@ 3:33 I mention doing 1 of 2 things then proceed to talk about only one… oops. The other thing is they will over compensate with the hand and pull it into a late release anhyzer.
Every single one of my approaches and never understood why its happening. You have given me hope that I may be able to get an approach close to the basket one day, thank you so much! Time to train :)
Suggestion: Throw the shot to start. Explain the parts of the breakdown. Throw the shot again after. It lets people relate the parts to the throw they saw already then be able to see/grasp more the second throw (or just even the replay of the same throw)
I have always defaulted to FH on approach shots, because BH approached never felt comfortable - mostly because I always tried to use my drive form, but standstill. I can already tell this video is gonna change a lot of things for me! Thanks for the awesome content!
I went through a period where my default was a forehand approach too, mainly because I would occasionally early release my backhand approach shots at THE worst times! 😩 But I’ve recently been trying to bring my backhand back in, because except when I released early, I was really accurate with it. Josh’s tips here will be helpful, I’m sure.
its so freaking cool all the form ideas ive learned on my own is completed by your deeper and simplier understanding. i call it a half moon shot when my body is in the way and it curves around the body for approaches and forehand shots.
I can’t believe I haven’t seen this taught before. I was definitely doing it 100% the wrong way before (like you demonstrated it) Can’t wait to try this in the field.
You can tell he is an incredible teacher by the fact he gave amazing advice about throwing nose down, by explaining how to throw nose up, and making a joke about it in the process. This is fantastic.
I've been playing for almost a year now and I have to say. I never thought about using a driver for certain approach shots. But it makes total sense especially for those skip shots. You guys have really opened up my mind on the course thanks y'all.
Thank you. This guide completely changed my game. learning and training approaches is my favorite part of discgolf right now! befor i spikehizered the soft berg, now i float the tui.. so much more versatile..
Thank you for this video. My approaches have always been the weakest part of my game so this video felt like it was directed right at me. I need to practice all these concepts, especially the throwing while facing the target
Excellent approach tutorial... I got an immediate "ah ha" moment that should fine-tune my approach game...THANK YOU. Please do more videos like this, especially when you "take it to the course" and provide examples.
this is so well done, it feels like cheating that we get to watch it for free! my approach miss is typically a grip-lock to the right, but visualizing playing catch with the basket has generally kept me close. i'm excited to incorporate the other tips described here to bring my approach game to the next level!
My disdain for the berg & this video’s thumbnail got me excited. Turns out it was a delightfully educational video and not a berg slandering video. Well played Over Throw team. Well played.
This concept is incredibly useful on wooded courses where you need to get through a small gap with some power (after shanking your drive into the trees). Disc-up to something a little understable and throw nose up.
This is SO HELPFUL. been early low and left on a lot of soft RHBH approaches recently. I was doin to much. Feeling like I had to do a short version of my stroke for drives.
To all the brilliant vids, this one I watched so many times😊 I had my first tournament last weekend and since my drives do not match 240m Par4 setups on a golf course my approach shots saved a lot Pars! I am using the Paradox and the Proxy and sometimes the Kapre. Better approaches reduce also anxiety in Putts😂
I met Mikey last year when he and Paul stopped at my course when filming the Holy shot. Was lucky enough to throw 9 with him. Turned me on to this channel. Great stuff!
I'm sooo greatfull you made this video! I always had too much excessive uncontrolled power, had no touch shots apart from spyke hyzers to control the distance 🤣 I can do 450ft standstills & it's very hard for me not to go long on anything less than 150-180ft 😬 Just tried this different grip now and it changes everything for me! Thank you so much! 👌🏼
This reminds me a bit of the OG closed-shoulder snap drill (I just watched it today so it's fresh in my mind). Specifically idea of removing the more powerful levers such as your hips and shoulder in order to gain that snap with mainly just one lever -- your wrist. I like that you also talk about how you line up differently on these approach shots vs. a tee shot. I tend to overcompensate and pull into a late release anhyzer. Lots of goodies in this video. Thanks for the great content as always
I really enjoy when you guys post this post like this because this kind of stuff really helps me think about my game. I would love to hear more about how you compensate for wind and when and where to throw understable versus overstable discs in relation to wind and elevation. That probably sounds goofy but like I really respect your guys's opinion and would love to see more of that. To that end I have to admit Josh, you have lost a crazy amount of weight and you look fantastic. Love to know what you did to pull that off off
Wow you are the expert on You Tube when it comes to disc golf. I see it is extremely popular as well. Enjoy watching you teach. However I will stick with regular golf Although from what I am learning from you. At 75 I will have some fun now tossing discs with my grandchildren at the beach. Cheers 😃⛳️👍🥂
Thank you for this. I was out practicing 150-200ft shots yesterday because that is one of the weakest parts of my game. I’m excited to go try this instead.
