There are sane people in the Pentagon and the intelligence agencies (former and current) who, to greater or lesser degrees, understand this. Unfortunately they are drowned out by political hacks who only care about power and money and who have noshed down heroic amounts of copium and dogmatically stick with their failed ideology.
@@Letmedescribe you are pretending they have ever had quality to choose from, everything they do is a copy of something in existence, and they don't have the materials to copy it properly. so it might be the best quality they can produce, but it is sub par.
Its worth mentioning that the J20 is as big as it is because it needs all that internal fuel to conduct long range air patrols over the chinese coastline. The US has discovered that their F35s and F22s are too short ranged to be useful and would either need extensive use of highly vulnerable tankers, lots of external tanks that make them non-stealthy or put US carriers dangerously close to the chinese coast. This was why they were trying to develop the NGAD which due to the usual issues with the US MIC, has gotten cancelled for cost overruns.
The J-20 is also specialized for killing support aircraft like AWACS and air refuel tankers. The drone swarm mothership J-20, however, is going to rewrite how aerial warfare and combat air patrols are going to be handled.
The f-35 is thick and Short because it's vertical takeoff and landing capable the j20 has the radar cross-section of a school bus because of its size .no aircraft ,in combat,will have enough fuel. It will have to refuel at some point that’s modern air combat logistics 101. you can’t have air dominance without air logistics isn’t that the purpose of having stealth aircraft? The US has a fleet of about 500 refueling tankers. China has about 10. if you’re going to copy anything from the US, I suggest you copy it logistics doctrine it may not be pretty but it’s what wins
@treyborn2931 The US wants to project this air power to China & that logistics will be a nightmare. Knocking out an air tanker will be equivalent to knocking out many fighter planes.
@@treyborn2931 So why does the F35 have external fuel tanks then (which negate stealth) if they can just refuel all the time? You do realize refuel tankers can get shot down right? China doesn't need to copy anything from the US because China has a real defensive military - unlike the US "force projection" (aka imperialism).
@@treyborn2931 As to the issue of sufficient fuel - the main point is that if you are defensive and patrolling your coastline, it will be more than sufficient. And when involved in a dogfight, you can always return to land when out of fuel. If you are attacking, from carriers out of harm's way, you will be out of fuel soon after you arrive for action.
russian flanker chief designer said there are only 2 types of 5th-generation stealth fighters in the world. one type is J-20. the other type is f-22 and its copycats( f-35, su-57, j-35). he said all fighter jets designers will agree with him that j-20 is the most innovative aerodynamic masterpiece. and its a very risky and out of box design that guarantee j-20 to be the fastest, the most agiled, the most fuel efficient 5th-generation stealth fighters in the world.
@@TaiwanSausage lol ... exactly which Russian flanker chief said that and "all "fighter jet designers would agree? You just made that up didn't you ..just because you want all of this to be true will never make it actually true ,no matter how many imaginary engineers said this or that
@@treyborn2931 Sukhoi Bureau chief (also chief engineering designer of SU-27) , Mikhail Simonov, said so after seeing the maiden flight of J-20 before his death in 2011. he said he was stunned that china, for the first time, produced a fighter very different from western route or soviet route in J-20. at the time, he also mentioned J-20's air dynamic is so very different from F-22 and its copys in F-35 and T-50 (prototype of SU-57) .
I don’t think anyone’s worried though. The J 35 is an unproven platform. What technology does it have? What’s its radar cross-section? who’s going to buy this aircraft? The F3 5 is the only combat proven fifth generation platform the SU 57 does not fly over Ukrainian airspace it's afraid of the patriot system the F 35 on the other hand defeated the S300-400 in true stealth fashion it was not a threat to the F 35
Yes... On be half of Murica, Ihumbly apologize. To all my Chinese friends, being number one in thr world runs the risk of becoming an obsession. As we in the West weed out those elements that no longer serve us, as we become more insular, nationalistic and self focused, and as we ourselves realize where our open socierty, naivety, and adversely, our neuroticism has failed us, we hope to reengage the world on more realistic terms, with new understandings, new resolve, and a new attitude. One in which greed and capitlis5ic greed takes a back seat to national security, and pride. By virtue of our composition we will continue to innovate, but with a focus on securing IP and mass producing on our own. Finally, America has actual war experience. We've been fighting and waging war for the 35 years in some capacity or another. Enough experience in battle to know how it works in reality. If I were a warhawk bent on preserving US hegemony, I would go to war with China NOW, level her factories and set her industri capacity back a few decades. Dont wait untill she can effectively strike our interests around the world conventionally the way the US can strike hers now. Lets hope Trump has changed his view on Chyna.
sexy doesn't win battles ...the ff35 has a huge turbo fan right in the middle of it's fuselage that's why it's a bit thicc and when you combine that with stealth it gives you an advantage because no one else has this capability lessons learned from using the Harriet jump jet
@@treyborn2931 Stealth? Ask Iran. Israel F-35s were locked on radar and dared not enter Iranian airspace. They love to bomb Iran with passion but abort missions. You are living under a rock. Educate yourself.
