being 2 tons is very helpful!
Excellent vids and a real nice guy too
Escanaba in da moonlight!
Great vid Jeff. Thank you!
You are very welcome!
Best advice on buying lime? How much should I be paying for a 50lb bag? I have about 5 acres of food plots to lime. I am going to use powder lime bc I just spent all my money on the land. Lol
Hey Jeff @whitetail habitat solutions you told me if food is high bucks are low. So I have that on my hunting property food plot is up on top so how to hunt that without being on foodplot. Should I slip over the ridge 20 yards or so and place a stand. HELP HELP HELP
I get my lime from the quarry. It’s guaranteed 50% ECCE but I tested it and it is around 68%. Some granulated material but @ 85% powder $8.50/ ton plus how ever your gona haul it. I got a wheat truck.
Great video I agree 100%
Do you use any bio stimulants? Ex. Air 8 ,RGS,humic acid. On my residential lawn I follow Lawn Care Nut website schedule. I take a soil test first and send away.
There is a pelletised lime that will cost more to buy per kilo than powder, but you need apply less of it. So in effect, it works out cheaper. That's something to consider, also.
Man I'm sorry...but that is simply not true. Pelletized line is powdered lime, put into a pellet form that breaks down with moisture. It is no different than pelletized kookaid... instead of powdered. I'm fact, pelletized lime actually reacts with soil less quickly than powdered lime unless disced or tilled into the soil.
Lime reacts with soil, particle to particle. The smaller the partial size, the faster the reaction. Imagine chunks of koolaide vs powdered. Powder would dissolve in water immediately...chunks need to be stirred.
Anyways...a common misconception. Lime and reaction is based on tons. If 2 tons is needed...you can't make up for that by changing the form of lime. No different than changing the form of koolaide. You still need the same amount of koolaide to make the same strength drink.
Pelletized lime is made purely for spreading more easily thru hand and small spreaders. which is why it costs more. You are better off buying a bag of powdered lime, opening the bag and spreading it by hand...than paying as much as 3 1/2 times more to buy pelletized powdered lime.
Again a common misconception...so don't swallow the koolaide 😁
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Why don't people ever listen, SMH
6:03 their goes the bag!!! Lol
Can you spread lime after your food plot has started to grow?
"The time to lime is any time" ☺️
Whitetail Habitat Solutions thanks
Hey they're have a question.. our soil was tested in several spots and the results were all the same saying ph was 6.5.. question is do I still put lime down or no
I’m in north central Alabama. Whenever you see “sage grass” (Little bluestem bunch grass) growing, it’s indicative that you need 2 ton per acre of lime. It’s native grass that grows in lime deficient soil where I live. I’ve only learned about switchgrass through your videos and hope to find a variety I can grow on my property. Do you use lime when planting switchgrass?
Very good. Completely understand. It's good to have a mentor like yourself that is willing to share a plan that works. Thank you.
Respirable crystalline silica liberated from Lime can cause silicosis, a fibrosis (scarring) of the lungs. If you spread it like this you need to wear a respirator as an added precaution even when outdoors.
Watching you spread that lime by hand almost made me sneeze lol. Isn’t that stuff hard on your skin and to breathe?
Jeff I was wondering after I spread my lime should I lightly til in?
Hey jeff trying to work out scheduling with miss dianne to get you out to our place as far as liming have you heard anything about that liquid bio calcium spray for p.h correction and if so what are your thoughts? they claim its faster on changing the p.h
Great idea yeah I know the diff great video brother thanks I’ll try it GOD BLESS.
Great to hear Randle! Have a blessed Easter Sunday my friend 🙏
Whitetail Habitat Solutions you and your family to brother. Wish we lived closer we’d get out and do something. I like one more turkey having my limit brother I’m goin to get him this week LORD WILLING AMEN. Then start on the hogs. GOD BLESS.
Does Lime affect Switch Grass? And how?
Will powdered lime work in a PTO mounted cone spreader?
It sure will Johnny...I put about 35 tons thru mine ☺️ BUT...it has to be dry!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks I'll give it a try this Spring.