Been struggling with upshot’s. I’ve been doing the exact awkward power drive stance and going past basket or being pretty short. Felt like I was uncomfortable with upshot’s, being lost in the sauce of what to do with my arm out and side stance. Gonna try this out, great video. Thank you for the clarity and God Bless.
Follow-up comment: I thought 200' was a bit of a stretch for this shot, but I'm now hitting 180's on a gradual sloping uphill... and I'm a sissy-armed newb. Popping that wrist is so important like you said, focusing on that pop is really helping me dial in the distance/lines. This shot is literally a game-changer. Thanks again!
I can get a berg out between 220-235 but typically only use it inside 200’ because of wanting more control. I like the berg inside 150 for forehand approach.
Very timely video for me. I'm guilty of using tee pad form for approach shots, which turn out so awful I prefer to use a forehand. Definitely going to try this face on and wrist action. Question, I saw you throw the last tee pad shot 200'. What were the distances at 4:00 and 4:20 ?
Thanks for the great tutorial! What about if you need to make a reaaaally straight approach shot? How do you position yourself then and how does the throw go then?
I started stand still drives, and ended up using those same mechanics on approach shots and had mixed results depending on the shot. Without even applying what's on this video I can already tell it will help me significantly.
Too often did I find myself focusing on my form of driving and not on other aspects of the game. Practice these techniques and that nice approach shot will do miracles for you
As soon as you mentioned taking the disc out and away from you, I thought of Catrina Allen. Watched some FPO coverage this week and noticed it and now you mention it, so I guess I have to try it out :D
nice video thanks. do you think that going to the driver with ground play is better than an air bounce with the putter on the final low ceiling behind the tree? honest question.
Around what distance (or what should be our clue) do you think we should transition to reaching out more to add some more power? I was working on it today and didn't know if I needed to practice using the wrist more or if I needed to change to the "distance" approach shot
I would like to know more about the side swing. What does that accomplish? Seems like it would mess up the aim of your shot without adding anything. But then again I have no idea what I’m doing or talking about
It allows you to keep your eyes on where you’re throwing while getting a bit more of a swing. For approach shots we aren’t throwing fast enough for the out in out movement to derail the aiming of the hand.
I watched an instruction video that said to ALWAYS use a full backhand swing (like a drive) for approach shots. Ironically, therefore I've been using that (standing sideways to the target) even though I've had good results when trying a form closer to this video. The danger in listening to random videos - even when they can be persuasive at first.
I was wondering what I did with it when I saw the edit too. I imagine I put it back in the bag because I don’t normally throw with more than one disc in my off hand. Could have totally shanked it though 😂
Anything under 200ft I throw my Zone, Proxy or putter. I tried the Berg, I like it but my problem is it only really had one use throw but that throw I could easily cover with other discs that I bag that have multiple uses.
I used to be a forehand-only player, but have learned to drive with a backhand. I still do the forehand approach shots as i cant manage to approach well with a backhand
Great vid. The sound effect on the camera zooms is barely noticeable on a phone, but on a large speaker sound system it is way overkill and very annoying haha.
So conversely to nose up making the disc more overstable, does putting an overstable disc nose down make it more understable, I remember you recently putting something out there about ideally throwing drives 4° nose down. It also looks like you are using that rear arm to pull in to pull the shoulders together to generate extra power into those approach shots where you can't draw power from the hips and lower body as much, I think I've seen McBeth do that as well, I assume that is correct?