The US has built demonstrated and or used 7 different stealth platforms the since the 60s...Chinese would have you believe there's only 1 way to build stealth aircraft and that’s to copy whatever the latest stealth aircraft the US is using...lol😂 the J 35 copycat even has the sapphire glass sensor suite window on the bottom of the nose but it’s just a mock up. The J35 copycat does not have the same sensor suite pilot 3-D helmet but they glued the sapphire window to the bottom of the nose anyway... lol🤭 imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Yes imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, like printing press a Chinese invention, also paper, ink, brush, gunpowder, pasta making which we use in our daily lives, definitely flattery to the Chinese
Um...no.. a Russian scientist wrote a book on the theory of wave refraction ..that’s it… He never imagined that theory being applied to aircraft The US were the first to apply that theory to aircraft
Those intakes shapes on the F-35 that people keep referring to, were actually invented by an Italian engineer back in the 80s . With that logic the F-35 is also a copy then
@@bobsmith3983The JF-17 went into production in 2003 the F-35 won it's production competition Against a rival stealth fighter in 2001 it was tested and flown years before that the Chinese j-10's were based on the f-16 the Chinese J-10B , first debuted in 2018 , it's Diverterless supersonic inlets are a direct copy of the F-16 variant block 30 Diverterless supersonic inlets which first flew back in 1996... let that sink in for a minute ...1996
@@Issaviiibe the f-35 uses DSI as a cheaper option ,it intended on using the variable geometry inlets the f-22 uses Wich can adjust their shape to optimize airflow depending on flight speed and conditions ...DSI on the f-35 were the second option ,they are less efficient than the f-22 VGI's and the main reason it can't achieve super cruise as it would have added another degree of complication to a platform that didn't need it ..the F 35 is practicallyi omniscient With it’s sensor suite which makes it deadlier than the F-22 in it’s air ground roll, the fact that the f-35 uses DSI doesn't mean the Italians invented a vertical takeoff and landing, super Sonic stealth fighter...lol 😂😂
It's a good looking plane. I'm not sure its fair to state its better than the F-35, especially since its relatively new and not much is known, but China has done the smart thing in tailoring their aircraft requirements to their geographical needs. Bigger planes mean more fuel and the ocean is a vast theatre.
@@treyborn2931it's just is capable comparing stealth is not even the point Because stealth jets are not meant to engage in direct dog fights you or anybody is thinking what F35 and j35 is going to boxing match Not it's more of radar vs F35 or J35 Rather each other Compare dog fighters jets with each other But no body fights like that unless necessary Even then it's the missiles who hunt the target down whether in dog fight or stealth fight so rather than just the jets we have to take into account how is the overall criterias are F35 or J35 are not going to direct contact Their function are stealth hit run Not brawl
That's what the Iranian were hoping but they lost s300-400's and a nuclear research site because the F 35 works ...facts Don’t care about your feelings
@@treyborn2931 stop lying... no F35's crossed into IRan. Nor did they lose all their air defense nor nuclear research. where are the live videos? we know when US weapons are used to attack weak nations the videos are published. No social media either - like when Iran's ballistic missiles DID hit targets.
@@bobreust6913 You’re still living in the past,in terms of economics, innovation and technology. Admit it, that’s no alternative shape to a wheel till to a time which you actually don’t need a wheel. 20years back, Nokia is king and now, who cares??? Any 2nd tier handphone will simply beat the crap out of a 20years old handphone in terms of economics, innovation and technology.
American definitely has a lots of talented scientists. It’s not unusual to learn from them. We all go to school to learn from the more advanced levels folks. Fortunately, many former students became more advanced than their teachers. That’s a fact. It only natural for the Chinese scientists to make a name for themselves. Everyone in the world can make a name for himself or herself too. Let’s celebrate the advancement of everyone, instead of bitter jealousy. All these world power, the Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire, the Roman Empire, the British, French, the Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, the Kingdom of Aksum, Kush, the Songhai..etc, were distributed throughout the world. It’s called humanity.
US loss many TALENTED Scientist from China. Now majority are from India. And they are more incline towards Financial services. Not Pure Scientific Researched nor Pioneering areas ( AI in New Materials, AI on Quantum Navigation, etc )
The problem is China has more by forcing people into STEM fields. In the United States, we have shortage of advance STEM degree. The United States has a policy of brain draining and raiding/luring the talent from other countries... We do however have tons of fake advance STEM people who are military veterans abusing the US military clearance as well as law enforcement . We have more liberal snowflakes. If you don't believe go to the Department of Education for data....which Trump wants to get rid of.
that was the Brits. They forgot to take off the fan cover, and it dove into the sea… But the Chinese forgot to close the submarine hatch and their sub sanked… It happens.
@@treyborn2931 The Chinese sinking sub story was bogus and was debunked by many. The Japanese F-35 also like to dive into water. The US F-35's like to porpoise on the ground and eject it's pilot before destroying itself. It happens.
Carl Za Thank you for sharing with me about the China Air Show really want to learn more how effective in the world today. The world today is more worry about China Military Forces better than US Aircraft. I really appreciate you for sharing with me. Thank you so much for your time. People's around the world's can say copy from US but now is very real worry about China now.
you are correct problem is though… China’s latest aircraft carrier is not nuclear powered so it has to hug the coastline and China famously does not have a fleet of air tanker refuelers that’s a problem
@ I'm not sure of the point your trying to make...but ...no,they didn't ...the entire fleet was limited by how much fuel they could carry but a nuclear powered fleet is practically limitless which is exactly my point c hi ina's carrier's will be tethered to the coast line which makes the j35 vulnerable because they can only go so far from their carrier's they will have to dodge BVR missiles all day
@@treyborn2931 TThe U.S. aircraft carrier during World War II was not nuclear-powered, but this did not prevent the U.S. aircraft carrier from sailing into Japanese waters. The operating range of an aircraft carrier does not depend on whether the aircraft carrier is nuclear-powered, but on the country's overall supply capabilities. This is why the United States has a large number of overseas military strongholds. In other words, what limits the range of operations of China's aircraft carrier is not because the aircraft carrier has no nuclear power, but because China has too few overseas military bases The U.S. aircraft carrier also needs to replenish a large amount of daily necessities and food, various ammunition, and aviation fuel. Without these supplies, the U.S. aircraft carrier is just a large toy. When the United States enters a war with a small country, the rate of material loss is not rapid. This weakness is not obvious. When a large-scale war breaks out with a big country, the combat materials of the aircraft carrier fleet will be rapidly depleted in large quantities. If the combat materials cannot be replenished in time, the fleet will lose combat capabilities. Will nuclear-powered aircraft carriers be different from conventional aircraft carriers by then?
