Eddie Torres - Salsa On2 - Mambo - New York Salsa
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Dancing On2 has become very popular around the world. One of the persons who was responsible for this great popularity is Eddie Torres.
His technique is popular and simple. Eddie simply changes the direction of motion on the strong beat of Conga (time 2 or time 6 Music).
"Break" can be interpreted as the moment where there is a change in direction of movement.
Important Note: The strong beat of Conga is the upbeat music.
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Dançar On2 tornou-se muito popular em todo o mundo. Uma das pessoas responsáveis por essa grande popularidade chama-se Eddie Torres.
Sua didática é simples e pode ser resumida na quebra do movimento quando escuta-se a batida forte da "Conga" (no tempo 2 ou tempo 6 da música).
"Quebrar" pode ser interpretado como o momento onde há mudança de sentido do movimento.
Nota Importante: A batida forte da Conga é o tempo fraco da música.
eddie you are the best, master of salsa dance
This is method allows more freedom to add turns and steps. Looks so much more elegant as well. Whoever doesn't know this method needs to try it so they can see the light!
I dance on the conga all of the time, and this video shows the same step for On1, On2PR and On2NY. My conclusion: same quick ,quick, slow step, but One You start forward and On2NY You start backwards, and so is the counting. Conga is and always will have 4 beats. This people try to confuse beginers by coming with the same step, the same conga, but diferent counting. I suggest You listen to the conga and and dance from it. That's what I do, and I can dance on any On2NY,On2PR AND On1LA .
This is the way I started 11 years ago.
I had listen to a few method out there, and they did a good job, but the Eddie Torres Timing Cd is the one that will help any one to get tempo the right way..
Hey CHILENO VENGADOR if you get Eddie's tempo CD you will listen to what you refer.. he does have 2 exercise on this CD , 2-3 clave and 3-2 clave..
I thanks Eddie for for this method of learning the tempo in music.. great job *****
This in one of the best videos out there to get the beat count for on 2.
After hearing this you should just try picking it out hearing salsa songs. Practice, practice and more practice before you are able to hear the beat naturally, in tne mean time just dance and enjoy.
this video taught me how to dance on2...this video started it for me :)
Wow I didn't know that it also had Dominican influence as well. Thanks for letting me know consiceDJ.
@thesilencer2551. Salsa was develop by cubans, puertoricans, and dominicans. Its called salsa because it was a mix of bachata, merengue, and wawanco. Johnny Pacheco ( a Dominican artist) was one of the main characters when this took place.
eddie you are the best, master of MAMBO dance. George Wu, Architect, A.I.A. 2013-5-3
I love how he quickly explains why we count. Most people just want to street dance to salsa. That's not dancing. You have to respect the conga, the clave, and the culture.
the salsa turns came from hustle dancing which was another add to the mix.
This proves that the Cuban Mambo cannot be stolen by the Domonocan or the Puerto Ricans. After fooling around the 123,567 for a few years, now it is time to go back to the Cuban Mambo way of dancing ! ON 2 , NEVER ON1 !!!!! George Wu, AIA 2012-8-21
Eddie Torres has learned the Cuban Mambo when he lived in Harlem. Like myself who could not afford the tuition, he learned by himself. Yes, he danced the old fashioned Latin way, the Cuban Mambo way,this is before the 1960s Cuban Embargo. Then the Dominican Johnny ( Google search) changed the name from Mambo to Salsa, so did Tito and Eddie.( But Corky Ballas was teaching the Cuban Rumba 2341 in Simply Beautiful Latin.That is where I picked up the Original Rumba & Mambo) George Wu, AIA 2013-2-20
The Cuban Mambo & Rumba are: 2341,2341. BREAK ON 2.--- Man starts the left foot forward on 2 ( that is why it is called break on 2). Step right foot in place on 3, left foot to side on 4,1. Repeat: Move right foot backward on 2,step left foot in place on 3, move right foot to side on 4,1. At step 4.1 that is the most important move in a Cuban Latin dance , the pause, or some called it the hesitation. The P.R. Salsa lost the hesitation after awhile in BREAK ON ONE. George Wu, A.I.A. 2013-2-20
MAGISTRAL. ¿Cómo cambia su exposición, si el tema a bailar está en clave 2/3, en vez de en 3/2? ¿Cómo un bailador reconoce instantáneamente el tiempo 1, de un tema a bailar?
Por la campana
@ulisofe I have been dancing son for a few years and I can tell you this is not quite contra tiempo a lo Cubano. It's similar (perhaps even based on contra tiempo), but not quite the same.
busca en ares o busca el album de eddie toorres el cual contiene las bases de los conteos, tb los intrumentos on1 y on2
hola me gustaria este mismo video pero en español , tenes idea si se puede conseguir , gracias
@ulisofe That's like saying Heavy Metal music is not a genre because Heavy Metal came from rock and rock came first. All musicians that start new genres are influenced by other musicians. Salsa wasn't something that was invented out of thin air. Son musicians were influenced by the music of Spain and the African drum patterns and you know what there's nothing wrong with that. The Salsa music and dance that originated NEW YORK is amazing is both Cuban and Puerto Rican.
I'm confused, I keep reading and seeing in some demos that in NY (Eddie Torres style) on 2 , the leader steps L on 1 then breaks back R on 2 i.e. 123, 567 but with back break on 2 and front on 6 . Having started as an on 1 guy that's always seemed hard to me, though Son/Palladium/Mambo/Chacha timing "234" with the break on 2 was easy, just delayed a beat..