So great to see a man find a daunting task and just DO IT.
where can you buy 1 ton of pelletized lime for $150 ??
Hi Jeff, my soil test came back at 5.2 in ph. Would you lime for new switchgrass as well as where food plots are going?
If you’ve already planted your food plot for the summer is it OK to put the powdered lime on top of the food plot
Channel is awesome. Where do u buy your lime?
Lime dust vs lime pellets
Pellets are just lime dust put into a pellet form. Nearly the same thing but pellets spread thru a spreader much easier. Pellets have a bonding agent that breaks down with moisture. If you have a way to spread powdered lime buy it...much, much cheaper.
Check this lime video out...
ua-cam.com/video/DjUFzOKwTfg/v-deo.html
Will lime help with sage grass I heard it would help kill it out. We’ve got plenty of sage grass here
Hi Randle, it may a little? Sage grows in some very poor soil so some plants like ferns for example, show a lot less growth when pH levels are improved
Whitetail Habitat Solutions sage grass has taken over here the soils mainly clay here.
@@randlerichardson5826 have you tried killing it?
Whitetail Habitat Solutions there’s prob 30 plus acres of field maybe little more and lots of sage grass. How would I kill it out brother. If we burn it it just comes back.
We have the opposite problem in Southeast Michigan by me, most soils I’ve come across are too alkaline and require elemental sulfer to correct the ph.
Jeff Stergis yep right dare at da beginin. Ok your intro is just fine...lol . I needed this video bigtime. Wish I could ball park the cist oer acre. Too many variables I suppose. Im taking soil samples here in a few days . Mi State seems expensive state of Mi not so much. I think we will end up with 2-3 acres of plots. Id like to do more , we shal see. I wish you were still in MI , Im sure you have plenty of help but if your in my neck of the woods Id love to voluteer to help you if needed. I do have some equipment ( 🚜 ) a few implements collecting more every month. im in SE MI and can travel a couple hrs or more
Hi Mike that is great to hear! The tests are worth it and hey, hopefully they tell you don't have to use lime ☺️ Always the best result!
I really appreciate that Mike! I have s couple of helpers, but really my schedule is so tight I never know ahead of time when j get to work ☺️ Really nice offer tho. I'm about 5/6 hours from southern MI.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 if anything comes up in Mi and your in a pinch holler 313 556 6650 👍
@@Just_in_time_outdoors thanks Mike, really appreciate that!
Hey buddy where you at these days
@@suzmell1 busy...lol
Hey brother I got turkey number 3 yesterday. One more to go here in TN.
Wow Randle...that's awesome! Congrats buddy!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions thanks brother. It’s been bout 4-5 years since I’ve limited out. I thank I can this year. There’s 3 gobblers on my lease I’m goin over there in the morn. I’m taking my 8 year old nephew Saturday to see if I can call him one in. I’d like to see him get one of them. LORD WILLING AMEN he will. I’m goin to do my best to call him one in. I pray you and your family had a blessed Easter Amen.
@@randlerichardson5826 that's awesome to hear....bet your nephew has a good teacher 😉 We had a great one and I hope that you did too!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions yes sir I did brother. He’s dead now but he taught me all I know. My dad was the best at whatever he done. He never cut corners he done it right or he didn’t do it. That’s the way I am or try to be. My nephew is hard headed lollllllllll but I guess I am to sometimes but he listens to me most of the time. GOD BLESS.
Would a liquid lime like cal flo be easier/cheaper?
I got a 50yard by 50yard area how much do you need
Is this barn lime? Or something else
What is the ideal PH level for food plots?
Thanks Jeff; I measured my PH level at my lease and was pleasantly surprised that it ranged between 6.5 to 7; so would adding lime be necessary?
You are welcome and that is great Ben! Hey curious, did you send it in as a soil sample? Those soil probes aren't always very accurate...just wanted to make sure in case you were using one.
Yes... I used a soil probe...