Why you want 2 types of stealth jet fighter? how about the 2 seated J20S? one of the seat isn't for a backup pilot. You have a man driving the aircraft, and the other man sending command to drones or other aircraft after collecting data at the front-line. The defensive weapons are another bright spot on the show. I'm not talking about the missile defend system. The anti-drone microwave system, is something that never seen before, and it makes sense when the modern warfare is all about manless machines.
The reason you have two types of 5th gen fighters is the same as 4th gen fighters! The F-15/F-16, SU-27/MIG-29 is they may cover different mission sets and a lighter cheaper more producible light fighter! Russia 🇷🇺 will do the same when their SU-75 comes into production!
It is more like production flow management. You don't want to first 3 years 300%, then next 7 years sitting idle. A lot of J35 is for sale probably starting at year 3 or 5.
Russia 🇷🇺 is the second most powerful army in Ukraine 🇺🇦 but at the same time they will conquer all of Europe and the world 🌎 😂! Imperialism doesn’t lie sometimes but lies all of the time!
bicycle copy from car or car copy from bicycle.....................2 wheels vs 4 wheels ...........if copy is easy................why only china made j35 a..............but others can't......use your brain ....ok, please!!!!
Somehow, people forget that is what is INSIDE of a plane that makes it what it is. Without these premises the YF23 would be the most advanced plane in the world 30 years after its roll out. BTW the number of F35 being sold is much higher then you shown: Italy alone purchased 115 at the moment.
he first Chinese government intelligence officer ever to be extradited to the United States to stand trial was sentenced today in federal court in Cincinnati. Yanjun Xu, 42, was sentenced to 20 years in prison. According to court documents, Xu targeted American aviation companies, recruited employees to travel to China, and solicited their proprietary information, all on behalf of the government of the People’s Republic of China (PRC).
6:31 The F-35 was designed as a light multi-role fighter, it's size is one of the reasons why Switzerland bought 36 of them ( missing on your diagram at 3:06). Switzerland hides some of its fighters in hardened shelters, which are basically tunnels in mountains, and these installations can not accommodate much larger aircraft. In addition to that it is still war doctrine in Switzerland, to use certain parts of freeways as makeshift runways, and there is a size limitation to that as well. If "big" were always better most MIG's (Mikojan) airplanes would not exist, because the Sukhois are the big aerial supremacy aircraft, i.e. MIG-35 vs SU-35. Look at the F/A-18 and the F-5 Tiger II the Swiss air force has, they were chosen for their size.
Regarding all this nonsense the Chinese are copying, There are universal things that everyone will do roughly the same, an airplane is not a vehicle that anyone can design whatever they want, Especially physiological, the stealth that needs to be fitted in the plane reduces the possibility of the design, What is this, also on a mathematical result you ara going to say that the Chinese copied 😂
The recent demonstration of Chinese EVs on the track at Nuremberg should make you think? Does the Lockheed Martin profit focus parasitize the design and innovation process?
I HAVE A QUESTION !! Where you have the overhead picture of the J35 & F35 side by side ... WHY does it look like the F35 went to a concert, got drunk & stoned & smashed to pieces, and then roadies put it back together with gaffer tape? What are all those marks on it that look like it was taped back together after someone broke it? 😂😂😂
@@cvashel but that is always why the US "stealth" planes have horrible maintenance issues. Literally every time they fly their skin needs to be inspected and/or conditioned.
@@Amidat The F-35 can't fly in rain or thunderstorms or if the fuel is too warm (the fuel is used to cool the electronics). I remember a F-35 that froze like the Windows OS and the plane didn't respond to the pilot which resulted in him ejecting but the F-35 kept flying on until it ran out of fuel. They didn't know where it crashed for quite sometime. Imagine that happens when you about to engage an opposing fighter. You're dead.
157 / 5.000 Russian pilots and planes are the best in the world. That's a fact. They trained in real, recent wars, not American video games. SU-57 is the best plane of the world.
In the new era of warfare, large numbers of fighter aircraft can be a liability. Wny? Becase we are in the era of HYPERSONIC missiles, DRONES, and A2/AD air defense. China leads in hypersonic missile systems, drones, and air defense is likey a draw with Russia. In addition, becusse of advances in air defense, and air-to-air missiles, the days of close-in dog fights, and overhead bombing is a thing of the past. No matter how advanced or expensive the aircraft, they will deliver their missiles and glide bombs in "standback" position. This means out-of-range from the enemies air defense and fighter aircraft in order to escape.
They are already impervious to that ... That why so much frustration, despair, anxieties, sense of helplessness & whatever stress is upon those who want to bully them ! 😂
Well it is very clearly a 90 % copy of the F35 as well as the Sukhoi’s from the aero dynamic design point of view. I mean, you could almost derive a template for a design type from existing models, And then programatically enter some parameters and generate the altered design - Longer but slimmer ~ Two engines, rather than one And by altering every single module according to space designated to that module, retrofit it with alternative Chinese designs and technology. I mean I am pretty sure the simulator technology (as in computer games) can then be used to test fly in various scenarios and conditions, so that the design can be enhanced, refined and completed. This is an cascading of the most excellent engineering principles together with ai. Nothing is gong to beat the Chinese in materials engineering and robotic automatic manufacturing. The US will do the same of course.
J35A is for the air force J35 is for the navy. He is saying J35 will start replacing the old early variants of J15s. The latest variant of J15 is the J15T which is the Catobar capable variant. That will probably still remain in service for awhile longer. J15D is the naval electronic warfare or EW variant which is based on the air force version called.
@@phillipanderson9925he means due to twin engine j-35 will produce more smoke actually he tries to make fun because he is internally jealous and didn't want to believe china success.
That is not the SU 37, its the T50, the prototype version of the SU 37 (which has a superior build quality, improved engines and is the production version)
China's AA missiles are Pretty GOOD. Cheaper and Equivalent in Performance than any US or Russian AA missiles. Plus with improved Radar and Target acquis ion system ........ Interesting .
j35 - Copy and paste of the f35, just skinnier. F35 has US muscle look and has more beef. J35 is the skinny crispy noodle chow mein version. It'll do the job, but not as good.
