Disc Golf Footwork Made Simple | Backhand Footwork

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
  • We've done an in depth video on footwork before going step by step ( • The Disc Golf Walk Up ... ), but today we want to break it down into more manageable pieces to make it easier to think through and, hopefully, execute. This video should be used to give you general mental cues as you learn the walkup.
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:25 - The Two Parts of the Walkup
    3:00 - The Stagger
    4:25 - Back Leg Load
    5:50 - Recap and no nos
    7:00 - Outro
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  • @natebell4764
    @natebell4764 2 роки тому +9

    I needed this "explain it like I'm 5" footwork video. It has been the toughest thing for me to get down.

  • @maxray29
    @maxray29 2 роки тому +25

    the final step being a side step is breaking my brain right now! it looks so obvious when you demonstrate it, but for the longest time i've been 'aiming' at a spot on the ground to land that final step, like it has to be 'on the train tracks' or i have to force it to be perfectly staggered. i have to imagine this concept translates a little bit to release point and aiming as well, at least in the sense that the final step kind of triggers the upper body to start its part of the throw; if that step is wrong, it would be very hard to get the release correct. i love that you are breaking down a relatively complex activity into its component parts and simplifying each; high quality coaching content!

  • @dennismoniz7384
    @dennismoniz7384 2 роки тому +12

    i feel like you're really good at addressing the 'why' of things better than most videos. there's tons of tutorials that hit the what's and when's, but if i don't know why then how the hell am i supposed to know the reason for doing it?

  • @briantraughber5821
    @briantraughber5821 2 роки тому +5

    This has literally made things so much simpler to understand about the movement. Thank you!

  • @markhumphrey8894
    @markhumphrey8894 9 місяців тому

    Ha. An Aha moment. 3:25. That's me. Turning hips before my front foot lands. If you just stay parallel with the back foot, the front foot will be square to your target and your hips will not have turned forward too early. Don't point the back foot to far out.
    at 4:50 the 2 step process looks like rounding and apparently that's what I've been doing for years.
    Thanks a ton Josh!

  • @chandlerrogers7300
    @chandlerrogers7300 2 роки тому +3

    Opening my hips during the walk has been a problem for me but I hadn't seen it explained so clearly anywhere else. Now that I have some idea how to fix it all I have to do is overcome muscle memory, oh well. Thanks guys.

  • @curranwiggins1765
    @curranwiggins1765 2 роки тому

    You are a great teacher. Thank you for breaking everything down in such a simple way!

  • @dillertheskiller7550
    @dillertheskiller7550 2 роки тому

    Best coaching on UA-cam thank you so much Overthrow Disc golf!

  • @jeffgood1580
    @jeffgood1580 Рік тому

    This is the most helpful video I’ve seen and I’ve watched ALL THE VIDEOS. Thank you so much

  • @MaximilianBerkmann
    @MaximilianBerkmann 2 роки тому

    Great video and lovely ending of the intro by Mickey.

  • @calebtennison9353
    @calebtennison9353 2 роки тому +5

    Bless you, your family and this freaking video. ✨🤙🏻 Also: “Drop.”

  • @JohnDubU
    @JohnDubU Рік тому

    Dude, much appreciated. I was practicing drives yesterday and I think I see why I had the results I did. After this winter storm clears, I'll give this a shot. Big smash for you.

  • @Nexieee
    @Nexieee 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! As many others already said, this is the first video that really adressed what i do wrong and why i do wrong. And it made me sooo extra pumped for this offseason because now i finaly know what to work on. I have always known that i do something wrong that makes me not utilize my hips rotation, but now i know what i do wrong and im so thankful for that. And as some before me wrote, you guys break it down in a way that other coaches doesnt do. They can tell you whats wrong, but not how to correct it, you do

  • @kj33wr
    @kj33wr 2 роки тому

    Been working on my backhand footwork and now realize I’ve been over rotating too far just like you’re not supposed to do 🤪 this is fantastic! I think the biggest mind blowing moment is it’s a simple straight karaoke step. Thanks brother.

  • @rosscollier5696
    @rosscollier5696 2 роки тому

    brother thank you so much for this video. Ive been having a really hard time without work and as a bi-product aiming. This was very helpful and im excited to put it into practice in field work . :,D

  • @danielgiordano3238
    @danielgiordano3238 2 роки тому

    VERY helpful! Thank you guys!