@@benpena2832 Not saying it is wrong...but most say around 6.5. Mine said 6.5 when they were high 4s low 5s. I would make sure you send a sample in just to make sure. Would be cool to hear back from you if you do!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions you bet. I will send off and find out and let you know...
@@benpena2832 very cool ..thanks Ben! I'm hoping it shows the same for you...they would be outstanding
Lime is not always the answer for Ph issues. There’s different minerals/nutrients that will effect the Ph..... you can damage the soil by just adding Lime without knowing your nutrient levels .
I’m I a lawn/tree and shrub care professional.
Yes wear a respirator
If lime isn't the answer for PH levels.....WHAT IS the answer ?
Thank you for this video this is the video I needed this has showed me some of the stuff of done wrong and helped me realize how I can fix it I thought that add a bunch of fertilizer was going to fix my problem but a soil sample and lime was what I was missing thank you again
You are so welcome Rob! Great to hear. Thanks a lot for all of the comments Rob! Make sure to follow those samples, they will lead you to a lot of success
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I definitely will follow them also im only going to hunt the right weather at the plots ato I increase my odds thanks again for all the good info
@@robclinejr4085 sounds great Rob, have a Happy Easter! You are also very welcome...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 you also have a happy easter
@@robclinejr4085 thanks Rob!
Have you ever put lime on top of snow?
do you have to water the powdered lime ?
Smart. Keeping it simple.
Can you apply too much lime
awesome advice!!
Thank you very much!
Ok wear a mask got it.
Did you incorporate the powder lime into the soil or just leave on top?
Many times in the past I left the lime on top ..light drag, sometimes tilled into soil. A light, spiked tooth harrow is all you need...
so I work at a concrete plant. is the lime used there safe to put on my food plot? I can get it cheap.
Yes same stuff. Might check to ensure it is tested for no trees of bad stuff like lead. Lime packaged for soil ph amendment has been tested and will indicate suitable for soil amendment
Carful getting lime in your eyes. It can make you blind. I head from local seed salesman.
Boy I think I've proven that to be false over the past 20 years, lol. I actually have never heard that before. That could be very true for caustic, non-dolomitic lime? Definitely use dolomitic...which I believe is is what most bagged lime is...most food plot lime sales. Something I will definitely look into!
Here is a good quote - "Eye contact: Acute - Dust particles can scratch the eye causing tearing, redness, a stinging or burning feeling, or swelling of the eyes with blurred vision. Chronic - no known effects."
Good read on the: SAFETY DATA SHEET Limestone and Dolomite - National Lime & Stone
PDF natlime.com›uploads›2019/01
Thanks for the comment!
Hey Jeff guess not necessary to wear a mask some people I’ve spoken with say it could harm you I don’t know different strokes different folks lol great to see you banging out all these informative videos don’t know how you find the time anyway happy Easter to you guys see ya soon
@@suzmell1 like I said in the video I would use a mask...I was just spreading 100#s for an example, probably should have used a mask 😉 This is not caustic like...
Sorry Jeff lack of coffee you did suggest to wear a mask when spreading lime didn’t mean to bother you with dopey questions that had I been paying more attention would have seen & HEARD you covered
RESPIRATOR!!!!!!
Good video!
Great info ....I need LIME!!!
Ha...got lime? Lol...thank you! It will help you greatly...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I'm in southern Ohio and starting up some plots that have been weeds for 10 years...good bottom ground though
@@jerimahjohnson8698 sounds like great ground!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 oh I think it is...maybe will be hemp there someday$$$$$
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 also cutting 61 acres of timber next week
Thanks
Have you tried the new liquid lime, bio lime I think they call it?
Hi Bruce that has been around for a long time. It still takes particle to particle...tonnage of particle. Liquid reacts but loses its effectiveness quickly. Great for a jumpstart but absolutely not a long term solution. Hope that makes sense! I was instructed early 2000s not to use it by my county extension agent and he explained why. I found the soil reacted very quickly with powdered lime...
I keep trying to tell my hunting partner in our lease about lyme but he will not believe me. So frustrating
So just add it yourself
Love these videos...they are super helpful. Question...should you put down your lime before or after you spray? Does is matter?