China has a huge manufacturing capacity on a large scale. This applies to defense weaponry, too, and it's very difficult for any other country on the planet to compete. I don't think America can.👍👍
That su57 was the highlight of the show. The maneuverability of the j20s and j35s look terrible. No vector thrusting, wobbly and cumbersome in the sky. There's not a single video i can find of the Chinese jets doing anything impressive.
@@weihaohuang983 There are infinite number combinations but China chose 35. just like Xiaomi car copied Porsche. like Huawai matebook copied Apple macbook.
20:24 According to Xinzhi Song, a famous Chinese military weapon expert, the F35's radar cross-section is 0.1 square meters, whereas the J35's is less than 0.01 square meters. Not in the same order of magnitude. Now that China has stopped selling gallium to the US, F35s must wait on its radar.
Missiles Uber alles. Unless you are flying against someone with no air power stealth fighters are a massivexwaste of money. As Ted Postal points out even the Patriot terrifies jet fighter pilots. The Ukraine S300 made Russia's air campaign extremely problematic.Aircraft carriers are even worse. As Colonel Macgregor us fond of saying: "There are two kinds of ships today. Submarines and targets." Pete Hegseth: "China could sink an armada of aircraft carriers in 20 minutes and there is nothing we could do about it." Missiles dominate the battle space today.
After watching the air show, this episode was icing on the cake. Thanks, Mr. Zha!
you're welcome!
China has the manufacturing capacity of scale, this applies to defense weaponry too
There are sane people in the Pentagon and the intelligence agencies (former and current) who, to greater or lesser degrees, understand this. Unfortunately they are drowned out by political hacks who only care about power and money and who have noshed down heroic amounts of copium and dogmatically stick with their failed ideology.
True, except they cannot make chips and their quality is quite poor, quantity over quality has always been the Chinese motto
@@MrMichaelBCurtis Are you sure about that? When it comes to national security you think they are gonna compromise on Quality?
@@Letmedescribe you are pretending they have ever had quality to choose from, everything they do is a copy of something in existence, and they don't have the materials to copy it properly. so it might be the best quality they can produce, but it is sub par.
@@MrMichaelBCurtis keep underestimating PLA
the Pentagon is a joke！！！😂😂😂
The Chinese pretending like they did not copy the F-22 F 35 is pretty funny
Betcha think gender pronouns and drag queen teachers are cool, enjoy ur rainbow hysteria, the world is watching Ur clown show
@@treyborn2931looks like you are copying Chinese and EUropean designs now. Cope harder😂
@@user-mhgu6om9mj2t So proud of Chinese copycats. Tell them to develop something of their own.
@@user-mhgu6om9mj2t What programs are the US copying from China and Europe?
Very impressive.
Thank you! Cheers!
Super power China we Indians support you and love you. From India
Nice to see this comment!
You're the only one.
@@sitoudien9816That's what you hope. Hope is now a US strategy.
How India is with USA 🇺🇸 now
@@Saj14356hahaha you haven't kept up the real news. China and India have come to a agreement on their boarder dispute
Its worth mentioning that the J20 is as big as it is because it needs all that internal fuel to conduct long range air patrols over the chinese coastline. The US has discovered that their F35s and F22s are too short ranged to be useful and would either need extensive use of highly vulnerable tankers, lots of external tanks that make them non-stealthy or put US carriers dangerously close to the chinese coast.
This was why they were trying to develop the NGAD which due to the usual issues with the US MIC, has gotten cancelled for cost overruns.
The J-20 is also specialized for killing support aircraft like AWACS and air refuel tankers. The drone swarm mothership J-20, however, is going to rewrite how aerial warfare and combat air patrols are going to be handled.
The f-35 is thick and Short because it's vertical takeoff and landing capable the j20 has the radar cross-section of a school bus because of its size .no aircraft ,in combat,will have enough fuel. It will have to refuel at some point that’s modern air combat logistics 101. you can’t have air dominance without air logistics isn’t that the purpose of having stealth aircraft? The US has a fleet of about 500 refueling tankers. China has about 10. if you’re going to copy anything from the US, I suggest you copy it logistics doctrine it may not be pretty but it’s what wins
@treyborn2931 The US wants to project this air power to China & that logistics will be a nightmare. Knocking out an air tanker will be equivalent to knocking out many fighter planes.
@@treyborn2931 So why does the F35 have external fuel tanks then (which negate stealth) if they can just refuel all the time? You do realize refuel tankers can get shot down right? China doesn't need to copy anything from the US because China has a real defensive military - unlike the US "force projection" (aka imperialism).
@@treyborn2931 As to the issue of sufficient fuel - the main point is that if you are defensive and patrolling your coastline, it will be more than sufficient. And when involved in a dogfight, you can always return to land when out of fuel. If you are attacking, from carriers out of harm's way, you will be out of fuel soon after you arrive for action.
russian flanker chief designer said there are only 2 types of 5th-generation stealth fighters in the world. one type is J-20. the other type is f-22 and its copycats( f-35, su-57, j-35).
he said all fighter jets designers will agree with him that j-20 is the most innovative aerodynamic masterpiece. and its a very risky and out of box design that guarantee j-20 to be the fastest, the most agiled, the most fuel efficient 5th-generation stealth fighters in the world.
J20 was designed with Russian assistance , the SU57 is superion in radar and weapons FACT.
@@TaiwanSausage lol ... exactly which Russian flanker chief said that and "all "fighter jet designers would agree? You just made that up didn't you ..just because you want all of this to be true will never make it actually true ,no matter how many imaginary engineers said this or that
@@treyborn2931 Sukhoi Bureau chief (also chief engineering designer of SU-27) , Mikhail Simonov, said so after seeing the maiden flight of J-20 before his death in 2011.
he said he was stunned that china, for the first time, produced a fighter very different from western route or soviet route in J-20.
at the time, he also mentioned J-20's air dynamic is so very different from F-22 and its copys in F-35 and T-50 (prototype of SU-57) .