I watched some footage of Henna Bloomroos recently and the commentators were talking about her approach shot style (think it was something like she goes slightly patent pending). Any thoughts on her approach approach?
What about an approach shot that requires you to throw straight at it, wouldn't you need to point your hip at it instead opening shoulder like you said?
For low-ceiling upshots I take my shiniest plastic and throw it upside-down. Every disc glides like a mofo when the dome is up. Putters are easiest, but overstable drivers work too if you need them to hyzer-bounce.
Do you have any suggestions about when to use a forehand vs backhand approach? Assuming there's nothing in the way to block either, I feel a lot more confident just chipping a forehand up to the basket than a backhand.
The downward thumb for nose up scares me. I've got the Michael Strauss Approach Method down, using the "wrist above elbow" to get the nose up. I'll stick with that for now... I will give this a try tho
@ 3:33 I mention doing 1 of 2 things then proceed to talk about only one… oops. The other thing is they will over compensate with the hand and pull it into a late release anhyzer.
Yea, that's my miss on aproaches 😭
Every single one of my approaches and never understood why its happening. You have given me hope that I may be able to get an approach close to the basket one day, thank you so much! Time to train :)
This was super helpful bro, much appreciated.
Noticable step up in storyboarding and narrative. Great job OT.
We got complacent for a while there. Must improve
Seconded! far easier on the eyes and earned a subscribe from me. Tips are always great but the polish is appreciated too!
@@OverthrowDiscGolf loved the change of scenery. Keep up the great work!
Suggestion: Throw the shot to start. Explain the parts of the breakdown. Throw the shot again after.
It lets people relate the parts to the throw they saw already then be able to see/grasp more the second throw (or just even the replay of the same throw)
I have always defaulted to FH on approach shots, because BH approached never felt comfortable - mostly because I always tried to use my drive form, but standstill. I can already tell this video is gonna change a lot of things for me! Thanks for the awesome content!
I went through a period where my default was a forehand approach too, mainly because I would occasionally early release my backhand approach shots at THE worst times! 😩 But I’ve recently been trying to bring my backhand back in, because except when I released early, I was really accurate with it. Josh’s tips here will be helpful, I’m sure.
Not many videos out there for beginners about when & how to use approach shots. Really appreciate the knowledge!
its so freaking cool all the form ideas ive learned on my own is completed by your deeper and simplier understanding. i call it a half moon shot when my body is in the way and it curves around the body for approaches and forehand shots.
I can’t believe I haven’t seen this taught before. I was definitely doing it 100% the wrong way before (like you demonstrated it) Can’t wait to try this in the field.
You can tell he is an incredible teacher by the fact he gave amazing advice about throwing nose down, by explaining how to throw nose up, and making a joke about it in the process. This is fantastic.
Can’t wait for all the snow to melt in about 5 months so I can practice all this, this all seems super helpful!
I love the drill segments so much !!! these are so good!
this is super informative. your ability to describe throwing mechanics are not matched by any other I have seen so far. thanks a lot!
I've been playing for almost a year now and I have to say. I never thought about using a driver for certain approach shots. But it makes total sense especially for those skip shots. You guys have really opened up my mind on the course thanks y'all.
Yesss. This is my favorite part about teaching approach shots. Opening minds
I remember years ago seeing Paul McBeth use a Destroyer for a short forehand skip approach; it blew my mind at the time.
Thank you. This guide completely changed my game. learning and training approaches is my favorite part of discgolf right now! befor i spikehizered the soft berg, now i float the tui.. so much more versatile..
Great to hear!
This video and a few others really helped my game. Your breakdown of big and little levers is very helpful
Thank you for this video. My approaches have always been the weakest part of my game so this video felt like it was directed right at me. I need to practice all these concepts, especially the throwing while facing the target
About to completely change my game with these tips! Awesome stuff!
Great advice. Spotted some TSA molds in there as well. Stay elevated.
Awesome job OT this is definitely one of the things I need!
