These (and many other vintage Seiko) are extremely undervalued. So many vintage swiss watches with common and not in house movements are fetching 2500-3000, and you can still find these King Seikos well under 1000. This is easily a 3000-4000 watch.
So true! This is an incredibly high quality movement as well, something you won't find outside of the Grand Seiko line up now. I should actually pick a few more of these older Grand and King Seikos while they are still available at these prices!
@@JustWatches1 great video! I was wondering what's the difference between 45-7000 and 45-7001? What is a good price for one of these in good condition and serviced. Thanks!
@@paulpeter2869I might never figured it out neither I just bought the 45-7000 with date (it instantly changes at misnight) for ~450 dollars serviced.
Got my 45 7001, my first vintage watch yesterday. The handwind mechanism and timekeeping are amazing. The watch is worth more than it's current market value. Glad to have one in my small collection.
Yes, these are very underrated in my opinion. Also, the do not build movements like this anymore, unless you are getting a luxury watch. Congrats on the pick up!
Gorgeous watch~ I have three King Seikos with me, the 5625-7000, 5626-7110 and the 45-8010 Special Chronometer :) Really loved the Hi beat 36000vph Caliber 45!!
I just bought a 4502 7001 for $530 from Japan. Not pristine but dial is very good and movement is great, I’m surprised I could get such a nice example for only $530. So values of these has not really moved much the last 5 years, this could change so I’m happy I was able to get one.
It's unreal how cheap these can be had for. Vintage Omega and Rolex from the same period goes for way, way more. The movements in these vintages King Seikos are built like tanks.
cool ....I'm still wearing KS 44-9990 from 1964,,,got it from my best friend he wanted to throw away coz he thought it was broken, the cosmetic value are not so great but after I repaired it I mean just service it with grease and oil and give some tap...booom it's ALIVE! damn go for full winding and the watch got full power it run good.
I have the exact same watch. It’s mesmerizing to watch. My Omega Constellation has a gold medallion on the back. I put those little plastic case back covers on them to protect the medallions.
Very informative documentary, having a clean version of tv cased 5246 KS makes me lucky i guess. In terms of today +6 seconds for my KS(Serviced a while ago) is a good challenge to many Swiss watches of today. The watchmaker told me to not sell the KS.
@@JustWatches1 the Swiss forbade them to put it on the dial. Anyways after that seiko established their own metrics of grand seiko certified that even more stringent than the swiss one and id still in use till today. Btw try to find a clear case back for it. 1. The movement is too beautiful not to look at. 2. You save the gold medallion from corrosion.
@@faisalengler2133 Will do. I finally tracked down a new mainspring, going to replace that and if everything goes well will get the clear caseback next!
Killer watch and review. I just picked one up for $220. My dial has a beautiful light patina. It was serviced recently and only gains a second on a bad day.
Yours has a chronometer rating. The number on the movement in between the caliber number and “Japan” proves it. They weren’t all market on the dial.also that medallion is solid gold. Also it’s acrylic not mineral crystal 😀
Defin my favorite all time watch and so happy to wear it as I’m typing this You should try a beads of rice bracelet on it, it totally transforms the watch
@@JustWatches1 not sure if my reply got deleted or didn’t send but here’s attempt 2: The best you can probably get is the BoR bracelet from Forstner. Highest quality and beautiful execution. Personally though, I’m getting the BoR bracelet from ThoseWatchGuys as it is cheaper with seemingly sufficiently good quality. Plus, they got a picture of a 4502-7001 in their BoR listing of their online shop. So you can already see how perfect it works on a BoR bracelet. I’ve been wanting a BoR bracelet for the longest time already and keep dreaming of rocking this combination myself, but I am forcing myself to wait until Black Friday to get a little discount on it (due to budgeting limits) Very hyped though! You should totally get one and make a video about it. More people need to know how perfect this works together.