Very informative, thank you from Colorado 😊
Thank you, Jo!
Great!
Always Carl comes up with interesting topics.
thank you!
Thank you Carl Zha, and TP. Highly impressive. Congratulations to China!
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Thanks for watching!
The Zhuhai Airshow was to give the US a message. FAFO.
FAFO 😂😂😂
@@adonisstroke4323 🤣
I don’t think anyone’s worried though. The J 35 is an unproven platform. What technology does it have? What’s its radar cross-section? who’s going to buy this aircraft? The F3 5 is the only combat proven fifth generation platform the SU 57 does not fly over Ukrainian airspace it's afraid of the patriot system the F 35 on the other hand defeated the S300-400 in true stealth fashion it was not a threat to the F 35
Bogdan is a Russian Chuck Yeager.
Yes... On be half of Murica, Ihumbly apologize. To all my Chinese friends, being number one in thr world runs the risk of becoming an obsession. As we in the West weed out those elements that no longer serve us, as we become more insular, nationalistic and self focused, and as we ourselves realize where our open socierty, naivety, and adversely, our neuroticism has failed us, we hope to reengage the world on more realistic terms, with new understandings, new resolve, and a new attitude. One in which greed and capitlis5ic greed takes a back seat to national security, and pride. By virtue of our composition we will continue to innovate, but with a focus on securing IP and mass producing on our own. Finally, America has actual war experience. We've been fighting and waging war for the 35 years in some capacity or another. Enough experience in battle to know how it works in reality. If I were a warhawk bent on preserving US hegemony, I would go to war with China NOW, level her factories and set her industri capacity back a few decades. Dont wait untill she can effectively strike our interests around the world conventionally the way the US can strike hers now. Lets hope Trump has changed his view on Chyna.
Love to hear TP talk about techs in China, he is so knowledgeable and always has a great analysis backup with all solid data. Thanks Carl
Side by side, j35 wins in the sexy department! J35 is the new super model and f35, a tired old maid.
f35 looks to be having midriff crisis...... too many big Macs crumbs in the avionics. 😂
sexy doesn't win battles ...the ff35 has a huge turbo fan right in the middle of it's fuselage that's why it's a bit thicc and when you combine that with stealth it gives you an advantage because no one else has this capability lessons learned from using the Harriet jump jet
@@treyborn2931 Stealth? Ask Iran. Israel F-35s were locked on radar and dared not enter Iranian airspace. They love to bomb Iran with passion but abort missions. You are living under a rock. Educate yourself.
nah....su-57 looks very slim and sexier.
To the US regime, any airplane with wings and wheels are an imitation of theirs.
The US has built demonstrated and or used 7 different stealth platforms the since the 60s...Chinese would have you believe there's only 1 way to build stealth aircraft and that’s to copy whatever the latest stealth aircraft the US is using...lol😂 the J 35 copycat even has the sapphire glass sensor suite window on the bottom of the nose but it’s just a mock up. The J35 copycat does not have the same sensor suite pilot 3-D helmet but they glued the sapphire window to the bottom of the nose anyway... lol🤭 imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
@@treyborn2931如果你是美国人，那么我要说的是，是的，J35就是我们在模仿学习最好的，甚至超越。如果你不是，希望你的国家不要模仿J20.不要模仿F35,否则会很丢脸😂😂😂
Stop complaining treyborn, America is in decline and the whole world knows it, live with the facts
Yes imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, like printing press a Chinese invention, also paper, ink, brush, gunpowder, pasta making which we use in our daily lives, definitely flattery to the Chinese
@@treyborn2931 Stealth was a US copy from the Soviets.
Didn't know stealth technology originated by the Soviets. Great talks, thanks!
You're welcome!
Um...no.. a Russian scientist wrote a book on the theory of wave refraction ..that’s it… He never imagined that theory being applied to aircraft The US were the first to apply that theory to aircraft
@@treyborn2931 He never imagine but he wrote a book? How hard is it for you to admit Russians are smart?
@ the book was not about creating stealth aircraft is all I’m saying …Russians being smart or not is your own insecurity
Those intakes shapes on the F-35 that people keep referring to, were actually invented by an Italian engineer back in the 80s . With that logic the F-35 is also a copy then
and all stealth are copies from a Soviet concept. Same with vertical take off planes too.
cmon its a lot more than just the intakes though
The DSI (Diverterless Supersonic Intake) air intake was first used on the Chinese designed JF-17 low cost fighter jet in 2001.
@@bobsmith3983The JF-17 went into production in 2003 the F-35 won it's production competition Against a rival stealth fighter in 2001 it was tested and flown years before that the Chinese j-10's were based on the f-16 the Chinese J-10B , first debuted in 2018 , it's Diverterless supersonic inlets are a direct copy of the F-16 variant block 30 Diverterless supersonic inlets which first flew back in 1996... let that sink in for a minute ...1996
@@Issaviiibe the f-35 uses DSI as a cheaper option ,it intended on using the variable geometry inlets the f-22 uses Wich can adjust their shape to optimize airflow depending on flight speed and conditions ...DSI on the f-35 were the second option ,they are less efficient than the f-22 VGI's and the main reason it can't achieve super cruise as it would have added another degree of complication to a platform that didn't need it ..the F 35 is practicallyi omniscient With it’s sensor suite which makes it deadlier than the F-22 in it’s air ground roll, the fact that the f-35 uses DSI doesn't mean the Italians invented a vertical takeoff and landing, super Sonic stealth fighter...lol 😂😂
It's a good looking plane. I'm not sure its fair to state its better than the F-35, especially since its relatively new and not much is known, but China has done the smart thing in tailoring their aircraft requirements to their geographical needs. Bigger planes mean more fuel and the ocean is a vast theatre.