Excellent approach tutorial... I got an immediate "ah ha" moment that should fine-tune my approach game...THANK YOU. Please do more videos like this, especially when you "take it to the course" and provide examples.
Will do!
this is so well done, it feels like cheating that we get to watch it for free! my approach miss is typically a grip-lock to the right, but visualizing playing catch with the basket has generally kept me close. i'm excited to incorporate the other tips described here to bring my approach game to the next level!
Don’t feel too bad. What I’ve been teaching in private lessons took 2 years to get on the channel. Lol
visualizing playing catch is a great way to understand it.
Hey Josh! looks like you have lost some weight my friend. Looking Gooood!!! thanks for another great video :)
These are some great tips. Might be exactly what I need to work on. I love the level of production on your videos.
Game changer!!! Thank you so much! So helpful as always.
Thank you so much for pronouncing the word especially correctly....
So many people put an X in that word, and it drives me mad....
OT for the win!!!!!
My disdain for the berg & this video’s thumbnail got me excited.
Turns out it was a delightfully educational video and not a berg slandering video.
Well played Over Throw team. Well played.
Tried this today. It works fantastic!! Thanks!
Great to hear!
This is the video I have been looking for. Thank you.
Just found all this stuff out. Makes a massive change to my game
This concept is incredibly useful on wooded courses where you need to get through a small gap with some power (after shanking your drive into the trees). Disc-up to something a little understable and throw nose up.
This is SO HELPFUL. been early low and left on a lot of soft RHBH approaches recently. I was doin to much. Feeling like I had to do a short version of my stroke for drives.
To all the brilliant vids, this one I watched so many times😊 I had my first tournament last weekend and since my drives do not match 240m Par4 setups on a golf course my approach shots saved a lot Pars! I am using the Paradox and the Proxy and sometimes the Kapre. Better approaches reduce also anxiety in Putts😂
I met Mikey last year when he and Paul stopped at my course when filming the Holy shot. Was lucky enough to throw 9 with him. Turned me on to this channel. Great stuff!
I'm sooo greatfull you made this video! I always had too much excessive uncontrolled power, had no touch shots apart from spyke hyzers to control the distance 🤣 I can do 450ft standstills & it's very hard for me not to go long on anything less than 150-180ft 😬 Just tried this different grip now and it changes everything for me! Thank you so much! 👌🏼
Glad it helped!
I had a feeling this was coming after seeing your comments in chat about the Berg on LVC Round one the other day lol
This reminds me a bit of the OG closed-shoulder snap drill (I just watched it today so it's fresh in my mind). Specifically idea of removing the more powerful levers such as your hips and shoulder in order to gain that snap with mainly just one lever -- your wrist. I like that you also talk about how you line up differently on these approach shots vs. a tee shot. I tend to overcompensate and pull into a late release anhyzer. Lots of goodies in this video. Thanks for the great content as always
I really enjoy when you guys post this post like this because this kind of stuff really helps me think about my game. I would love to hear more about how you compensate for wind and when and where to throw understable versus overstable discs in relation to wind and elevation. That probably sounds goofy but like I really respect your guys's opinion and would love to see more of that. To that end I have to admit Josh, you have lost a crazy amount of weight and you look fantastic. Love to know what you did to pull that off off
The biggest change was increasing my water intake drastically. Not even kidding.
Dude you’re such a badass teacher!!
That’s a first. I’ll take it lol
Worked on this today and the difference in accuracy was night and day. Thanks for the info.
Glad it helped!
Nice work fellas, Josh lookin' good
Great video guys!
Dang these are good tips! I can't wait to try all this!
A lot of amazing advice! Great work!!
Thanks Chris
well, this video tells me that im really good at throwing approach shots! so good, in fact, that i drive and putt the exact same way!
Wow you are the expert on You Tube when it comes to disc golf. I see it is extremely popular as well. Enjoy watching you teach. However I will stick with regular golf
Although from what I am learning from you. At 75 I will have some fun now tossing discs with my grandchildren at the beach. Cheers 😃⛳️👍🥂
Hey. That’s a huge win in my book
Thank you for this. I was out practicing 150-200ft shots yesterday because that is one of the weakest parts of my game. I’m excited to go try this instead.