However Eddie doesn't look like he's stepping on 1 in this video , to me it looks like he's stepping on 8 & 4 which is in time with the Conga and the Bass, so its 823, 467 . Maybe he's finishing his step on 1 and 5 as his heel hits but it looks like the steps begin on 8 and 4. Now to me that seems closer to my understanding of traditional Son/Cuban/Palladium/Mambo on 2 - 234, 678 just that he's breaking back on 2 instead of forward. If you step on 8 and 4 instead of 1 and 5 then these are the same just reversed. Maybe there's a just a slightly different emphasis on that 8 and 4 in NY ?
Am I missing something?
This!! Every. Time. I notice this and feel like the emperor has no clothes... He's definitely stepping on 4 and 8 after he stops counting lol
Edie montalvo en congas...
@omarcj18 gracias me fuiste de mucha ayuda!!
Correction: cesar mambo: Eddie learned his dancing ( in 1950's) long before Salsa ( in 1960's ) was "INVENTED" in Harlem. In those days there was only the Cuban Mambo existed. He learned to dance ON 2 ( Search Google), the Cuban Mambo way. Where the hell did Salsa ( ON 1) come from in 1950's, ---from Cuban Mambo ! ? Salsa copied the Cuban Mambo in 1960, way after Mambo !?( Google again ! ) George Wu, Registered Architect, A.I.A. 2013-5-3
@ulisofe Listen, it's obvious to me that you are Cuban and I can bet my right hand that you are from South Florida as well. Miami Cubans don't know anything about Salsa or what happened when the Cuban immigrants took Cuban music and the Cuban dance styles to New York. Salsa was created in New York by both Cubans and Puerto Ricans. Yes it was heavily influenced by Cuban music, but the Puerto Ricans had a major influence on the Genra as well.
BREAK ON 6 ? George Wu, AIA 2013-2-21
This tutorial its ok... but... the rithim... its not the traditional from cuba... witch has.. the "clave" with tah u can help your self with te times in salsa..
I hope i did not offend Eddie too much by suggesting he is better off just do what he learned when he was a young man in Harlem, the Cuban way of dancing, quick quick slow. Forget about the academic BREAK ON ONE or BREAK ON TWO. So long Edddie has learned to include the pause in every "MEASURE", he will be allright. It is rediculous to see a veteran struggling on BREAK ON 6 which I have never heard of until this moment ! George Wu, AIA 2013-2-20
Con este metodo se baila atravezado, esto quiere decir que baila fuera de la clave no va con el ritmo. Buen intento de inventar algo nuevo, pero la clave nos dice como hacerlo correctamente.
@ulisofe If you ask the Cubans that live up north in the New England area they don't argue this, but the Cuban exiles in Miami have a grief over it for some reason. For you to claim that the music genra Salsa doesn't exist because it was influenced by Cuban music is ridiculous. It's ridiculous because all genres of music were influenced by other genres of music. If you were to take a music class in college then you would understand that this is called the evolution of music.
This is exactly the SAME teaching from the International Latin DVD by Corky Ballas( DWTS Mark Ballas's father) with the world's best Latin dancer Slavik in their "Dancing with Passion -Rumba", These are all supposed to be the Cuban Mambo dancing counts, 234 ON 2 ,not 123 ON 1. They have nothing to do with Salsa which now is in the middle of of a MESS of ON1 and ON 2 ? When the male dancers just do not dance with a PAUSE at all ! Just busy twisting arms ! George Wu, AIA 2012-8-21
When Salsa stole the Cuban Mambo & changed the name to Salsa, Salsa people had to change something else in order to claim that they had INVENTED a new dance. What did they do? they changed the counting from 234 to123. The male Salsa dancers are not smart people, they forgot how to count after 567, so they simply moved their feet continuously without any PAUSE. That is not what Eddie Torres learned when he started in Palladium ! He learned the authentic Cuban mambo ON 2 ! George Wu, AIA 2012-8-21
If you looked carefully, Eddie Torres was BREAK ON 6 . Why the Salsa people are so fucking confusing . Why don't they just keep on moving the legs fast to COVER UP their mistakes like Eddie did here. so fast that no one could see you are on 1 or on 2 or even on 6, so long you added in the pause like Eddie did, who could tell the difference ?! The trouble is in the future as the dancer tried to improve his dancing. on 1, or on 6 begins to be a big problem ! No system ! George Wu, AIA 2013-2-20
why do you use the name MAMBO? ...Eddy, why you can not to find another name of your style or version..of idea of dance with Cuban music? .. disculpa pero el tiempo bailar en contratiempo y lo llamas on 2, no es una creacion tuya 100% . Esso se creo hace anos en Cuba...Rey del mambo? uuuhhhmmm.....oh my god!!!
+Jose Luis Pelayo Herrera Es correcto,, tenga en cuenta que el contratiempo es un tipo de tiempo dos, aunque el origen sea del contratiempo cubano. Está; correcto, por aplicación de teoríaa de conjuntos. Por otra parte, el mambo, engloba no solo el tiempo dos, también el son como caso particular, sino también la pachanga, la rumba, etc. Un saludo.
dieseb1979: ulisofe knew exactly what he is talking about ! You do not know what the hell you are talking about is the truth ! The Cuban Mambo was stolen by Salsa in 1960's, except the counting method 234, 234 was not stolen until now, only after the Salsa male dancer could not dance the PAUSE step, after spinning the woman 99 times, and he himself got lost of count whether he was on 123, or on 567, or 567,or 123 again? What a fucking Mess ! George Wu, AIA 2012-8-21
And it's not Son, so get over it and grow up!