From Pakistan 🇵🇰 China J35 looks amazing 🤩 but I honestly don’t know its capabilities
Love China from Pakistan 🇵🇰
no one knows it’s capabilities but somehow it’s better than the F 35
@@treyborn2931it's just is capable
comparing stealth is not even the point
Because stealth jets are not meant to engage in direct dog fights
you or anybody is thinking what F35 and j35 is going to boxing match
Not it's more of radar vs F35 or J35
Rather each other
Compare dog fighters jets with each other
But no body fights like that unless necessary
Even then it's the missiles who hunt the target down whether in dog fight or stealth fight
so rather than just the jets we have to take into account how is the overall criterias are
F35 or J35 are not going to direct contact
Their function are stealth hit run
Not brawl
Great video Carl. I hope you have TP in future shows.
F 35 built for looking good but can't use in war because they always have technical problems
That's what the Iranian were hoping but they lost s300-400's and a nuclear research site because the F 35 works ...facts Don’t care about your feelings
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@@treyborn2931 Right, F35 is already proven in combat, J35 is an unknown quantity, not even it will run.
@@treyborn2931 stop lying... no F35's crossed into IRan. Nor did they lose all their air defense nor nuclear research. where are the live videos? we know when US weapons are used to attack weak nations the videos are published. No social media either - like when Iran's ballistic missiles DID hit targets.
F35 is build for sucking insane amount of money into pockets of a few
The car is a copy of the bicycle because the car has wheels.
if it was an invisible car and I came out with an invisible bike ,which makes absolutely no sense, but.....I may have stole some technology to do it .
When you can't compete, just simply accuse other and say, "It's copy." but deep inside your heart is so sour.🤭
@@kinwaisiu9414 Chinese quality vs. American. Who can't compare?
@@bobreust6913 Chinese products the world loves to buy; American products easily broken.
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You’re still living in the past,in terms of economics, innovation and technology. Admit it, that’s no alternative shape to a wheel till to a time which you actually don’t need a wheel. 20years back, Nokia is king and now, who cares??? Any 2nd tier handphone will simply beat the crap out of a 20years old handphone in terms of economics, innovation and technology.
American definitely has a lots of talented scientists. It’s not unusual to learn from them. We all go to school to learn from the more advanced levels folks. Fortunately, many former students became more advanced than their teachers. That’s a fact. It only natural for the Chinese scientists to make a name for themselves. Everyone in the world can make a name for himself or herself too. Let’s celebrate the advancement of everyone, instead of bitter jealousy. All these world power, the Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire, the Roman Empire, the British, French, the Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, the Kingdom of Aksum, Kush, the Songhai..etc, were distributed throughout the world. It’s called humanity.
US loss many TALENTED Scientist from China. Now majority are from India. And they are more incline towards Financial services. Not Pure Scientific Researched nor Pioneering areas ( AI in New Materials, AI on Quantum Navigation, etc )
The problem is China has more by forcing people into STEM fields. In the United States, we have shortage of advance STEM degree. The United States has a policy of brain draining and raiding/luring the talent from other countries... We do however have tons of fake advance STEM people who are military veterans abusing the US military clearance as well as law enforcement . We have more liberal snowflakes. If you don't believe go to the Department of Education for data....which Trump wants to get rid of.
East or West I love seeing these modern aircraft in flight.
we all do!
I hope one day Eastern powers join hands, like India and China. Imagine the good stuff they can build.
f35 can even dive into ocean, yankee pilot need more swimming training though, LOL
that was the Brits. They forgot to take off the fan cover, and it dove into the sea… But the Chinese forgot to close the submarine hatch and their sub sanked… It happens.
I suppose the Boeing 737 max also forgot to take off the fan covers 😂😂
@@treyborn2931Regarding the closure of the submarine hatch that thing happened in Endia not China. Get your facts right. Lol. 😂😂😂
@@treyborn2931 The Chinese sinking sub story was bogus and was debunked by many. The Japanese F-35 also like to dive into water. The US F-35's like to porpoise on the ground and eject it's pilot before destroying itself. It happens.
Boeing has some interesting designs.... 737...multi personnel kamikazi liner drones with variable soft ware ability. 😊😊😊
Those robots look freaky. Incredible tech.
The J35 stealth fighter - a new concept from China
u.s does not have the materials and manufacturing capacity .... and they are in a nuclear debt problem
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great info
thanks!
Carl Za Thank you for sharing with me about the China Air Show really want to learn more how effective in the world today. The world today is more worry about China Military Forces better than US Aircraft. I really appreciate you for sharing with me. Thank you so much for your time. People's around the world's can say copy from US but now is very real worry about China now.
Thank you for watching, Vincent!
the theory/formula related to stealth fighter was created by Russian scientist.
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Fascinating, I recognize T P’s voice from a previous video on EV’s.❤🇨🇦
TP is a great guest!
I love when TP comes on the show 😘
All stealth fighters will always have some areas that look identical does matter which country makes it.
Amazing analisys fram TP Huang👍👍👍👍
Glad you liked it
Engine appears to have been perfected.
One thing you didn't mention is that The smaller and lighter J35 is built to be used on a Aircraft carrier whereas the J20 is not, correct?
you are correct problem is though… China’s latest aircraft carrier is not nuclear powered so it has to hug the coastline and China famously does not have a fleet of air tanker refuelers that’s a problem
@@treyborn2931 Were U.S. carriers nuclear-powered in WWII?😂
@ I'm not sure of the point your trying to make...but ...no,they didn't ...the entire fleet was limited by how much fuel they could carry but a nuclear powered fleet is practically limitless which is exactly my point c hi ina's carrier's will be tethered to the coast line which makes the j35 vulnerable because they can only go so far from their carrier's they will have to dodge BVR missiles all day
@@treyborn2931 TThe U.S. aircraft carrier during World War II was not nuclear-powered, but this did not prevent the U.S. aircraft carrier from sailing into Japanese waters.