Been struggling with upshot’s. I’ve been doing the exact awkward power drive stance and going past basket or being pretty short. Felt like I was uncomfortable with upshot’s, being lost in the sauce of what to do with my arm out and side stance. Gonna try this out, great video. Thank you for the clarity and God Bless.
Follow-up comment: I thought 200' was a bit of a stretch for this shot, but I'm now hitting 180's on a gradual sloping uphill... and I'm a sissy-armed newb. Popping that wrist is so important like you said, focusing on that pop is really helping me dial in the distance/lines. This shot is literally a game-changer. Thanks again!
I threw in a Berg from 200ft on Saturday at leagues. Hands off my Berg! 😆
They go that far?
That's about as far as I can get one 😆
It was a standstill, but I had to throw it petty hard
I can get a berg out between 220-235 but typically only use it inside 200’ because of wanting more control. I like the berg inside 150 for forehand approach.
Very timely video for me. I'm guilty of using tee pad form for approach shots, which turn out so awful I prefer to use a forehand. Definitely going to try this face on and wrist action.
Question, I saw you throw the last tee pad shot 200'. What were the distances at 4:00 and 4:20 ?
Mmmmm. Guessing here but maybe 125’ and 200’ ish? Unsure
So much great advice here. As always you guys are the best.
Appreciate it
great content here. well executed
Much appreciated
forehand approach next? This is great and really helpful video!
This video saved my life.
Thanks for the great tutorial! What about if you need to make a reaaaally straight approach shot? How do you position yourself then and how does the throw go then?
Awesome stuff! I’m looking forward to practicing these tips, thank you. 😊
super helpful. Thank you
I started stand still drives, and ended up using those same mechanics on approach shots and had mixed results depending on the shot. Without even applying what's on this video I can already tell it will help me significantly.
This is exactly what I need right now. Been frustrated not getting my approach shots into my comfortable putting range
What a great video, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Would your thoughts about the glitch be the same as a berg? Don’t use it for this until you can do it with a 3 speed putter?
Opposite actually. Touch needed with the glitch
Too often did I find myself focusing on my form of driving and not on other aspects of the game. Practice these techniques and that nice approach shot will do miracles for you
Another great video. Just a question. Does your hand stay closed during the release like a drive or does it open?
It opens!
Great video!
What form should I be using for fairway drives? I don’t usually take a run up on fairway shots
Great video!! ❤
As soon as you mentioned taking the disc out and away from you, I thought of Catrina Allen. Watched some FPO coverage this week and noticed it and now you mention it, so I guess I have to try it out :D
I was watching that all weekend too
Definitely fall into the AM mistake mentioned in the vid and approach shots are probably the weakest part of my game. Can't wait to give this a try.
I feel like all my shots when I try this are too nose up and go way left, is there a nice fix for this?
You probably need to lay off the pronation or snap through more
Lol the nose up dig was fantastic... At least I imagine it was, I personally have no idea what a nose up throw could even look like... 😉
Out here trying to relate to these plebeians. So tough
/s
nice video thanks. do you think that going to the driver with ground play is better than an air bounce with the putter on the final low ceiling behind the tree? honest question.
Absolutely. I wanted to airbounce the driver too though. Nose up let’s me get the ground play there
@@OverthrowDiscGolf thanks. looking forward to more of your content. the upshot is, currently, the only strong part of my game. lol
Great content. Whatever you been doing for weight loss , keep it up. It's noticeable
Turns out water is good for you.
Around what distance (or what should be our clue) do you think we should transition to reaching out more to add some more power?
I was working on it today and didn't know if I needed to practice using the wrist more or if I needed to change to the "distance" approach shot
Not a specific distance unfortunately
This is exactly what my game was missing yesterday
No way bro, BERG LIFE!!!! come on, click bait because yu know how dope the BERG is, BERG BERG BERG!!!!