  • @neilrankin4133
    @neilrankin4133 2 роки тому

    Great stuff. Thank you.

  • @andrewmauroner4283
    @andrewmauroner4283 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for addressing "2 part" walk-up! I've definitely been doing that and was wondering how to describe what felt wrong.

  • @balance_dg
    @balance_dg 2 роки тому +1

    Footwork makes the DreamWork 💣

  • @steveackerman5066
    @steveackerman5066 2 роки тому

    That was a great video for me because when I throw lefty, I notice that I over rotate and it leads me to being off line and it makes me pull. I’m getting better at not turning all the way around and I’m doing a sidestep when I throw righty. Thank you very much for this video, I’m going to pass it along to my buddy who is just starting out. You guys rock!

  • @MrHardgabi
    @MrHardgabi 2 роки тому

    Easy money. So clear.

  • @JacobLikesMusic
    @JacobLikesMusic 2 роки тому

    I didn't get it from your first cross step video, but now I understand what I'm suppose to do with the walkup. We'll see if it's easy though.

  • @shadowdancenz
    @shadowdancenz 2 роки тому

    I have always been using left leg to do the first step and yes, it does cause over rotation. Using the right leg for the first step (my husband was watching me in the living room do this and knew instantly what was going on..lol) it did make a huge difference. And I do step aerobic so the grapevine will come naturally. Heck this could make a difference.

  • @maxk4311
    @maxk4311 2 роки тому

    my game just got better thank you OT DG

  • @JinGalactica
    @JinGalactica Рік тому

    My steps were always on a straight bee line this whole time, which in turn kills my loaded hips. I noticed that last weekend at the course. I wanted to chuck it at 500 ft, but only maxed to 440 no matter how much I tried. BUT, in the back of my head I always heard you keep your legs on their own lane the whole way. I saw Joel Freeman's latest video and his right food for his RHBH throw was stepped away pretty far. I tried that, and BOOM. Reached 500 but was way off target. Now I just need to work on accuracy.

  • @zachredding6211
    @zachredding6211 2 роки тому

    That karaoke comparison is so helpful with properly loading the hips

  • @pastorjer6877
    @pastorjer6877 2 роки тому

    I had no idea I was supposed to be stepping forward with my right forward first (as a righty) that feels more comfortable THANKS

  • @campitts9356
    @campitts9356 2 роки тому

    Love it. The last side step and get in a athlete stance was so helpful. It's basically moving sideways in a wrestling stance something I was already familiar with.

  • @jeffreydheere4737
    @jeffreydheere4737 2 роки тому

    Oooooohhhhhhhhh. OK. That makes a lot more sense. The part about the 5th step not taking you out of the plane of your shoulders and just being a side step. You create the angle differential (12 to 10 o'clock) with the third step, and from there the X step (#4) and brace step (#5) are a straight line in the 10 o'clock to the target line. Wow. I have no idea why that didn't click before.

  • @HaikesXO
    @HaikesXO 2 роки тому

    I was so guilty of going back. Like bad. Good video

  • @Vanbulance89
    @Vanbulance89 2 роки тому

    Top Tier Quantent Boys!!

  • @BruceSimmons
    @BruceSimmons 2 роки тому

    This is pretty hard to change to since my first few months I was mimicking other vids and doing everything wrong to achieve MAXIMUUUUM reach back (for that supposed speed/velocity/distance). Thanks for the break down... now... if I could unscrew the brain, hit that reset switch, and put it back in... sigh.

  • @danlewis1885
    @danlewis1885 Рік тому

    The X-Factor, the difference in rotation of the hips compared to the shoulders - has been taught in golf for decades. Great for power, not great for your back unless you have a really strong core. Even golfers with strong cores that have a large X-Factor have back problems later in their careers (some being significant). Generally if you do 45% hips and 90% shoulders as conventional golf instruction suggests, you should be fine ... once you start increasing the angle difference between the two you are increasing the risk of injury to your lower back. Food for thought.....