The operating range of an aircraft carrier does not depend on whether the aircraft carrier is nuclear-powered, but on the country's overall supply capabilities. This is why the United States has a large number of overseas military strongholds.
In other words, what limits the range of operations of China's aircraft carrier is not because the aircraft carrier has no nuclear power, but because China has too few overseas military bases
The U.S. aircraft carrier also needs to replenish a large amount of daily necessities and food, various ammunition, and aviation fuel. Without these supplies, the U.S. aircraft carrier is just a large toy.
When the United States enters a war with a small country, the rate of material loss is not rapid. This weakness is not obvious. When a large-scale war breaks out with a big country, the combat materials of the aircraft carrier fleet will be rapidly depleted in large quantities. If the combat materials cannot be replenished in time, the fleet will lose combat capabilities. Will nuclear-powered aircraft carriers be different from conventional aircraft carriers by then?
Why you want 2 types of stealth jet fighter? how about the 2 seated J20S? one of the seat isn't for a backup pilot. You have a man driving the aircraft, and the other man sending command to drones or other aircraft after collecting data at the front-line.
The defensive weapons are another bright spot on the show. I'm not talking about the missile defend system. The anti-drone microwave system, is something that never seen before, and it makes sense when the modern warfare is all about manless machines.
The reason you have two types of 5th gen fighters is the same as 4th gen fighters! The F-15/F-16, SU-27/MIG-29 is they may cover different mission sets and a lighter cheaper more producible light fighter! Russia 🇷🇺 will do the same when their SU-75 comes into production!
It is more like production flow management. You don't want to first 3 years 300%, then next 7 years sitting idle. A lot of J35 is for sale probably starting at year 3 or 5.
Who are they selling the J 35 to … there's only a few nation states that need stealth aircraft It will never reach the production rate of the F 35.
China is awesome 👍😎
China is overproducing and collapsing at the same time. It's like Schrödinger's cat...🤣
Russia 🇷🇺 is the second most powerful army in Ukraine 🇺🇦 but at the same time they will conquer all of Europe and the world 🌎 😂! Imperialism doesn’t lie sometimes but lies all of the time!
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Hey Carl that's not the Su57 but a T-50 prototype of the Su57
bicycle copy from car or car copy from bicycle.....................2 wheels vs 4 wheels ...........if copy is easy................why only china made j35 a..............but others can't......use your brain ....ok, please!!!!
One thing though, why J-35? there are plenty of numbers between 20 and 35.
I guess to troll the US.... Originally the prototypes were "31"
J in J-35 stands for 歼, which is Chinese for search and destroy. Hope that helps!
Saying J35 is copycat of F35 is illogical. The only common thing is the number 35.
Somehow, people forget that is what is INSIDE of a plane that makes it what it is.
Without these premises the YF23 would be the most advanced plane in the world 30 years after its roll out.
BTW the number of F35 being sold is much higher then you shown: Italy alone purchased 115 at the moment.
I mean Carl Zha can give an analysis on the social fear strike. It is in their playbook.
he first Chinese government intelligence officer ever to be extradited to the United States to stand trial was sentenced today in federal court in Cincinnati.
Yanjun Xu, 42, was sentenced to 20 years in prison. According to court documents, Xu targeted American aviation companies, recruited employees to travel to China, and solicited their proprietary information, all on behalf of the government of the People’s Republic of China (PRC).
6:31 The F-35 was designed as a light multi-role fighter, it's size is one of the reasons why Switzerland bought 36 of them ( missing on your diagram at 3:06).
Switzerland hides some of its fighters in hardened shelters, which are basically tunnels in mountains, and these installations can not accommodate much larger aircraft.
In addition to that it is still war doctrine in Switzerland, to use certain parts of freeways as makeshift runways, and there is a size limitation to that as well.
If "big" were always better most MIG's (Mikojan) airplanes would not exist, because the Sukhois are the big aerial supremacy aircraft, i.e. MIG-35 vs SU-35.
Look at the F/A-18 and the F-5 Tiger II the Swiss air force has, they were chosen for their size.
The mighty paper dragon even the Chinese air force doesn't want to buy that Junk 35 😂
Regarding all this nonsense the Chinese are copying,
There are universal things that everyone will do roughly the same, an airplane is not a vehicle that anyone can design whatever they want,
Especially physiological, the stealth that needs to be fitted in the plane reduces the possibility of the design,
What is this, also on a mathematical result you ara going to say that the Chinese copied 😂
Don't Mess with China.
We are literally experiencing next generation warfare
1:31 Explains the East vs The West with 100 percent accuracy!!
The recent demonstration of Chinese EVs on the track at Nuremberg should make you think? Does the Lockheed Martin profit focus parasitize the design and innovation process?
Jai Hind. J35 will be important component of the 285 billion Saudi purchase contract.
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Where you have the overhead picture of the J35 & F35 side by side ... WHY does it look like the F35 went to a concert, got drunk & stoned & smashed to pieces, and then roadies put it back together with gaffer tape? What are all those marks on it that look like it was taped back together after someone broke it? 😂😂😂
low IQ question
radar absorbent material, kinda important for stealth jets
@@cvashel but that is always why the US "stealth" planes have horrible maintenance issues. Literally every time they fly their skin needs to be inspected and/or conditioned.
@@Amidat ok? There’s a reason we still use 4th gen. Ram is hard and expensive to maintain but it’s essential to stealth
@@Amidat The F-35 can't fly in rain or thunderstorms or if the fuel is too warm (the fuel is used to cool the electronics). I remember a F-35 that froze like the Windows OS and the plane didn't respond to the pilot which resulted in him ejecting but the F-35 kept flying on until it ran out of fuel. They didn't know where it crashed for quite sometime. Imagine that happens when you about to engage an opposing fighter. You're dead.
The US will now build a new 5-billion-dollar f35 using the j35 ideas.
LOL, coming from a country that copies every other country's technology.