Just stumbled on your Great little video. You sound like you have great passion for the KS45 So you know, the watch you have there is a Chronometer, it has a 6 digit serial number under the movement number on the train wheel bridge. This piece is very special to me also. Many secrets have been lost about its history. Let me know if you want to know more. Cheers 👍🇯🇵🙏
I didn’t realize this is the chronometer version. Thank you for the insight. Yes I love this era of Seiko. Would love to know more about them!! Please share
@@JustWatches1 This is some research I’ve done. Unfortunately it was all in Japanese so took me a while to decipher it all. But here’s some interesting information for you. The 45 movement was the first “Official chronometer” (as in Swiss chronometer officials coming to Japan and approving the Japanese officials for world recognition and official permission to use the word “chronometer”); the KS 45 is the first watch with this official certification for domestic “japan” retail sale from Seiko Any other Seikos sporting the words “chronometer” on their dial before the KS45 were manufactured to chronometer specifications but not officially recognised. Later the Swiss drew a court ordered injunction to suspend Seiko from using this word from there watch dials. The 45 movement was the only highbeat movement from Daini factory The 45 movement was the last hand assembled king seiko movement The 45 movement architecture was adopted and highly regulated for use in the Grand Seiko 4580 for their high grade VFA movement.
Video @ 10:23 "a Flat Black Matte finish on the top" - I have the identical watch. Mine also looks "flat black down the middle", but if you get out a loupe/magnifier, you'll see that there isn't ANY paint on the indices (unlike the sides, they're just not polished in the middle) . Guessing that there's an optical illusion going on here...👌 Since you now have experience with this model, will you offer a service for it ? - My sample like yours runs nicely & isn't Mint (runs too fast about 5 min per day)...
Oh fascinating, I am going to have to take a closer look with my scope. I love the effect and wish they would use it on some of their modern watches. As far as service, I am brand new to the servicing side of the hobby and definitely not comfortable to do so yet, maybe ask me in 5 years lol! I am pretty sure Vintage Time Australia will service any King Seiko, I watched his tear down videos on UA-cam to learn how to do much of the service.
I noticed that the “HI-BEAT” is quite bold on your watch in the video. But on other watches online, the font is thinner. Is there a certain year where the font changed?
That's a great question. Opinions about servicing widely vary. For this one, unless it displays signs that something is wrong (starts losing time, etc.) I probably wouldn't service it against for 5-6 years because I used all modern synthetic oils/greases.
HI - quick question: what is that brown canvas strap with the grey stripe? I've recently acquired a lovely example of this same watch and would like to try it with the strap in your vid. Thanks!
It is a random Timex strap I took off another watch. I checked their website and I don't see the exact one anymore but it's a 2 piece fabric strap if that helps.
These (and many other vintage Seiko) are extremely undervalued. So many vintage swiss watches with common and not in house movements are fetching 2500-3000, and you can still find these King Seikos well under 1000. This is easily a 3000-4000 watch.
So true! This is an incredibly high quality movement as well, something you won't find outside of the Grand Seiko line up now. I should actually pick a few more of these older Grand and King Seikos while they are still available at these prices!
@@JustWatches1 great video! I was wondering what's the difference between 45-7000 and 45-7001? What is a good price for one of these in good condition and serviced. Thanks!
@@paulpeter2869I might never figured it out neither
I just bought the 45-7000 with date (it instantly changes at misnight) for ~450 dollars serviced.
Got my 45 7001, my first vintage watch yesterday. The handwind mechanism and timekeeping are amazing. The watch is worth more than it's current market value. Glad to have one in my small collection.
Yes, these are very underrated in my opinion. Also, the do not build movements like this anymore, unless you are getting a luxury watch. Congrats on the pick up!
Vintage watches from the 40s - 70s were imo the most stylish. Great job doing the arrive by yourself 👏 36k hi-beat seconds hand is sooooooo smooth 😍
Thank you. Yes, I am just starting to explore vintage watches and love some of the old styles.
Kaz told me to come here and I'm happy I did :) Great video, Jason!
Yay! Thanks Kaz, haha! I'm glad I didn't let you down - thank you for watching :)
Ditto.