Thanks a lot Chad! The cool thing is..."the time to lime is any time". Or at least that's what it said on the bags of lime I used to use. As soon as possible...is another thought. Doesn't matter as to spraying timing, planting etc...other the sooner the better.
Most souls are alkaline. What a crock this video is
Maybe in your area but you can't speak for everyone. Around here most soil is somewhere in the 4.5-6.0 range
That's why it's important to do soil samples like he mentions
if you know so much then share with us all of your knowledge in video format
Not true. Most soil where I live has a very low ph and requires lots of lime to neutralize and provide a good planting bed.
You don't know what you are talking about
Great video! I am in a similar situation as your U.P. Property. Need lots of lime to raise my PH from 5.4 to 6.5+. Is barn lime different than dolomitic lime. Seems there is different types of lime with barn lime being the cheapest. I definitely need lots of lime! Pretty sure you’re way of cutting open and spreading it bag by bag will be the way I have to do it!
David thank you! Fine grit or powdered barn lime is AG lime...it is dolomitic lime. Great for using to raise your pH. I've found with a couple of helpers to help you distribute the bags and spread, just opening the bag and painting the ground can be just about as fast as any other method, outside of a PTO mounted cone spreader...
Thank you for your reply! Time to get my friends together for a weekend up north 😉❗️
@@deercamp3479 ha, sounds like a good time! Really, 4 buddies 8 tons of lime on 2 acres with bags already in piles around the plot I think you can spread in an hour or less. That's with a couple of short breaks 🙂 Have fun!
@@deercamp3479 hey David...hope you like today's vid too!
I guess that’s going to be the plan! Thanks for your help! By the way love today’s video! The habitat planning videos are my favorite. Love the specific examples! Keep those coming as much as you can . Learn something from each one for sure! Happy Easter!😉
Can you add lime to a food plot that is already growing
You sure can Jeremy...any time!itetally it said on the bags if like I used to apply (65 tons worth of 50# bags), "The time to lime is any time"...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 awesome thank you!! Happy Easter to you and your family!!
@@jeremycasper5181 You are welcome Jeremy Happy Easter to you too!
I saw one of your comments about winter rye. I seeded in some cereal rye and you described what happened to mine. Come up healthy, turned red then yellow then died. My ph was 5 when I soil tested. Wasted about 150lbs of expensive 00-20-20 on it. I’ve not got 2800 lbs of pelletized lime sitting on a pallet ready to be spread in if it ever stops raining. It’s .45 of an acre. The recommended amount 8250 per acre. I plan to put 2 tons on it.
I do not spread lime, I’m in some of the best ground in the world, never had an issue growing anything
Jeff,
Great comments on the liming, many folks ignore this step and don't receive the full benefits of their fertilizers.
Home recovering from the surgery. I sent you an email with some questions I had after your visit...need some answers soon if possible.
thanks, Bob
Hi Bob, great to hear you are OK! In some cases I've experienced that when pH levels are too low, that plants can't even grow. Will take a look at your questions soon...hey the good thing is, NO SUMMER food plots on your land ☺️ Although maybe some corn. Saw your email...had a long day with family in town yesterday.
Thanks for the reply, and ALL the continued GREAT information!!!!!
@@rfb7117 you are very welcome Bob!
So in my case I have Sandy Clay pumped from the Mississippi River! My ph level is low. I just finished spreading lime... (mostly sand). I’m hoping that it helps??” I also used 13,13,13 witch I know nothing about??? This is the first time I’ve ever did anything like this!! Is their anything I should be looking for or to watch out for?????? #first timer 🤓
Drake, your pH should change quickly with sandy soil...that's a good thing. With the 13-13-13 you want to make sure you apply at the time of planting. That first number is Nitrogen, which is used up quickly! So if plants are not there to use it up, it will just lay there and dissolve into the air, or will be used by other plants/weeds.
Great to hear you are getting a good start to this year!! Really nice ☺️
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 when you apply lime at planting to do lightly disc the top or anything or just spread seed and lime on top which would be ground contact