Jai Hind. 285 billions of orders were signed in Zhuhai
Both nice planes, so is the su-57 and the f22 raptor
It looks like a more nimble version of the f 35, I honestly think it could potentially over take it.
Those are the real deal "Wolf Warrior."
😂US wanted Chinese wolves warriors, now the Chinese gives them a bunch 😂
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I thought J20 was meant to be the platform for their move to 6th generation fighter jet? Still got a lot of room for loyal wingman, AI, laser weapon.
It's T-50 and not Su-57
Go china.
Gracias Carl .
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Russian pilots and planes are the best in the world. That's a fact. They trained in real, recent wars, not American video games. SU-57 is the best plane of the world.
In the new era of warfare, large numbers of fighter aircraft can be a liability.
Wny? Becase we are in the era of HYPERSONIC missiles, DRONES, and A2/AD air defense.
China leads in hypersonic missile systems, drones, and air defense is likey a draw with Russia.
In addition, becusse of advances in air defense, and air-to-air missiles, the days of close-in dog fights, and overhead bombing is a thing of the past.
No matter how advanced or expensive the aircraft, they will deliver their missiles and glide bombs in "standback" position. This means out-of-range from the enemies air defense and fighter aircraft in order to escape.
"Standoff"
To prevent Opium War 2.0 China needs 10000 of these J 35 and 100 aircraft carriers!
China can make that easily
They are already impervious to that ...
That why so much frustration, despair, anxieties, sense of helplessness & whatever stress is upon those who want to bully them ! 😂
@@tkh2944 It spell N A T O
Dont believe the hype...its whats on the inside that really matters
Not bad, but nothing quite matches the beauty and capability of the SU-57, at least to me.
Well it is very clearly a 90 % copy of the F35 as well as the Sukhoi’s from the aero dynamic design point of view.
I mean, you could almost derive a template for a design type from existing models,
And then programatically enter some parameters and generate the altered design
- Longer but slimmer
~ Two engines, rather than one
And by altering every single module according to space designated to that module, retrofit it with alternative Chinese designs and technology.
I mean I am pretty sure the simulator technology (as in computer games) can then be used to test fly in various scenarios and conditions, so that the design can be enhanced, refined and completed. This is an cascading of the most excellent engineering principles together with ai. Nothing is gong to beat the Chinese in materials engineering and robotic automatic manufacturing.
The US will do the same of course.
you mean J35 replacing J11?? J15 is for navy...... J16 will stay on as multirole and EW
J35A is for the air force J35 is for the navy. He is saying J35 will start replacing the old early variants of J15s. The latest variant of J15 is the J15T which is the Catobar capable variant. That will probably still remain in service for awhile longer. J15D is the naval electronic warfare or EW variant which is based on the air force version called.
The new J15 T's will still be produced of course as they just got released officially. Same with J15D. J35 will play a different role.
@@wuhui The J-20s and J-35s will also replace the older fighters like the J-7 and J-8.
@@bobsmith3983agree
Seams like it blows a lot of smoke
f22, 35 do pot using afterburners
@ I don’t understand what you’re trying to say sorry
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@@phillipanderson9925he means due to twin engine j-35 will produce more smoke actually he tries to make fun because he is internally jealous and didn't want to believe china success.
Plasma ionic stealth decoy 😉🫡
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That is not the SU 37, its the T50, the prototype version of the SU 37 (which has a superior build quality, improved engines and is the production version)
SU-57 not SU-37.
China's AA missiles are Pretty GOOD. Cheaper and Equivalent in Performance than any US or Russian AA missiles. Plus with improved Radar and Target acquis ion system ........ Interesting .
Wouldn't the F35s be sitting ducks if they don't have parts?
correct! lack of rare earth elements will bankrupt the Fs lol PEACE
j35 - Copy and paste of the f35, just skinnier. F35 has US muscle look and has more beef. J35 is the skinny crispy noodle chow mein version. It'll do the job, but not as good.
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Lol! These two guys are comedians.
China has a huge manufacturing capacity on a large scale. This applies to defense weaponry, too, and it's very difficult for any other country on the planet to compete. I don't think America can.👍👍
where is China getting chips for their aircraft? They cannot make them, so what are they doing?
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That su57 was the highlight of the show. The maneuverability of the j20s and j35s look terrible. No vector thrusting, wobbly and cumbersome in the sky. There's not a single video i can find of the Chinese jets doing anything impressive.
You guys should watch J20 flight performance. Damn freaking impressive. It can flip and rotate 360 degrees.
China couldn't up with a different name at least? Come on 35?
J35的中文意思是~歼灭掉F35！😂
@@weihaohuang983 There are infinite number combinations but China chose 35. just like Xiaomi car copied Porsche. like Huawai matebook copied Apple macbook.
American weapons are effective when fighting guyz with only ak47 they are not match fighting their peers like Russia
20:24 According to Xinzhi Song, a famous Chinese military weapon expert, the F35's radar cross-section is 0.1 square meters, whereas the J35's is less than 0.01 square meters. Not in the same order of magnitude. Now that China has stopped selling gallium to the US, F35s must wait on its radar.
What kind of cope bullshit is this 😂😂😂😂😂
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Missiles Uber alles. Unless you are flying against someone with no air power stealth fighters are a massivexwaste of money. As Ted Postal points out even the Patriot terrifies jet fighter pilots. The Ukraine S300 made Russia's air campaign extremely problematic.Aircraft carriers are even worse. As Colonel Macgregor us fond of saying: "There are two kinds of ships today. Submarines and targets." Pete Hegseth: "China could sink an armada of aircraft carriers in 20 minutes and there is nothing we could do about it." Missiles dominate the battle space today.
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The US too scared of China and never talk about hot war with China yet. 😂
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😂😂 the US will just use lasers that's why we have a space force
Chinese equipments are defective.... quality standard is irregular....but Cheap massive productions will give The Chinese as Edge
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