It is dope
I've learned nose-up approach shots by Ulibarri's tip, think of keeping your hands above your elbows
I would like to know more about the side swing. What does that accomplish? Seems like it would mess up the aim of your shot without adding anything. But then again I have no idea what I’m doing or talking about
It allows you to keep your eyes on where you’re throwing while getting a bit more of a swing. For approach shots we aren’t throwing fast enough for the out in out movement to derail the aiming of the hand.
Love it ❤
😘
I watched an instruction video that said to ALWAYS use a full backhand swing (like a drive) for approach shots.
Ironically, therefore I've been using that (standing sideways to the target) even though I've had good results when trying a form closer to this video.
The danger in listening to random videos - even when they can be persuasive at first.
It’s a tough world out there when the videos contradict one another for sure
What disc is that with the Sail stamp?
Twas a DGA sail
What happened to that first disc on the "longer approach" time stamp? 😉
I was wondering what I did with it when I saw the edit too. I imagine I put it back in the bag because I don’t normally throw with more than one disc in my off hand. Could have totally shanked it though 😂
Anything under 200ft I throw my Zone, Proxy or putter. I tried the Berg, I like it but my problem is it only really had one use throw but that throw I could easily cover with other discs that I bag that have multiple uses.
The Berg works very well for me 200' and less.. jmo
I used to be a forehand-only player, but have learned to drive with a backhand. I still do the forehand approach shots as i cant manage to approach well with a backhand
My approaches used to be all FH too
Great, I just bought a Berg, now I have to throw it in pond.
Sadness
Great vid. The sound effect on the camera zooms is barely noticeable on a phone, but on a large speaker sound system it is way overkill and very annoying haha.
I actually believe this 😂 I will notch it down next time lolol
-Mikey here
@@OverthrowDiscGolf onya mikey
Intro: put away the berg. Midway: breaks out the Glitch. I like it.
So conversely to nose up making the disc more overstable, does putting an overstable disc nose down make it more understable, I remember you recently putting something out there about ideally throwing drives 4° nose down. It also looks like you are using that rear arm to pull in to pull the shoulders together to generate extra power into those approach shots where you can't draw power from the hips and lower body as much, I think I've seen McBeth do that as well, I assume that is correct?
Yep. If you take any disc and drop the nose angle down it will act more understable. Not thinking about my left arm here at all
Brilliant. Turns out I was doing everything perfectly already... ha, not. Smash for you, much appreciated, thank you.
You can't tell me what to do, you're not my REAL dad
I’ll never stop throwing my BERG!!!!!!
Nonstop BERG?
Yea man. Definitely has become my favorite approach disc. Everyone makes fun of me for putting with it but that made me embrace it even more.
So when you are trying to Yeet a disc, you keep the disc off the back of your hand?
Indeed
I watched some footage of Henna Bloomroos recently and the commentators were talking about her approach shot style (think it was something like she goes slightly patent pending).
Any thoughts on her approach approach?
She shanked a couple really far left this weekend doing that. I think she’s making it harder on herself but it talented enough to make it work.
ya i need to work on the upshots and stop just sending them on my field days. lol
What about an approach shot that requires you to throw straight at it, wouldn't you need to point your hip at it instead opening shoulder like you said?
For low-ceiling upshots I take my shiniest plastic and throw it upside-down. Every disc glides like a mofo when the dome is up. Putters are easiest, but overstable drivers work too if you need them to hyzer-bounce.
seems like you putting disc above elbow as you throw making it slightly an-hyzer
Do you have any suggestions about when to use a forehand vs backhand approach? Assuming there's nothing in the way to block either, I feel a lot more confident just chipping a forehand up to the basket than a backhand.
Confidence is the biggest thing when the pressure is on. After that I would look at the green and wind
The downward thumb for nose up scares me. I've got the Michael Strauss Approach Method down, using the "wrist above elbow" to get the nose up. I'll stick with that for now... I will give this a try tho
👌 nice
Amazing video as always but whats wrong with the berg? I don't get your point.
It allows people to throw really hard and be rewarded for it versus learning the nose angle and distance control
Since I got a glitch, it's pretty easy to leave the Berg on the rack