Gorgeous watch~ I have three King Seikos with me, the 5625-7000, 5626-7110 and the 45-8010 Special Chronometer :) Really loved the Hi beat 36000vph Caliber 45!!
Wonderful! I am trying to hunt down an exhibition caseback mod because I love the way the movement looks!
I just bought a 4502 7001 for $530 from Japan. Not pristine but dial is very good and movement is great, I’m surprised I could get such a nice example for only $530. So values of these has not really moved much the last 5 years, this could change so I’m happy I was able to get one.
It's unreal how cheap these can be had for. Vintage Omega and Rolex from the same period goes for way, way more. The movements in these vintages King Seikos are built like tanks.
Beautiful watch! I like it so much I bought two of them!!
(both with a date window, though, ref. 4502-7001)
Fantastic. You can still pick these up for incredible prices when compared to say Omegas from the same time period.
@@JustWatches1 And I have just ordered a sapphire caseback for one of them. 😊
Kaz said I had to come watch this or he’d send a box of mad bees to my house. Interesting stuff. Thanks for the review.
Yay, thank you Kaz and thanks for visiting :)
cool ....I'm still wearing KS 44-9990 from 1964,,,got it from my best friend he wanted to throw away coz he thought it was broken, the cosmetic value are not so great but after I repaired it I mean just service it with grease and oil and give some tap...booom it's ALIVE! damn go for full winding and the watch got full power it run good.
Amazing, glad you got it running. These watches are amazing.
I have the exact same watch. It’s mesmerizing to watch.
My Omega Constellation has a gold medallion on the back. I put those little plastic case back covers on them to protect the medallions.
Oh that is a good idea to protect it, maybe I will do the same!
That’s lovely, funnily enough I’ve just bought a 1965 weekdater which has a very similar vibe
On nice! The Weekdater looks awesome, I love the full name for the day of the week. Enjoy it!
Very informative documentary, having a clean version of tv cased 5246 KS makes me lucky i guess. In terms of today +6 seconds for my KS(Serviced a while ago) is a good challenge to many Swiss watches of today. The watchmaker told me to not sell the KS.
Absolutely don’t sell it. I have a feeling these will be very difficult to get in the future!
it has a chronometer rating if you see the 6 digit number on the movement thats its chronometer rating.
Oh fascinating, I did not know that!
@@JustWatches1 the Swiss forbade them to put it on the dial. Anyways after that seiko established their own metrics of grand seiko certified that even more stringent than the swiss one and id still in use till today. Btw try to find a clear case back for it. 1. The movement is too beautiful not to look at. 2. You save the gold medallion from corrosion.
@@faisalengler2133 Will do. I finally tracked down a new mainspring, going to replace that and if everything goes well will get the clear caseback next!
Killer watch and review. I just picked one up for $220. My dial has a beautiful light patina. It was serviced recently and only gains a second on a bad day.
Excellent deal, especially if it was serviced - these are fantastic watches!.
Interesting point on the seconds hand vs gravity.
Thanks! Yeah it is weird, but you can definitely tell.
Yours has a chronometer rating. The number on the movement in between the caliber number and “Japan” proves it. They weren’t all market on the dial.also that medallion is solid gold. Also it’s acrylic not mineral crystal 😀
Oh interesting, I didn't know that about the movement number, thanks!
@@JustWatches1 lovely piece by the way! Happy to see another KS/GS fan 😃
Gorgeous watch
Thank you :)
Very informative, I am so impressed. And the watch mesmorizes me.
Thank you :) It was a pleasure to work on this movement. A very special experience.
Love this watch...nice
Defin my favorite all time watch and so happy to wear it as I’m typing this
You should try a beads of rice bracelet on it, it totally transforms the watch
interesting, I would never have thought of trying that. Do you have a recommendation on where to get one?
@@JustWatches1 not sure if my reply got deleted or didn’t send but here’s attempt 2:
The best you can probably get is the BoR bracelet from Forstner. Highest quality and beautiful execution.
Personally though, I’m getting the BoR bracelet from ThoseWatchGuys as it is cheaper with seemingly sufficiently good quality. Plus, they got a picture of a 4502-7001 in their BoR listing of their online shop. So you can already see how perfect it works on a BoR bracelet.