  • @UndereducatedAF
    @UndereducatedAF 2 роки тому +2

    *finds open space and gets into it*

  • @markhumphrey8894
    @markhumphrey8894 2 роки тому

    So you keep your weight back on your left leg and just slide forward? Love it. I'm definitely that guy with the splayed feet. Why do we do that? Maybe we are trying to throw to early and rushing the steps? It's hard not to open the hips early. Your explanation may correct the er of my ways!
    Thanks.

  • @samibberg105
    @samibberg105 2 роки тому

    I luuuv the earthly manner you explain things in! I think my weight has been too much on my front leg (right leg, rhbh) at the end… Got to go and test this out!

  • @BillFromAZ
    @BillFromAZ 2 роки тому

    Okay, this might be a bit long...so, let's get started.
    When I started throwing backhand, I took three steps. Right pointing slightly left, left cross behind, right foot planting. I was throwing decently....but, it was hit or miss. Then I saw this video and thought...hmm, sounds interesting...I'll give it a try, what would it hurt? After fieldwork and two rounds, I can't go back to a three step walk-up. I'm not sure how/why it makes a difference, but it makes my timing more consistent. A slight step forward with my right foot, left foot slightly forward and slightly turned to my left...then the rest of the steps like I used to do. Consistency and accuracy have improved. Thank you!

  • @timbower185
    @timbower185 2 роки тому

    Can I have this dance? Practicing footwork in a field with lines (or a parking lot) helper me see the angles of my feet, hips, shoulders, etc relative to the lines.

  • @JoshJackson13
    @JoshJackson13 Рік тому

    The further I stretch my last step the further I throw. I can feel my body coil when i do that. Especially if I reach back fast. I just don't have my good accuracy.

  • @michaelcichetti6070
    @michaelcichetti6070 2 роки тому

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @kleberdigby5298
    @kleberdigby5298 2 роки тому

    Thanks for reminding me not to turn my hips back to early! What's your opinion on having most of your weight on your plant leg/ or settling on your plant leg before beginning the pull through? I think your saying that it's not that but a dynamic motion of both a lateral shift coupled with the uncorking from the trailing side all at once correct? I may have that wrong lol and thanks for the awesome vid!

  • @Metamorphosisdude
    @Metamorphosisdude 2 роки тому +1

    Do you think the first 2 steps are necessary vs just starting with your side to the target? I'm thinking do the first steps contribute to power by themselves or are they just making it easier to hit the correct x-step angle?

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому +2

      Not necessary. I think Cory Ellis does a three step all the time right? Mostly momentum and alignment purposes

  • @Chris-qq2cu
    @Chris-qq2cu 2 роки тому

    ok so this was super helpful! everytime you take things ive heard for years and explain it in the way that it is finally clicking. However one thing im still confused on and mentally i know its messing me up but after watching this and your videos with people like simon and Drew, it is evident that the goal is 12 o clock, but hips, feet and release is 10 to 11 ish. So how does moving all force in the direction of 10 o clock get things to go straight at 12?

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому +1

      The only thing I’ve got for you on that is the disc doing the pivot. Other than that must be magic

    • @Chris-qq2cu
      @Chris-qq2cu 2 роки тому

      @@OverthrowDiscGolf I love it!

  • @JoshJackson13
    @JoshJackson13 Рік тому

    I don't know why I putt so much better when I get really low. Like stepping out and putting on touch of Annie. Squatting staggered

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  Рік тому

      Putting is a whole different story. Straddle that thing if it’s working

    • @JoshJackson13
      @JoshJackson13 Рік тому

      @@OverthrowDiscGolf yeah no more 15ft misses for me 🤣.

  • @teabone41
    @teabone41 2 роки тому

    I was today years old when I learned that the run up is more than 3 steps. Total game changer!

  • @tylerpohler3271
    @tylerpohler3271 2 роки тому +1

    Just an idea, But when I used to teach a lot of traditional golf I would use dog toys squeakers to give the student auditory feedback on transferring their weight / rhythm. I feel like it would be cool for you guys to do a rhythm video with that concept

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому +1

      Oh that is cool

    • @citizenzombie
      @citizenzombie Рік тому

      Apologies. I know this is an old comment. Could you explain how you use the squeakers?

    • @tylerpohler3271
      @tylerpohler3271 Рік тому +1

      @@citizenzombie sure, so assuming Josh agrees with this methodology, lots disc golfers will for example sometimes throw off their toe on their run up and it can be hard to break that habit, the squeakers would be great solution for that because u would have to wait for the weight to hit ur heel creating squeak noise and then u can really start to release the disc, I think it would be great for putting too because when people get tired I think the tendency is to putt of the back foot, hope that makes sense

    • @citizenzombie
      @citizenzombie Рік тому

      @@tylerpohler3271 Wow. Thanks Tyler! I actually always revert to putting off my back foot... not matter how much I try to remember not to. I'll be giving your squeakers a try.

  • @shiftonephoto
    @shiftonephoto 2 роки тому +1

    Am I screwing myself up that I only do 3 steps? I start sideways, and I also have the worst problem with a backward step😣

  • @Nickeeefy
    @Nickeeefy 2 роки тому

    Oh wait i might have doing it all wrong..
    So hips moves lateral and turning kinda at the same time?
    I thought the hips should move lateral while sidestepping down the right foot at the same time not after the foot is down, then the hips turning/opens from the built up energy from the xstep.

  • @jamessorenson1288
    @jamessorenson1288 2 роки тому

    Did you play Volleyball? I am learning disc golf but played and coached Volleyball. The way you explain the steps is similar to a 5 step hitting approach and you first referenced Volleyball serve recieve regarding an athletic stance. I have been wondering if there are other parallels. For instance how the Volleyball swing is a relaxed arm that generates speed like a whip. Backhand seems to be the same concept.

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому +1

      I do enjoy volleyball. Hard to say how good I am but I did have a nasty topspin serve. The arm being loose is super important though

  • @kimberlyleeds-cook8215
    @kimberlyleeds-cook8215 2 роки тому

    so I'm a RHBH thrower and whether mimicking pros or videos I've seen on YT, found myself doing a 4 step (starting or leading with my left). Is this totally incorrect? Will this cause an over rotation or cause to be "off line" to the target? And if so, what do you do/ or how do you fit in a 5 step walk up on short teepads or when teepads are broken up by elevation? TIA

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому +1

      You can do a 4 step. I think simon even does it during some of the footage we gathered with him. If you can start with that step and get lined up accurately go for it!

    • @Needled88
      @Needled88 2 роки тому +1

      Its even easier to go with 3 steps, makes aiming so much easier. Over 3 steps is imo useless, unless your going maxium distance and you can throw at least 400ft.

  • @samclark3417
    @samclark3417 2 роки тому

    1000th view 😎

  • @zaboogoosfraba6699
    @zaboogoosfraba6699 2 роки тому

    The basket you have there looks like the one I have. I have noticed that I am not as accurate as I am at the course. Is it in my head?

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому

      Probably

    • @WillEnj0y
      @WillEnj0y Рік тому

      Courses are more punishing than field work when you miss your line so it’s much more obvious when you make a mistake.

  • @andrewjohansen640
    @andrewjohansen640 2 роки тому

    I know this is a video about footwork, but you mentioned coiling shoulders, so I think this question is fair game: when you "coil" shoulders against hips on the backswing, should the thoracic spine be rotating, or is it more of a shoulder movement? TIA

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому

      I don’t know the difference between a normal spine and a thoratic spine. 😂 but the upper body as a unit could back together

    • @shawnkimball5019
      @shawnkimball5019 2 роки тому +2

      @@OverthrowDiscGolf This is a tough one to explain in words, but I can try. What the OP is asking about is whether a specific region of the spine is meant to rotate or whether active contraction of shoulder muscles is what causes the "coiling." The spine is anatomically divided into 4 regions: cervical (neck), thoracic (rib cage), lumbar (lower back), and sacral (connecting to and going down through the pelvis). I believe the answer to his question is that there is some rotation of the lumbar and thoracic spine and the initial "coiling" comes partly from that, instead of coming from forcing the shoulders toward each other. Having said that, initiation of the throw comes from reaching the back hand toward the leading leg's pocket and at that moment there is contraction of that shoulder forward and toward the other.

    • @andrewjohansen640
      @andrewjohansen640 2 роки тому

      @@shawnkimball5019 thanks for the reply, and I believe you are probably right. The reason I was wondering is due to the fact that, oftentimes, spinal movement bleeds torque and ruins force transfer (rotation in the spine during running is usually due to weak and tight hips and decreases efficiency). So, I wasn't sure if rotation actually ruins the bracing of the core. I would be curious to know of there is movement of the spine in other rotational movements (like tennis or baseball).