I’ve been wanting a BoR bracelet for the longest time already and keep dreaming of rocking this combination myself, but I am forcing myself to wait until Black Friday to get a little discount on it (due to budgeting limits)
Very hyped though! You should totally get one and make a video about it. More people need to know how perfect this works together.
Just stumbled on your Great little video.
You sound like you have great passion for the KS45
So you know, the watch you have there is a Chronometer, it has a 6 digit serial number under the movement number on the train wheel bridge.
This piece is very special to me also. Many secrets have been lost about its history. Let me know if you want to know more. Cheers 👍🇯🇵🙏
I didn’t realize this is the chronometer version. Thank you for the insight. Yes I love this era of Seiko. Would love to know more about them!! Please share
@@JustWatches1
This is some research I’ve done. Unfortunately it was all in Japanese so took me a while to decipher it all.
But here’s some interesting information for you.
The 45 movement was the first “Official chronometer” (as in Swiss chronometer officials coming to Japan and approving the Japanese officials for world recognition and official permission to use the word “chronometer”); the KS 45 is the first watch with this official certification for domestic “japan” retail sale from Seiko
Any other Seikos sporting the words “chronometer” on their dial before the KS45 were manufactured to chronometer specifications but not officially recognised. Later the Swiss drew a court ordered injunction to suspend Seiko from using this word from there watch dials.
The 45 movement was the only highbeat movement from Daini factory
The 45 movement was the last hand assembled king seiko movement
The 45 movement architecture was adopted and highly regulated for use in the Grand Seiko 4580 for their high grade VFA movement.
Fascinating thanks for all the extra information I didn’t know any of this! 🤯
Video @ 10:23 "a Flat Black Matte finish on the top" - I have the identical watch. Mine also looks "flat black down the middle", but if you get out a loupe/magnifier, you'll see that there isn't ANY paint on the indices (unlike the sides, they're just not polished in the middle) . Guessing that there's an optical illusion going on here...👌
Since you now have experience with this model, will you offer a service for it ? - My sample like yours runs nicely & isn't Mint (runs too fast about 5 min per day)...
Oh fascinating, I am going to have to take a closer look with my scope. I love the effect and wish they would use it on some of their modern watches.
As far as service, I am brand new to the servicing side of the hobby and definitely not comfortable to do so yet, maybe ask me in 5 years lol! I am pretty sure Vintage Time Australia will service any King Seiko, I watched his tear down videos on UA-cam to learn how to do much of the service.
Fantastic review! Subscribed
Thank you and welcome aboard :)
I noticed that the “HI-BEAT” is quite bold on your watch in the video. But on other watches online, the font is thinner. Is there a certain year where the font changed?
Interesting, I'm sorry I don't know.
Kaz sent me. LOL Subscribed from a fellow watch youtuber too!
Awesome, thanks for subscribing and watch this video! I will check out your channel :)
Very nice piece. What would be the recommended service intervals for that movement?
That's a great question. Opinions about servicing widely vary. For this one, unless it displays signs that something is wrong (starts losing time, etc.) I probably wouldn't service it against for 5-6 years because I used all modern synthetic oils/greases.
Great watch and ...... I also like the strap a lot! NATO style but not NATO, and a great brown-blue combo. Can you share which strap this is?
Funny story, this is a Timex quick release strap I took off another watch.
What you have at the end of the strap isn't a pin and collar,but a tang and buckle.
Oh, thank you for the clarification :)
The first true high beat was the Lord Marvel 36000 in 1967 and it is very accurate.
Lord Marvel is an amazing watch!
HI - quick question: what is that brown canvas strap with the grey stripe? I've recently acquired a lovely example of this same watch and would like to try it with the strap in your vid. Thanks!
It is a random Timex strap I took off another watch. I checked their website and I don't see the exact one anymore but it's a 2 piece fabric strap if that helps.
Zero seconds a day!?
Yes! This is the era of movements that closed the gap with the Swiss.