    • @shawnkimball5019
      @shawnkimball5019 2 роки тому +1

      @@andrewjohansen640 I think it'd be amazing to hook up pro players with sports physiologists and rig them up with sensors all over during a throw to really establish tension points, relaxation points, and muscle firing sequences.

  • @nowalt24
    @nowalt24 2 роки тому

    So what part of the body do you change to throw anhyzer or a hyzer shot??

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому

      Bending at the waist.

    • @nowalt24
      @nowalt24 2 роки тому

      @@OverthrowDiscGolf dang really? Have y’all made a video on this? I wasn’t able to find anything if so

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому +1

      @@nowalt24 we have. It’s called controlling backhand angles.

  • @chrism-zm8mr
    @chrism-zm8mr 2 роки тому

    Do you see a issue starting your walk to the side ? So right side facing the object

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому

      Depends. If it is a 5 step walk up to the side then it is going to be difficult to get lined up properly.

    • @chrism-zm8mr
      @chrism-zm8mr 2 роки тому

      @@OverthrowDiscGolf I only have a 3 step . Starting with my right foot , then small back x step plant front foot and release . I did start positioning my self straighter to start yesterday and did find a slight more hip engagement .

  • @williaminkley1587
    @williaminkley1587 2 роки тому

    Josh, has the 1 on 1 breakdowns of Drew and Simon changed your approach or just added to what you've been teaching for a while?

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому +1

      It hasn't changed much. The angle out of the power pocket is new for me though as you saw. I try to keep any changes public like we did here so that people know where my head is at

    • @williaminkley1587
      @williaminkley1587 2 роки тому

      Cheers. Heres to a winter of trying to build this form

  • @charleslowery1639
    @charleslowery1639 2 роки тому

    Can you demonstrate with a disc, I think there was a total of 5 steps in your footwork demonstration.

  • @ciromassa7322
    @ciromassa7322 2 роки тому

    Great Video! But from what I see from most pros is that there feet are definitely staggered . Not from a perspective view. I've heard many pro say to stagger you feet including Simon.

  • @octogintillion
    @octogintillion 2 роки тому

    Maybe you have a video on it already, but I would want how the footwork for shorter shots.

    • @Needled88
      @Needled88 2 роки тому

      Its always the same, you just slow down your steps. Lizotte or Mcbeth is a very good example.

  • @KGDiscGolf
    @KGDiscGolf 2 роки тому

    Recorded myself and I think this video was a massive light bulb for me.

  • @FaithfulMC
    @FaithfulMC 2 роки тому +1

    Idk if it's just me, but this video was very hard to understand. If there was a teepad or even a line drawn in the grass and you did the steps I could visualize what you're talking about

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  2 роки тому +1

      Sorry. We’ve got a video with that already though. The walk up step
      By step. It’s in the description

  • @Big-G-man85
    @Big-G-man85 Рік тому

    Are you pro? What makes you an expert? Just curious.

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  Рік тому +1

      There are currently no disc golf teaching experts by accolade

    • @Big-G-man85
      @Big-G-man85 Рік тому

      I was just thinking some people with bad or different form can throw mega far. There are a lot of tips out there and was wondering how they came up with this style. My form isn’t perfect but emulates the typical throw but my distance is lacking. Been playing with disc golf discs for around 20 yrs.

  • @echoli2859
    @echoli2859 2 роки тому

    I keep on telling myself throwing side ways ..

  • @jjw6961
    @jjw6961 2 роки тому

    Money

  • @alitabattlechicken9732
    @alitabattlechicken9732 2 роки тому

    I do not stand by in the presence of bad footwork

  • @jeremiahbabcock6787
    @jeremiahbabcock6787 3 місяці тому

    You need to do all the steps consecutively in the beginning. You lost me with the technical mechanics breakdown before even going through the full movement first

    • @OverthrowDiscGolf
      @OverthrowDiscGolf  3 місяці тому

      There is a backhand playlist that is very chronological

  • @twofifty6
    @twofifty6 2 роки тому

    Ok so triple ramp building, and cranking. Fortnite made simple. Got it!